American Politics

[xi0]

Have you noticed Elon Musk and Joe Rogan moving from california to texas.

Imagine a republican who drives a big truck, who owns 50 shotguns saying we should have a right wing conservative gathering in california. Or a democrat city like charlottesville.

Real republicans don't want to visit blue states, much less hold their pivotal political rallies in them.

"Unite the right" was a fake political rally if there ever was one.

Nothing can ever be taken at face value, can it?

BTW conservatives are doing exactly what you're talking about with the trucker convoy rallies. And before you play the same bullshit card, there was a shitload of astroturfing going on by conservatives with deep pockets.

Next time just continue talking about taxes and admit you just don't give a shit about white supremacy or ethno-nationalism. It would certainly be more palatable than acting like it's existence is a conspiracy theory.

 

[Sanity Check]

Nothing can ever be taken at face value, can it?

BTW conservatives are doing exactly what you're talking about with the trucker convoy rallies. And before you play the same bullshit card, there was a shitload of astroturfing going on by conservatives with deep pockets.

Next time just continue talking about taxes and admit you just don't give a shit about white supremacy or ethno-nationalism. It would certainly be more palatable than acting like it's existence is a conspiracy theory.

A person with basic deduction and logic skills.

Might disprove trucker convoys being a right wing conservative movement.

Summarized in 3 pictures.

Black Lives Matter blocking roads

Antifa blocking roads

Trucker convoys blocking roads and being towed

...


Blocking roads isn't a tactic right wing conservatives approve of.

They know people have jobs and need to get to work.

Road blocks are more commonly a tactic of democrat affiliated parties.

If I had to guess, democrats played a role in the above as well.

 

[DeadCosmos]

that is very ignorant. What about people who can't get vaccine due to lack of accessibility or because their body can't handle it? Why should they die because the government failed them or because their body isn't strong enough?

Then they die! It is both! The government is responsible for millions of deaths, but the republicans and democrats are too busy fighting eachother to see the REAL enemy.If someone has a very weak body, then they are doomed, it is natural selection!

 

[xi0]

A person with basic deduction and logic skills.

Might disprove trucker convoys being a right wing conservative movement.

Summarized in 3 pictures.

Black Lives Matter blocking roads

Antifa blocking roads

Trucker convoys blocking roads and being towed

...


Blocking roads isn't a tactic right wing conservatives approve of.

They know people have jobs and need to get to work.

Road blocks are more commonly a tactic of democrat affiliated parties.

If I had to guess, democrats played a role in the above as well.

"Basic deduction and logic skills" would tell you this is a textbook example of a No True Scotsman fallacy.

You don't approve of it so it isn't what conservatives approve of? You don't approve of it. It's perfectly fine to not be in lockstep. It also doesn't require you to deny reality either.

 

[Sanity Check]

Wtf is "soyboys?"

There is a theorem in fitness and nutrition circles.

That claims soy consumption reduces testosterone production in men.

In theory, male asians have reduced average levels of body hair and other features correlated with higher testosterone, due to elevated soy consumption over multiple generations.

Justin Trudeau and Macron appear to have reduced test levels judging by their slender builds and lack of facial hair. They represent the final evolution of the "soy boy" movement, whereby male test levels appear to be decreasing on a generational basis.

Basic origin story behind the "soy boy" term 101.

 

[xi0]

Hope you notice that when people bring up stupid shit Democrats do, no one here is trying to say they're actually Republicans

 

[kkck]

About high commodity prices. I say we declare this whole pandemic thing over. No mandatory masks or vaccine or social distancing. (if someone dies cus they didnt get the vaccine or protect themselves properly, I say it is their fault and it was deserved, they should have had plenty of time to get the shot!) No more of that stimulus check stuff, inflation too high already! We encourage working and raise the federal minimum wage by a dollar every 3-6 months to a max of $14 or $15. Drill our own oil! Interest rate hikes! Less democrats and keep/put the people in prison so there is less crime and better communities! Housing regulation, we end the rich people taking over the homes and making them so expensive, I heard the chinese are buying our land, that is RIDICULOUS. Less taxation or more taxation regulation, especially on the corporations/rich. They have so much money and power and are not doing enough good with it.

I don't disagree with most of those but none of that will do much for commodity prices. What was driving prices up during the pandemic was insane freight costs alongside insane demand once the recovery started kicking in. And now you have the war in ukraine along with the impact sanctions in russia will have. This is a global issue which can't be solved by something as small as the US presidency or other politicians. On the commodity angle unfortunately we simply have to wait for a market correction if you will and hope no one else throws a wrench at the world economy gears (looks at china and taiwan).

 

[Sanity Check]

Hope you notice that when people bring up stupid shit Democrats do, no one here is trying to say they're actually Republicans

A dog poops in a yard.

Republicans form a committee to handle this crisis.

After countless man hours of deliberation, republicans determine the best course of action is to pray to God to fix everything.

The dog poops in the yard again.

Republicans again convene and form a committee to handle the crisis.

Again the consensus is praying to God will fix everything.

The dog continues to poop in the yard.

Eventually, the entire yard is full of metric tons of dog poop.

Republicans could never have imagined this outcome in a million years, how did this happen, why did no one warn them.

Republicans: "God why hast thou forsaken us."

...

Had you criticized republicans using this format, I definitely would have agreed this was a good representation of them.

Strangely enough most criticisms of the right do not align with their values or stereotype.

 

[xi0]

A person with basic deduction and logic skills.

Might disprove the enjoyment of McDonalds as a conservative movement.

Summarized in 3 pictures.

Barack Hussein Obabe enjoying McDonalds

The Antichrist and her man-wife enjoying McDonalds

Trump really enjoying 75% of the I-95 corridor's McDonald's supply

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Habitual and grotesque enjoyment of McDonalds isn't something right wing conservatives approve of.

They know people prefer their food to be fresh and not frozen

Mass consumption of McDonalds is known to be more characteristic of democrat affiliated parties.

If I had to guess, democrats played a role in the above as well.

 

[M3J]

There is a theorem in fitness and nutrition circles.

That claims soy consumption reduces testosterone production in men.

In theory, male asians have reduced average levels of body hair and other features correlated with higher testosterone, due to elevated soy consumption over multiple generations.

Justin Trudeau and Macron appear to have reduced test levels judging by their slender builds and lack of facial hair. They represent the final evolution of the "soy boy" movement, whereby male test levels appear to be decreasing on a generational basis.

Basic origin story behind the "soy boy" term 101.

what in the entire fuck is this stupidity?

 

[DeadCosmos]

Im confused, they are republicans... trump ordered the mcdonalds and the antivaxxers are pretty much republicans

 

[Sanity Check]

what in the entire fuck is this stupidity?

Dietary soy-phytoestrogens decrease testosterone levels and prostate weight without altering LH, prostate 5alpha-reductase or testicular steroidogenic acute regulatory peptide levels in adult male Sprague-Dawley rats - PubMed

Nutritional factors, especially phytoestrogens, have been extensively studied for their potential beneficial effects against hormone-dependent and age-related diseases. The present study describes the short-term effects of dietary phytoestrogens on regulatory behaviors (food/water intake...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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The Antichrist and her man-wife enjoying McDonalds

It might be possible to logically deduce the identity of the antichrist mentioned in the bible.

As well as the Whore of Babylon and the Beast.

Neither of the Clintons qualify IMO.

They know people prefer their food to be fresh and not frozen

Mass consumption of McDonalds is known to be more characteristic of democrat affiliated parties.

Unless people grow their own food, there isn't much opportunity to avoid mcdonald's in american markets.

Meat and vegetable markets are heavily centralized under a small number of providers.

A good percentage of american food products today are processed in china.

 

[ninjabot]

Republicans are all about God, Guns and the Constitution.

That's the claim.

Charlottesville south carolina is a democrat city, in a democrat state.

Why do you think this means anything? That's the reason the vote to remove the Robert E. Lee statue went through. And that's the reason racist Republicans converged on it: to protest a democratically made decision.

I'm pretty sure those crazy people shouting "jews will not replace us, blood and soil" were all registered democrats.

Please demonstrate that these people were registered Democrats. It was called the Unite the Right rally. Right refers to Republicans. They were Republicans.

Could not relate to those people at all.

They were the opposite of the fox news stereotype.

They do fit the Trump Republican stereotype though. The one the world thinks of when it hears the word Republican. Or Trump for that matter. You didn't answer my question about whether the United States, or the world for that matter, truly hates the Democratic party or not. You implied it earlier. Are you conceding that you were wrong?

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

No you can't.

What stupid 'I know you are but what am I' shit is this, child?

Yes, yes I can. Please be a harder apologist for your soshuliss buddy who can't put more than 500 to his name (by his own words), yet has alllll the time in the world for next gen games (and consoles and/or gaming rigs too apparently...), to post on forums, read everything he's told like a typical leftist caricature (and write responses about it!), etc etc - but not deliver pizza/sell shit on ebay/cut grass/bike messenger/any gig job ever/work OT/go back to school/get a PT SaaS sales job/sell seedlings/pimp self out (sex work is real work after all) or any of the other myriad things to assist his situation. Saying nothing of the almost certain ability to cut back expenses in food, entertainment, vices, whatever. I'm almost 100% certain I could look at his lifestyle and immediately identify ways to save AND make money - but that would actually mean hard work, less games, putting in the time, and a different quality of life. Almost anyone short of someone existing in an iron lung can do simple steps to build up a savings at the very least. Easier to boo-hoo about it online though.


It's fucking hilarious that playing games and being a twitterati soshuliss go hand-in-hand. Maybe not as hilarious as it is sad.

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Your right to fill the air with covid ends at my... well also my nose.

Tell me more about how you aren't part of the problem with 'science' based commentary like this.

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Funnily enough, a revision or removal of the electoral college would help loosen the grip the two party system has on current politics.

One party is aware of this and is still at least appearing to be more open to it than the other... curious!

So, depending on the year and who is in office, Dems aren't leveraging their benefits to the electoral college, Gerrymandering/redistricting, executive orders, filibusters, etc?

I always find the 'the other side does it more' argument a bit curious.

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Hope you notice that when people bring up stupid shit Democrats do, no one here is trying to say they're actually Republicans

Implying both parties don't wear clown-shoes?

What are you getting at? Who *wants* to be affiliated with either party?

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Wtf is "soyboys?" Conservatives really do love making up words or using words incorrectly to insult others.

If terms like 'redneck' or 'gun-toting ____' or 'Christian extremist' or 'deplorables' or any other similar term is appropriate (either in your mind or public vernacular) for the bulk of conservatives, then 'soyboys' perfectly encapsulates everything it is to be a latte-sippin', vegan, weak, pale, effeminite, black skinny-jeans, self-proclaimed 'male feminist', white-tower, limousine liberal.

Now, are you going to pretend that you don't know what the word signifies, or don't have google, or something else along those lines?




That said, I think the dropping of testosterone has more to do with other environmental factors than periodic soy consumption. The volume of soy needed to be consumed to have any effect on T production is extremely high, even in mice (which doesn't even necessarily transferable to humans as always is the case), soy is consumed in high volumes in Eastern cultures without effect, and TVP is in everything now so it's hard enough to avoid anyways.

In short, I think 'soyboy' is a misnomer, but still hits to the heart of what it intends to identify.

 

[kkck]

I wonder if conspiracy theories are actually considered by russia when deciding it's military tactics during ukraine's invasion. Take the bombing of hospitals. To begin with ukraine has been the subject of conspiracy theories for years. Most of which were of course meant to be consumed primarily by right wingers (who did gladly chug them). Getting a tad more specific, Qanon had a party with these. And Qanon continues to have such party. In this circles you already have people believing putin is basically a hero who is out to free ukriane, stop democrats from cannibalizing children and then invade the rest of europe to free it. Basically, maybe russia could feel more... confident about bombing civilian infrastructure (though hospitals have clear military value just in general) because literally millions of people will believe right of the bat with no questions asked that putin saved children from whatever inane things conspiracy theorists believe is happening.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Who knows. Just a few days ago US biolabs in Ukraine was a laughable conspiracy.

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I feel safer already.

BRB, going to work on bunker now.

 

[shionoro]

I read that story a few days ago... doesn't it read a bit too propaganda-ish? It's definitely propaganda but.. for whom?

but yeah, russia's army seems to be more and more of a joke by the day. Waiting for a MoaBs now...

It was a Russian State source. So if it is propaganda, it was meant to be propaganda pro Russia. That is their job. It is also not unheard of to be that incompetent.
Azerbaidschan, in the war between Armenia and Azerbaidschan, had timed tweets that were like "Armenia broke the ceasefire at Tuesday 8am! We started fighting them again!" that were sent out on monday as a mistake.

So ya, there was a russian state propaganda source that had an article preplanned that claimed victory on day 2 of the war. That's pretty crystal clear.
It is also consistent with how Russia conducted the war at the early stages. If they had wanted to lead a war for a month, they would not have thrown paratroopers to their assured death over kyiv but instead moved slowly and methodically.

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I wonder if conspiracy theories are actually considered by russia when deciding it's military tactics during ukraine's invasion. Take the bombing of hospitals. To begin with ukraine has been the subject of conspiracy theories for years. Most of which were of course meant to be consumed primarily by right wingers (who did gladly chug them). Getting a tad more specific, Qanon had a party with these. And Qanon continues to have such party. In this circles you already have people believing putin is basically a hero who is out to free ukriane, stop democrats from cannibalizing children and then invade the rest of europe to free it. Basically, maybe russia could feel more... confident about bombing civilian infrastructure (though hospitals have clear military value just in general) because literally millions of people will believe right of the bat with no questions asked that putin saved children from whatever inane things conspiracy theorists believe is happening.

As far as i know, they do. Russia does both: Creating new conspiracy theories in troll farms but also enhancing existing ones by giving them credence.
Trump did the same, didn't he? He gladly endorsed Q Anon's trump cult by playing along.

I think it might become apparent in the next few years just how much of our propaganda was created by russian troll farms.
Covid denial, Qanon, Pizzagate but also the european outlets with anti Green propaganda, 5G hoaxes... there are endless examples.
And I think quite lots of them, especially in election years, will get far weaker without russian interference.

There is also more than just the insane ones. For example, Germany's north stream 2 project was also funded on more trustworthy propaganda to an extent. It is true that german politics also liked cheap gas, but claims like "without russian gas, germany's economy will collapse' goes back to russian propaganda and has no basis in reality, yet even reputable people believed and perpetuated it.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Every story I don't like is Russian propaganda.

 

[shionoro]

Every story I don't like is Russian propaganda.

You are the guy who trusts kremlin mouthpieces that worked for russia today. As long as they say that they worked for russia today i guess, lol.

You are the most suspectible kind of person for propaganda, because you think you are cautious while being spoonfed all kinds of outrageous lies.

 

[kkck]

It was a Russian State source. So if it is propaganda, it was meant to be propaganda pro Russia. That is their job. It is also not unheard of to be that incompetent.
Azerbaidschan, in the war between Armenia and Azerbaidschan, had timed tweets that were like "Armenia broke the ceasefire at Tuesday 8am! We started fighting them again!" that were sent out on monday as a mistake.

So ya, there was a russian state propaganda source that had an article preplanned that claimed victory on day 2 of the war. That's pretty crystal clear.
It is also consistent with how Russia conducted the war at the early stages. If they had wanted to lead a war for a month, they would not have thrown paratroopers to their assured death over kyiv but instead moved slowly and methodically.

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As far as i know, they do. Russia does both: Creating new conspiracy theories in troll farms but also enhancing existing ones by giving them credence.
Trump did the same, didn't he? He gladly endorsed Q Anon's trump cult by playing along.

I think it might become apparent in the next few years just how much of our propaganda was created by russian troll farms.
Covid denial, Qanon, Pizzagate but also the european outlets with anti Green propaganda, 5G hoaxes... there are endless examples.
And I think quite lots of them, especially in election years, will get far weaker without russian interference.

There is also more than just the insane ones. For example, Germany's north stream 2 project was also funded on more trustworthy propaganda to an extent. It is true that german politics also liked cheap gas, but claims like "without russian gas, germany's economy will collapse' goes back to russian propaganda and has no basis in reality, yet even reputable people believed and perpetuated it.

Yeah but, is it confirmed they did this? It's not possible someone else planted this to make russians look bad? erh, worst?

Oh, I don't doubt russia's role in conspiracy theories. That's a given. More like, I was wondering if conspiracy theories factor into their military tactics. Taking advantage of the reduced outrage they would cause over a painfully significant portion of the population believing elites ate children in them or some other nonsense.