Final August vs Irene

[Demon Hunter]

eh I think there are too many speculation on the August part.

he can use DS, GS, Enchantment etc.

what's next, he can use Death Magic

honestly, Irene and August shouldn't even be here.

August because people can make up shit how he knows every magic (even those he didn't show he can use it) and Irene because she is a dragon.

 

[Orgastthemage]

Well i normally agree with you but i will say some points:-

i)When August forced Irene to submit,she did say that she will do "this time only" to keep August's face.


ii)Most probably August is the General because he is loyal and follows Zeref completely.While Irene goes in her own way.


iii)Both of their MP was thought to be nearly same by Mirajane and Mavis.They didn't even see her Dragon form.Even if August has more M.P. still he has to defeat a Dragon.


iv)And also Irene had probably defeated Sting and Rogue in the northern front.So she has defeated Dragon Slayers.

Given Irene's cocky person, she still admitted she was just the strongest woman.

August said he was the strongest MAGE amongst the twelve.

I think this is indication enough of who both mages thought was superior.

 

[LaGOAT]

eh I think there are too many speculation on the August part.

he can use DS, GS, Enchantment etc.

what's next, he can use Death Magic

honestly, Irene and August shouldn't even be here.

August because people can make up shit how he knows every magic (even those he didn't show he can use it) and Irene because she is a dragon.

Look at this bro the feats that are shown august till wins august use meteor blitz a Irene and then proceed to use crash magic to disperse her all of that can be used be4 her dragon form (of she is immune to magic) she couldn't dodge erza and base form Wendy attacks meteor august>erza and Wendy.

 

[Jko]

Narrative portrayal and shounen stereotyping of antagonists power levels disagree with that. August was the last spriggan standing for a reason.

He got the least beat up amongst all antagonists so far this arc.

We can agree he performed the best out of all the spriggans. He is general for a reason. Mashima saved him last for a reason. He got injured least for a goof reason.

Who' s to say she even stays in dragon form? He could just as easily paralyse her in human form by means of an elecared form of hyberion's vampire magic. Crash her enchantment or slow her down with race's magic.

He could listen to her thoughts and stay one step ahead. He is faster than her by means of meteor. Doesn't seem like dragon form is the decisive factor here.

Narrative and "portrayal" also led us to believe Gild was the strongest FT mage, S12 were just too strong for them one on one (even for Natsu), and that Larcade was the son of Zeref. That pointless stuff got thrown out the window this arc. Last S12 standing means nothing when he did nothing. His spells were lackluster af. You need feats to win a battle not words.

Also portrayal showed us August shatting his pants in front of Acno while Irene went face to face with him.

He got the least beat up bcs he had the second quickest S12 fight. His fight ended faster than Neinhart's (first fight). The guy did like two moves and suicided. On the other hand Irene had the longest S12 fight and had the most screen time amongst the S12. She also was the biggest contributor throughout the war.

Why wouldn't she? Paralyze her with what? None of that weak sleeping magic is going to work on her, and Irene's stats in human form outrank August's still.

Dragons have shown telepathy magic as well so she can just read his mind as well. Plus enhance Dragon physicals allow her to move at immensely faster speeds than August.

August can't win against a Dragon. His best spell was some sucky suicide spell.

 

[EmptySoul]

Dragon Irene and August never fought so August saying "hurr durr im the strongest mage" could only be used against her human form

Anyways if August can copy DSM then that would mean he can copy Zerefs death magic like Jean said since its still caster magic isnt that right?

 

[Demon Hunter]

Look at this bro the feats that are shown august till wins august use meteor blitz a Irene and then proceed to use crash magic to disperse her all of that can be used be4 her dragon form (of she is immune to magic) she couldn't dodge erza and base form Wendy attacks meteor august>erza and Wendy.

problem is, everyone thinks he can't hurt her dragon form.

no human ever managed to hurt a dragon with anything bar DS magic.

its very HARD to believe he can.

 

[LaGOAT]

Dragon Irene and August never fought so August saying "hurr durr im the strongest mage" could only be used against her human form

Anyways if August can copy DSM then that would mean he can copy Zerefs death magic like Jean said since its still caster magic isnt that right?

Yes copy lol magic is copy magic is a simply as that he only weakness is holder mages so he copy magic till works on caster mage so he can copy enchantment of Irene use it again him

 

[Orgastthemage]

Narrayive and "portrayal" also led us to believe Gild was the strongest FT mage, S12 were just too strong for them one on one (even for Natsu), and that Larcade was the son of Zeref. That pointless stuff got thrown out the window this arc. Last S12 standing means nothing when he did nothing. His spells were lackluster af. You need feats to win a battle not words.

Also portrayal showed us August shatting his pants in front of Acno while Irene went face to face with him.

He got the least beat up bcs he had the second quickest S12 fight. His fight ended faster than Neinhart's (first fight). The guy did like two moves and suicided. On the other hand Irene had the longest S12 fight and had the most screen time amongst the S12. She also was the biggest contributor throughout the war.

Why wouldn't she? Paralyze her with what? None of that weak sleeping magic is going to work on her, and Irene's stats in human form outrank August's still.

Dragons have shown telepathy magic as well so she can just read his mind as well. Plus enhance Dragon physicals allow her to move at immensely faster speeds than August.

August can't win against a Dragon. His best spell was some sucky suicide spell.

Truth is we can only assume everything about these two given that they weren't fleshed out in terms of ability. Irene had one of the worst fights this arc. August' s was rushed like crazy.

August being able to use all magic, Irene being able to do what an average to above average dragon should be able to do, we can only speculate as to them being able to do this.

The narrative of both characters (both part of this fight) is the best comparison of their strengths we have. Irene said it herself. She is the strongest female. August said it himself. He is the strongest mage.

 

[LaGOAT]

problem is, everyone thinks he can't hurt her dragon form.

no human ever managed to hurt a dragon with anything bar DS magic.

its very HARD to believe he can.

Hence why I said he can do that be4 her turning into a dragon. People are saying that he can't copy zeref magic becuase he hasn't shown proof is the same logic zeref can't beat Irene becuase humans<dragons

 

[Demon Hunter]

Hence why I said he can do that be4 her turning into a dragon. People are saying that he can't copy zeref magic becuase he hasn't shown proof is the same logic zeref can't beat Irene becuase humans<dragons

yep.

that's why I will repeat Dragon > Humans (no DS) unless someone hurts them without DS.

plus, the second reason I vote Irene is because August is a Dragneel and I hate Dragneel's

 

[Orgastthemage]

yep.

that's why I will repeat Dragon > Humans (no DS) unless someone hurts them without DS.

plus, the second reason I vote Irene is because August is a Dragneel and I hate Dragneel's

He's a vermilion possibly? Hahaha.

 

[EmptySoul]

Yes copy lol magic is copy magic is a simply as that he only weakness is holder mages so he copy magic till works on caster mage so he can copy enchantment of Irene use it again him

Oh shit,So he can Copy Zerefs death magic?

Yo guys,pls Link me dat Lit Fanfic u guys are reading

 

[LaGOAT]

Narrative and "portrayal" also led us to believe Gild was the strongest FT mage, S12 were just too strong for them one on one (even for Natsu), and that Larcade was the son of Zeref. That pointless stuff got thrown out the window this arc. Last S12 standing means nothing when he did nothing. His spells were lackluster af. You need feats to win a battle not words.

Also portrayal showed us August shatting his pants in front of Acno while Irene went face to face with him.

He got the least beat up bcs he had the second quickest S12 fight. His fight ended faster than Neinhart's (first fight). The guy did like two moves and suicided. On the other hand Irene had the longest S12 fight and had the most screen time amongst the S12. She also was the biggest contributor throughout the war.

Why wouldn't she? Paralyze her with what? None of that weak sleeping magic is going to work on her, and Irene's stats in human form outrank August's still.

Dragons have shown telepathy magic as well so she can just read his mind as well. Plus enhance Dragon physicals allow her to move at immensely faster speeds than August.

August can't win against a Dragon. His best spell was some sucky suicide spell.

So if she fought anco l? Jellal and makarov Ichiya and Anna did that doesn't mean anything. And Irene performance was worse than august even tho being shorter she struggle against Wendy and Erza. When august didn't. Ur giving feats to Irene? That is really double standards right there if u wanna do that then let's give august DS magic and its end game. Her best spell was destroy by a broken bones erza.

 

[Demon Hunter]

He's a vermilion possibly? Hahaha.

I can argue that Vermilion is even worse

 

[LaGOAT]

Oh shit,So he can Copy Zerefs death magic?

Yo guys,pls Link me dat Lit Fanfic u guys are reading

Give me a reason why he can't copy zeref magic

 

[Demon Hunter]

Give me a reason why he can't copy zeref magic

its a Curse

 

[**Silver**]

I can argue that Vermilion is even worse

yeah Irene wins this entire tournament

 

[LaGOAT]

its a Curse

Ok fair enough but zeref till use magic so august can till copy his magic if he uses it.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Ok fair enough but zeref till use magic so august can till come his magic if he uses it.

if he copies Zeref then he gets one shotted by Natsu.

that's Zeref' magic

 

[LaGOAT]

if he copies Zeref then he gets one shotted by Natsu.

that's Zeref' magic

Hey true that but somehow lost to august in this tournament even with POF so august>Irene>POF natsu>FH zeref in most ppl eyes

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 11, 2017, Original Post Date: Jun 11, 2017 ---