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Oh Pudding Memo memo no mi, and Viola's giro giro are also great options :zomg

I forgot a lot of interesting fruits, so decide to list* them here so you can click the link and check the ones youd like to pick. (source : picked the lists from wikia)

*listed only canon fruits.

paramecia

Paramecia fruits

  • Gomu Gomu no Mi (English versions: Gum-Gum Fruit): Turns the user's body into rubber, giving them the power to stretch, bounce, and inflate; as well as make them immune to electricity and near impervious to blunt-force attacks and bullets. Eaten by Monkey D. Luffy.
  • Bara Bara no Mi (English versions: Chop-Chop Fruit): Allows the user to split their body into separate pieces, which the user can manipulate and make fly through the air. It also makes them immune to slashing attacks. Eaten by Buggy.
  • Sube Sube no Mi (English versions: Slip-Slip Fruit/Smooth-Smooth Fruit): Makes the user's skin extremely smooth and slippery, causing things to slide off them. Eaten by Alvida.
  • Bomu Bomu no Mi (English versions: Bomb-Bomb Fruit/Boom-Boom Fruit): Allows the user to create explosions from their body, as well as give explosive properties to their bodily secretions. Also makes the user immune to explosions. Eaten by Gem.
  • Kiro Kiro no Mi (English versions: Kilo-Kilo Fruit): Allows the user to increase or decrease their body weight at will. Eaten by Mikita.
  • Hana Hana no Mi (English versions: Flower-Flower Fruit): Allows the user to sprout duplicates of their body parts from any nearby surface. Eaten by Nico Robin.
  • Doru Doru no Mi (English versions: Wax-Wax Fruit): Allows the user to create and control candle wax. Eaten by Galdino.
  • Baku Baku no Mi (English versions: Munch-Munch Fruit): Allows the user to eat anything and transform their body to match the qualities of what they've recently eaten. Eaten by Wapol.
  • Mane Mane no Mi (English versions: Clone-Clone Fruit): Allows the user to transform into a physical lookalike of another person. Eaten by Kurozumi Higurashi until her death and later eaten by Bentham.
  • Supa Supa no Mi (English versions: Dice-Dice Fruit): Allows the user to transform any part of their body into a blade, thus gaining slashing abilities and making their skin as hard as steel. Eaten by Daz Bonez.
  • Toge Toge no Mi (English versions: Spike-Spike Fruit): Allows the user to grow spikes from their body. Eaten by Zala.
  • Ori Ori no Mi (English versions: Cage-Cage Fruit/Bind-Bind Fruit): Allows the user to create iron bindings on their opponents. Eaten by Hina.
  • Bane Bane no Mi (English versions: Spring-Spring Fruit/Boing-Boing Fruit): Allows the user to turn their limbs into springs. Eaten by Bellamy.
  • Ito Ito no Mi (English versions: String-String Fruit): Allows the user to create and control strings. Eaten by Donquixote Doflamingo.
  • Noro Noro no Mi (English versions: Slow-Slow Fruit): Allows the user to emit special photons that slow down anything they touch for 30 seconds. Eaten by Foxy.
  • Doa Doa no Mi (English versions: Door-Door Fruit): Allows the user to create and open doors on anything, including walls, living beings, and the even the air itself. Eaten by Blueno.
  • Awa Awa no Mi (English versions: Bubble-Bubble Fruit): Allows the user to create and control soap bubbles that can clean anything, including strength. Eaten by Kalifa.
  • Beri Beri no Mi (English versions: Berry-Berry Fruit): Allows the user to split their body into many spheres. Eaten by Very Good.
  • Sabi Sabi no Mi (English versions: Rust-Rust Fruit): Allows the user to rust anything they touch, including organic material. Eaten by Shu.
  • Shari Shari no Mi (English versions: Wheel-Wheel Fruit): Allows the user to turn their limbs into wheels. Eaten by Sharinguru.
  • Horo Horo no Mi (English versions: Hollow-Hollow Fruit): Allows the user to create and control ghosts. The ghosts cause despair in the people they touch and are capable of self-destructing. The user can also make their own ghost leave their body. Eaten by Perona.
  • Yomi Yomi no Mi (English versions: Revive-Revive Fruit): Allows the user to return to life after dying once already, as well as allow the user to make their returned soul temporarily leave their reanimated body. Eaten by Brook.
  • Kage Kage no Mi (English versions: Shadow-Shadow Fruit): Allows the user to manifest and control shadows. Eaten by Gecko Moria.
  • Suke Suke no Mi (English versions: Clear-Clear Fruit): Allows the user to become invisible, as well as make anything they touch invisible. Eaten by Absalom until his death and later eaten by Shiryu.
  • Nikyu Nikyu no Mi (English versions: Paw-Paw Fruit): Gives the user paw pads on their hands that can repel anything they touch. Eaten by Bartholomew Kuma.
  • Ope Ope no Mi (English versions: Op-Op Fruit): Allows the user to generate a sphere-like room, inside which they can manipulate anything. Eaten by Trafalgar D. Water Law.
  • Shiro Shiro no Mi (English versions: Castle-Castle Fruit): Allows the user to become a living fortress equipped with cannons, as well as letting them shrink people and objects and house them inside their body. Eaten by Capone Bege.
  • Wara Wara no Mi (English versions: Straw-Straw Fruit): Allows the user to create and control straw. They can attach other people's life forces to straw dolls, allowing the damage they take to transfer to the dolls and the people connected to them. Eaten by Basil Hawkins.
  • Mero Mero no Mi (English versions: Love-Love Fruit): Allows the user to turn people that feel attraction for them into stone. Eaten by Boa Hancock.
  • Doku Doku no Mi (English versions: Venom-Venom Fruit): Allows the user to create and control poison. Eaten by Magellan.
  • Horu Horu no Mi (English versions: Horm-Horm Fruit): Allows the user to create special hormones and inject them into a persons body, changing their biochemistry. Eaten by Emporio Ivankov.
  • Choki Choki no Mi (English versions: Snip-Snip Fruit): Allows the user to transform parts of their body into scissors. Anything cut by these scissors briefly gains the properties of paper. Eaten by Inazuma.
  • Gura Gura no Mi (English versions: Tremor-Tremor Fruit): Allows the user to create quakes and shockwaves. Considered to be the most powerful Paramecia. Eaten by Edward Newgate and later stolen from him by Marshall D. Teach upon his death.
  • Kira Kira no Mi: Allows the user to transform their body into diamond. Eaten by Jozu.
  • Woshu Woshu no Mi (English versions: Wash-Wash Fruit): Allows the user to literally wash and fold a person as if they were laundry. It also makes the victim's heart cleaner. Eaten by Tsuru.
  • Fuwa Fuwa no Mi (English versions: Float-Float Fruit): Allows the user to fly and make non-living things they touch levitate. Eaten by Shiki.
  • Mato Mato no Mi (English versions: Mark-Mark Fruit): Allows the user to mark a person as their target by touching them so that any weapon thrown with that same hand will chase after the marked target. Eaten by Vander Decken IX.
  • Fuku Fuku no Mi (English versions: Garb-Garb Jutsu): Allows the user to create clothing. Eaten by Kin'emon.
  • Hobi Hobi no Mi (English versions: Hobby-Hobby Fruit): Allows the user to turn people into subservient toys, simultaneously erasing any memory of the victim from the minds of others. It also halts the user's aging. Eaten by Sugar.
  • Buki Buki no Mi (English versions: Arms-Arms Fruit): Allows the user to transform their body into any kind of weapon. Eaten by Baby 5.
  • Guru Guru no Mi (English versions: Spin-Spin Fruit): Allows the user to make any part of their body spin like a propeller. Eaten by Buffalo.
  • Beta Beta no Mi (English versions: Stick-Stick Fruit): Allows the user to create and control mucus. Eaten by Trebol.
  • Zushi Zushi no Mi: Allows the user to manipulate gravity. Eaten by Issho.
  • Bari Bari no Mi (English versions: Barrier-Barrier Fruit): Allows the user to create barriers. Eaten by Kurozumi Semimaru until his death and later eaten by Bartolomeo.
  • Nui Nui no Mi (English versions: Stitch-Stitch Power): Allows the user to stitch things together. Eaten by Leo.
  • Giro Giro no Mi (English versions: Glare-Glare Fruit): Allows the user to see through solid objects, as well as read people's minds and memories. Eaten by Viola.
  • Ato Ato no Mi (English versions: Art-Art Fruit): Allows the user to transform people and objects into art. Eaten by Giolla.
  • Jake Jake no Mi (English versions: Jacket-Jacket Fruit): Allows the user to transform into a jacket and control the body of the person wearing them. Eaten by Kelly Funk.
  • Pamu Pamu no Mi (English versions: Pop-Pop Fruit): Allows the user to expand and rupture their body, as well as any inorganic object they touch. Eaten by Gladius.
  • Sui Sui no Mi (English versions: Swim-Swim Fruit): Allows the user to swim freely in the ground and walls. Eaten by Senor Pink.
  • Ton Ton no Mi (English versions: Ton-Ton Fruit): Allows the user to drastically increase their body weight. Eaten by Machvise.
  • Hira Hira no Mi (English versions: Ripple-Ripple Fruit): Allows the user to give anything they touch the properties of fabric, making it thin, flexible, and fluttering. Eaten by Diamante.
  • Ishi Ishi no Mi (English versions: Stone-Stone Fruit): Allows the user to assimilate into and control stone. Eaten by Pica.
  • Nagi Nagi no Mi (English versions: Calm-Calm Fruit): Allows the user to nullify sounds. Eaten by Donquixote Rosinante until his death.
  • Chiyu Chiyu no Mi (English versions: Heal-Heal Fruit): Allows the user to heal people's wounds. Eaten by Mansherry.
  • Soru Soru no Mi (English versions: Soul-Soul Fruit): Allows the user to extract people's souls and use them to bring objects to life. Eaten by Carmel until her death and later eaten by Charlotte Linlin.
  • Mira Mira no Mi (English versions: Mirror-Mirror Fruit): Allows the user to create mirrors that reflect attacks and act as entrances to the Mirro-World. Eaten by Charlotte Brûlée.
  • Pero Pero no Mi (English versions: Lick-Lick Fruit): Allows the user to create and control candy. Eaten by Charlotte Perospero.
  • Bisu Bisu no Mi (English versions: Bis-Bis Fruit): Allows the user to create and control biscuits. Eaten by Charlotte Cracker.
  • Bata Bata no Mi (English versions: Butter-Butter Fruit): Allows the user to create and control butter. Eaten by Charlotte Galette.
  • Buku Buku no Mi (English versions: Book-Book Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate books, as well as trap people inside them. Eaten by Charlotte Mont-d'Or.
  • Kuri Kuri no Mi (English versions: Cream-Cream Fruit): Allows the user to create and control cream. Eaten by Charlotte Opera.
  • Shibo Shibo no Mi (English versions: Wring-Wring Fruit): Allows the user to drain liquid from people and objects. Eaten by Charlotte Smoothie.
  • Memo Memo no Mi (English versions: Memo-Memo Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate people's memories. Eaten by Charlotte Pudding.
  • Mochi Mochi no Mi (English versions: Mochi-Mochi Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into mochi. Eaten by Charlotte Katakuri. This Devil Fruit is noted to be a "special Paramecia".
  • Hoya Hoya no Mi (English versions: Puff-Puff Fruit): Allows the user to summon a genie from their body. Eaten by Charlotte Daifuku.
  • Netsu Netsu no Mi (English versions: Heat-Heat Fruit): Allows the user to emit high heat from their body. Eaten by Charlotte Oven.
  • Kuku Kuku no Mi (English versions: Cook-Cook Fruit): Allows the user to transform objects into food. Eaten by Streusen.
  • Gocha Gocha no Mi: Allows the user to fuse themselves with other people. Eaten by Charlotte Newshi.
  • Oshi Oshi no Mi (English versions: Push-Push Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate the ground as if it were made of clay. Eaten by Morley.
  • Kobu Kobu no Mi (English versions: Pump-Pump Fruit): Allows the user to rally people into fighting and awaken their latent potential. Eaten by Belo Betty.
  • Toki Toki no Mi (English versions: Time-Time Ability): Allows the user to send themselves and others forward in time. Eaten by Kozuki Toki until her death.
  • Juku Juku no Mi (English versions: Ripe-Ripe Jutsu): Allows the user to mature and decay inanimate objects. Eaten by Shinobu.
Unnamed Fruits

  • Eustass Kid's fruit which allows him to manipulate magnetic forces.
  • Jewelry Bonney's fruit which allows her to manipulate the age of any person, including herself.
  • Scratchmen Apoo's fruit which allows him to morph body parts into instruments and use music as a weapon.
  • Urouge's fruit which allows him to convert damage taken into strength, resulting in expanding muscles.
  • Blamenco's fruit which creates pockets in his body that can store things such as a giant hammer.
  • Sanjuan Wolf's fruit that makes him bigger than regular giants.
  • Kurozumi Kanjuro's fruit that allows him to bring whatever he draws to life. Like Kin'emon, he refers to it as sorcery.
  • Tama's fruit that allows her to create dango from her cheeks that make any animal that eats them tame and subservient.



zoan

Zoan fruits


Ushi Ushi no Mi (Ox) series
  • Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Bison (English versions: Ox-Ox Fruit/Ox-Ox Fruit, Bison Model/Ox-Ox Fruit, Bison Form) - Allows the user to become a full bison or a half-bison hybrid. Eaten by Dalton.
  • Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Giraffe (English versions: English versions: Ox-Ox Fruit, Giraffe Model/Ox-Ox Fruit, Model: Giraffe) - Allows the user to become a full giraffe or a half-giraffe hybrid. Eaten by Kaku.
Hito Hito no Mi (Human) series
  • Hito Hito no Mi (English versions: Human-Human Fruit) - Allows any animal that eats it to get human characteristics like Tony Tony Chopper did when he ate the fruit.
  • Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Daibutsu (English versions: Human-Human Fruit, Daibutsu Model/Human-Human Fruit, Model: Buddha) - Allows the user to become a Daibutsu (a giant gold Buddha) or a half-Daibutsu hybrid. Eaten by Sengoku.
Tori Tori no Mi (Bird) series
Inu Inu no Mi (Dog) series
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Dachshund (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit/Mutt-Mutt Fruit, Dachshund Form/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Dachshund) - Allows the user to become a full dachshund or a half-dachshund hybrid. In the case of Babe's bazooka-like gun Lassoo, he became a dachshund/gun hybrid.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Jackal (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Jackal Strike/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Jackal/Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Jackal Model) - Allows the user to become a full jackal or a half-jackal hybrid. Eaten by Chaka.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Wolf (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Wolf Model/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Wolf) - Allows the user to become a full wolf or a half-wolf hybrid similar to a werewolf. Eaten by Jabra.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Tanuki - Allows the user to become a full tanuki or a half-tanuki hybrid. In the case of Tenguyama Hitetsu's teapot Bunbuku, he becomes a tanuki/teapot hybrid.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Kyubi no Kitsune (English version: Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Nine Tailed Fox) - Allows the user to become a full nine-tailed fox or a half-nine-tailed fox hybrid, and allows the user to become perfect clones of other people. Eaten by Catarina Devon.
Neko Neko no Mi (Cat) series
Zou Zou no Mi (Elephant) series
  • Zou Zou no Mi (English version: Elephant-Elephant Fruit/Eleph-Eleph Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full elephant or a half-elephant hybrid. In the case of Spandam's sword Funkfreed, he becomes an elephant/sword hybrid.
  • Zou Zou no Mi, Model: Mammoth (English version: Elephant-Elephant Fruit, Model: Mammoth) - Allows the user to become a full mammoth or a half-mammoth hybrid. Eaten by Jack.
Ryu Ryu no Mi (Dragon) series
Hebi Hebi no Mi (Snake) series
Sara Sara no Mi (Salamander) series
  • Sara Sara no Mi, Model: Axolotl (English version: Sala-Sala Fruit, Model: Axolotl) - Allows the user to become a full axolotl or a half-axolotl hybrid. In the case of Caesar Clown's slime Smiley, it became an axolotl/slime hybrid until it's death.
Mushi Mushi no Mi (Bug) series
  • Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Kabutomushi (English version: Bug-Bug Fruit, Model: Rhinoceros Beetle) - Allows the user to become a full rhinoceros beetle or a half-rhinoceros beetle hybrid. The user can also fly in either form. Eaten by Kabu.
  • Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Suzumebachi (English version: Bug-Bug Fruit, Model: Hornet) - Allows the user to become a full hornet or a half-hornet hybrid. The user can also fly in either form. Eaten by Bian.
Single model series
  • Mogu Mogu no Mi (English version: Diggy-Diggy Fruit/Mole-Mole Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full mole or a half-mole hybrid. The user can also dig underground. Eaten by Drophy.
  • Uma Uma no Mi (English version: Horse-Horse Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full horse or a half-horse hybrid. In the case of Gan Fall's pet bird Pierre, he resembles a Pegasus.
  • Kame Kame no Mi (English version: Turtle-Turtle Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full turtle or a half-turtle hybrid. In the case of Pekoms, he resembles a Tarasque
Unnamed Fruits

This section lists the Zoan Devil Fruits that haven't been identified yet.

  • Minotaurus' fruit which allows him to take the form of a Holstein cow.
  • Minokoala's fruit which allows him to take the form of a koala.
  • Minorhinoceros' fruit which allows him to take the form of a rhinoceros.
  • Minozebra's fruit which allows him to take the form of a zebra.
  • Onigumo's fruit that lets him sprout spider-like arms from his back as well as grow a spider's abdomen.
  • Dalmatian's fruit which allows him to turn into a dalmatian.
  • Epoida's fruit which allows him to turn into a caterpillar.
  • Minochihuahua's fruit which allows him to take the form of a chihuahua.
  • Kaido's fruit which allows him to transform into an eastern dragon.





logia

Logia fruits

  • Moku Moku no Mi (English Versions: Smoke-Smoke Fruit/Plume-Plume Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into smoke. Eaten by Smoker.
  • Suna Suna no Mi (English Versions: Sand-Sand Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into sand. The sand can dehydrate any non-metallic substance it touches. Eaten by Crocodile.
  • Mera Mera no Mi (English Versions: Flame-Flame Fruit/Flare-Flare Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into fire. Eaten by Portgas D. Ace until his death and later eaten by Sabo.
  • Goro Goro no Mi (English Versions: Rumble-Rumble Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into lightning. Eaten by Enel.
  • Hie Hie no Mi (English Versions: Chilly-Chilly Fruit/Ice-Ice Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into ice. Eaten by Kuzan.
  • Yami Yami no Mi (English Versions: Dark-Dark Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into darkness. The darkness has strong gravitational properties and the user has an infinite amount of space inside of their elemental body. Eaten by Marshall D. Teach.
  • Pika Pika no Mi (English Versions: Glint-Glint Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into light. Eaten by Borsalino.
  • Magu Magu no Mi (English Versions: Mag-Mag Fruit): Allows the user to create, create, and transform into magma. Eaten by Sakazuki.
  • Numa Numa no Mi (English Versions: Swamp-Swamp Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into mud. The user is a "bottomless swamp", granting them an infinite amount of space inside their elemental body. The mud can take on the properties of quicksand. Eaten by Caribou.
  • Gasu Gasu no Mi (English Versions: Gas-Gas Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into gas. Eaten by Caesar Clown.
  • Yuki Yuki no Mi (English Versions: Snow-Snow Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into snow. Eaten by Monet until her death.


 

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I thought aokiji meant "blue pheasant"
 

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Interesting. But then again, if Vegapunk can copy Kuma's ability, why not provide all Pacifistas with it?
Probably because the Pacifistas are still not perfected and Vegapunk didn't want to make them too powerful in case they went out of control. One Kuma is deadly enough, imagine ten of them going berserk :notrust

aokiji = sub zero
I thought aokiji meant "blue pheasant"
Aokiji does mean "blue pheasant" but I think what Belisar means is Aokiji is like the character Sub Zero (from a game?) since Elyon A. Luna is making that list above.
 
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Ice is pretty clear. I'll update the list here

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Gomu Gomu no Mi (Luffy) The most famous example of this power is, of course, Mr. Fantastic. Luffy's versatibility of the power's use has however long ago surpassed the classic superhero.

Bara Bara no Mi (Buggy)

Sube Sube no Mi (Alvida)

Kilo Kilo no Mi (Miss Valentine) A version of this power which affects anyone other than the user is the ability of Kira's zanpakuto, Wabisuke, in Bleach,though only in weight aumenting. Though of course, the DF power predates it.

Bomu Bomu no Mi (Mr. 5)

Hana Hana no Mi (Robin)

Doru Doru no Mi (Mr. 3)

Baku Baku no Mi (Wapol)

Mane Mane no Mi (Mr. 2) Can't think of a specific case right now.

Toge Toge no Mi (Miss Doublefinger)

Supa Supa no Mi (Mr. 1)

Ori Ori no Mi (Hina)

Bane Bane no Mi (Bellamy)

Noro Noro no Mi (Foxy) ¿Time slowing?

Doa Doa no Mi (Blueno) Doraemon's Anywhere door (Dokodemo doa) Just it isn't interdimensional.

Awa Awa no Mi (Kalifa)

Beri Beri no Mi (Very Good)

Sabi Sabi no Mi (Shuu)

Shari Shari no Mi (Sharinguru)

Yomi Yomi no Mi (Brook) Resurrection, everything is said. Though is rare for the soul to have to look for the body.

Kage Kage no Mi (Moria) Peter Pan, as for the shadow detaching.

Horo Horo no Mi (Pellona)

Suke Suke no Mi (Absalom) Invisibilty. Nuff said.

Nikyu Nikyu no Mi (Kuma) I can think of teleporting, but sending things flying? Anyway, Bleach's Orihime healing powers (rejection)

Mero Mero no Mi (Hancock) Saint Seiya, the silver saint Algol of Perseus, who wielded the shield of Medusa.

Doku Doku no Mi (Magellan)

Horu Horu no Mi (Ivankov)

Choki Choki no Mi (Inazuma) Edward Scissorhands.

Doflamingo? -Puppetmon

Kid -Magneto
Law -Belmonde le visiteur's main character has a similar power. That one would predate this one.
Bonney -
Capone -
Hawkins-
Urouge -
Apoo -
The tunneler -
Lafitte? -

Zoan

I'll skip the zoans, for they are very common abilities. If someone wants to make a note, I'll add it.

Logia

Moku Moku no Mi (Smoker)
Mera Mera no Mi (Ace) Johny Storm, Roy Mustang, the list could go on...
Suna Suna no Mi (Crocodile) Spiderman's Sandman?
Goro Goro no Mi (Enel) Mortal Kombat's Raiden.
Hie Hie no Mi (Aokiji) Mortal Kombat's Sub Zero
Yami Yami no Mi (Blackbeard)
Pika Pika no Mi (Kizaru)
 

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About objects eating DF fruits, maybe it is related to Kuma's ability to repel. Kuma can repel even pain and fatigue from a body so why repel not the DF abilities from the devil fruits and put it into an object. Vegapunk may have realised this and copied Kuma's ability just like he did for Kizaru(maybe with the help of a Copy Copy fruit?) and develop the technique to feed DFs to object.
Do you find this a plausibe explanation or is it too farfetched?
Interesting. But then again, if Vegapunk can copy Kuma's ability, why not provide all Pacifistas with it?
Assuming that what I said was true, maybe Vegapunk finds it easier to place Kizaru's laser in the Pacisfista instead of Kuma's paws or has not yet been able to develop this technique for fighting purposes. Also it may be more difficult for mindless puppets such as the pacifista to fully use Kuma's repulsion power as opposed to simply shooting Kizaru's lasers. As Gecko Moria pointed out, it would be more difficult to deal with a berserk Pacifista that can accidently send you flying for three days than one that shoots laser.
It may also be that what Vegapunk plans as a perfect pacisfista is what you just proposed i.e. an exact copy of Kuma(or why not an Admiral):s
 

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Pacifistas are not mindless puppets. One of them was even shown talking.

Vegapunk didn't duplicate Kizaru's ability into Pacifistas. It's more likely that he observed how Kizaru makes laser beams and used his brilliant mind to duplicate the effect with machines.

Kuma's ability is a little different. I don't think Vegapunk can duplicate it, or that it can be used to infuse objects with zoans. There's probably a different method in question.
 

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i was thinking more along the line of vegapunk finding a way to store kizaru's laser in the pacifistas. but not sure since there werent sign of them running low on the laser beams. so that would support wht u said about duplicating the ability of kizaru. nonetheless its interesting.
 

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Well, if it's true that Vegapunk is 500 years ahead of his time then I wouldn't put creating lasers above his ability. Especially since we know that he can create cyborgs and possibly clone people.
I never expected to see that kind of steam punk in One Piece before, nor do I like it, but that's how it is.
 

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Pacifistas are not mindless puppets. One of them was even shown talking.

Vegapunk didn't duplicate Kizaru's ability into Pacifistas. It's more likely that he observed how Kizaru makes laser beams and used his brilliant mind to duplicate the effect with machines.

Kuma's ability is a little different. I don't think Vegapunk can duplicate it, or that it can be used to infuse objects with zoans. There's probably a different method in question.
I don´t get it, what is the difference??
 

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I don´t get it, what is the difference??
An example of that would be the development of sonar technology based on the study of the bat's use of sonic waves for localization.
 

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An example of that would be the development of sonar technology based on the study of the bat's use of sonic waves for localization.
I know what he meant, I simply want to know what he means by there being a difference between duplicating the ability and observing kizaru to duplicate the effect with machines.
 

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Because someone compared Kizaru's lasers with Kuma's repel abilities. If Vegapunk could have duplicated Kizaru's ability, then he could have duplicated Kuma's ability too.
Which I don't think it is possible.
Pacifistas are only mimicking Kizaru's lasers with the use of advanced technology. My guess is, Vegapunk simply got an idea when he saw Kizaru's laser, and then worked on a device that could enable Pacifistas to shoot them.
But I also think that shooting lasers has something to do with a living tissue. Pacifistas are half human after all. And there is probably a reason why Marine battleships still use normal cannons instead of lasers.
 

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So then, question of the day: What would happen if one of Moria's Zombies ate a devil fruit?

My guess is that as long as they haven't already eaten a fruit they should be fine because they are only tools of the Shadow Fruit and are being affected by it. But they do not control the actual power because they didn't directly eat the Shadow Fruit. The shadow that is inside each zombie is just a normal shadow that has been stolen by the Shadow Fruit.
 
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Assuming that what I said was true, maybe Vegapunk finds it easier to place Kizaru's laser in the Pacisfista instead of Kuma's paws or has not yet been able to develop this technique for fighting purposes. Also it may be more difficult for mindless puppets such as the pacifista to fully use Kuma's repulsion power as opposed to simply shooting Kizaru's lasers. As Gecko Moria pointed out, it would be more difficult to deal with a berserk Pacifista that can accidently send you flying for three days than one that shoots laser.
It may also be that what Vegapunk plans as a perfect pacisfista is what you just proposed i.e. an exact copy of Kuma(or why not an Admiral):s
Kuma's paws that give him the "deflecting ability" is a result of the Devil Fruit he ate and not a customization by Vegapunk. Lasers would not be that difficult for someone like Vegapunk (merely intensifying light, laser guns exist in our world!) but Kuma's ability is different because it comes solely from a Devil Fruit.

So then, question of the day: What would happen if one of Moria's Zombies ate a devil fruit?

My guess is that as long as they haven't already eaten a fruit they should be fine because they are only tools of the Shadow Fruit and are being affected by it. But they do not control the actual power because they didn't directly eat the Shadow Fruit. The shadow that is inside each zombie is just a normal shadow that has been stolen by the Shadow Fruit.
IMO the same thing would happen as with any other person. The zombie (provided he hasn't eaten a Devil Fruit previously) will gain the powers of the Devil Fruit he has now eaten. They could be considered as "victims" of the Kage Kage No Mi, but they haven't actually eaten it so they should be OK.
 

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IMO the same thing would happen as with any other person. The zombie (provided he hasn't eaten a Devil Fruit previously) will gain the powers of the Devil Fruit he has now eaten. They could be considered as "victims" of the Kage Kage No Mi, but they haven't actually eaten it so they should be OK.
This leads to my follow up question:

What about Doppleman?

Doppleman is Moria's shadow and the guy has shown that he can directly influence the physical world. Which in turn means that he should be able to eat stuff.

Basicly Doppleman is a normal shadow who was a victim of the Kage Kage No Mi. Doppleman also doesn't directly control the Devil Fruit itself nor did Doppleman eat the Kage Kage No Mi it is simply influenced by it. However it is the shadow of the person who did(Moria). So he is a part of Moria which should mean that he can't eat a DF(otherwise he'll explode), despite never directly eating one.
 
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This leads to my follow up question:

What about Doppleman?

Doppleman is Moria's shadow and the guy has shown that he can directly influence the physical world. Which in turn means that he should be able to eat stuff.

Basicly Doppleman is a normal shadow who was a victim of the Kage Kage No Mi. Doppleman also doesn't directly control the Devil Fruit itself nor did Doppleman eat the Kage Kage No Mi it is simply influenced by it. However it is the shadow of the person who did(Moria). So he is a part of Moria which should mean that he can't eat a DF, despite never directly eating one.
Doppelman is Moria's shadow and his ability to have influence on the physical world is a power of Moria's Kage Kage No Mi. You're correct in saying "Doppleman also doesn't directly control the Devil Fruit itself nor did Doppleman eat the Kage Kage No Mi it is simply influenced by it". While in a physical form he probably could eat things but they would probably pass through him and/or have no effect as he is still nothing more than a shadow. Therefore, any DF he eats will have no effect, like you have stated.
 

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Doppelman is Moria's shadow and his ability to have influence on the physical world is a power of Moria's Kage Kage No Mi. You're correct in saying "Doppleman also doesn't directly control the Devil Fruit itself nor did Doppleman eat the Kage Kage No Mi it is simply influenced by it". While in a physical form he probably could eat things but they would probably pass through him and/or have no effect as he is still nothing more than a shadow. Therefore, any DF he eats will have no effect, like you have stated.
But if he can physicly affect the world by punching it and causing damage in general. He should in turn have physical mass which means that he should be able to eat Devil Fruits.

For instance Robin's hands did not pass through Doppleman when Moria switched with him. Which means he has physical mass. And should be able to eat an object.

And while he is nothing but a shadow you can't deny the fact that we know things as inanimate as gun's can eat DF's. The object doesn't even HAVE a mouth.

Want a straight answer to see if Doppleman would gain the abilities of a DF or would he simply explode(or whatever it is that happens to people that eat two DF's). Need to make sure my logic is correct on this one.
 
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But if he can physicly affect the world by punching it and causing damage in general. He should in turn have physical mass which means that he should be able to eat Devil Fruits.

For instance Robin's hands did not pass through Doppleman when Moria switched with him. Which means he has physical mass. And should be able to eat an object.

And while he is nothing but a shadow you can't deny the fact that we know things as inanimate as gun's can eat DF's. The object doesn't even HAVE a mouth.

Want a straight answer to see if Doppleman would gain the abilities of a DF or would he simply explode(or whatever it is that happens to people that eat two DF's).
Yes, Doppelman can indeed attack and cause damage when physical but he is still an intangible object in reality. Guns are different because they actually exist physically. Doppelman only exists physically because of the Kage Kage No Mi's power and I guess that he can't carry out any other function other they battle.
 

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Yes, Doppelman can indeed attack and cause damage when physical but he is still an intangible object in reality. Guns are different because they actually exist physically. Doppelman only exists physically because of the Kage Kage No Mi's power and I guess that he can't carry out any other function other they battle.
Yes and when physical even if it is only temporary he should be able to eat objects. Because while physical he can interact with the world around him and influence it.
 
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Im Preaty sure i saw wings on Laftie, that would also explaing how he got to the meating without being noticed, and if thats his power, well there are many superppl (good and bad) with that power eg Archangel of x-men, Sephiroth and all the jenova project test subjects (allthought they only had one) Birdman, Hawkman and Hawkgirl etc etc etc
 

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Yes and when physical even if it is only temporary he should be able to eat objects. Because while physical he can interact with the world around him and influence it.
Doppelman may be able to eat objects when physical but IMO it will have no effect as Doppelman is not actually a physical being in reality. A shadow is still a shadow, Moria's powers allow him to physically manifest shadows but they still retain their natural properties.
 
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