Fantasy August vs Irene

[sharkai]

Gildarts and Natsu can destroy Deus Sema if they are in POF. And August can destroy it, he has the best durability feats among the 12.

how do you know this? why would a weaker mage like gildarts destroy irene deus sema. could gmg lyon destroy gmg jellal sema

 

[Darklord#10]

WTF even Animus didn't get destroyed by a half dragonize natsu the way Eileen did. GTFO

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why would a weaker mage like gildarts destroy irene deus sema.

Gildarts>Erza even with POF. At best you can argue that POF Erza is on par with gildarts. She's not above him. The only guild member who is arguably above gildarts is dragon force natsu and some of natsu's modes

 

[sharkai]

SHE GOT ONE SHOT

and so did aconologia and august.

All august need to do is be stronger than erza that's literally all it takes to wreck Eileen's dragon form and DS magic to

has he shown a move as strong as erza or are just assuming he will have a move that strong?

What is the correlation between this

And this. What is the analogy between both of them

simple.
pof erza was hitting at much higher level then her tier.
that is how she destroyed dues sema.
that is why that move wrecked dragon irene, it was august/irene top tier move which she wasnt immune to. kind of like gmg jura getting hit by his own mt fuji

dragon irene >> human irene > erza
yet erza destroyed dues sema

in gmg
jura >=jellal>>gajeel>lyon
gajeel and lyon should be able to stop jellal sema as well if pof doesnt make you jump tiers.

it was the last arc, we can expect extreme pofs no?

Hell igneel didn't even get one shot by acnologia. Half dead igneel was at a disadvantage against igneel. Not only was he not at full power, acnologia was stronger than him, acnologia was a dragon slayer and he is also immune to magic but igneel managed to keep himself in the fight against acnologia....... dragon Irene got bullied out of her dragon form by just one slash from a dying erza

WTF even Animus didn't get destroyed by a half dragonize natsu the way Eileen did. GTFO

exactly, why do you think irene will be the only dragon weak to ds magic. hell even natsu was using ds scales to defend against suzaku attacks.
do you think mishma hates irene as much as you hate her?

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Gildarts>Erza even with POF. At best you can argue that POF Erza is on par with gildarts. She's not above him. The only guild member who is arguably above gildarts is dragon force natsu and some of natsu's modes

i am comparing irene with gildarts. so yes, dragon irene is much stronger than gildarts. so if he can stop her dues sema, than kagura should be able to stop jellal sema

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all this is from your assumptions @Darklord#10 that pof, even in the end of the series cant make people jump tiers.

 

[Garmadooon]

and so did aconologia and august.


has he shown a move as strong as erza or are just assuming he will have a move that strong?




simple.
pof erza was hitting at much higher level then her tier.
that is how she destroyed dues sema.
that is why that move wrecked dragon irene, it was august/irene top tier move which she wasnt immune to. kind of like gmg jura getting hit by his own mt fuji

dragon irene >> human irene > erza
yet erza destroyed dues sema

in gmg
jura >=jellal>>gajeel>lyon
gajeel and lyon should be able to stop jellal sema as well if pof doesnt make you jump tiers.

it was the last arc, we can expect extreme pofs no?




exactly, why do you think irene will be the only dragon weak to ds magic. hell even natsu was using ds scales to defend against suzaku attacks.
do you think mishma hates irene as much as you hate her?

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i am comparing irene with gildarts. so yes, dragon irene is much stronger than gildarts. so if he can stop her dues sema, than kagura should be able to stop jellal sema

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all this is from your assumptions @Darklord#10 that pof, even in the end of the series cant make people jump tiers.

Stop comparing Irene to Acnologia and August, they didn't get a one shot. August tanked Gildarts strongest attack and got up with minor injuries and Acnologia was on top of POF Natsu, it was Ishgar's power that beat him.

Jellal was above Jura in GMG and would have won with Sema.

No dragon has ever received a shot of DS magic like Irene did.

Are you really comparing Gildarts to Kagura the same girl who got one shot by x791 Erza?

 

[Darklord#10]

so yes, dragon irene is much stronger than gildarts.

Dragon Irene is stronger than erza. She's physically stronger than even august. He'd get one shot by a single paw but that doesn't mean Irene isn't vulnerable to one shot in her dragon form.

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exactly, why do you think irene will be the only dragon weak to ds magic. hell even natsu was using ds scales to defend against suzaku attacks.
do you think mishma hates irene as much as you hate her?

Dogramag also got one shot in his dragon form

 

[Laxuseven]

It has been stated many times that August is the STRONGEST amongst the 12, Irene has been stated as the strongest WOMAN. Also they have been stated to be pârt of the same tier, but that doesn't mean their equal. August is superior to her.

Now based on abilities, Eileen is a caster type so none of her spells nor enchants would work agains august. Her only chance would be physical attacks with her dragon form.

Now She might have superior hysical strenght in dragon form (even if August's physical abilities are tremendous as he made gildarts ( highest phys power in ishgal) look like a child and tanked his strongest attack boosted with his mechanical arm with minimum damage.

Then speed wise August is way faster than Irene if he combines meteor Cobra's sound magic and racer's magic he would BLITZ her.

And finally for attack potency, August has AT LEAST 8 dragon slayer magics in his arsenal (possibly 9 with laxus' lightning), he would just crush eileen if he used these DS magics with HIS Magic power.

August wins, Class dismissed.

 

[MyaHeart35]

It has been stated many times that August is the STRONGEST amongst the 12, Irene has been stated as the strongest WOMAN. Also they have been stated to be pârt of the same tier, but that doesn't mean their equal. August is superior to her.

Now based on abilities, Eileen is a caster type so none of her spells nor enchants would work agains august. Her only chance would be physical attacks with her dragon form.

Now She might have superior hysical strenght in dragon form (even if August's physical abilities are tremendous as he made gildarts ( highest phys power in ishgal) look like a child and tanked his strongest attack boosted with his mechanical arm with minimum damage.

Then speed wise August is way faster than Irene if he combines meteor Cobra's sound magic and racer's magic he would BLITZ her.

And finally for attack potency, August has AT LEAST 8 dragon slayer magics in his arsenal (possibly 9 with laxus' lightning), he would just crush eileen if he used these DS magics with HIS Magic power.

August wins, Class dismissed.

August was only stated to be the strongest spriggan before Irene was introduced. When August was stated to be the strongest spriggan by Makarov Brandish corrected him said "he's not the strongest he is only one of the strongest." There is another who rivals or exceed his power. They have been stated multiple times during the Alvarez to be equal not even factoring Irene Dragon Form

I wouldn't say he is faster than her. August couldn't even react to Acnologia. While Human Irene did. On top of that Irene was basically blitzing enchanced Erza. And Erza was able to blitz Laxus in their fight.
Tbh there is no confirmation August can copy dragon slayer magic. We seen him do a fire spell against Natsu but is never stated or hinted to be fire dragon slayer magic. Since he needs to see a spell to copy it and Natsu hadn't use any attacks against August at that point. Natsu also said he canceled August attack out and I don't think he would be able to if it was fire dragon slayer magic.

 

[FireIce]

Tbh there is no confirmation August can copy dragon slayer magic. We seen him do a fire spell against Natsu but is never stated or hinted to be fire dragon slayer magic. Since he needs to see a spell to copy it and Natsu hadn't use any attacks against August at that point. Natsu also said he canceled August attack out and I don't think he would be able to if it was fire dragon slayer magic.

Actually Melt was shown among the examples of spells August copied to explain how his magic worked when Gildarts figured it out.

Spoiler

 

[sharkai]

Stop comparing Irene to Acnologia and August, they didn't get a one shot. August tanked Gildarts strongest attack and got up with minor injuries and Acnologia was on top of POF Natsu, it was Ishgar's power that beat him.

Aconologia was one shot. the first ds magic he wasnt immune to one shot him, exactly like irene.
august gave up fighting after the first gildart attack that he wasnt immune to. why wouldnt i rank august durablity sub par

Jellal was above Jura in GMG and would have won with Sema.

so you are saying
jura was weaker than jellal and could not counter sema
AND
erza was weaker than dragin irene and could stop dues sema
(Maybe dues means weak )

No dragon has ever received a shot of DS magic like Irene did.

actually @Darklord#10 already proved they did. Aconologia was immune to all magic igneel threw at him, aconologia was also stronger than igneel. yet even aconologia couldnt one shot igneel
basically
Dragon irene >> Irene > Erza
which resulted in ds erza one shotting Dragon irene
AND
Aconologia > igneel
which resulted in an extreme diff battle

all this because pof in fairy tail isnt much, according to you

Are you really comparing Gildarts to Kagura the same girl who got one shot by x791 Erza?

why not
Dragon irene can casually one or two shot Gildarts
Gmg jellal cannot one shot gmg kagura


dragon irene >> Gildarts > erza
Gmg jellal > Kagura >Gajeel/Lyon


so we can predict from here
if erza can destroy Dragon irene dues sema
then
gmg Kagura, hell, even gmg gajeel can stop gmg jellal sema. Jura and audience (of gmg tournament) should have been laughing the moment they saw sema. but you think even jura wasnt gonna stop it (manga does seems to portray that jura was in trouble). why aren't dragon irene dues sema and jellal sema being treated the same way, by you

Dragon Irene is stronger than erza. She's physically stronger than even august. He'd get one shot by a single paw but that doesn't mean Irene isn't vulnerable to one shot in her dragon form.

I will ask you again, why is dragon irene the only dragon in existence weak to dragon slayer magic. she can literaly get one shot by ds magic from mages far below her. yet other dragons wont even get one shot by dragon slayers above them (As you kindly showed aconlogia vs igneel) does mishma also hate irene as much as you do. or maybe pof boost isnt that much only your creation?

Dogramag also got one shot in his dragon form

yet selene didnt, against ignia no less.

why is dragon irene the only known dragon to be one shottable by ds mages far below her

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It has been stated many times that August is the STRONGEST amongst the 12, Irene has been stated as the strongest WOMAN. Also they have been stated to be pârt of the same tier, but that doesn't mean their equal. August is superior to her.

nope

Now based on abilities, Eileen is a caster type so none of her spells nor enchants would work agains august. Her only chance would be physical attacks with her dragon form.

when has august canceled magic of mages at that tier?

Then speed wise August is way faster than Irene if he combines meteor Cobra's sound magic and racer's magic he would BLITZ her.

august couldnt even blitz cana, and when has gildarts been known to be fast?
and when has august shown to keep his copied magic?

And finally for attack potency, August has AT LEAST 8 dragon slayer magics in his arsenal (possibly 9 with laxus' lightning), he would just crush eileen if he used these DS magics with HIS Magic power.

august has never shown to copy ds magic, in the original series, you needed something from a dragon to do so. he has never shown to keep his copied magic, and his mp is equal to human irene mp. all his attacks will be around that level, not above

and why are we assuming august can hit as hard as irene. he is haxy mage. can jacob or nienhart also hit as hard as serena or wahl. can you give august move with feats

August wins, Class dismissed.

and worst teacher award goes to you

Actually Melt was shown among the examples of spells August copied to explain how his magic worked when Gildarts figured it out.

i think it was most likely a mistake. otherwise natsu would have eaten it. it wasnt even describe as fire, it was, i think heat based. and natsu doesnt have 'melt'

 

[Darklord#10]

I will ask you again, why is dragon irene the only dragon in existence weak to dragon slayer magic. she can literaly get one shot by ds magic from mages far below her. yet other dragons wont even get one shot by dragon slayers above them (As you kindly showed aconlogia vs igneel) does mishma also hate irene as much as you do. or maybe pof boost isnt that much only your creation?

If it makes you feel better dogramag also got one shot. Yeah maybe Irene is that weak. I said people who scale to and above erza can one shot Irene. It doesn't matter if I hate or like her or if mashima hates. All that matters is that she's extremely vulnerable to dragon slayer magic. POF doesn't let you skip tiers. Even if POF lets you jump tiers Erza wasn't above gildarts during Alvarez arc at best she was on his level which is still below august and Eileen level

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Aconologia was one shot. the first ds magic he wasnt immune to one shot him, exactly like irene.
august gave up fighting after the first gildart attack that he wasnt immune to. why wouldnt i rank august durablity sub par

He was paralyzed, he couldn't move. Eileen stood there and proceeded to get one shot in her dragon form

 

[sharkai]

He was paralyzed, he couldn't move. Eileen stood there and proceeded to get one shot in her dragon form

so was Eileen. she was so shocked that a human, whose power and magic she understood, could destroy dues sema, and then ds magic enchantment thing. she was as paralyzed as aconologia was

If it makes you feel better dogramag also got one shot.

it has nothing to do with my feelings. you cant scale nerfed dogramag, nor can you scale natsu using suzaku sword (and magic).
but you can scale selene and ignia relative to each other
you can scale igneel and aconlogia relative to each other
you can scale dragon eileen and erza relative to each other.

only eileen here is getting short end of the stick. so i do wonder, is this what mishma believes, or something you (and those who go out of their way to dehype eileen and erza) want to believe.

All that matters is that she's extremely vulnerable to dragon slayer magic.

but she is not extremely vulnerable to dragon slayer magic, this is just your claim, and you hate eileen and erza.
as far as mishma goes, eileen was taken out a mage who overpowered her strongest move and had capability of blasting rot aconologia across town. one of mishma favorites, nakama queen, literally tripping on nakama powers

POF doesn't let you skip tiers.

also your claim. try to understand consequences of your claim. if erza can destroy deus sema, while remaining in her tier then gmg jura can destroy gmg jellal sema while sleeping.

Erza wasn't above gildarts during Alvarez arc at best she was on his level

also your claim. sadly alverzec gildarts have no feats near alverzec erza. tell me gildarts strongest move in that arc, and those moves feats.

grey in ds was getting low diffed by invel. pof base gray was rearranging invel face. alverzec erza who would be equal to alverzec laxus wouldnt get low diffed by gildarts. gray like pof will have erza rearranging gildarts face.

human irene herself was nearly as durable as gildarts was.

 

[Darklord#10]

capability of blasting rot aconologia across town

This doesn't mean anything

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also your claim. try to understand consequences of your claim. if erza can destroy deus sema, while remaining in her tier then gmg jura can destroy gmg jellal sema while sleeping.

After the whole POF mashima still claimed gildarts is still number 1. What does GMG have to do with anything here. Stop making stupid analogies. You are analogy doesn't even make sense

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only eileen here is getting short end of the stick. so i do wonder, is this what mishma believes, or something you (and those who go out of their way to dehype eileen and erza) want to believe.

She's not getting short end of any stick, Irene is vulnerable to dragon slayer magic WTF

 

[sharkai]

This doesn't mean anything

you are correct, mishma specifically wrote it means nothing. (and it has nothing to do with your hatred)

After the whole POF mashima still claimed gildarts is still number 1.

you are correct here as well. and after natsu killed fh zeref and was called dragon king by aconlogia, mishma still claims natsu and gajeel are equal.

What does GMG have to do with anything here. Stop making stupid analogies. You are analogy doesn't even make sense

why doesnt it make sense. can weaker mage destroy powerful mages strongest attack?
can erza block the natsu move which evaporated aldron?
can lyon freeze jura mt fuji?
can gajeel destroy jellal sema?
can zancrow destroy bluenote blackhole?

for all of these you will most likely agree, that weaker mages has no business stopping powerful mages strong attacks. this rule only changes where your most hatred character comes in, thus deus sema (deus in mishma mind means super weak, apparently) can be stopped by far weaker mages. meanwhile non deus sema would put jura (someone around jellal level) in trouble.

my analogue is perfect, the problem is somewhere in your mental capability
if gmg jellal is around gmg jura
and jellal sema was gonna be push the fight to extreme diff
than
eileen and august are around each other
and august himself will have trouble handling deus sema (and this is how mishma showed what pof can do, how to scale that last erza pof move)

She's not getting short end of any stick, Irene is vulnerable to dragon slayer magic WTF

saying the same nonsense, you created, again and again doesnt make it true. and, yes, aconlogia is weak to ds magic.


and try to understand who you are. you thought suzaku will one shot dragon eileen. one arc after that we have brandish, not even going all out, one shot three of the new villians. and serena, (who is basically a historia type thing, so no improvement there other than alchemey magic thingy) is gonna fight jellal. and jellal is normally compared to like of erza and laxus.
this pretty much proves, i think with 80% accuracy (we will get more accurate result after jellal fight), that suzaku, aint doing shit to someone alot stronger than serena.

this is the prediction your hatred leads you to produce.
we can, i guess, put irene being vulnerable to dragon slayer magic "WTF" in the same catogary as your other prediction regarding suzaku and eileen. basically your fap material nothing else

 

[Darklord#10]

you are correct here as well. and after natsu killed fh zeref and was called dragon king by aconlogia, mishma still claims natsu and gajeel are equal.

Those are outliers. Erza's feat against Eileen isn't an outlier. Both FH zeref and acnologia are stronger than Eileen and august

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but she is not extremely vulnerable to dragon slayer magic, this is just your claim, and you hate eileen and erza.
as far as mishma goes, eileen was taken out a mage who overpowered her strongest move and had capability of blasting rot aconologia across town. one of mishma favorites, nakama queen, literally tripping on nakama powers

How do you know what mashima is thinking? What we saw is Irene getting one shot by a dragon slayer magic from a mage weaker than her. POF doesn't make you jump tiers

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so was Eileen. she was so shocked that a human, whose power and magic she understood, could destroy dues sema, and then ds magic enchantment thing. she was as paralyzed as aconologia was

Lmao Eileen wasn't paralyzed she just stood there and she got one shot

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this is the prediction your hatred leads you to produce.
we can, i guess, put irene being vulnerable to dragon slayer magic "WTF" in the same catogary as your other prediction regarding suzaku and eileen. basically your fap material nothing else

Tell me what did I predict? I don't even predict anything, I stay away from predicting and brandish taking out this new villains doesn't mean anything. They'll still come back as long as Duke is around

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saying the same nonsense, you created, again and again doesnt make it true. and, yes, aconlogia is weak to ds magic.

It's not nonsense it's facts, she got one shot from her dragon form that is what happened and stop saying that nonsense of erza blasting acnologia from the sky

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my analogue is perfect, the problem is somewhere in your mental capability

Your analogy is stupid because what does GMG have to do with this discussion

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and august himself will have trouble handling deus sema (and this is how mishma showed what pof can do, how to scale that last erza pof move)

Erza with almost all her bones broken stopped it but august won't? Stop talking nonsense everything you've been saying is just nonsense even your stupid analogy doesn't even make sense

 

[sharkai]

Those are outliers. Erza's feat against Eileen isn't an outlier. Both FH zeref and acnologia are stronger than Eileen and august

you know nothing. stop categorizing things and believing them to be true

How do you know what mashima is thinking? What we saw is Irene getting one shot by a dragon slayer magic from a mage weaker than her.

so did aconlogia.

POF doesn't make you jump tiers

stop making sh!t out of your a$$

It's not nonsense it's facts, she got one shot from her dragon form that is what happened and stop saying that nonsense of erza blasting acnologia from the sky

yes, after her sema was overpowered. in nakama theme manga, by one of mishma favorite nakama queen

and yes its true, rot aconologia got blasted across the sky by the same mage. thank god erza wasnt ds then, otherwise aconlogia might have been one shot as well, since we know he is super weak to it

Your analogy is stupid because what does GMG have to do with this discussion

so each arc is its own manga. we can learn nothing from non current arcs?

Erza with almost all her bones broken stopped it but august won't? Stop talking nonsense everything you've been saying is just nonsense even your stupid analogy doesn't even make sense

as i said, problem is on your side. exhausted 7 ds, all with less mp than august eileen, one shot aconologia. exhausted natsu (who is equal to gajeel) killed fh zeref. so yes, broken bone erza doing something august cant, isnt unbelievable.
mishma already has shown us that jura might not be able to handle jellal sema, why the fuk would august have easier time?

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Tell me what did I predict? I don't even predict anything, I stay away from predicting and brandish taking out this new villains doesn't mean anything. They'll still come back as long as Duke is around

you predicted that springgan has been been power crept, and i think, eileen will lose to suzaku. i think its is in some vs threads

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Lmao Eileen wasn't paralyzed she just stood there and she got one shot

standing there, not doing something is pretty much same, with same effects

 

[Darklord#10]

you predicted that springgan has been been power crept, and i think, eileen will lose to suzaku. i think its is in some vs threads

Most spriggans lose to suzaku and his fellow black dragon slayer knight

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standing there, not doing something is pretty much same, with same effects

Acnologia was paralyzed while Eileen wasn't

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stop making sh!t out of your a$$

Only natsu when using POF allows him to jump tiers. You're trying to outlier Erza's feats against Eileen to be an outlier when Eileen was still the stronger one

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you predicted that springgan has been been power crept, and i think, eileen will lose to suzaku. i think its is in some vs threads

What exactly did brandish do in the new chapter? She didn't take out god Serena, Signora sisters or the duke. Those guys are still going to be around as long as Duke is still alive. So what exactly did she do?

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yes, after her sema was overpowered. in nakama theme manga, by one of mishma favorite nakama queen

and yes its true, rot aconologia got blasted across the sky by the same mage. thank god erza wasnt ds then, otherwise aconlogia might have been one shot as well, since we know he is super weak to it

This is so stupid and pathetic

 

[sharkai]

Most spriggans lose to suzaku and his fellow black dragon slayer knight

then why is serena (a springgan with no special mention yet) fighting one of the strongest in the very next arc.

Acnologia was paralyzed while Eileen wasn't

aconlogia nor eileen blocked or braced for the attack. same thing

Only natsu when using POF allows him to jump tiers. You're trying to outlier Erza's feats against Eileen to be an outlier when Eileen was still the stronger one

ok
show statement in manga saying only natsu is allowed to jump tiers with pof. also show gmg jura laughing his head off at jellal sema

What exactly did brandish do in the new chapter? She didn't take out god Serena, Signora sisters or the duke. Those guys are still going to be around as long as Duke is still alive. So what exactly did she do?

she took out three opponents. one of gray and one of lucy, in one hit. serena is also a springgan, relative to brandish powers
she did basically what laxus or jellal couldnt do in alverzec arc, take out wahl and nienhart of the group, in one hit.

This is so stupid and pathetic

not really. it shows that you and mishma definitely arent thinking along the same path. you think anything erza and eileen related is bad, and you ranks feat or opponents below what mishma ranks them.
while you think eileen is some weak ass dragon who can get one shot nilly willy, mishma had eileen face two god dragons, in her nerfed forms, and both could do nothing against her magic. she shocked both of them with her abilities and they were both impressed with her powers.

you: eileen can get one shot by alverzec arc characters, then obviously there is a power creep. so eileen is now one of the weakest ds out there
what mishma most likly think: dragon eileen, most likely a high tier dragon, above gmg dragons and most likely above parent dragons (not name igneel) and animus as well.

 

[Darklord#10]

ok
show statement in manga saying only natsu is allowed to jump tiers with pof. also show gmg jura laughing his head off at jellal sema

Main character privileges

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animus as well.

Animus didn't get one shot by half dragon natsu there's definitely a case for him to be stronger than Irene

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what mishma most likly think: dragon eileen, most likely a high tier dragon, above gmg dragons and most likely above parent dragons (not name igneel) and animus as well.

You keep saying that I'm the one predicting what mashima is thinking. If we should go by how mashima is thinking then this thread shouldn't even exist so stop yapping. You're the one predicting what mashima is thinking not me, I don't know what mashima is thinking so I can't be predicting what I don't know. Why include igneel add him to now. Nonsense

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aconlogia nor eileen blocked or braced for the attack. same thing

Acnologia's circumstances and Irene circumstances is different. Acnologia was trapped in fairy sphere, while Irene wasn't trapped she could have dodged of she wanted to, nobody was holding her she wasn't paralyzed.

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she took out three opponents. one of gray and one of lucy, in one hit. serena is also a springgan, relative to brandish powers
she did basically what laxus or jellal couldnt do in alverzec arc, take out wahl and nienhart of the group, in one hit.

You know Levy one shot sai right? Brandish literally didn't do anything in this chapter. Gray shot fire and brandish punched them. Are implying that suzaku would lose to brandish?

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then why is serena (a springgan with no special mention yet) fighting one of the strongest in the very next arc.

Are you even reading this manga? WTF? Serena is not a spriggan anymore he's a gold owl member and why would Serena remain in the same level of strength as his previous self.

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@sharkai you just have an issue with people who put august above Irene you can check the polls I voted tie I've given my answer to this question twice I don't understand what your issue is and trying to claim that brandish is as strong as god Serena is laughable brandish isn't even bdsk level t

 

[FeatherineAugustusAurora]

August stomps.

Irene was only described as the strongest female Spriggan.

August was described as the strongest Spriggan.

Irene is overrated imo.

Irene was definitely described as August's equal.

And please provide an explanation of how and why August stomp? Because I don't see him beating Dragon Irene without dragon slaying magic which he never used in the series but he potentially can. However, we go by on-screen feats so Dragon Irene stomps August and August mid-diffs human Irene.

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....That's called being wise....

Irene would be oneshotted by Acno faster than August would.

Acno just gave her a chance, but unlike Irene, August doesn't need that pity because he knows when to mess around and when not to.

More importantly, August knows who to mess around with and who not to.

Irene was prepared in that battle so she wasn't being stupid for taking on Acnologia either and Acno was impressed with her abilities.

August did not expect Acnologia to appear and was caught off-guard.

 

[sharkai]

Main character privileges

and That is Your opnion

Animus didn't get one shot by half dragon natsu there's definitely a case for him to be stronger than Irene

not really. brandish presence made natsu igneel power react.

You keep saying that I'm the one predicting what mashima is thinking. If we should go by how mashima is thinking then this thread shouldn't even exist so stop yapping. You're the one predicting what mashima is thinking not me, I don't know what mashima is thinking so I can't be predicting what I don't know. Why include igneel add him to now. Nonsense

because you are making predictions. when you say suzaku can do this or that, which he hasnt done. or even when you say august can stop deus sema, that is prediction.
i am making it based on past things, and you are doing it, based on your wishes

Acnologia's circumstances and Irene circumstances is different. Acnologia was trapped in fairy sphere, while Irene wasn't trapped she could have dodged of she wanted to, nobody was holding her she wasn't paralyzed.

she was paralyzed by shock. are you claiming she couldnt react that erza strike or something

You know Levy one shot sai right? Brandish literally didn't do anything in this chapter. Gray shot fire and brandish punched them. Are implying that suzaku would lose to brandish?

i am saying suzaku will not think brandish as fodder, and might not beat giga brandish at all

Are you even reading this manga? WTF? Serena is not a spriggan anymore he's a gold owl member and why would Serena remain in the same level of strength as his previous self.

because he is not alive. he is like historia, maybe full powered. but that is all as far as we know. so you are saying he improved? did brandish also improve? do you reckon she can defeat acaonologia now?

@sharkai you just have an issue with people who put august above Irene you can check the polls I voted tie I've given my answer to this question twice I don't understand what your issue is and trying to claim that brandish is as strong as god Serena is laughable brandish isn't even bdsk level t

why is it laughable. what can serena do against giga brandish. he doesnt even have enough aoe to cover her toe.

no, i am just showing you most of your things are based on your feeling which have foundation in your hates and likes