Fantasy August vs Irene

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Wow, people really underestimate OS so much, even though by Irene's own words they were the strongest group in the north as she stated they may prove to be tad troublesome.

they didn't show any new feats but they have hype on their side.
Eileen considered them so strong that she sent Juliet and Hyne to deal with them.
OS havent been powerful since their own arc, individually i'd say everyone except maybe Midnight, is below Lucy/Wendy tier. Cobra is the weakest Dragon Slayer lol
 

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Wow, people really underestimate OS so much, even though by Irene's own words they were the strongest group in the north as she stated they may prove to be tad troublesome.

they didn't show any new feats but they have hype on their side.
They were so troublesome she sent Juliet and Heine to finish them lol. She could've enchanted the army in the North and slaughtered everyone. OS were far from the strongest. OS were worse than the GOI. Their hype died when they were curbed to the side with zero new feats.

If you guys want to downplay Irene so much why don't we use August crud feats as well? He got stabbed by a dagger and blitzed by Acno. Irene low diffs August bcs she blitzes as she can keep up with Acno and August can't.

A fight between these two is no less than an extreme diff. The winner would be a toss up that's how matched they are.

Seriously you guys act like hurting is a oneshot these days. Irene was jobbing she could've ended this fight long ago.
 

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If you guys want to downplay Irene so much why don't we use August crud feats as well? He got stabbed by a dagger and blitzed by Acno. Irene low diffs August bcs she blitzes as she can keep up with Acno and August can't.
Getting blindsided by an ally isn't a negative feat in any shape or form, it could happen to anyone. August had no intentions of fighting against Acnologia so Acnologia did not blitz him in a conventional fight. The fact that Jellal couldn't do shit to him (a certified speedster) despite having allies which could split his attention as well as the fact that August effortlessly reacted to and blitzed Racer proves (something only meteor Jellal has done before) proves that August is one of the fastest characters in the series. So far August has had Irene beat in pretty much every single way in terms of combat, something I more or less anticipated given that Irenes magic (enchantments) is very much support based magic (if Wendy is any indication). Irene is literally just Wendy on steroids, August is Jellal on steroids. There is a difference here.
 

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Getting blindsided by an ally isn't a negative feat in any shape or form, it could happen to anyone. August had no intentions of fighting against Acnologia so Acnologia did not blitz him in a conventional fight. The fact that Jellal couldn't do shit to him (a certified speedster) despite having allies which could split his attention as well as the fact that August effortlessly reacted to and blitzed Racer proves (something only meteor Jellal has done before) proves that August is one of the fastest characters in the series. So far August has had Irene beat in pretty much every single way in terms of combat, something I more or less anticipated given that Irenes magic (enchantments) is very much support based magic (if Wendy is any indication). Irene is literally just Wendy on steroids, August is Jellal on steroids. There is a difference here.
Blindside or not he got hit and stabbed by a dagger and was hurt. August couldn't even react to Acno and had a peed pants look on his face. Acno didn't even bother to take a name. Reacting Racer is a feat comparable to reacting to Acno? What? Reacting to Racer is an easy feat, BoS Erza could do that lol. Blitzed by only meteor. Lol, Sawyer only fought Jellal and pre-1st-ts characters. Wendy could blitz Racer let alone Natsu. Irene has beaten August in feats by a landslide. U1 and enchanting a million fodder to the point that 5 can overpower Erza is greater than any feat August has produced. Irene isn't just support, she took on Acno in head to head combat something August was afraid to do. People thinking this fight ends in anything less than an extreme diff is funny.
 

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Blindside or not he got hit and stabbed by a dagger and was hurt. August couldn't even react to Acno and had a peed pants look on his face. Acno didn't even bother to take a name. Reacting Racer is a feat comparable to reacting to Acno? What? Reacting to Racer is an easy feat, BoS Erza could do that lol. Blitzed by only meteor. Lol, Sawyer only fought Jellal and pre-1st-ts characters. Wendy could blitz Racer let alone Natsu. Irene has beaten August in feats by a landslide. U1 and enchanting a million fodder to the point that 5 can overpower Erza is greater than any feat August has produced. Irene isn't just support, she took on Acno in head to head combat something August was afraid to do. People thinking this fight ends in anything less than an extreme diff is funny.
Overall i agree with you dude, and that's an opinion i was sharing up til the latest chapter. August and Irene are portrayed to be equal, and whoever wins the fight needs an extreme diff. That's what we can assume from the manga, before chapter 516.

The problem is that chapter. Before that, Irene's hype was intact: Universe One, the enchantment of the berserkers, the showing versus Acno. She was truly a beast, and it is even revealed that she created DS magic, fought dragons, and eventually dragonized. Pretty OP.
But in chapter 516 she got to face 2 FT members, and boom. All the hype vanished, just like every other SPriggan so far bar August. Wendy and Erza aren't even top tier, and at the end of the chapter it seemed possible for them to actually beat Irene. Which was truly unconceivable before that.

Meanwhile August's hype is at an all time high since he casually stomped Jellal + OS. I think Irene would do the same, but at the same time she was having a hard time against Wendy+Erza, which are inferior to Jellal+OS.
The fireball/explosion/spell that Irene used on Acno (and that made him MOVE) was casually dodged by Erza. Irene's attack when she was all angry about "that's not fair!!!!!" had close to no effect on Wendy and Erza... Clearly i would expect better from someone who faced Acno, but that's how it is.

This is FT so eventually August will face some FT members and we might see him having trouble and being defeated. But right now he seems to be on a league of his own. Kind of like Irene was before latest chapter. Unfortunately for Irene, we've now seen her having trouble (against non top tier mages, just like Larcade) whereas August's hype hasn't diminished yet. That's unfair but for now, after chapter 516, I'd give August the win over Irene with high diff at best.
 

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Overall i agree with you dude, and that's an opinion i was sharing up til the latest chapter. August and Irene are portrayed to be equal, and whoever wins the fight needs an extreme diff. That's what we can assume from the manga, before chapter 516.

The problem is that chapter. Before that, Irene's hype was intact: Universe One, the enchantment of the berserkers, the showing versus Acno. She was truly a beast, and it is even revealed that she created DS magic, fought dragons, and eventually dragonized. Pretty OP.
But in chapter 516 she got to face 2 FT members, and boom. All the hype vanished, just like every other SPriggan so far bar August. Wendy and Erza aren't even top tier, and at the end of the chapter it seemed possible for them to actually beat Irene. Which was truly unconceivable before that.

Meanwhile August's hype is at an all time high since he casually stomped Jellal + OS. I think Irene would do the same, but at the same time she was having a hard time against Wendy+Erza, which are inferior to Jellal+OS.
The fireball/explosion/spell that Irene used on Acno (and that made him MOVE) was casually dodged by Erza. Irene's attack when she was all angry about "that's not fair!!!!!" had close to no effect on Wendy and Erza... Clearly i would expect better from someone who faced Acno, but that's how it is.

This is FT so eventually August will face some FT members and we might see him having trouble and being defeated. But right now he seems to be on a league of his own. Kind of like Irene was before latest chapter. Unfortunately for Irene, we've now seen her having trouble (against non top tier mages, just like Larcade) whereas August's hype hasn't diminished yet. That's unfair but for now, after chapter 516, I'd give August the win over Irene with high diff at best.
She's not taking them seriously tho. Her actual serious self is the one who faced off against Acno as she was actually trying then. However now she just standing there and taking their attacks without even defending herself. If she was trying to kill them then she would of just turn them into mice and squashed them but she hasn't because she could care less.

I wouldn't say Jellal + OS is stronger than Wendy + Erza as Wendy is doubling to tripling Erza's power. In the last chapter it was already stated that Wendy was enhancing Erza and in this chapter Wendy double onto the previous enhancement. In the August vs Jellal fight, August wasn't just standing there taking there attacks either he was efficiently take them out with lethal force. Irene however just gave a backstory to see if she'd still had any sentimental feelings for Erza left. Irene is holding back a ton. And we have to remember she hasn't even used her Dragon Form either, she's just been using her human physique.

I think people should wait before calling this a low or a mid diff fight when it's been told again and again that they are on an equal level. Using low end feats of Irene and disregarding everything she's done beforehand is just downplay.
 
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Blindside or not he got hit and stabbed by a dagger and was hurt. August couldn't even react to Acno and had a peed pants look on his face. Acno didn't even bother to take a name. Reacting Racer is a feat comparable to reacting to Acno? What? Reacting to Racer is an easy feat, BoS Erza could do that lol. Blitzed by only meteor. Lol, Sawyer only fought Jellal and pre-1st-ts characters. Wendy could blitz Racer let alone Natsu. Irene has beaten August in feats by a landslide. U1 and enchanting a million fodder to the point that 5 can overpower Erza is greater than any feat August has produced. Irene isn't just support, she took on Acno in head to head combat something August was afraid to do. People thinking this fight ends in anything less than an extreme diff is funny.
Ummm no, you cannot just act like being blindsided did not have a say in the fact that August got stabbed, it most certainly did. Even Acnologia, if he had absolutely no idea that he was getting attacked, would get stabbed. Cana one-shotted a blindsided Brandish with a karate chop. August was not battle ready for Acnologia, Irene was, hence why he did not even bother to dodge. Acno did not bother to take a name because August did not have the luxury of an automatic BFR if shit hit the fan and thus never bothered to fight Acno to begin with. Wendy gets blitzed by Racer, Natsu could probably dodge him but he wouldn't have the luxury of blitzing (both characters defeat Racer either way, but thats besides the point). Both Universe One and enchanting thousands of soldiers aren't battle oriented feats, you are only proving my point.

Irene and August unquestionably have similar levels of MP, however August puts that MPs use into combat whilst Irene focuses on support type of shit. Half of the magic Irene has used up until this point hasn't been combat oriented and the shit that was has done no damage to Acnologia, been tanked by Erza and blocked by Wendy, the latter two points negatively impacting her track record. At this point its pretty much a fact that Irenes impressiveness comes from her support/utility type magic which make her more credible of an ally/enemy in a war but far less competent an ally/enemy in confrontational combat then August. In that sense they are indeed at the same level as Brandish suggests, August is simply the superior fighter. You seriously cannot expect people to think the fight ends in an extreme-diff after she did far worse then August against weaker opponents. The idea that Irene "wasn't trying" doesn't work in your favour either because I could just as easily claim August wasn't trying himself, and in fact its much more likely in the latters case since he clearly wasn't pushed to try (received no damage). Unless August ends up performing worse then Irene against a weaker combo then Wendy and Erza (something which is extremely unlikely at this point), you have no ground to claim its an extreme-diff fight, especially you who puts all bets on feats and completely disregards hype.
 
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August rolled over Jellal+CS like Goku rolled over the Ginyu Force.

Irene cannot beat that. Jellal is on the level of Laxus who stomps Erza and Wendy who Irene couldn't beat while she was enraged.

I don't know much about math but this isn't hard to grasp.
 

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August rolled over Jellal+CS like Goku rolled over the Ginyu Force.

Irene cannot beat that. Jellal is on the level of Laxus who stomps Erza and Wendy who Irene couldn't beat while she was enraged.

I don't know much about math but this isn't hard to grasp.
Jellal got KOed by her man B, Neinhart in oneshot.... She wasn't serious as she wanted Wendy's body.

Laxus is a lot stronger than Jellal to. Jellal doesn't even have better feats than Erza...
Ummm no, you cannot just act like being blindsided did not have a say in the fact that August got stabbed, it most certainly did. Even Acnologia, if he had absolutely no idea that he was getting attacked, would get stabbed. Cana one-shotted a blindsided Brandish with a karate chop. August was not battle ready for Acnologia, Irene was, hence why he did not even bother to dodge. Acno did not bother to take a name because August did not have the luxury of an automatic BFR if shit hit the fan and thus never bothered to fight Acno to begin with. Wendy gets blitzed by Racer, Natsu could probably dodge him but he wouldn't have the luxury of blitzing (both characters defeat Racer either way, but thats besides the point). Both Universe One and enchanting thousands of soldiers aren't battle oriented feats, you are only proving my point.

Irene and August unquestionably have similar levels of MP, however August puts that MPs use into combat whilst Irene focuses on support type of shit. Half of the magic Irene has used up until this point hasn't been combat oriented and the shit that was has done no damage to Acnologia, been tanked by Erza and blocked by Wendy, the latter two points negatively impacting her track record. At this point its pretty much a fact that Irenes impressiveness comes from her support/utility type magic which make her more credible of an ally/enemy in a war but far less competent an ally/enemy in confrontational combat then August. In that sense they are indeed at the same level as Brandish suggests, August is simply the superior fighter. You seriously cannot expect people to think the fight ends in an extreme-diff after she did far worse then August against weaker opponents. The idea that Irene "wasn't trying" doesn't work in your favour either because I could just as easily claim August wasn't trying himself, and in fact its much more likely in the latters case since he clearly wasn't pushed to try (received no damage). Unless August ends up performing worse then Irene against a weaker combo then Wendy and Erza (something which is extremely unlikely at this point), you have no ground to claim its an extreme-diff fight, especially you who puts all bets on feats and completely disregards hype.
Acno would no sell that dagger blindsided or not. You think a dagger is stronger than Igneel's roar?!! Irene took a sword to the head by two time enchanted Erza to the head while completely defenseless.

Difference between Brandish and August was that Brandish was a gag feat, August wasn't.

August was scared of Acno. BFR or not Irene impressed Acno long before U1 while he didn't spare August a glance. If August was so battle oriented why didn't he do something on the caliber of U1 or intercepted Acno's blitz instead of getting blitzed past and scared?

Wendy no diffs Racer lol. Natsu probably dodges? You're kidding? Can you show one feat that puts him on Wendy's caliber in speed let alone Natsu's bcs last I checked Racer and Cobra together couldn't even land solid contact on BoS Erza.

Those feats are still better than August attacks. August best move to date Melt was tanked by Mest and Happy. Guess Melt just sucks?!!

We'll wait and see but just going off her low end feats and then use August high end feats to decide a battle is bad. You guys are also dissing Acno since Acno was pushed back and impressed by Irene yet you guys think August low diffs her and she's going all out against Erza and Wendy.
 

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Jellal got KOed by her man B, Neinhart in oneshot.... She wasn't serious as she wanted Wendy's body.

Laxus is a lot stronger than Jellal to. Jellal doesn't even have better feats than Erza...

Acno would no sell that dagger blindsided or not. You think a dagger is stronger than Igneel's roar?!! Irene took a sword to the head by two time enchanted Erza to the head while completely defenseless.

Difference between Brandish and August was that Brandish was a gag feat, August wasn't.

August was scared of Acno. BFR or not Irene impressed Acno long before U1 while he didn't spare August a glance. If August was so battle oriented why didn't he do something on the caliber of U1 or intercepted Acno's blitz instead of getting blitzed past and scared?

Wendy no diffs Racer lol. Natsu probably dodges? You're kidding? Can you show one feat that puts him on Wendy's caliber in speed let alone Natsu's bcs last I checked Racer and Cobra together couldn't even land solid contact on BoS Erza.

Those feats are still better than August attacks. August best move to date Melt was tanked by Mest and Happy. Guess Melt just sucks?!!

We'll wait and see but just going off her low end feats and then use August high end feats to decide a battle is bad. You guys are also dissing Acno since Acno was pushed back and impressed by Irene yet you guys think August low diffs her and she's going all out against Erza and Wendy.
Not wanting to get involved in the argument but just want to point out that Acnologia was just entertaining himself when 'fighting' with Irene, he even said so himself a chapter before the fight, whereas when he appeared where Serena and the Gods of Ishgar fought, he was serious about killing a dragon aka Serena so August getting blitzed isn't really a negative feat IMO.
 

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Not wanting to get involved in the argument but just want to point out that Acnologia was just entertaining himself when 'fighting' with Irene, he even said so himself a chapter before the fight, whereas when he appeared where Serena and the Gods of Ishgar fought, he was serious about killing a dragon aka Serena so August getting blitzed isn't really a negative feat IMO.
Acno is never serious that's the thing. Zeref already stated he has never been pushed to going that level bcs he's too strong. He didn't even talk to GS which shows he didn't acknowledge GS power. Acno talking to Irene shows he was actually held more respect for Irene than GS, which already shows he took her more as an adversary than GS. Irene was getting the way of Acno's objective so why would he take her lighter than GS? Also Acno's arm swing he did Irene was a lot stronger than the one he did on GS.
 

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I might have to change my stance to mid-high diff thanks to some posts here.

Still, less than mid is a stretch though. You can't deny the obvious PiS happening in Irene's battle. Place those PiS odds in front of August and just guess what happens...
 

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Acno is never serious that's the thing. Zeref already stated he has never been pushed to going that level bcs he's too strong. He didn't even talk to GS which shows he didn't acknowledge GS power. Acno talking to Irene shows he was actually held more respect for Irene than GS, which already shows he took her more as an adversary than GS. Irene was getting the way of Acno's objective so why would he take her lighter than GS? Also Acno's arm swing he did Irene was a lot stronger than the one he did on GS.
Acnologia was no serious against God Serena???? so why God Serena doesent even have chance to show his powers to Acnologia??? if Acnologia wants entertaiment then he should have let God Serena to attack him with his strongest attacks....
 

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Acno is never serious that's the thing. Zeref already stated he has never been pushed to going that level bcs he's too strong. He didn't even talk to GS which shows he didn't acknowledge GS power. Acno talking to Irene shows he was actually held more respect for Irene than GS, which already shows he took her more as an adversary than GS. Irene was getting the way of Acno's objective so why would he take her lighter than GS? Also Acno's arm swing he did Irene was a lot stronger than the one he did on GS.
LOOL. Acno was serious against Igneel and he's serious when it came to his objective of killing the DS. Being serious =/=Using all of his power. Acno was toying with Irene the same can't be for Serena, the way he acted in both fights itself should speak volumes.
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Yes she just needs to undo what Zeref did, if she can dragonise, she beats August without doubt.
She is Dragonized, Zeref implies that she still not human afterwards so she shouldn't get a massive power boost.
 

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LOOL. Acno was serious against Igneel and he's serious when it came to his objective of killing the DS. Being serious =/=Using all of his power. Acno was toying with Irene the same can't be for Serena, the way he acted in both fights itself should speak volumes.
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She is Dragonized, Zeref implies that she still not human afterwards so she shouldn't get a massive power boost.
She may not have a huge power boost MP speaking, but her body will become much stronger
•More defense, August as no dragon slayer wil have a hard time against it
•She can fly etc.
•If she take dragon form she will access the spells of dragon again, roars etc. (She may have access to it but she chooses not to use them, if she takes dragon form it means she is not Afraid of using them cuz Acnologia)

So Irene in dragon form >> human form battle speaking
 
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She may not have a huge power boost MP speaking, but her body will become much stronger
•More defense, August as no dragon slayer wil have a hard time against it
•She can fly etc.
•If she take dragon form she will access the spells of dragon again, roars etc. (She may have access to it but she chooses not to use them, if she takes dragon form it means she is not Afraid of using them cuz Acnologia)

So Irene in dragon form >> human form battle speaking
-She can levitate/fly now
-Her roar didn't look impressive at all

The only thing she gains is more defense.
 

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I would say my boy August mid diffs her 2 weeks ago, maybe even high diff,but after seeing the performance against Erza and Wendy ? She gets CS'ed.
She got hurt by Erza,someone who is lower than Ajeel,lol. I don't doubt 2 mid tier spriggans can beat her or at least give her a good fight.

If people try to mention "Oh,she faced Acno,August shit himself on seeing Acno" , let me ask you this:
What did Irene exactly do against Acno ? Yeah,nothing.
The fight was like this :
Irene shots fireball.
Acno likes the fireball.
Acno raises hand,then drops a nuke.
Irene dodges nuke.
Irene uses Universe One.

Now,in what part is that a feat ? August didn't interfere with Acno,OF COURSE HE DIDN'T .He is not gonna suicide.If Irene didn't have U1,she would do her best to avoid Acnologia.
I am gonna make a thread soon with Irene in it,wanna see people's reactions to it.
 

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Only advantage Dragon form would have is durability imo, but who knows if August has spells that can overcome it. Plus theres that stuff he said about God Serena being with him that has still yet to be explained, though maybe he just meant at heart?
 

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Acno would no sell that dagger blindsided or not. You think a dagger is stronger than Igneel's roar?!! Irene took a sword to the head by two time enchanted Erza to the head while completely defenseless.
No he wouldn't. I am talking about human Acnologia. Dragons have hardened skin which make daggers much less effective then they would be against regular human skin. Irene was battle ready.

Difference between Brandish and August was that Brandish was a gag feat, August wasn't.
Both feats were used to progress the plot and are valid, gag or not, if you don't expect to be stabbed you are getting stabbed.

August was scared of Acno. BFR or not Irene impressed Acno long before U1 while he didn't spare August a glance. If August was so battle oriented why didn't he do something on the caliber of U1 or intercepted Acno's blitz instead of getting blitzed past and scared?
Yeah, and Irene would be as well if she had no way of avoiding a prolonged fight with Acnologia. Plus, Irene is far more conceited. I think I made it clear that August was NOT battle oriented, he had absolutely no intention of confronting Acno. And as I've said before, Universe One might as well be the most impressive spell in the verse from a technical stand point, that doesn't change the fact that its no more combat oriented/deadly then Arlocks barriers and thus you really get nowhere by trying to use it to justify Irene being close to August in combat. Why would August intercept Acnologias blitz when he does not want to make an enemy of Acnologia with no way of running away? Not to mention he had Jacob (another comrade) to worry about. You seem continuously overlook the fact that Irene had a way of running away, August did not. Stop using the fact that August did not fight Acnologia as an argument.

Wendy no diffs Racer lol. Natsu probably dodges? You're kidding? Can you show one feat that puts him on Wendy's caliber in speed let alone Natsu's bcs last I checked Racer and Cobra together couldn't even land solid contact on BoS Erza.
Racer slows down perception of him, Erza wasn't looking at Racer, he attacked her normally. Racer was rofl blitzing Gray back in the OS arc (the hardest blitzing we have seen in the series), naturally he wouldn't have improved as much as Gray to the point that he would be capable of doing the same thing (due to different improvement rates and jail time) but he would have still improved after the time-skip. Racer rofl blitzes Pre-Ts Wendy and GMG Wendy all the same. DF gives Wendy the edge if we go with bare minimum estimates on improvement rates (i.e. low improvement) but DF Wendy is also one of the faster characters in the series. Base Wendy still gets blitzed. Natsu is probably around as fast as DF Wendy, maybe a little slower so he is on the same boat.

Those feats are still better than August attacks. August best move to date Melt was tanked by Mest and Happy. Guess Melt just sucks?!!
Nope. Melt was not tanked by anyone, Natsu offsetted the attack just like he did when Tempesta fired a large AoE on Gajeel and Juvia, even then he was only capable of offsetting most of it, and not all which speaks volumes of its power. He also decimated Jellal and the crew with a simple perfected refractor and you could bet that that was just a random (i.e. casual) spell that he decided to throw out due to Midnight having it. The same cannot be said for Irenes explosions used on Erza after telling her she's going to tear her to pieces. The perfected refractor is far more impressive then anything Irene has used offensively and the barrier he used to completely negate Laxuses spriggan KO'ing spell is far more impressive then anything Irene has shown defensively. August also has more versatility (obviously) and greater physical traits (speed, endurance, strength) aside from durability due to lack of feats in that department.

We'll wait and see but just going off her low end feats and then use August high end feats to decide a battle is bad. You guys are also dissing Acno since Acno was pushed back and impressed by Irene yet you guys think August low diffs her and she's going all out against Erza and Wendy.
Her "high end" feats are Universe One and enchanting other characters, both are coincidentally not combat oriented and now that she entered Wendy's body its unlikely that we will see anything more impressive then what she has already shown. If anything we are comparing Irenes high end combat oriented feats with Augusts low end ones since unlike Irene, August has yet to have his buttons pushed (i.e. get a real fight), him steam rolling CS was casual.

Still, less than mid is a stretch though. You can't deny the obvious PiS happening in Irene's battle. Place those PiS odds in front of August and just guess what happens...
I actually do think PiS will happen with August, otherwise even a combo of Jellal/Laxus/Gildarts wouldn't beat him given just how effortlessly he defeated Jellal and the OS (I mean, he literally curbstomped them, even adding two more Jellal level characters shouldn't push it from a loosing curbstomp to a win). But thats the thing, even with PiS in his way it will likely take a combo of Ishgars top-tiers like Gildarts/Jellall/Laxus to defeat him, maybe even more, the same cannot be said for Irene. I could be wrong and Lucy ends up solo'ing but for now Irene isn't anymore impressive then Larcade in direct combat.
 

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Eileen considered them so strong that she sent Juliet and Hyne to deal with them.
OS havent been powerful since their own arc, individually i'd say everyone except maybe Midnight, is below Lucy/Wendy tier. Cobra is the weakest Dragon Slayer lol
she didn't send Juliet and Hyne to deal with OS, she sent them to help in the front lines.
hell, those two fodders even thought bradman and rakheild were enought to handle the north.
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why people keep undertimating CS just because they got fodderized by august? the same guy who puts brandish to sleep without even moving an inch?
 
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