American Politics

[kkck]

Similar to that, except the primaries were rigged in Hillary's favor.

I still don't see how that is true.... There wasn't any actual fraud. What the DNC did was support hillary and discuss how to get her more support however as far as the actual voting goes they did not actually committed fraud. They were assholes but what they did does not account for the sheer difference in votes each got. At least, I wouldn't think so. Ultimately the issue was that bernie could simply not convince as many democrats that he was the best choice. As obama did against hillary 8 years ago.

 

[Aonori]

What do you mean? The only thing reagan had going for him was his shitty economic policy.... Without that myth I am not sure of what exactly is it that you like about him.

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WWIII? I am not sure anyone can seriously believe trump supporters would riot over that. The issue here is trump telling his supporters that the election is rigged and them being ignorant enough to believe that. As for the bold part, I don't get what you mean.

It's not only trump saying this, the alternative media outlets also agree with what he's telling, also Mainstream media is starting to lose attention focus when compared to wikileaks, for the average american citizen.

Also there are reasons for people be concerned about this like him getting 0 money from the republican party for adds after what he gave in, or how his own party tries to bail out of him a lot of times, etc... plus Hillary needs to chill down a level or two, taking down Michael Savage out of air just because he was talking about her health, or having Assange mysteriouly lose his internet acess, etc... arent the good things that will get her elected, if anything it will just turn the public's attention toward voting for trump who isnt showcasing as much problems as Hillary, of course a lot american voters are worried over, Hillary's open border policy before it even began due to terrorist attacks, but thats only a valid to reason to some to vote for trump at best.
Hillary also threatened to respond to cyber attacks violently, much of which are being done can easily be pinned on Russia to blame, also remember watching 2 vods regarding Jill stein and Putin addressing how Hillary becoming president can actually cause WWIII and her behaviour when compared to trump with dealing with russia is much more different, though trump can just as easily screw up our relations with China, I think the mainstream media is focusing on the wrong things to take down trump, while the alternative media is being more clear on the Hillary threat.

About the rigged elections, have heard that Hillary's rallies have very few people compared to trump, yet the poll results are very different, will the final election results be rigged? Not sure, but a lot of the election process smells bad, like dead people voting, for instance, cant say thats normal.

 

[kkck]

It's not only trump saying this, the alternative media outlets also agree with what he's telling, also Mainstream media is starting to lose attention focus when compared to wikileaks, for the average american citizen.

Also there are reasons for people be concerned about this like him getting 0 money from the republican party for adds after what he gave in, or how his own party tries to bail out of him a lot of times, etc... plus Hillary needs to chill down a level or two, taking down Michael Savage out of air just because he was talking about her health, or having Assange mysteriouly lose his internet acess, etc... arent the good things that will get her elected, if anything it will just turn the public's attention toward voting for trump who isnt showcasing as much problems as Hillary, of course a lot american voters are worried over, Hillary's open border policy before it even began due to terrorist attacks, but thats only a valid to reason to some to vote for trump at best.
Hillary also threatened to respond to cyber attacks violently, much of which are being done can easily be pinned on Russia to blame, also remember watching 2 vods regarding Jill stein and Putin addressing how Hillary becoming president can actually cause WWIII and her behaviour when compared to trump with dealing with russia is much more different, though trump can just as easily screw up our relations with China, I think the mainstream media is focusing on the wrong things to take down trump, while the alternative media is being more clear on the Hillary threat.

About the rigged elections, have heard that Hillary's rallies have very few people compared to trump, yet the poll results are very different, will the final election results be rigged? Not sure, but a lot of the election process smells bad, like dead people voting, for instance, cant say thats normal.

Alternate media outlets like breibart? Well, the stuff you mention sounds like it's straight out of there...

Also, what election have been watching? In what universe does trump have less problems than hillary? Trump is a liar (his campaign was literally built on lies and conspiracy theories), an ignorant (the way he speaks of most things is flat out wrong, he even suggested he would have the US default on it's debt), evidently incompetent (just look at how poorly he handles his campaign) and most likely actually stupid (look at how easily he got baited by hillary during the first debate). Hillary has plenty of problems but none at least none of them involve her being ignorant, incompetent or being dumb.

Why would anyone buy into what Putin says? He is clearly supporting trump and the suspicion that russia is trying to interfere with the US election is perfectly reasonable. Of course Putin is going to say hillary is bad.... You have trump saying he would stop support for NATO.... What do you think happens then? Russia gets free reign to do as they please everywhere. Of course putin would be giddy at such a prospect.

Well, the difference is that trump's base is excited to vote for him while hillary unfortunately has been unable to generate any excitement. However that doesn't mean the polling is wrong. We would be talking of a vast, tin foil hat worthy, conspiracy here.

 

[Aonori]

Alternate media outlets like breibart? Well, the stuff you mention sounds like it's straight out of there...

Also, what election have been watching? In what universe does trump have less problems than hillary? Trump is a liar (his campaign was literally built on lies and conspiracy theories), an ignorant (the way he speaks of most things is flat out wrong, he even suggested he would have the US default on it's debt), evidently incompetent (just look at how poorly he handles his campaign) and most likely actually stupid (look at how easily he got baited by hillary during the first debate). Hillary has plenty of problems but none at least none of them involve her being ignorant, incompetent or being dumb.

Why would anyone buy into what Putin says? He is clearly supporting trump and the suspicion that russia is trying to interfere with the US election is perfectly reasonable. Of course Putin is going to say hillary is bad.... You have trump saying he would stop support for NATO.... What do you think happens then? Russia gets free reign to do as they please everywhere. Of course putin would be giddy at such a prospect.

Well, the difference is that trump's base is excited to vote for him while hillary unfortunately has been unable to generate any excitement. However that doesn't mean the polling is wrong. We would be talking of a vast, tin foil hat worthy, conspiracy here.

Who is Breibart? Sorry but it´s the first time, someone mentions him to me.

How is having a possible problem with China not a bigger one though? I meant less problems in number but not in magnitude (sorry I didnt expose this part before), with Hillary as president the number of problems the US will have to face are multiple compared to those Trump will create, but here´s the catch, with Trump it´s very likely US gets less problems but the magnitude of the problems Trump will get is gonna be on a much more larger scale than Hillary, Quantity and Quality, in a nutshell, and I say China as one of them, because I really doubt Trump´s talks about talking to China to solve any issue that was proposed to him whatsoever (first one being North Korea), is gonna get solved, that could also end up in WWIII for all we know, right now.

Putin is defending his interests, with Trump on board so he can get rid of ISIS pratically, and prevent WW that would destroy his country, along with other russian interests in the region, that the US has nothing to meddle with, Russia stopped play with US neighbours quite a while ago, but the US, didnt and now there´s ISIS, also I´d like to mention but dont you think Hillary is also heavily biased by corporations? The new released Project Veritas, showcases a lot of dirt on her, and how some mainstream media are afraid of going against her, in case she does get in fact elected.

Some of the Hillary voters even go as far as voting for her, just to prevent Trump for getting elected, argument, I think there´s a lack of connection between the voters and Hillary (also cause her health problems make difficult to organize rallies) she doesnt have the health to be a working president, but she will work very well as a puppet politician for a lot of "people", and I will leave it at that.

Eitherway, I´d rather if this election was between Bernie Sanders and Trump, at this point, it´s so pathetic to see the Mainstream media´s attacks on Trump, it´s just adding more wood to the fire, the debates end up, getting poor answers to the problems asked and instead of having some decent neutral moderators, most of the moderators set up there are up for one or another party, the SNL "abridged" debates are funny though.

 

[kkck]

Who is Breibart? Sorry but it´s the first time, someone mentions him to me.

How is having a possible problem with China not a bigger one though? I meant less problems in number but not in magnitude (sorry I didnt expose this part before), with Hillary as president the number of problems the US will have to face are multiple compared to those Trump will create, but here´s the catch, with Trump it´s very likely US gets less problems but the magnitude of the problems Trump will get is gonna be on a much more larger scale than Hillary, Quantity and Quality, in a nutshell, and I say China as one of them, because I really doubt Trump´s talks about talking to China to solve any issue that was proposed to him whatsoever (first one being North Korea), is gonna get solved, that could also end up in WWIII for all we know, right now.

Putin is defending his interests, with Trump on board so he can get rid of ISIS pratically, and prevent WW that would destroy his country, along with other russian interests in the region, that the US has nothing to meddle with, Russia stopped play with US neighbours quite a while ago, but the US, didnt and now there´s ISIS, also I´d like to mention but dont you think Hillary is also heavily biased by corporations? The new released Project Veritas, showcases a lot of dirt on her, and how some mainstream media are afraid of going against her, in case she does get in fact elected.

Some of the Hillary voters even go as far as voting for her, just to prevent Trump for getting elected, argument, I think there´s a lack of connection between the voters and Hillary (also cause her health problems make difficult to organize rallies) she doesnt have the health to be a working president, but she will work very well as a puppet politician for a lot of "people", and I will leave it at that.

Eitherway, I´d rather if this election was between Bernie Sanders and Trump, at this point, it´s so pathetic to see the Mainstream media´s attacks on Trump, it´s just adding more wood to the fire, the debates end up, getting poor answers to the problems asked and instead of having some decent neutral moderators, most of the moderators set up there are up for one or another party, the SNL "abridged" debates are funny though.

I can't really make sense of what you mean about china. Nor I have much context of what you mean regarding the problems caused by hillary.

You make it sounds as if the reason the US can't beat isis is russia. Which I don't see a reason to think is true. As far as Syria goes the situation right now is that the US is supporting rebels and whatnot while Russia is supporting asad. The US wants asad out. From what I can tell what you are suggesting is that the US basically switches sides... Which clearly they can't or shouldn't do.

And what WW3 are you talking about? Are you seriously buying into hillary's health problems? Even if she had any, a comatose hillary would be a better president than a healthy trump....

 

[Aonori]

I can't really make sense of what you mean about china. Nor I have much context of what you mean regarding the problems caused by hillary.

You make it sounds as if the reason the US can't beat isis is russia. Which I don't see a reason to think is true. As far as Syria goes the situation right now is that the US is supporting rebels and whatnot while Russia is supporting asad. The US wants asad out. From what I can tell what you are suggesting is that the US basically switches sides... Which clearly they can't or shouldn't do.

And what WW3 are you talking about? Are you seriously buying into hillary's health problems? Even if she had any, a comatose hillary would be a better president than a healthy trump....

No it´s the exact oposite, of that.

Are you really believing she´s ok? then why isnt she acting like trump when it comes to setting rallies?

You do watch some of the american news right? If not, I will explain it to you, there are signs, of Russia and the US´s relations as countries falling apart, here´s a exemple Obama, calls for a no fly zone in Syria, for russian and Syrian government aircraft, Putin calls it a no fly zone for US, etc... aircraft in the region with S-300 anti-aircraft missiles, I think the no fly zone was only been done in Aleppo so far, because some US idiot generals, thought it was a good idea to break a ceasefire treaty with Russia in Syria, "accidently" to bomb Assad pro military that they thought were ISIS terrorists, or other high priority targets in the region.

If Hillary´s health was so good, why did Michael Savage´s radio talk show, got butchered out of nowhere just case he was addressing the problem? Why did the first moderator at the dabate, lie about Trump´s critic to Hillary´s health and call it another thing? why doesnt Hillary talk this out with the people instead of go censoring people, for a thing she didnt explain shit about in the first place? She has symptons, people arent dumb and at some point some intel on this will come out, why not just tell it right there, her problems? Instead of making scenes afterwards? She does come healthy to the debates but before she wasnt nearly as healthy, which is at best fishy.

For those outside of the US (like me), It wont matter as much as long as it doesnt end in a WW with nuke spamming involved, my country already sold out, some public companies to China, etc... most America nationalists will probably prefer a healthy trump over a super healthy Hillary Clinton, at this point, though.

 

[kkck]

No it´s the exact oposite, of that.

Are you really believing she´s ok? then why isnt she acting like trump when it comes to setting rallies?

You do watch some of the american news right? If not, I will explain it to you, there are signs, of Russia and the US´s relations as countries falling apart, here´s a exemple Obama, calls for a no fly zone in Syria, for russian and Syrian government aircraft, Putin calls it a no fly zone for US, etc... aircraft in the region with S-300 anti-aircraft missiles, I think the no fly zone was only been done in Aleppo so far, because some US idiot generals, thought it was a good idea to break a ceasefire treaty with Russia in Syria, "accidently" to bomb Assad pro military that they thought were ISIS terrorists, or other high priority targets in the region.

If Hillary´s health was so good, why did Michael Savage´s radio talk show, got butchered out of nowhere just case he was addressing the problem? Why did the first moderator at the dabate, lie about Trump´s critic to Hillary´s health and call it another thing? why doesnt Hillary talk this out with the people instead of go censoring people, for a thing she didnt explain shit about in the first place? She has symptons, people arent dumb and at some point some intel on this will come out, why not just tell it right there, her problems? Instead of making scenes afterwards? She does come healthy to the debates but before she wasnt nearly as healthy, which is at best fishy.

For those outside of the US (like me), It wont matter as much as long as it doesnt end in a WW with nuke spamming involved, my country already sold out, some public companies to China, etc... most America nationalists will probably prefer a healthy trump over a super healthy Hillary Clinton, at this point.

As for the bold part, I don't get the question.... How is she supposed to be acting?

Russia and the US have never had that good relations, that is by no means new. Russia is constantly trying to undermine the US and has been on the wrong end of a number of sanctions which have hurt their economy on top of the low oil prices. Not to mention that russia has a rather well oiled propaganda machine which fuels political stability in countries they perceive as enemies as well as create the perception that russia has far more military power than it actually does.

I don't really know who mika savage is. A quick google search suggests he is a conspiracy theorist and an overall nutjob (and of course trump supporter). I find the idea that he got shut down a tad weird because as far as I can tell hillary's opponents are freely going on about her health.

You do realize that trump is the candidate that wanted more countries to have nukes and doesn't get why he can't use them right? If you want a candidate that won't nuke stuff then trump is literally the last person on the list you should want as president. Heck, he went to republican debates without even knowing what the nuclear triad is... Hillary on meth is more trustworthy with nuclear codes than trump would be.

 

[Aonori]

As for the bold part, I don't get the question.... How is she supposed to be acting?

Russia and the US have never had that good relations, that is by no means new. Russia is constantly trying to undermine the US and has been on the wrong end of a number of sanctions which have hurt their economy on top of the low oil prices. Not to mention that russia has a rather well oiled propaganda machine which fuels political stability in countries they perceive as enemies as well as create the perception that russia has far more military power than it actually does.

I don't really know who mika savage is. A quick google search suggests he is a conspiracy theorist and an overall nutjob (and of course trump supporter). I find the idea that he got shut down a tad weird because as far as I can tell hillary's opponents are freely going on about her health.

You do realize that trump is the candidate that wanted more countries to have nukes and doesn't get why he can't use them right? If you want a candidate that won't nuke stuff then trump is literally the last person on the list you should want as president. Heck, he went to republican debates without even knowing what the nuclear triad is... Hillary on meth is more trustworthy with nuclear codes than trump would be.

"Acting", as in "running" rallies, more often like trump does, (following Google tradutor on this).

You dont say, But Putin has a very good rep. as political leader, inside of his own country good luck with having some other politicians, getting a half of that, that said, Putin is anti-globalist, for the bad or for the good, that is in him, I remember in a interview, him being asked about international relationships with the rest of the world, and he remarked, the importance of prioritizing the citizens first, as a political leader, then there comes the relations. The US and Russia relations would be much more worse if the other "Donald Trump" like politician, in Russia was in charge, at this time trust me, Putin is very good for Russia and US relations, also it cant be denied that Putin was trying to create good relations with the US, but certain people pushed the thing too high and now, they have another "cold war" period at their hands. Also that whole: "Russia might hack the elections in favor of Donald Trump", gossip is quite the BS, especially when Hillary threatens quite highly the use of cyberattacks, why would the russians do it, in those circunstances?

Thats strange, he sure wasnt the only one taken down, there was also this guy Doctor Drew that got the same treatment, for the same exact thing, but I dont live in the US, so it´s not like I can go there confirm most of the facts, on the channels, radio shows, more easily, I did heard about replacements for Michael Savage´s job though and Michael Savage, Conspiracy Theorist or not, had a huge number of listeners, more than the goons that went in and replaced him. There´s also the Veritas Project which showcases in at least one vid. that the mainstream media is afraid of Hillary Clinton so they are biased towards her, and there was also Assange´s internet connection that was taken down, quite convieniently...

Hillary as a President is a threat to Russia and US relations, she also is a threat to multiple amendment rights.

Trump knows about business and thats what America needs right now, even if it has economical risks with China not liking the very likely new reforms trump might implement, and America seriously needs a president like that right now, because it´s in a great debt, I´m sure that with Hillary the debt would remain just like it´s or increase quite a bit, while with trump it´s controversial either or not he can rise or decrease it, it will depend on his "art of dealing", but at least there´s a chance.

 

[shionoro]

also it cant be denied that Putin was trying to create good relations with the US

Simply put? Yes it can, because it is completely untrue.
Putin did a lot of things actively hurting the relationship of the US and russia.
And in the obama presidency, the US held back towards russia a lot. It didnt do them any well.

Putin escaaltes conflicts towards europe and the US in sometimes completely unnecessary topics.

 

[Aonori]

Simply put? Yes it can, because it is completely untrue.
Putin did a lot of things actively hurting the relationship of the US and russia.
And in the obama presidency, the US held back towards russia a lot. It didnt do them any well.

Putin escaaltes conflicts towards europe and the US in sometimes completely unnecessary topics.

But he was trying to do so, after 9/11 in 2001, the US´s agressiveness in the middle east was the reason why he stopped the initiave and went on a more defensive stand.

He did, but we need to take conscience that the middle east, is right at Russia´s doorstep, it´s more serious for them to have ISIS neighbours than for the US, distance wise, and a lot of jihadists have already went in to Western countries to pratice terrorism.

They should´ve just followed Trump´s advice and keep the oil, instead with Obama, the oil went to ISIS and funded their organization quite well, now ISIS is bigger and Russia needs to hit them harder than it should´ve been necessary.

But if it was Russia, doing the same thing as the US and desobeying a ceasefire treaty to attack "high priority" targets and then mention a mistake happened and rebels got killed instead, then they would receive the exact same treatment the US is getting with the Aleppo no fly zone, or worse, just a food for thought.

 

[shionoro]

But he was trying to do so, after 9/11 in 2001, the US´s agressiveness in the middle east was the reason why he stopped the initiave and went on a more defensive stand.

He did, but we need to take conscience that the middle east, is right at Russia´s doorstep, it´s more serious for them to have ISIS neighbours than for the US, distance wise, and a lot of jihadists have already went in to Western countries to pratice terrorism.

They should´ve just followed Trump´s advice and keep the oil, instead with Obama, the oil went to ISIS and funded their organization quite well, now ISIS is bigger and Russia needs to hit them harder than it should´ve been necessary.

But if it was Russia, doing the same thing as the US and desobeying a ceasefire treaty to attack "high priority" targets and then mention a mistake happened and rebels got killed instead, then they would receive the exact same treatment the US is getting with the Aleppo no fly zone, or worse, just a food for thought.

That can hardly be said. If anything, the rocket shield in poland was. And even while the 9/11 times happened, the US usually talked with russia about nato missions and all that stuff.
And even if: The US is not the whole west. Russia uses propaganda in a lot of western countries for basically no reason at all than to disrupt.
For example, they completely made up a rape case about a russian girl being raped by refugees in germany, of which even lawrov (russian secretary of state) jumped in and told it was true.
Those are absolutely hostile actions, the same goes for the ukraine debacle.

And no, you should never follow trumps advise and you cannot just steal oil. Also Russia does NOT hit isis. They don't they simply do not.
Russia hits syrian rebels fighting against assad, and those are other guys than isis. Those guys sit in aleppo, isis sits in rakka and mossul and russia does almost nothing there. They fired like 2-3 bombs and that was it.

Russia is not doing the same as the US; they are doing much worse. They help a dictator with their own military with complete disregard for civillian life.
It is vice versa: If the US would do what russia does there, then you'd have the posters with 'OBAMA WARCRIMINAL' up again.
But noone says that about putin, because his propaganda channels are better at getting the people who usually shout on their side.

 

[kkck]

"Acting", as in "running" rallies, more often like trump does, (following Google tradutor on this).

You dont say, But Putin has a very good rep. as political leader, inside of his own country good luck with having some other politicians, getting a half of that, that said, Putin is anti-globalist, for the bad or for the good, that is in him, I remember in a interview, him being asked about international relationships with the rest of the world, and he remarked, the importance of prioritizing the citizens first, as a political leader, then there comes the relations. The US and Russia relations would be much more worse if the other "Donald Trump" like politician, in Russia was in charge, at this time trust me, Putin is very good for Russia and US relations, also it cant be denied that Putin was trying to create good relations with the US, but certain people pushed the thing too high and now, they have another "cold war" period at their hands. Also that whole: "Russia might hack the elections in favor of Donald Trump", gossip is quite the BS, especially when Hillary threatens quite highly the use of cyberattacks, why would the russians do it, in those circunstances?

Thats strange, he sure wasnt the only one taken down, there was also this guy Doctor Drew that got the same treatment, for the same exact thing, but I dont live in the US, so it´s not like I can go there confirm most of the facts, on the channels, radio shows, more easily, I did heard about replacements for Michael Savage´s job though and Michael Savage, Conspiracy Theorist or not, had a huge number of listeners, more than the goons that went in and replaced him. There´s also the Veritas Project which showcases in at least one vid. that the mainstream media is afraid of Hillary Clinton so they are biased towards her, and there was also Assange´s internet connection that was taken down, quite convieniently...

Hillary as a President is a threat to Russia and US relations, she also is a threat to multiple amendment rights.

Trump knows about business and thats what America needs right now, even if it has economical risks with China not liking the very likely new reforms trump might implement, and America seriously needs a president like that right now, because it´s in a great debt, I´m sure that with Hillary the debt would remain just like it´s or increase quite a bit, while with trump it´s controversial either or not he can rise or decrease it, it will depend on his "art of dealing", but at least there´s a chance.

Running rallies? I am not sure of what you mean here.... Trump is without a doubt better than hillary at putting a show but why does hillary have to be like that?

Julian assange's internet connection was shut down by ecuador.... The guy served his purpose years ago so that the country's sad excuse of a government could pretend they were for free expression while they actively tried to interfere and sue all major newspapers in the country. And now they shut it down because assange is most likely receiving the leaked emails from russia who wants to interfere in the election. Ecuador shut down his internet because the guy went from asset to liability.

Veritas project? Putin trying to have friendlier relations with the US? To me it seems like you live in a different planet than the rest of us. One where all conspiracy theories are true. And the amount of people that listen to someone don't really matter in this case. Trump being a competent businessman is simply false. His multiple bankruptcies are more than enough evidence of that. Trump's tax plans would do nothing short of exploding the US deficits. And I am not sure you even understand US debt.

Honestly, I am 99% your post is just trolling, I can't fathom anyone believing the stuff you mention. But then again trump supporters exist so....

 

[shionoro]

Running rallies? I am not sure of what you mean here.... Trump is without a doubt better than hillary at putting a show but why does hillary have to be like that?

Julian assange's internet connection was shut down by ecuador.... The guy served his purpose years ago so that the country's sad excuse of a government could pretend they were for free expression while they actively tried to interfere and sue all major newspapers in the country. And now they shut it down because assange is most likely receiving the leaked emails from russia who wants to interfere in the election. Ecuador shut down his internet because the guy went from asset to liability.

Veritas project? Putin trying to have friendlier relations with the US? To me it seems like you live in a different planet than the rest of us. One where all conspiracy theories are true. And the amount of people that listen to someone don't really matter in this case. Trump being a competent businessman is simply false. His multiple bankruptcies are more than enough evidence of that. Trump's tax plans would do nothing short of exploding the US deficits. And I am not sure you even understand US debt.

Honestly, I am 99% your post is just trolling, I can't fathom anyone believing the stuff you mention. But then again trump supporters exist so....

Putin supporters are like the trumpsupporters of europe.

 

[Onyx Darkmatter]

So the final debates will be on tonight, and I can only say that Trump NEEDS to get his shit together if he wants to win the race.
If he answers the questions with an on-topic answer, then I think he'll have a chance at the Election. But at this point, he might as well as take the American Flag, shit on it, and give the middle finger to voters if he can't answer a simple question without going off-topic.
I think this Debate matters than the previous 2, probably because it's the final debate and the countdown to the election date is getting closer (while voters who're still undecided could make their final decision: either vote for Hillary, Trump, or just don't vote at all).

 

[shionoro]

So the final debates will be on tonight, and I can only say that Trump NEEDS to get his shit together if he wants to win the race.
If he answers the questions with an on-topic answer, then I think he'll have a chance at the Election. But at this point, he might as well as take the American Flag, shit on it, and give the middle finger to voters if he can't answer a simple question without going off-topic.
I think this Debate matters than the previous 2, probably because it's the final debate and the countdown to the election date is getting closer.

HIstorically, third debates matter less than the first two.
Usually, they only change outcomes about 1%.
But trump did so horrible in the first debate, that he could convince a lot of voters that he is not actually so bad, appologize for his behaviour completely and try the 'i have honestly changed, i am sorry' route.

But.....ya....a 500 pounds person could also eat healthy and work out every day to get healthy again. And i give that person better chances to ever run a marathon than i give trump to be able to go through this debate as an honest man with good intentions who does not just say mean things to his opponent.

 

[SharkBait]

If trump can stay focused on the issues and ignore personal attacks, this can be solid.

 

[shionoro]

If trump can stay focused on the issues and ignore personal attacks, this can be solid.

Ya, but as i said. He won't. He knew that was what he had to do in the second debate, he still threatened her with jail.

 

[Onyx Darkmatter]

HIstorically, third debates matter less than the first two.
Usually, they only change outcomes about 1%.
But trump did so horrible in the first debate, that he could convince a lot of voters that he is not actually so bad, appologize for his behaviour completely and try the 'i have honestly changed, i am sorry' route.

But.....ya....a 500 pounds person could also eat healthy and work out every day to get healthy again. And i give that person better chances to ever run a marathon than i give trump to be able to go through this debate as an honest man with good intentions who does not just say mean things to his opponent.

True, but I can see the third debate quite relevant, especially with the whole Wikileaks that could allow Trump to win the election. It's like Assange is giving him a pass to be the winner.
I mean, I do think this debate could make a difference for Trump (first time for everything), but that's assuming he doesn't fuck up.

 

[M3J]

I still don't see how that is true.... There wasn't any actual fraud. What the DNC did was support hillary and discuss how to get her more support however as far as the actual voting goes they did not actually committed fraud. They were assholes but what they did does not account for the sheer difference in votes each got. At least, I wouldn't think so. Ultimately the issue was that bernie could simply not convince as many democrats that he was the best choice. As obama did against hillary 8 years ago.

Regardless, still deceitful, and they were clearly working against Bernie. Bernie barely received any attention from the media or DNC, it was mainly Hillary who got attention, so of course more people would vote for her. Imagine if Bernie had the same amount of attention from the start, or even similar - we'd be seeing Bernie vs. Trump.

plus, Bernie did not serve the democrats' interests.

Who is Breibart? Sorry but it´s the first time, someone mentions him to me.

A shitty conservative source that supports Trump, which means they'll share any stupid article against Hillary/dems and any even stupider ones for Trump.

 

[SharkBait]

If one supports Trump then they are not conservative, sorry.