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Hell no! I was talking about animated movies just like the three ones they did so far. Gantz movie was really bad. I watched it and the SnK movie as well... Just stay away from that stuff lol.
Eh I think movies are too time-constrained. They had to cut out a good bit of detail to make the movies short enough. An anime series at least allows them to include all the details if they plan to have multiple seasons (which I sure as hell hope they do). So ideally an anime adaptation will always be more accurate to the source material.
 

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Eh I think movies are too time-constrained. They had to cut out a good bit of detail to make the movies short enough. An anime series at least allows them to include all the details if they plan to have multiple seasons (which I sure as hell hope they do). So ideally an anime adaptation will always be more accurate to the source material.
It's scary... If you think about the anime you've watched and start listing the ones that were actually faithful to the manga... That list will probably be shorter than Puck... While they did remove some great scenes from the moviesn, (the one with Zodd throwing his weapon to Guts was the one I felt so bad about)... They didn't add some crap that doesn't exist in the manga... Plus, the pacing was great (You know what I mean no over the top staring contests, no summaries or previews that eat half of each episode, no unnecessary flashbacks and the other shit anime series seem to love shoving in our faces...).
 

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It's scary... If you think about the anime you've watched and start listing the ones that were actually faithful to the manga... That list will probably be shorter than Puck... While they did remove some great scenes from the moviesn, (the one with Zodd throwing his weapon to Guts was the one I felt so bad about)... They didn't add some crap that doesn't exist in the manga... Plus, the pacing was great (You know what I mean no over the top staring contests, no summaries or previews that eat half of each episode, no unnecessary flashbacks and the other shit anime series seem to love shoving in our faces...).
Yea that being said. This is not a shonen anime so it will have an emphasis on quality like the original anime did. No bs. Just content I hope. I loved the movies and ya the zod scene being cut has me scratching my head. Also no giant penis monster before the Eclipse. I have faith. Just wait and see I suppose.
 

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Also, most of the anime that have over-the-top stare-down contests and dramatic pauses and flashbacks are those where the anime is catching up to the source material too fast (naruto, one piece, mostly shounen stuff) so they have to slow down the pace of the anime.

But I think Berserk has a lot of material that they can animate nicely without having to stretch with agonizing drama. Sure the source material is still too slow that the anime will eventually cut off at some point, but if they can divide the arcs into seasons then I don't think there's a problem.
 

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It's scary... If you think about the anime you've watched and start listing the ones that were actually faithful to the manga... That list will probably be shorter than Puck... While they did remove some great scenes from the moviesn, (the one with Zodd throwing his weapon to Guts was the one I felt so bad about)... They didn't add some crap that doesn't exist in the manga... Plus, the pacing was great (You know what I mean no over the top staring contests, no summaries or previews that eat half of each episode, no unnecessary flashbacks and the other shit anime series seem to love shoving in our faces...).
Oh and what was Farnese, Azan and Serpico showing up at the ball? And SK showing after the Guts and Caska love scene? They did add or if you want alter some scenes but what's even worse is that they cut some of the more important ones, like the bonfire scene which is pretty important if you want to really understand the BoTH and how they were willing to sacrifice everything for Griffith.
A TV anime adaptation is better, it allows you to give each character his own arc, that simply wasn't the case for the lesser characters like Judeau, Pipin, Corkus etc in the movies. So when their death happened you didn't feel emotionally attached to them, which I can say the 1997 TV series managed to pull off and that matters because the Eclipse felt more horrifying when you got to know those characters, in the movies they were almost like nameless soldiers. I still regard the TV series as the better adaptation because of that, because it fleshed out those characters more than the movies, so Griffith's choice and the eclipse felt more horrifying. And honestly Berserk is unlikely to go the filler road,that is something that is only pertaining to weekly series that often need to have at least an arc ahead in publication, and more importantly those are long running anime adaptations. Berserk will most likely never be a long running anime, because Miura could never release enough material for it, so what would happen is the anime taking an "indefinite break", kinda like HxH.
As long as they would deliver and be as faithful as possible that wouldn't be a bad option at all, and it's preferrable imo than just cutting key elements of the story just because it's a movie so they can't fit everything in.

...Whether it's the movies or the anime there can never be any hope to see Wyald included in it.What a shame, he's easily the best apostle.


Such wisdom, thanks Wyald.
 
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Also, most of the anime that have over-the-top stare-down contests and dramatic pauses and flashbacks are those where the anime is catching up to the source material too fast (naruto, one piece, mostly shounen stuff) so they have to slow down the pace of the anime.

But I think Berserk has a lot of material that they can animate nicely without having to stretch with agonizing drama. Sure the source material is still too slow that the anime will eventually cut off at some point, but if they can divide the arcs into seasons then I don't think there's a problem.
Yea there is no reason Berserk will get the shonen treatment. 26 episode seasons seem to be the best possible route to take. Split the seasons into major arcs as well. I really wouldn't mind if they did the golden age fully detailed. I know it's been beaten repeatedly but I never get sick of it. It's such an awesome story.
 

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Yea there is no reason Berserk will get the shonen treatment. 26 episode seasons seem to be the best possible route to take. Split the seasons into major arcs as well. I really wouldn't mind if they did the golden age fully detailed. I know it's been beaten repeatedly but I never get sick of it. It's such an awesome story.
What I'd like to see is something like JJBA, with each arc or saga adapted into an anime series. And when they do catch up on the manga it's likely they'll take a break, till there's enough released material.
They should take their time and adapt as much manga material as possible. If done like that we might get the most faithful adaptation yet.
 

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If anyone got a lot of free time please make a brief summary for me about what happened after Griffith new rebirth as a demon or whatsoever. i dropped this manga long time ago and i don't feel like reading it again. thanks in advance
 

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Why would you want a summary written by someone here if you don't even have enough interest to google a wiki summary or something?
 

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never thought i'd laugh so much in the berserk thread:gnut
 

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Not that I wouldn't mind suggesting reading it to someone, but you don't seem all that interested...no offense
 

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Not that I wouldn't mind suggesting reading it to someone, but you don't seem all that interested...no offense
to me....not trying to be harsh...but it's kinda insulting.
you ask a bunch of fans of the manga to tell you what happened because you dropped it...:nunogasm
 

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to me....not trying to be harsh...but it's kinda insulting.
you ask a bunch of fans of the manga to tell you what happened because you dropped it...:nunogasm
Insulting to who? I'm not going to attach personal feelings to it, just saying that if someone was actually that curious they would make the initiative themselves.

I get people being annoyed with the pace and everything, but...idk
 

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Well @Tryndamere it all depends on why you dropped it in the first place and if it can still hold some interest to you... but to put it shortly Griffith got what he always wanted and got his own kingdom after defeating Ganishka(the head of the Kushan army if you reached that part) and Guts...well he just reached Elfhelm where he was hoping he could drop Caska off and get her healed. Does that answer your question?

And I just gave you the grand lines, of course there's a lot of stuff that happens in between but those are the most important bits, oh yeah and the merging of layers happened because of Griffith (and SK) so the Berserk world is a big fucked up place right now with all kinds of magical creatures going on a rampage. :verily

It would be nice to know why you dropped it in the first place and if this kind of developments could spark your interest again. :)
 
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I see that people are as helpful as ever around here, well @Tryndamere it all depends on why you dropped it in the first place, but to put it shortly Griffith got what he always wanted and got his own kingdom after defeating Ganishka(the head of the Kushan army if you reached that part) and Guts...well he just reached Elfhelm where he was hoping he could drop Caska off and get her healed. Does that answer your question?

And I just gave you the grand lines, of course there's a lot of stuff that happens in between but those are the most important bits, oh yeah and the merging of layers happened because of Griffith (and SK) so the Berserk world is a big fucked up place right now with all kinds of magical creatures going on a rampage. :verily

It would be nice to know why you dropped it in the first place and if this kind of development could spark your interest again. :)
Because Griffith raped caska infront of Guts, i wanted guts to take his revenge so bad it fucked up my faith for this manga i want grifth to die, Every time i remember this part of the manga i hate it but i really wanted to know what happened after that, thanks man for your help.
 

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Because Griffith raped caska infront of Guts, i wanted guts to take his revenge so bad it fucked up my faith for this manga i want grifth to die, Every time i remember this part of the manga i hate it but i really wanted to know what happened after that, thanks man for your help.
just busting your ballz man....

but it is very much worth catching up on it:thumbs
 

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Insulting to who? I'm not going to attach personal feelings to it, just saying that if someone was actually that curious they would make the initiative themselves.

I get people being annoyed with the pace and everything, but...idk
My curiosity dwells within, who will lose and who will win Griffith or Guts only that.
 

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Because Griffith raped caska infront of Guts, i wanted guts to take his revenge so bad it fucked up my faith for this manga i want grifth to die, Every time i remember this part of the manga i hate it but i really wanted to know what happened after that, thanks man for your help.
Sure no problem, and tbh I'm not sure if what you're suggesting is feasible anymore since Griffith used Guts+Caska's child as a vessel in order to be reincarnated. So he would be killing his own son.:/
Though I feel you, I also want to see Guts impale Griffith on his Dragon slayer some day...
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just busting your ballz man....
It was rather rude tbh.You sure weren't helping...
 

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My curiosity dwells within, who will lose and who will win Griffith or Guts only that.
So then your interest is only results-oriented? Not about how the story gets there? The "journey"?

I mean, either way, there isn't really a rush, the series won't be finished anytime soon.
 

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Sure no problem, and tbh I'm not sure if what you're suggesting is feasible anymore since Griffith used Guts+Caska's child as a vessel in order to be reincarnated. So he would be killing his own son.:/
Though I feel you, I also want to see Guts impale Griffith on his Dragon slayer some day...
His own child ? So caska gave birth to griffith son ? oh my oh my :cookiestare :8C:epicfacepalm:4head
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So then your interest is only results-oriented? Not about how the story gets there? The "journey"?

I mean, either way, there isn't really a rush, the series won't be finished anytime soon.
it has been awhile since i dropped it like 7 years or so, i thought the manga is about to finish sorry if i bothered anyone tho.
 
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