Oh Pudding Memo memo no mi, and Viola's giro giro are also great options
I forgot a lot of interesting fruits, so decide to list* them here so you can click the link and check the ones youd like to pick. (source : picked the lists from wikia)
Horu Horu no Mi: A man who can effortlessly and quickly conduct a sex change on you, when you are perfectly happy with the gender you already have, is an extremely dangerous man.
Not only that, he could potentially shut down your immune system and screw up your metabolism. Could probably start Apoptosis(when your body willingly destroys cells) and have it so it doesn't balance out and continues to just kill cells.
The "hana hana no mi" is also incredibly hax. Fortunately for others, Nico Robin is just a weak woman.
The potential is endless:
- 360° eyesight by popping eyes everywhere
- Imagine a zoro really using 8-10-100 swords or a 1000 legs "diable jambe"
- You can potentially become a naruto & do a 1000 kage bunshin no jutsu.
- You can duplicate your nails to form a defensive wall.
- ...
In the hands of a rokushiki user or anyone with haki, this fruit is unstoppable.
But there are other hax devil fruits:
- The one hate by Jewelry Bonney. She can turn anyone into a child.
- Apoo who is basically attacking at the speed of sound and the attack is invisible for what we have seen. Even Kizaru was surprised & he might be the fastest character in the manga.
The "hana hana no mi" is also incredibly hax. Fortunately for others, Nico Robin is just a weak woman.
The potential is endless:
- 360° eyesight by popping eyes everywhere
- Imagine a zoro really using 8-10-100 swords or a 1000 legs "diable jambe"
- You can potentially become a naruto & do a 1000 kage bunshin no jutsu.
- You can duplicate your nails to form a defensive wall.
- ...
In the hands of a rokushiki user or anyone with haki, this fruit is unstoppable.
Robin's fruit is very impressive, there is; however, the unfortunate fact that she receives the damage and effects that her limbs incur. If she has 1000 limbs, there are one thousand more limbs to cut into. And unlike, say, Naruto's clones, Robin's limbs require her active control. The fruit is limited by the focus required to utilise so many limbs, and the fact that the more of her there is, the easier she is as a target.
Robin's fruit is very impressive, there is; however, the unfortunate fact that she receives the damage and effects that her limbs incur. If she has 1000 limbs, there are one thousand more limbs to cut into. And unlike, say, Naruto's clones, Robin's limbs require her active control. The fruit is limited by the focus required to utilise so many limbs, and the fact that the more of her there is, the easier she is as a target.
Assuming you wish to break said limbs, but if you only wish to cause damage there isn't much of a problem. We've seen that Robin sustains damage from her limbs, even oversized limbs are still flesh and blood, and they make for much easier targets. However, it isn't just physical damage, but it makes massive targets for the effect of devil fruits. Anyone with a decently powerful attack could cause heavy damage, I'd be pretty worried about putting limbs out there.
Now that I think About it.
What if the limbs are imbued with haki to vergo's level, where the whole limb or limbs become completly powerful haki imbued, I guess that could be troublesome.
I still believe Goro Goro no mi is the strongest logia and one of the strongest fruits out there.
I do not think kizaru moves at the speed of light like many of you believe, but if it is the case, Enel should move as fast as kizaru since lightening is light.
One more thing it's temperature, Fire is 980 °F to 2,200 °F , Lava is 1,292 to 2,192 °F, Lightening is 53,540 °F.
So technically speaking goro goro no mi = Pika pika no mi + magu magu no mi.
I still believe Goro Goro no mi is the strongest logia and one of the strongest fruits out there.
I do not think kizaru moves at the speed of light like many of you believe, but if it is the case, Enel should move as fast as kizaru since lightening is light.
One more thing it's temperature, Fire is 980 °F to 2,200 °F , Lava is 1,292 to 2,192 °F, Lightening is 53,540 °F.
So technically speaking goro goro no mi = Pika pika no mi + magu magu no mi.
I would never dispute how OP Goro Goro no mi is... The fruit is very broken. I would imagine if someone like Shanks or Garp had that, all I can think of is... Ouch.
I still believe Goro Goro no mi is the strongest logia and one of the strongest fruits out there.
I do not think kizaru moves at the speed of light like many of you believe, but if it is the case, Enel should move as fast as kizaru since lightening is light.
One more thing it's temperature, Fire is 980 °F to 2,200 °F , Lava is 1,292 to 2,192 °F, Lightening is 53,540 °F.
So technically speaking goro goro no mi = Pika pika no mi + magu magu no mi.
Your references are the ones from our world. In one piece, lighning is relatively weak. If it was strong and or fast enough, Nami would be one of the strongest characters in the serie.
I would never dispute how OP Goro Goro no mi is... The fruit is very broken. I would imagine if someone like Shanks or Garp had that, all I can think of is... Ouch.
Actually I'm not so sure it would do too much for their standing.
Their tier is full of people who have maxed out their Premonition and Armament Haki, basic use of Goro Goro no Mi wouldn't make much difference against other people their level.
And there's no guarantee they would be able to use the Goro Goro no Mi better than Enel used it.
Enel was just individually weak outside of his fruit. Other than that he used his fruit amazingly.
Goro Goro no Mi isn't in the hands of somebody with independent godly strength.
The lightning fruit achieves higher heat levels than the Magma fruit or the Fire fruit.
Luckily, due to the Premonition Haki and Armament Haki, you can still land hits on Kizaru so that person is still within reach of an ass-kicking.
I agree its amongst the most hax.
Everybody who watches OnePiece can see that the Lightning Fruit is one of the best in the series without even a second thought.
Robin even calls it "One of the Invincible Powers" in the manga iirc.
Not only that, he could potentially shut down your immune system and screw up your metabolism. Could probably start Apoptosis(when your body willingly destroys cells) and have it so it doesn't balance out and continues to just kill cells.
He can change your sexuality in theory.
He could tamper with the testosterone hormones back & forth.
He could mess with the hormones that make you grow chin hair etc. and do it to women.
He can give you the hormones that make you sweat excessively,
Not really.
If you want to get scientific,
The Speed of Light is 299 792 458 m / s
The Speed of Lightning is 61 100 m/s
On Wikipedia it is stated how lightning can travel at speeds of 220,000 km/h, which is
61 100 m/s
So Light is just heavens above Lightning in Speed ability.
And Light itself is incredibly hot, and is pretty explosive when focused into a concentrated beam.
I still believe Goro Goro no mi is the strongest logia and one of the strongest fruits out there.
I do not think kizaru moves at the speed of light like many of you believe, but if it is the case, Enel should move as fast as kizaru since lightening is light.
One more thing it's temperature, Fire is 980 °F to 2,200 °F , Lava is 1,292 to 2,192 °F, Lightening is 53,540 °F.
So technically speaking goro goro no mi = Pika pika no mi + magu magu no mi.
Wow lightning is light is quite the stupidest thing I heard in a while. Lightning is electric discharge while light is pure energy. And as mentioned light is the fastest thing while lightning is much slower. About the heat thing since Kizaru is pure energy touching him would mean you get a lot of thermal energy as well but since his energy density is not defined it's not clear how hot he would be. I agree with Goro goro no mi beeing superior to the magu magu no mi but the pika pika no mi is mich stronger.
Just to set the record straight, like Ace4 said, Lightning isn't the same as light. Lightning which is made of electrical charges (usually electrons which is the lightest of all the charged particles between protons, ions etc.) has a maximum speed of about 1/10th the speed of light. And the heat that comes with lightning is only a result of the charged particles heating up and ionizing the air around it as it moves through (if it was in a vacuum there wouldn't be much to be heated by the lightning as its energy would be contained plainly in the charged particles).
Its still true though that throughout history lightning has been associated with gods (Jupiter, Zeus, etc.) And that was pointed out in the Skypea arc; and there isn't much distinction given to the differences between light, lightning and heat since advanced study of physics and molecular structure only started more recently in history.
Anyways, I think out of the logia abilities, whichever is the strongest will be whatever Oda says it is simply because the abilities don't strictly have to follow the laws of physics. For example, we seem to have a darkness fruit, levitation fruit(?), and a gravity fruit(?) which are basically all effects of the same thing. Same with gas fruit, smoke fruit and flame fruit to some extent.
I don't think you can compare the heat from lightning with the heat of flame or the heat of magma though because they're due to different kinds of heat transfer (diffusion, convection, and conduction respectively)
Anyways, I think out of the logia abilities, whichever is the strongest will be whatever Oda says it is simply because the abilities don't strictly have to follow the laws of physics. For example, we seem to have a darkness fruit, levitation fruit(?), and a gravity fruit(?) which are basically all effects of the same thing. Same with gas fruit, smoke fruit and flame fruit to some extent.
Blackbeard can create darkness so dense that it has it's own gravitational pull. Fujitora's fruit is different, since it can manipulate gravity in a certain area. Increase it, decrease it... Well, I imagine, anyway. As for leviation, best explanation is - it magically allows stuff to fly.
Those other examples aren't really that bad in comparison to ice/sbow logia. Snow is just tiny pieces of ice. Anything Monet was able to do, Aokiji should have been able to do as well.
Blackbeard can create darkness so dense that it has it's own gravitational pull. Fujitora's fruit is different, since it can manipulate gravity in a certain area. Increase it, decrease it... Well, I imagine, anyway. As for leviation, best explanation is - it magically allows stuff to fly.
That's basically what I was trying to point out because darkness is literally the absence of light and the theme that Blackbeard uses is an aspect of gravity like a black hole where the strong pull that even light cant escape is due to the gravitational field of a large amount of dense matter. His darkness ability seems to center more on being able to suck away stuff (pull things to himself, fruit users' abilities out of them, etc.) than an actual darkness like moria's shadow fruit.
Because of this, I originally thought when the darkness fruit was revealed that it was gravity in its entirety which turned out not to be the case (that was before Shiki's levitation was introduced). If there really was a fruit that controlled gravity in all of its aspects it would really be the most hax fruit because being able to control gravity to the extent of creating a black hole would mean you could also control time (because of special relativity effects).
But it seems Oda created different fruits like noro noro (slowing down time), darkness (black hole/sucking away stuff), levitation (reducing gravitational effects), kilo kilo (reducing mass/weight), and now a localized gravitational type fruit so as to assign different degrees of power to different people without making any one of them too overpowered as an ability.
Those other examples aren't really that bad in comparison to ice/sbow logia. Snow is just tiny pieces of ice. Anything Monet was able to do, Aokiji should have been able to do as well.
Agree almost completely with that... If Aokiji trained his ability well enough, with some extra effort he should be able to even create a snowstorm; specially considering that half of Punk Hazard's climate (including the constant snowstorms there) were caused by Aokiji. Only difference between those two was the compactness of the ice particles.
Oh! I didn't know lightening didn't travel at the speed of light! :O
But on what you said just now, it is not true light cannot escape from a black hole, It's true it can't escape but it doesn't get absorbed either, it becomes immobile for millenia, as there is an equal pull from the black hole towards it, as the pull from the light to "get away" from the black hole.