I said it might as well be infinite, not that its actually infinite LOL
Nope, historia being weaker then the originals is not a drawback of Historia but a drawback of Neinharts MP. Because he was summoning 3 Spriggan he obviously did not have enough MP make every single one at full power (that would require x3 MP of a spriggan, which only Irene and August have). However, at the harbour everyone he summoned WAS at full power, if not outright stronger.
Yes she did. If you want to get into semantics then what she said exactly is that no other mage can stand up to August, which is basically the same thing. It in no shape or form implies that she can actually defeat him, it just means that she is the only one who doesn't get outright curbstomped.
Neinhart copies DS magic. Its literally his magic to take someone from someones memories and paste their personality/powers onto a magic body he creates. So yeah, if he can copy/paste DS magic then I see no reason why August or even Rufus wouldn't be able to do the same with their magic.
No Neinhart made GS from his Memory he's not copying anything. Historia's are like Edo Tensei w/o the reanimated bodies. The user isn't copying anything he's technically bring them back to life by using your memory. Again you need either to be enchanted by a Dragon or have a lacrima implanted in you in order to use DS magic. If August could use DS magic Acno would of noted him as a Slayer but he didn't. August can't use DS magic.
That fact of the matter is he can use historia to bring back GS and he solos Irene I don't know why it's hard to understand that. Acno didn't notice Irene was a DS in their first encounter.
Is doesn't mean the opposite either.
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GS would get merked by Irene, and August still has no DS magic himself in his arsenal. Acno didn't notice Irene bcs she actively hid the fact she was a Dragon. August however has shown to hide nothing. If he was DS why did he use regular fire magic on Natsu rather than GS purgatory flames? August needed a feat to suggest he can copy DS bcs it's unique magic that has a specific requirement to obtain it.
Yes, he MADE by extracting his info from his memory and pasting it onto a magical body. Edo Tenseis functions are fundamentally different, for Edos you are actually bringing them and their abilities back from the dead. For historia you are merely replicating them and their abilities. Again, its literally copy (from memories) and paste (onto a magical body). Absolutely no different then what August does with his copy magic, except he uses the magic for himself rather then affixing the data onto something else.
This doesnt work for two obvious reasons:
I never used that particular statement as any sort of evidence for why August would win.
When you show me her turning someone stronger then Hisui into an animal I'll consider that possibility. As it stands, thats definitely not happening.
lol Irene isn't soloing GS when august is around lol why u keep ignoring that? Irene is a DS the fact the acno couldn't sense her is plot hole. Mainly for acno not to one shot her
Lol that is a weird reply. She doesn't need to show it to prove she can do it.
yes she is, she hide her true power, even acno cant detect her as a mother of dragon slayer. When she form into dragon vs erza than acno know there is a strong dragon slayer nearby.
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August suicide attack cant kill dragon irene, she has her dragon scale to protect her,beside August is not a dragon slayer so his suicide magic wont effect her.
Yes she doe that like saying Mirajane can macro human Irene because she used it on fodders
What is August going to do? He's not doing anything to her in Dragon body since none of his magical attack are getting through her Dragon scales, and his physical are completely eclipsed by Irene's. GS is being oneshotted by Irene. Transmutation, BFR, blowing him up, or claw swipe.
Acno wasn't oneshotting unless he was really serious. He stomped on her multiple times yet unlike Gild or Serena her corpse wasn't ripped to shreds which already shows her durability far outclasses them. August attacks will be useless as their all magic base which mean they're not doing anything to her Dragon scales. She blitzes Serena and oneshots with a claw swipe.
You can say that for many things.
Except that acno was little more serious when he killed god serena vs Irene. He was going for the kill vs playing with Irene who was being causal. He blitz even august when killing GS . Irene would get ONESHOTTED if he was going for the kill. Jellal perform better feats than human Irene does that mean he stronger than Irene? August protect GS while he GS just need one good hit on her Irene isn't beating top 2 spriggan at the same time especially one who is on the same tier as her
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exactly which is my point that feat has to be used on a relevant strong mage to be credible
Umm actually she does, benefit of the doubt only goes so far. Her being able to turn someone of Serenas level (or any spriggan in general) into an animal just cause she did it with Hisui is pretty far from reasonable.
His physicals are most certainly not eclipsed by Irenes, dragon or not. He fires off a DS attack or summons an army of DS from Irenes past.
LOL what? Hiding her identity? Then I could just as easily say that August was hiding his identity, thats a pretty lame excuse if you ask me. Absolutely no reason why he wouldn't have it or couldn't copy Irenes DS magic, since as noted before, Neinhart copy/pastes personality and powers so August should be fully capable of doing the same.
Hang on, are you guys talking about August using Neinhart's Magic to summon GS?
not while august is there. august will be also be helping
yep but that part of historia magic
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correct