American Politics

[xi0]

... good point. We do have plenty of presidents who backtracked, lied, and flip flopped all the time.

I can see the point if you really do believe all the rather terrible things said about her are true. She seems pretty corrupt, but that's not anything new or interesting unfortunately...

 

[M3J]

Exactly why I said good point.

Also another reason why I want Bernie as a president, but I'd rather take Hillary over Cruz or Trump. Interestingly, @Drmke and I talked about this.

 

[Dragoon]

One word guys... and it isn't a word I like using, shrakbait has had a privileged life. His stupid comments like the one where he said that "You shouldnt be trying to save a retirement fund, pay your kids college tuition fund, and have a Ford Focus, while working at Mickey D's or Walmart. Instead they should be going to school and working to better themselves." This coming from someone who thinks they can somehow stave off their families expenses whether it be food, shelter, transportation and their college savings long enough to go to college themselves. College savings, sure. Food, shelter and transportation? Lol uhhhh nope. Now as for before they have the kids and such? Sure but people need a better education to begin with. Maybe it's just me but the current education system seems lacking. (barring college and even then... I've seen some pretty stupid courses that I am of the mind shouldn't exist since they don't give you any economic benefit, unless of course you have the money and time to spare)

 

[kkck]

Well, economic benefit shouldn't necessarily be the sole factor in determining whether a subject is available. In the end it's not like you can determine how much a subject will be worth in the long run.... And if my sources are right, even liberal arts students don't do that poorly in the long run career wise. They start of slower than technical careers but over the long run they even get higher incomes... And to boot, quite a few CEOs are liberal arts majors, some sources even suggest a third of CEOs have such majors but I haven't found one I am comfortable with (this one suggests less but still a few). Surely the US has education issues but I wouldn't necessarily say it is too many useless degrees or subjects. I would say the issue is on access and quality (for people not going to top schools at least) rather than specifically a degree being useless. In the end life is long and complicated and not necessarily reduced to merely whether you have a science degree or not (though I do personally favor technical degrees over liberal arts).

on another note,I also found this to be an interesting read:
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/mar/27/final-five-truth-o-meter/

 

[Dragoon]

Fair enough. Thinking on it I was being too harsh. Tends to happen when I post before thinking out a proper response... which is always lol

 

[M3J]

Well, economic benefit shouldn't necessarily be the sole factor in determining whether a subject is available. In the end it's not like you can determine how much a subject will be worth in the long run.... And if my sources are right, even liberal arts students don't do that poorly in the long run career wise. They start of slower than technical careers but over the long run they even get higher incomes... And to boot, quite a few CEOs are liberal arts majors, some sources even suggest a third of CEOs have such majors but I haven't found one I am comfortable with (this one suggests less but still a few). Surely the US has education issues but I wouldn't necessarily say it is too many useless degrees or subjects. I would say the issue is on access and quality (for people not going to top schools at least) rather than specifically a degree being useless. In the end life is long and complicated and not necessarily reduced to merely whether you have a science degree or not (though I do personally favor technical degrees over liberal arts).

on another note,I also found this to be an interesting read:
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/mar/27/final-five-truth-o-meter/

I wanna see the truth-o-meter cover all politicians, especially Jindal. I wanna see just what a piece of shit Jindal is.


Not shocked Trump is known as a liar.

 

[kkck]

I wanna see the truth-o-meter cover all politicians, especially Jindal. I wanna see just what a piece of shit Jindal is.


Not shocked Trump is known as a liar.

The situation is quite ironic, Hillary actually has the best marks on telling the truth and yet people hate her for being a liar while trump is liked for "telling it as it is" and he gets atrocious marks. Kasich is surprisingly high as well, wouldn't have expected that.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/bobby-jindal/
Well, there isn't much on him....

 

[M3J]

She does backtrack a lot though, and while Trump may be blunt, he is also a liar. Sadly people overlook this just because he's not afraid to say stupidass shit.

I wouldn't expect it as Jindal is irrelevant, except to his state that he fucked up royally.


Interesting how people attack laborers or minimum wage workers for makin a simple mistake or call them lazy, yet they defend the wealthy and financial sector, who has its share of dishonest people that can actually affect the economy. This is why we need Bernie, he'll at least not suck up to the crooked people. And did Trump say he'll let wealthy Muslims or wealthy Muslim friends into the US? If so, then what a joke.

 

[SharkBait]

Wow.Trump should have at least made sure they were.

 

[M3J]

Trump's kids are dumb. They should be aware of the rules, they have no excuse for this. Or maybe they really didn't want to vote for their dad because they know he's a bad choice, and to avoid pissing him off, they did this instead. Smart if true. Though, I wonder if Trump's crazy-ass supporters will get violent on them.

Either way, can't feel bad. Seems many republican states are trying to stop or make it harder for people to vote so democrats don't win.

 

[xi0]

Though, I wonder if Trump's crazy-ass supporters will get violent on them.

...what? Trump's supporters are going to "get violent" over his kids?

 

[kkck]

Realistically speaking this is the most perfect response to trump's kids not voting:

I mean, seriously...

 

[xi0]

Realistically speaking this is the most perfect response to trump's kids not voting:

I mean, seriously...

It'd be funny to see if paid Trump supporters somehow turn this into a voter's rights issue all because the rich kids couldn't vote. That would be hil-arious.

 

[kkck]

It'd be funny to see if paid Trump supporters somehow turn this into a voter's rights issue all because the rich kids couldn't vote. That would be hil-arious.

Hillary-ous?.....(my pun is bad)

Seriously though, it would be more ridiculous than the time the republican's generic drone, the T-rubio, glitched and started with the dick jokes...

 

[M3J]

...what? Trump's supporters are going to "get violent" over his kids?

you never know. His supporters tend to be violent, apparently.

Hillary-ous?.....(my pun is bad)

Seriously though, it would be more ridiculous than the time the republican's generic drone, the T-rubio, glitched and started with the dick jokes...

Or when Trump started talking about his dick

Or when Trump and Cruz attacked each other's wife

 

[xi0]

you never know. His supporters tend to be violent, apparently.

We get it, you don't like him or his supporters. I'm not a fan of him either. But this comment makes no sense.

 

[M3J]

Has nothin to do with me liking his supporters and more to do with their history. I like Bernie, but I'm wary of his supporters.

 

[xi0]

Has nothin to do with me liking his supporters and more to do with their history. I like Bernie, but I'm wary of his supporters.

It still doesn't make any sense...

Why be wary of Bernie's supporters?

 

[M3J]

How does it not? Are the supporters not known to be violent, or are the media and liberals lying?

Because of the protests against Trump rally (which I agree with) and hearing how anal they can get about voting for Bernie, among other stuff.

 

[xi0]

How does it not? Are the supporters not known to be violent, or are the media and liberals lying?

Because of the protests against Trump rally (which I agree with) and hearing how anal they can get about voting for Bernie, among other stuff.

How would they be violent over his kids not voting? Are they going to summon a lynch mob for them? You bringing up violence makes no sense in this context.

Who cares really?