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Seems this post is pinned so here are the 2025/26 award predictions that I've received so far! If you haven't sent already then feel free to shoot me your list!

 
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Re: The NBA Thread

Harden was JUST coming into his own last season. The Olympic experience and his play in the first few games with Houston (and the season) has shown his tremendous growth from then til now. I remember that it was implied that Harden not playing well in the Finals was the reason Miami was able to sweep them after they dropped the first. I don't think they'd be Guaranteed to win it all this year but they would be able to hold on to the top seed in the west with more consistency. Westbrook didn't take the full max contract (Look-up Rose rule) so that it would be possible to sign Harden (and Ibaka). Obviously Harden wanted money over championships. I like Westbrook and Durant they are essentially a younger, less experienced version of James and Wade. Harden and Durant doesn't work as well because they both need room to operate. Westbrook shoots gaps and is a beast on breaks so that way the Thunder can attack you in multiple ways. Thats my take though.

On Indiana: Well they came out of left field. With Granger back they could be very scary for the Heat. George is one of like 3 players that can actually stick LeBron and still do his thing on Offense. Very rare and very necessary when the Play-offs come.
 

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Re: The NBA Thread

Harden was there the last season, too, and they were defeated. The problem is you can't expect Harden to be a 25 ppg scorer in a sixth man role, where Westbrook & Durant are the primary ball handlers. For me, I'd let go of Westbrook instead of giving him an overrated max contract and resign Harden and Ibaka.
George is more versatile, but he isn't as good as a pure scorer. He has his own strengths, though. Still, lacking consistency when it comes to scoring. Partially because Indiana's offensive system this season went pretty much into a mess when Granger got injured. Hard to deny that the team has been doing a great job without him, anyway.
I would have traded Westbrook and resigned Harden too. Harden is a better ball handler, but still Wesbrook's equal as a scorer. His on court decision making is typically better too. As a more willing passer, and superior play maker, Harden better complements Durant. Instead, they have two players who need the ball to excel. I liked OKC most when they let Harden initiate plays, and Westbrook played off the ball. He is devastating coming off screens, or slashing to the basket without the ball. Since John Wall came back they have turned into a really fun team to watch.

On that note, I'm pissed I had to miss Houston vs. Washington yesterday. The Wizards came back from a 17 point deficit to win. Don't sleep on DC. The Wizards aren't there yet, but we have a really nice core of players. One more lottery pick should be enough to put this team over the top.
 
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Re: The NBA Thread

Like I said Westbrook took a pay cut and Harden wasn't going to. I'd rather have the self less player than the greedy one. Also Westbrook can still improve a lot more because he relies on his athleticism whereas Harden is very skill based (he is athletic though just not as explosive). Westbrook has been more consistent as a good player, he trains with D-Rose annually and has a competitive edge on par with Kobe and Wade. I like Harden but I think people put down Westbrook way too much. He has been all nba second team two years in a row. That means he's been the second best PG for the last two years. That's a really hard thing to do in this current PG crazy league.

John Wall lol, I think his draft position and his presumed potential came from PGs like Westbrook and Rose. He's a great athlete with great court vision but if you can't shoot it really brings his potential down. That's why Kyrie Irving has already leapfrogged him and why he'll never catch up Paul,Rose,etc. I do like Beal though he's really coming around right now but the Wizards are going to really hope they get good draft picks these next two years. I say two cause that's the wiggins/Parker sweepstakes lol
 

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Re: The NBA Thread

That's BS man. Harden will get in Houstoun the same aumont of money that Westbrook is getting in OKC.
The Thunder wanted him to accept less than Westbrook and less than max money. Why should he accept that?
Owners who want championships must be willing to pay the price for price for it, or at least be smart.
I prefer Harden as a player than Westbrook and I think that calling him greedy is unfair.
anyway.. here are their salaries

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/rockets.jsp
http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/thunder.jsp
 

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Re: The NBA Thread

I would have traded Westbrook and resigned Harden too. Harden is a better ball handler, but still Wesbrook's equal as a scorer. His on court decision making is typically better too. As a more willing passer, and superior play maker, Harden better complements Durant. Instead, they have two players who need the ball to excel. I liked OKC most when they let Harden initiate plays, and Westbrook played off the ball. He is devastating coming off screens, or slashing to the basket without the ball. Since John Wall came back they have turned into a really fun team to watch.

On that note, I'm pissed I had to miss Houston vs. Washington yesterday. The Wizards came back from a 17 point deficit to win. Don't sleep on DC. The Wizards aren't there yet, but we have a really nice core of players. One more lottery pick should be enough to put this team over the top.
That's right. As good as Kevin Martin has been as a filler for bench scoring, he is a lot more prone to getting shut down come play-off time. They will miss Harden in long term, no matter what happens, I'd say.

The Wizards have been a solid team on home court as of late. Their overall home record also is respectable for a lottery team right now. They can't really play out in the road yet, though.
The Real Deal Bradley Beal has been living up to his nickname, but still, they could get something meaningful for Crawford, at least more than what Boston gave them, which is practically nothing.
Tenacious is right. The Wizards need some good luck especially with the upcoming draft. Though, there isn't much for them out there to go for. They could hope to land Cody Zeller, a native, to bolster the frontcourt. He will be a hardly a rim protector, though, so, the Wizards are one of those teams that could roll the dice with the injured Noel. Regardless, this franchise needs to play it patient. Rebuilding from scratch isn't going to give the results right away.
 

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That's BS man. Harden will get in Houstoun the same aumont of money that Westbrook is getting in OKC.
The Thunder wanted him to accept less than Westbrook and less than max money. Why should he accept that?
Owners who want championships must be willing to pay the price for price for it, or at least be smart.
I prefer Harden as a player than Westbrook and I think that calling him greedy is unfair.
anyway.. here are their salaries

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/rockets.jsp
http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/thunder.jsp
http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/1/19/2719871/russell-westbrook-signs-for-80m
I made a comment about the "rose rule" before. Harden is a great player and all but until this year he hadn't proved he could be a focal point. He's doing great now but he could be the next T-Mac or the next Michael Redd. With the new CBA rules the league is changing. Next year it will be obvious if the trade deadline didn't give hints already (no major trades occurred).

Quick thought on wizards, it stinks to tank on purpose but if they drafted Noel and breezed through then the next year were able to get a top 3 pick that would be golden. Early predictions say that the 2014 draft will be somewhat like in '03 with lebron, wade, Anthony, and bosh.
 

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I don't think the Wizards will be tanking the next season, as much as that could make sense. They will still try to get the best possible end record and get up a few rungs in the ladder.
Besides, as you said, 2014 draft is really deep. Even if they ended up in a relatively disappointing lottery spot, they could still be getting a building block for the future.

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Meanwhile, Stephen Curry scored 54 points in MSG in a losing effort. He has scored 92 points in his last two games now, on 32-48 shooting (18-23 from behind the arc :oh).
 

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Yeah I saw the game last night. I've never watched him play in the NBA just in college. I was very impressed he reminds me of a young Ray Allen but not so much dunking. I can definetly understand why people were mad he didn't make the All Star team.
 

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He is like him, but Ray was a lot more explosive in his youth. But his perimeter stroke is unbelievably soft. I don't doubt he is the best pure shooter in the league at this point.
If Jeremy Lin is getting more votes than Steph Curry, those fans are high. Or biased.
Or both :XD
 

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Blame China and Yao Ming for the Lin thing. I think Durant is a better shooter though, his game just isn't predicated on pulling up from 25 feet as much. I could say the same for Irving as well but obviously if Curry is hot he's as good as you'll see, he needs to stay healthy though and not fight 7'2 centers....geese that could have been so much worse.
 

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Re: The NBA Thread


This is still NBA related so... :derp
 
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I kinda wish all the NBA teams had done it...


I must say I'm very much looking forward to the playoffs (mainly the western side) between the Lakers push, OKC's determination, and a possible HEAT dynasty happening I think we're in for some good basketball. I also would love to see an OKC vs Houston first round....

OKC draft blueprint

Nice article on what the Thunder have done to improve through the draft
 
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Re: The NBA Thread

Everyone should check out this week's Shaqtin' A Fool, roo :XD
 

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Re: The NBA Thread

dafuq was this Lakers comeback
 

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Celtics made a great comeback, as well.
They ended the game on a 11-0 run against the Pacers.
 

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Yeah I predicted a blow out in that one but boy was i wrong. I really wonder if boston is better without rondo or if it was just Avery Bradley coming back that improved them. Unfortunately while boston has the potential to beat any team in the east whose offense is initiated by a guard, Miami is the obvious exception to that. On top of that the current Miami team is much better than they werein the first half of the season.
 

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Did someone see the burger scandal in Philadelphia?

I like keeping this barely in topic btw :lmao
 
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Yeah I predicted a blow out in that one but boy was i wrong. I really wonder if boston is better without rondo or if it was just Avery Bradley coming back that improved them. Unfortunately while boston has the potential to beat any team in the east whose offense is initiated by a guard, Miami is the obvious exception to that. On top of that the current Miami team is much better than they werein the first half of the season.
Celtics fans are torn between those two answers in general or so it seems.
A crucial Hawks game coming up tonight.

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D-Will putting on a show against the Wizards. 8 first half treys en route to 30 points in 14 minutes.

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And another one! 9 first half treys! Deron is just four three pointers away from an all-time NBA record!
Well, he fell short. 11 is the final number for 42 points.
 
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@Hardy- that was a good video bomb! His focus to stay there was amazing. Much better than Chris Bosh who is unparalleled in quantity.

@Haku- how do you not break the record? Geese that's disappointing I mean no one cares about breaking the record for a half lol. I'm not a Boston fan but I think the hawks were a gimme even though it went to OT. The real test is OKC on the road.
 

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Well, he kinda went cold in the second half. Still 10 three pointers on his way to a 42-3-5 in a win is sounding a lot more like Deron. He has been a shadow of himself this season, but after the all-star break, he put together some nice games.
 
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