American Politics

[Philia]

Taking it from who exactly? Or I guess you think a useless border wall that will never get built or the trillion plus dollars we've spent on the F-35 is a better use of government money?

You saying this with a Trump set looks weird
Where are you @Charlie? Your vote did it in Philly

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 9, 2016, Original Post Date: Nov 9, 2016 ---

Pennsylvania is a surprise though. Obamas and Clintons campaigned heavily there.

 

[xi0]

You saying this with a Trump set looks weird :xD

No no, let's talk more about his stupid tabloid nonsense...that's clearly more substantive than how he actually views global affairs

 

[Spirit]

Alaska's results are coming out now and it has Trump leading

 

[Styx]

Taking it from who exactly? Or I guess you think a useless border wall that will never get built or the trillion plus dollars we've spent on the F-35 is a better use of government money? We wouldn't want to empty out of the pockets of poor little Lockheed Martin, would we?

Are you kidding me? Who else?

The idea of a better border is not useless. I do not agree with Trump's methods or ideas of achieving it at all, so I would appreciate it if you didn't assume that I did....

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 9, 2016, Original Post Date: Nov 9, 2016 ---

ABC says there is a 70k vote between Hillary and Trump with 82% of the votes in for Michigan. Some people are wanting a recount in Pennsylvania.

 

[Spirit]

Trump won PA
6 EC's needed to win Presidency

 

[Styx]

Trump won PA
6 EC's needed to win Presidency

Really? Wasn't it only at 82% votes in? That means Hillary has to win Michigan, Wisconsin and Arizona. The later of which should not be easy for her.

 

[Philia]

Michigan, Wisconsin, Alaska and Arizona gets him to 304.

 

[Styx]

CNN is calling Alaska for Trump with 3 Electoral votes.

 

[xi0]

Are you kidding me? Who else?

The idea of a better border is not useless. I do not agree with Trump's methods or ideas of achieving it at all, so I would appreciate it if you didn't assume that I did....

I'm not an economist...but I don't think it is an unreasonable goal for us. Just like universal healthcare isn't/wasn't.

I did not argue against a better border, I argued against Trump's plan. I'm not arguing against enforcing our laws in a humane way either. But the reality of the logistics is completely ignored by his supporters. And I wasn't really assuming you to be one of these people either, I was being curious, not confrontational.

 

[Philia]

Michigan and Wisconsin betrayed Hillary. I guess she took them for granted.

But she did a lot of campaign in Pennsylvania. How did Trump get it? This is the biggest surprise of this election.

 

[Styx]

I'm not an economist...but I don't think it is an unreasonable goal for us. Just like universal healthcare isn't/wasn't.

I did not argue against a better border, I argued against Trump's plan. I'm not arguing against enforcing our laws in a humane way either. But the reality of the logistics is completely ignored by his supporters. And I wasn't really assuming you to be one of these people either, I was being curious, not confrontational.

The things Obama pushed on us ended up breaking the poor class further. It isn't wise or right to push further socialistic plans that are as extreme as some of Bernie's plans.

Oh, well, then we're in agreement. I heavily disagree with Trump's plans on the border too. A lot of his supporters cannot understand how he'll do it either but seem to believe somehow he'll do it...

 

[Spirit]

 

[xi0]

But she did a lot of campaign in Pennsylvania. How did Trump get it? This is the biggest surprise of this election.

Pennsylvania is Rustbelt, just like Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio. They're really not much different in demographic.

 

[Styx]

Update:

Trump wins:

• Alabama
• Alaska
• Arkansas
• Florida
• Georgia
• Idaho
• Indiana
• Iowa
• Kansas
• Kentucky
• Louisiana
• Mississippi
• Missouri
• Montana
• Nebraska
• North Carolina
• North Dakota
• Ohio
• Oklahoma
• Pennsylvania
• South Carolina
• South Dakota
• Tennessee
• Texas
• Utah
• West Virginia
• Wisconsin
• Wyomin

Electoral vote total: 278/270

Clinton wins:

• California
• Colorado
• Connecticut
• Delaware
• Hawaii
• Illinois
• Maryland
• Massachusetts
• Nevada
• New Jersey
• New Mexico
• New York
• Oregon
• Rhode Island
• Vermont
• Virginia
• Washington
• Washington DC

Electoral vote total: 215/270

 

[M3J]

Feel like i wasted my vote on hillary never again will i vote across party lines. At least all my other candidates crushed the liberal inquisition. And republicans maintain house majority. Thank you.

Republicans will seriously regress this country with their horrible, outdated views and hurt so many people. Congratulations.

Kudos to the DNC for shilling hardcore for a candidate that the average American voter didn't feel compelled to vote for

Democrats deserve so much blame for fucking themselves in the ass by being all Hillary.

A republican President and a republican controlled senate. During Bush era they had it.

No better way to regress the country immensely than to have conservatives control everything. NOt sure if some of the fears like overturning Roe vs. Wae are true though, esp when xi0 says it's impossible.

A lot of people dismiss the more deplorable things, I know. My problem with Trump has always been about his policy and the way he thinks.

I think when this was all starting up, people were speculating on a Trump presidency being more moderate, due to his liberal past.....but it's still a massive crapshoot.

Trump and liberal?

I'm lost.


For people who keep insisting Trump supporters aren't or aren't as violent as Hillary supporters
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...rape-lawsuit-13-year-old-cancels-public-event

 

[z.5]

Think she will be back in 4 years time - or is the shame of losing to Trump too much to ever show her face again?!?

 

[Styx]

We're just waiting for an official declaration from some last states, but most media calls it an end and assume Trump as President Elect. (look above)

 

[ShadowHeart]

Looks like all the sexist and racist American assholes crawled out of the woodwork to vote for that twat.

 

[xi0]

The things Obama pushed on us ended up breaking the poor class further. It isn't wise or right to push further socialistic plans that are as extreme as some of Bernie's plans.

Oh, well, then we're in agreement. I heavily disagree with Trump's plans on the border too. A lot of his supporters cannot understand how he'll do it either but seem to believe somehow he'll do it...

I'm not saying the UHCA has gone as planned, but I don't think it was bad decision. I could care less whether the right to healthcare is "socialistic" or not. People being refused care for whatever reason is immoral. The reason people are against it is insurance being employer-based. It shouldn't have been that way in the first place.

Because people are stupid. It would be violating the constitution, but I think we'd be a lot better off if voter registration required an IQ test or something....

 

[Styx]

Think she will be back in 4 years time - or is the shame of losing to Trump too much to ever show her face again?!?

She'll be back alright, but if better options turn out she may face similar defeat again.