Fantasy August vs Irene

[sharkai]

That essentially a 2v1 than.

Not really
Its weakened august as he use his mo to make serena
And full power serena
Vs
Full power irene.

Both side will still have same amount of mp
Because august mp is equal to human irene

Of course dragon irene ia df irene. She is like df natsu

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We actually dont know whether august can keep magic of his opponent
People just assumed he used metero of jellal. It doesnt have to be

We do know hpwever he cant refract cana cards or read gildarts mind or shrink his wound

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I said it might as well be infinite, not that its actually infinite LOL



Nope, historia being weaker then the originals is not a drawback of Historia but a drawback of Neinharts MP. Because he was summoning 3 Spriggan he obviously did not have enough MP make every single one at full power (that would require x3 MP of a spriggan, which only Irene and August have). However, at the harbour everyone he summoned WAS at full power, if not outright stronger.



Yes she did. If you want to get into semantics then what she said exactly is that no other mage can stand up to August, which is basically the same thing. It in no shape or form implies that she can actually defeat him, it just means that she is the only one who doesn't get outright curbstomped.



Neinhart copies DS magic. Its literally his magic to take someone from someones memories and paste their personality/powers onto a magic body he creates. So yeah, if he can copy/paste DS magic then I see no reason why August or even Rufus wouldn't be able to do the same with their magic.

This not what brandish said
She clearly said august is not the strongest. He is one of the strongest.

This is far different then what you implied that irene wpuld not stomped.

His mp is equal human irene mp

August cant copy nienhart magic when nienhart isnt around. You just beleieve he copied jellal meteor, though it might not be true.

 

[LaGOAT]

Not really
Its weakened august as he use his mo to make serena
And full power serena
Vs
Full power irene.

Both side will still have same amount of mp
Because august mp is equal to human irene

Of course dragon irene ia df irene. She is like df natsu

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We actually dont know whether august can keep magic of his opponent
People just assumed he used metero of jellal. It doesnt have to be

We do know hpwever he cant refract cana cards or read gildarts mind or shrink his wound

Why do U think it's not meteor because he didn't say? That like saying every natsu"s punch isn't a iron fist

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Not really
Its weakened august as he use his mo to make serena
And full power serena
Vs
Full power irene.

Both side will still have same amount of mp
Because august mp is equal to human irene

Of course dragon irene ia df irene. She is like df natsu

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We actually dont know whether august can keep magic of his opponent
People just assumed he used metero of jellal. It doesnt have to be

We do know hpwever he cant refract cana cards or read gildarts mind or shrink his wound

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This not what brandish said
She clearly said august is not the strongest. He is one of the strongest.

This is far different then what you implied that irene wpuld not stomped.

His mp is equal human irene mp

August cant copy nienhart magic when nienhart isnt around. You just beleieve he copied jellal meteor, though it might not be true.

Irene herself said she the strongest woman is Alvarez so what brandish said is irrelevant.

 

[sharkai]

Why do U think it's not meteor because he didn't say? That like saying every natsu"s punch isn't a iron fist

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Irene herself said she the strongest woman is Alvarez so what brandish said is irrelevant.

Yeah exactly he didnt say it. There is a margin of doubt there
And then he never used anyone else magic either
So him having and keeping nienhart magic is a no no

Yes she is the strongest women. The person who i replied to seems to imply that brandish meant that august is alot stronger than irene

 

[Seven777]

Yeah exactly he didnt say it. There is a margin of doubt there
And then he never used anyone else magic either
So him having and keeping nienhart magic is a no no

Yes she is the strongest women. The person who i replied to seems to imply that brandish meant that august is alot stronger than irene

Just like Dragon Eileen being resistant to magic is a no no since it was never explicitly mentioned either. Guess August can take her down with any old spell then, no need to bother using his DS magic. Though if he wanted to make it easier on himself he'd just oneshot her with Natsu's fire DS magic.

 

[LaGOAT]

Yeah exactly he didnt say it. There is a margin of doubt there
And then he never used anyone else magic either
So him having and keeping nienhart magic is a no no

Yes she is the strongest women. The person who i replied to seems to imply that brandish meant
that august is alot stronger than irene

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/423/9 http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/423/10. So by ur logic this isn't a roar? Come on now The author doesn't have to spoon feed us every single name attack in the manga he knows us readers have a brain to know what it is. It's call PIS we know he can use it but he was clearly playing with gildartz and cana

 

[sharkai]

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/423/9 http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/423/10. So by ur logic this isn't a roar? Come on now The author doesn't have to spoon feed us every single name attack in the manga he knows us readers have a brain to know what it is. It's call PIS we know he can use it but he was clearly playing with gildartz and cana

No thats not my logic at all
August never copied any magic and retained it

Pis is possible
But i am not gonna give him feats he never showed.

 

[LaGOAT]

No thats not my logic at all
August never copied any magic and retained it

Pis is possible
But i am not gonna give him feats he never showed.

Yes that the logic ur using . He did but ur not admitting it

 

[sharkai]

Yes that the logic ur using . He did but ur not admitting it

But all he did was cover himself with magic. You just assumed he used meteor.
There is no garantee

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Just like Dragon Eileen being resistant to magic is a no no since it was never explicitly mentioned either. Guess August can take her down with any old spell then, no need to bother using his DS magic. Though if he wanted to make it easier on himself he'd just oneshot her with Natsu's fire DS magic.

It was explicitly mentioned
That even if erza could hit at august tier top tier move it still not enough to damage the dragon scales

Sorry august has one shot no one. Not even happy.

 

[Seven777]

But all he did was cover himself with magic. You just assumed he used meteor.
There is no garantee

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It was explicitly mentioned
That even if erza could hit at august tier top tier move it still not enough to damage the dragon scales

Sorry august has one shot no one. Not even happy.

She said Erza couldnt pierce her scales, has no relation to August or magic in general. All it means is that Erza cant pierce her scales. So im afraid its a no no. If you're gonna take Eileen's statement as implication of immunity to magic in general then i guess going by your standards everyone else should take what August has said as implication that he can use historia and any other magic.
August doesnt need feats. We already know that he is Eileen's superior and we already know that when using dragon slayer magic someone inferior to her can oneshot her out of dragon form.

 

[sharkai]

She said Erza couldnt pierce her scales, has no relation to August or magic in general. All it means is that Erza cant pierce her scales. So im afraid its a no no. If you're gonna take Eileen's statement as implication of immunity to magic in general then i guess going by your standards everyone else should take what August has said as implication that he can use historia and any other magic.
August doesnt need feats. We already know that he is Eileen's superior and we already know that when using dragon slayer magic someone inferior to her can oneshot her out of dragon form.

August is not Irene superior in power. Just in being sane.

No Irene said erza couldn't after she saw erza overpowering Irene strongest move.

August meanwhile straight out lied that he knew all magic. But in truth he was just copy cat who could only copy his current opponent magic.

And no. To one shot Irene out of her dragon form August plus attack will be required. Erza plus pof plus ds was that attack. Of course that is a plot hole. Irene dragon force her dragon form is her natural form. Her human form isn't

I like how you thought Irene the original ds never slayed a dragon solo. But think a non ds August can defeat irene dragon form. Lol. I wonder why the human were fodder to dragon 400 years. Apparently all you need is copy cat magicians like rufus and August or nienhart and you are good to go.

Belserion Irene igneel and all parent dragons are pretty stupid teaching ds.

No August actually need feats
Just like laxus actually require feats. I know this hard for you to understand

 

[LaGOAT]

But all he did was cover himself with magic. You just assumed he used meteor.
There is no garantee
August is not Irene superior in power. Just in being sane.

No Irene said erza couldn't after she saw erza overpowering Irene strongest move.

August meanwhile straight out lied that he knew all magic. But in truth he was just copy cat who could only copy his current opponent magic.

And no. To one shot Irene out of her dragon form August plus attack will be required. Erza plus pof plus ds was that attack. Of course that is a plot hole. Irene dragon force her dragon form is her natural form. Her human form isn't

I like how you thought Irene the original ds never slayed a dragon solo. But think a non ds August can defeat irene dragon form. Lol. I wonder why the human were fodder to dragon 400 years. Apparently all you need is copy cat magicians like rufus and August or nienhart and you are good to go.

Belserion Irene igneel and all parent dragons are pretty stupid teaching ds.

No August actually need feats
Just like laxus actually require feats. I know this hard for you to understand

No sorry bro Irene admit to be infenor to august when she said she the strongest woman case closed. Also by ur logic zeref cant hurt Irene so therefore u believe irene>zeref because he hasn't show the feats

 

[Ilikeyou]

Just like Dragon Eileen being resistant to magic is a no no since it was never explicitly mentioned either. Guess August can take her down with any old spell then, no need to bother using his DS magic. Though if he wanted to make it easier on himself he'd just oneshot her with Natsu's fire DS magic.

Dragons in general have been state and implied to be heavily immune to magic. Irene doesn't need to say it because it already been stated that dragon are almost immune to magic.

 

[LaGOAT]

Dragons in general have been state and implied to be heavily immune to magic. Irene doesn't need to say it because it already been stated that dragon are almost immune to magic.

HF natsu was able to damage on a dragon and base natsu is above that so.. and silver was able to freeze AF

 

[Ilikeyou]

HF natsu was able to damage on a dragon and base natsu is above that so.. and silver was able to freeze AF

Okay what are you trying to prove?

No sorry bro Irene admit to be infenor to august when she said she the strongest woman case closed. Also by ur logic zeref cant hurt Irene so therefore u believe irene>zeref because he hasn't show the feats

That doesnt mean she is weaker lol. She is right, she is the strongest women how does that prove she is weaker?

 

[sharkai]

No sorry bro Irene admit to be infenor to august when she said she the strongest woman case closed. Also by ur logic zeref cant hurt Irene so therefore u believe irene>zeref because he hasn't show the feats

Unfortunately Irene never said she is inferior to August.
Nor has anyone else.

Zeref is different. I won't talk about him till he actually does something. I think he should be near acno tier

Irene and August are equal as already clearly mentioned in the manga.
I however check stats or
Hp and mp
They both have equal mp. Well human Irene and August have equal mp
Hp goes to the dragon

That why I think Irene beats August. Of course she is mostly immune to normal magic helps a lot.

But August has a lot of hax
So he should be able to hold off Irene for a while.
But him taking out Irene makes no sense.
Even if we give benefit of doubt to August and say he can do hostoria of Serena. Technically we have to give equal benefit of doubt to Irene and believe that Irene will just stare away those hostoria like erza did. (Remember nienhart remembered Irene after erza did that)

That's pretty much it

He can't do ds himself because a dragon has to enchant him with ds or he needs a lacrima.

 

[Seven777]

Dragons in general have been state and implied to be heavily immune to magic. Irene doesn't need to say it because it already been stated that dragon are almost immune to magic.

Dragons in general have been stated to be too powerful to kill normally, however there has been no real mention of "immunity" to magic. The fact that all those dragons could go through eclipse proves otherwise.

August is not Irene superior in power. Just in being sane.

No Irene said erza couldn't after she saw erza overpowering Irene strongest move.

August meanwhile straight out lied that he knew all magic. But in truth he was just copy cat who could only copy his current opponent magic.

And no. To one shot Irene out of her dragon form August plus attack will be required. Erza plus pof plus ds was that attack. Of course that is a plot hole. Irene dragon force her dragon form is her natural form. Her human form isn't

I like how you thought Irene the original ds never slayed a dragon solo. But think a non ds August can defeat irene dragon form. Lol. I wonder why the human were fodder to dragon 400 years. Apparently all you need is copy cat magicians like rufus and August or nienhart and you are good to go.

Belserion Irene igneel and all parent dragons are pretty stupid teaching ds.

No August actually need feats
Just like laxus actually require feats. I know this hard for you to understand

Just like Eileen also "straight up lied" about the Meteor being impossible to destroy by a human right? I guess since one human destroyed that Meteor that means that any human no matter how weak can destroy it too, right? Me assuming August can use most magic based on his statement is no different from you assuming the Meteor cant be sliced by most humans. Just because there were proven exceptions to both statements, doesnt mean that they are entirely untrue.

I agree its a plot hole that Eileen turns back into a human.

August knows Fire Dragon Slayer magic.
Normal dragons dont turn into humans when they get hit by DS magic.
I said Eileen couldve soloed fodder dragons, and even Zirconis tiers, just not any "leader" tier dragons like Motherglare or Parent Dragons.
August is Eileen's equal minimum, so its only natural for me to assume that he'd beat her if he had Slayer advantage over her.

 

[**Silver**]

this shit is running circles disagree or agree

 

[Ilikeyou]

Dragons in general have been stated to be too powerful to kill normally, however there has been no real mention of "immunity" to magic. The fact that all those dragons could go through eclipse proves otherwise.

I give you the panel were it stated when I get home. I am on my phone right now

 

[LaGOAT]

Unfortunately Irene never said she is inferior to August.
Nor has anyone else.

Zeref is different. I won't talk about him till he actually does something. I think he should be near acno tier

Irene and August are equal as already clearly mentioned in the manga.
I however check stats or
Hp and mp
They both have equal mp. Well human Irene and August have equal mp
Hp goes to the dragon

That why I think Irene beats August. Of course she is mostly immune to normal magic helps a lot.

But August has a lot of hax
So he should be able to hold off Irene for a while.
But him taking out Irene makes no sense.
Even if we give benefit of doubt to August and say he can do hostoria of Serena. Technically we have to give equal benefit of doubt to Irene and believe that Irene will just stare away those hostoria like erza did. (Remember nienhart remembered Irene after erza did that)

That's pretty much it

He can't do ds himself because a dragon has to enchant him with ds or he needs a lacrima.

She said she is the strongest woman if she was the strongest sprrigan she would have said that simple as that. No since u want to play that game where u like to pick and choose statements to benefit ur argument then zeref is below Irene because he has to show feats that he can beat a dragon. See ur assuming that Zeref is on near acno tier but U have better nothing to back that up. Brandish was the only one that stated that and even then she didn't say they were equal if anything they are on the same tier. She stated that Irene has a possibility to beat august. u also assumed that Irene durability=a dragon durability because she can turn into a dragon. If want to assume that I can also august can copy DS magic. Also some1 like silver was able to freeze AF august who is leap and bounds silver should able to damage irene.

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Okay what are you trying to prove?

If silver can put damage on a dragon then some1 like gray can do the same too

 

[Ilikeyou]

She said she is the strongest woman if she was the strongest sprrigan she would have said that simple as that. No since u want to play that game where u like to pick and choose statements to benefit ur argument then zeref is below Irene because he has to show feats that he can beat a dragon. See ur assuming that Zeref is on near acno tier but U have better nothing to back that up. Brandish was the only one that stated that and even then she didn't say they were equal if anything they are on the same tier. She stated that Irene has a possibility to beat august. u also assumed that Irene durability=a dragon durability because she can turn into a dragon. If want to assume that I can also august can copy DS magic. Also some1 like silver was able to freeze AF august who is leap and bounds silver should able to damage irene.

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If silver can put damage on a dragon then some1 like gray can do the same too

Maybe depends on how strong the dragon is.