Thats the biggest mistake there is. With this exact mindset you make way for so much dictatorship and bullshit. Basically if the democrats would put Trump als Frontrunner you would then have voted for him, even if he makes repub policies later?
Bad hypothetical. I dunno how your political system works, but in a political system with only two choices with any real chance of winning, you pick the one that aligns with your values, and then you're done with it. I think centrists and independents are dishonest liars that want to make people think they're more open-minded than they actually are. All of my values align with the left. I don't have ANY conservative views at all. And even if I did, I'd simply pick the party that holds either the most values that align with me or the most important ones.
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Well see, I just made a post talking about how I vote for policies, not people. So specifying that they come from Obama or Biden doesn't really matter, when they're in line with what the Democratic party promotes:
But is that likely they will think a wepaons embargo is enough? I do not think it is. The people who are set on Jill Stein now are not gonna change due to a proposal alone. The people who would like an embargo but are afraid of trump are going to vote for harris anyway.
Just wanna point out that Jill Stein only ever tries to spoil the election when a Democrat is being screwed over, never a Republican. It makes me think that she's just in this to show up, get campaign money from fools that believe in the Green Party, take bribe money from conservatives that want to screw over the Dem candidate, and then disappear until she needs to refill her own personal coffers again.
I always wondered why the third parties are not focusing on the midterms where they actually would have a shot to win some seats (if they focus on places where they are strong).
To be fair, I haven't looked up anything on any other parties. I'm just working with my understanding of Jill Stein. Libertarians just seem crazy, but maybe they're dishonest grifters too.
I don't think it's bad either. I consider it a Darwin test. It helps find out who around you deserves to be ignored from now on. 3rd parties won't become viable choices until a time that we've got Ranked Choice Voting in every state in America. Until then, anyone willing to throw away their vote in the name of virtue signaling is putting a huge L on their forehead.
Yeah, Leeja mentions that in the video. I just thought the Leftists here would understand it better if another Leftist like her said the same shit I've been saying for over a year.
IT IS NOT. IT WILL NOT WORK. IT JUST MAKES NORMAL PEOPLE HATE LEFTISTS.
Sigh. Well at least you're not in America, so I don't have to worry about you throwing away my democracy along with your thrown away vote.
It did work with Biden. Biden adjusted his policies to the left after winning against Sanders. If you get the left vote anyway, you will not adjust your policies. Why would you? Much like moderates threaten to withhold their vote if a politician promises bold climate action. Just that leftists get blamed for it while centrist voters expect that everyboy HAS to fight for their vote.
It is hard to call something democracy if there is no actual choice (because there is only the "right" choice and the evil people you are not supposed to vote for) and if you are "throwing away you vote" if you dare to not vote for someone you think is a liar that will work against the best interest of you and the topics you care about.
No he wasn't, as Zionists likely raped Palestinian prisoners, as they have been doing every day regardless of how young or old the prisoners are. They even rioted because they did not want to be held accountable for rape and sexual assault when we found out so many prisoners died from sexual assault.
That's what happens when you interfere consistently in other countries and have no issue with overthrowing other countries' leaders to get your guys in, no matter how any innocent lives are lost. If US minded its own business, 9/11 likely would not have happened.
Yes. I know many that were willing to vote for Harris when Biden stepped down, until she made it clear she supported Israel committing genocide, framed it as self-defense, and continued to lie about Hamas and Palestine despite these lies being debunked by Israel themselves. It does not make sense to try to appeal to few republicans and zionists at the expense of tons of Muslims and the left.
www.politifact.com
www.politifact.com
I got you to admit that Palestinians raped Israeli hostages MONTHS AGO, and now you're backtracking? And why? To defend fucking HASAN PIKER!?
So you believe that America deserved 9/11 then? I don't know why I'm asking a second time, because you just did terrorist apologia for it, but couldn't just say "Yes, the people murdered in the twin towers deserved it because they were Americans."
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Biden has accomplished record breaking bipartisan work during his 4 years. To the extent that he had further left policies he adopted, he also had further right policies to balance it out, or else he wouldn't be bipartisan.
Democratically voting to kill democracy is anti-democratic.
The lever is still there, because there are, as I've said earlier, so many different demographics on the Left, from Centrist Democrat all the way to Tankie. The lever being "It's not enough to be on the Left, you have to be the right KIND of Left. Become more moderate, and tow the party line."
That is a given. It is always on the candidate and the campaign if they lose. it would also be on Harris if she endorses a weapons embargo and loses due to that. That is exactly why people in that position need to take their own decisions and often do rightfully disregard people shouting stuff rom the sidelines.
Which right policies? Biden definitely had a far more progressive agenda than obama, even tho obama ran on change. Without pressure from the left, thatwould not have happened. And there is no presure if it would have been clear to him that the leftist voters are going to vote for him anyway.
What kind of democracy is it if there is only one "right" option to vote and you gotta vote it even if you think the people who represent that option work against your own interests, just a little less than another?
A Tankie is not left, neither is a centrist democrat. They are just as different from a leftist point of view as a republican is, they just have a bigger overlap in policies we can both support. You are mistaken if you think these people play for the same team. Certainly, Kamala Harris isn't fighting for the same fundamental ideas that I am fighting for and she is fighting against some of them. "Becoming more moderate" to accomodate to themw ould mean betraying the values that I think are right.
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Perhaps that's all an honest assessment. More honest than you'd ever hear from almost any Democrat politician.
Yeah. Parties are businesses, first an foremost. That is true in a multi party system, too. And that is just logical. The people who prioritize getting elected over their morals are more likely to get elected, so parties are shaped by them. And they tend to have a deep distrust towards people who do not "fall in line" as easily as them.
My personal view on it is that indirect or hidden effects are often more relevant than the effects that quickly come to mind. In this situation, I think opening up a new debate topic like "If I get elected, I will ban weapon deliveries to Israel" would have a very divisive effect on downballot races. For example, suddenly senatorial or house candidates get asked about what they think about it without having had the chance to construct a stance on that concrete question.
The reason people are so comfortable ignoring the facts of the October 7th rape allegations is because you're essentially saying "Hey, they stripped women naked and took pictures of their dead bodies, but they weren't full on rapes so it's not as bad. Let's give the sex criminals the benefit of the doubt." As if Hamas and the other Palestinian groups responsible are somehow vindicated by the fact or something. It reads as sexual assault apologia, on top of the already heinous terrorist apologia.
Do you know what a No True Scotsman fallacy is, by chance?
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