American Politics

[Sanity Check]

Feels like our collective free speech rights might deserve more of his time?

If the richest man in the world, doesn't feel safe.

Who is safe.

They tried to blame Elon Musk for the crash of dogecoin, bitcoin and global hunger.

Now they're attacking Elon, which makes him look like the good guy and victim.

This could backfire in the worst way.

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Tesla hit $666.66 in after hours trading today.

 

[xi0]

If the richest man in the world, doesn't feel safe.

Who is safe.

They tried to blame Elon Musk for the crash of dogecoin, bitcoin and global hunger.

Now they're attacking Elon, which makes him look like the good guy and victim.

This could backfire in the worst way.

Doesn't feel safe? What does that even mean...?

He's engaged in clear manipulation of coins though. And he gets away with it because there's no regulatory body, as everyone intended, right?

He can blame biased media and timing all he wants, if he paid that woman 250k "severance" then that matters more than whatever political handwaving people insist on.

 

[Sanity Check]

He's engaged in clear manipulation of coins though.

Market traders with billions in buy/sell volume can manipulate markets.

None of Elon's $$$ is invested in that role.

The one time Elon tried to manipulate the market was when he said dogecoin was going to the moon on SNL.

Dogecoin's value decreased in real time, which indicates Elon has no control over markets.

Regulatory agencies like the SEC absolutely hate Elon and have tried repeatedly to pressure him into deleting past tweets & abandoning social media.

 

[xi0]

Market traders with billions in buy/sell volume can manipulate markets.

None of Elon's $$$ is invested in that role.

The one time Elon tried to manipulate the market was when he said dogecoin was going to the moon on SNL.

Dogecoin's value decreased in real time, which indicates Elon has no control over markets.

Regulatory agencies like the SEC absolutely hate Elon and have tried repeatedly to pressure him into abandoning social media.

Yeah and they deserve the guillotine SEC investigation too.

If you're bringing up one example, it can't really be indicative of anything, can it? Plus, there's always been the speculation that Elon is Satoshi Nakamoto or one of the people behind the moniker.

And why do you think an agency like the SEC would want to pressure Elon Musk to change his social media habits???

But again, this doesn't seem related to why you are bringing up the world's richest man not "feeling safe"

 

[Sanity Check]

Tesla recalls 130,000 vehicles in U.S. over touchscreen display malfunction

Tesla Inc is recalling about 130,000 vehicles in the United States following an overheating issue that may cause the center touchscreen display to malfunction, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said on Tuesday.

www.reuters.com

Recalls like the above are what I believe prompted Elon's attempt to buy twitter.

Tesla is being supplied defective components in large quantities, which Elon is interpreting as an attack on him and his company.

He retaliated by trying to buy twitter and reinstate Trump.

But Trump appears to be done with politics, he has already said he's never returning to twitter due to his current commitment to the truth social platform.

Whether these motivations are real or imagined, is anyone's guess. Many automotive companies have issued similar vehicle recalls due to defective components in the past.

That appears to be how things are playing out.

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There are other events which factor in, which most would not be aware of.

 

[M3J]

If the richest man in the world, doesn't feel safe.

He feels safe, he's just bullshitting and acting like a victim because adults cannot comprehend the concept of accountability when it comes to themselves. Plus, having a loyal fanbase means support, whether for presidency or products. Means more money for him.

 

[xi0]

Tesla recalls 130,000 vehicles in U.S. over touchscreen display malfunction

Tesla Inc is recalling about 130,000 vehicles in the United States following an overheating issue that may cause the center touchscreen display to malfunction, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said on Tuesday.

www.reuters.com

Recalls like the above are what I believe prompted Elon's attempt to buy twitter.

Tesla is being supplied defective components in large quantities, which Elon is interpreting as an attack on him and his company.

He retaliated by trying to buy twitter and reinstate Trump.

But Trump appears to be done with politics, he has already said he's never returning to twitter due to his current commitment to the truth social platform.

Whether these motivations are real or imagined, is anyone's guess. Many automotive companies have issued similar vehicle recalls due to defective components in the past.

That appears to be how things are playing out.

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There are other events which factor in, which most would not be aware of.

This really just amounts to "trust me bro" conspiracy theories coming from the "victim" of said conspiracy theories and who else? His army of twitter stans?

What's more likely, that this is yet another excuse to avoid tanking Tesla's inflated stock price, amid all other kinds of QA issues the company has that aren't necessarily related to defective electronic equipment or.... everyone is out to get him?

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What exactly is it about Elon Musk that differentiates him from any other technocrat billionaire? What is it with this hardcore cope people have?

 

[Sanity Check]

This really just amounts to "trust me bro" conspiracy theories coming from the "victim" of said conspiracy theories and who else? His army of twitter stans?

What's more likely, that this is yet another excuse to avoid tanking Tesla's inflated stock price, amid all other kinds of QA issues the company has that aren't necessarily related to defective electronic equipment or.... everyone is out to get him?

I think a good approach to this topic.

Is to read comments on youtube and social media.

To see what ordinary everyday people say and think about this.

Its public opinion after all, which will decide the course of events.

And the degree to which people are making an effort to be informed and educated.

I see a lot of "Elon Musk is a hero" comments btw.

 

[xi0]

To see what ordinary everyday people say and think about this.

Its public opinion after all, which will decide the course of events.

You're not really that naive are you? What do any of those people have to do with which company is subsidized or who buys Twitter?

It's people like Musk that will decide the course of events, he's just foolish enough to be as public-facing as he is so he gets more heat.

 

[M3J]

What exactly is it about Elon Musk that differentiates him from any other technocrat billionaire? What is it with this hardcore cope people have?

Tesla being green and self-driving, as well as him taking credit for other people's work, making his fans think he's smart. Plus, he's good at manipulating, and he knows what to say and how to appeal to people, like defending Trump and whining about freedom of speech.

 

[shionoro]

What exactly is it about Elon Musk that differentiates him from any other technocrat billionaire? What is it with this hardcore cope people have?

I think its the vision and his "noncorporate" style.

Jeff Bezos, Zuckerberg, they have "visions", but as in, their company wants to do stuff with drones and virtual reality. It does not have the touch of "a guy who wants to go to space".
Bezos owns amazon and makes money with it, musk is like a kid who has several companies as toys. That appeals to people who want to be like that.

His loose style, getting into twitter fights and saying what he wants, appeals especially to 20-40 dudes who think the world should listen to them. Its this guy who "makes the world his bitch", like trump but smarter, younger, richer and with cool tech.

Musk gives people the idea that a single man can really move the world, even in modern times, if he is just capable enough, while most other billionaires look like "parts of the system" in comparison.

 

[xi0]

I think its the vision and his "noncorporate" style.

Jeff Bezos, Zuckerberg, they have "visions", but as in, their company wants to do stuff with drones and virtual reality. It does not have the touch of "a guy who wants to go to space".
Bezos owns amazon and makes money with it, musk is like a kid who has several companies as toys. That appeals to people who want to be like that.

His loose style, getting into twitter fights and saying what he wants, appeals especially to 20-40 dudes who think the world should listen to them. Its this guy who "makes the world his bitch", like trump but smarter, younger, richer and with cool tech.

Musk gives people the idea that a single man can really move the world, even in modern times, if he is just capable enough, while most other billionaires look like "parts of the system" in comparison.

These are reasons why he has the kind of support he has, it's not reasons that differentiate between him and any other elite wealthy person. If you take what he says at face value and conveniently separate his "vision" from the kind of affect it has on the average person then you are doing the dirty PR job for him.

It's a bit easier to understand if someone is rich because they bought Tesla stock, but obviously the majority of his hardcore supporters aren't that.

 

[Sanity Check]

You're not really that naive are you? What do any of those people have to do with which company is subsidized or who buys Twitter?

The public represent more than 99.9% of the world's population.

Their opinion might matter.

Don't forget that it was public opinion that forced the USSR to embrace capitalism and a more democratic form of rule.

The majority can be relevant sometimes.

Not all the time. But once in awhile they are.

And thus this is the demographic that is generally appealed to.

 

[xi0]

None of that has anything to do with business. Public opinion is that something criminal happened in 2008 that led to the market crash.

No one saw any jail time.

 

[Sanity Check]

None of that has anything to do with business. Public opinion is that something criminal happened in 2008 that led to the market crash.

No one saw any jail time.

Bankers in iceland incurred jail time for the 2008 crash.

When hungary finished paying off their 2008 loan from banks, they kicked banks out of their country.

The 2008 crash may also have contributed to bitcon, #brexit, arab spring and other independence movements around the world.

(As an american I find it hilarious that I know this, while most europeans do not. )

Netflix subscribers are said to be leaving netflix in large numbers as a backlash against "woke' content.

The NFL suffered record low ratings when NFL players took a knee in protest of the USA.

Madonna had trouble selling tickets to concerts after she attacked Trump publicly.

While the public may not be communicating and organizing, they are individually boycotting things which do not appeal to their values.

While also apparently embracing businesses, people and things which they feel have their interests at heart.

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I watched the last tesla event in texas. There were women in the crowd crying over Elon Musk. Like there are at Justin Bieber events. If you can believe that.

Elon is getting more pop these days, than he used to.

 

[xi0]

That's seems like a whole lot of unrelated nonsense....

I was talking about in the US since it happened due to American "investors". In a capitalist organization the economy, the only thing that matters is capital and the things that protect/bolster it.

 

[Sanity Check]

That's as whole lot of unrelated nonsense....

I was talking about in the US since it happened due to American "investors". In a capitalist organization the economy, the only thing that matters is capital and the things that protect/bolster it.

This will be a good topic to revisit weeks or months from now.

My track record of making these types of calls is decent.

Only time will tell, how events pan out.

 

[xi0]

This will be a good topic to revisit weeks or months from now.

My track record of making these types of calls is decent.

Only time will tell, how events pan out.

What events?

You are acting like there's some sort of exceptionalism going on with Musk despite his entire makeup suggesting the opposite. That is certainly not indicative of any "track record" worth boasting about.

 

[Franckie]

Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos demonstrate just how thin skinned business elites really are and how dependent they are upon welfare for the wealthy. They also demonstrate how elites don't fully understand politics 101. If the GOP wins 100% control of both Congress and the presidency, which is easy thanks to a combination of geography and gerrymandering, they'll quickly turn this country into an anocracy like what Russia has become.

 

[shionoro]

Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos demonstrate just how thin skinned business elites really are and how dependent they are upon welfare for the wealthy. They also demonstrate how elites don't fully understand politics 101. If the GOP wins 100% control of both Congress and the presidency, which is easy thanks to a combination of geography and gerrymandering, they'll quickly turn this country into an anocracy like what Russia has become.

But Jeff Bezos and Leon Musk would like that because that is where you dont look kindly on unions.