Discussion Devil Fruit Discussion Thread

[Erinyes]

Oh Pudding Memo memo no mi, and Viola's giro giro are also great options

I forgot a lot of interesting fruits, so decide to list* them here so you can click the link and check the ones youd like to pick. (source : picked the lists from wikia)

*listed only canon fruits.

paramecia

Paramecia fruits​

• Gomu Gomu no Mi (English versions: Gum-Gum Fruit): Turns the user's body into rubber, giving them the power to stretch, bounce, and inflate; as well as make them immune to electricity and near impervious to blunt-force attacks and bullets. Eaten by Monkey D. Luffy.
• Bara Bara no Mi (English versions: Chop-Chop Fruit): Allows the user to split their body into separate pieces, which the user can manipulate and make fly through the air. It also makes them immune to slashing attacks. Eaten by Buggy.
• Sube Sube no Mi (English versions: Slip-Slip Fruit/Smooth-Smooth Fruit): Makes the user's skin extremely smooth and slippery, causing things to slide off them. Eaten by Alvida.
• Bomu Bomu no Mi (English versions: Bomb-Bomb Fruit/Boom-Boom Fruit): Allows the user to create explosions from their body, as well as give explosive properties to their bodily secretions. Also makes the user immune to explosions. Eaten by Gem.
• Kiro Kiro no Mi (English versions: Kilo-Kilo Fruit): Allows the user to increase or decrease their body weight at will. Eaten by Mikita.
• Hana Hana no Mi (English versions: Flower-Flower Fruit): Allows the user to sprout duplicates of their body parts from any nearby surface. Eaten by Nico Robin.
• Doru Doru no Mi (English versions: Wax-Wax Fruit): Allows the user to create and control candle wax. Eaten by Galdino.
• Baku Baku no Mi (English versions: Munch-Munch Fruit): Allows the user to eat anything and transform their body to match the qualities of what they've recently eaten. Eaten by Wapol.
• Mane Mane no Mi (English versions: Clone-Clone Fruit): Allows the user to transform into a physical lookalike of another person. Eaten by Kurozumi Higurashi until her death and later eaten by Bentham.
• Supa Supa no Mi (English versions: Dice-Dice Fruit): Allows the user to transform any part of their body into a blade, thus gaining slashing abilities and making their skin as hard as steel. Eaten by Daz Bonez.
• Toge Toge no Mi (English versions: Spike-Spike Fruit): Allows the user to grow spikes from their body. Eaten by Zala.
• Ori Ori no Mi (English versions: Cage-Cage Fruit/Bind-Bind Fruit): Allows the user to create iron bindings on their opponents. Eaten by Hina.
• Bane Bane no Mi (English versions: Spring-Spring Fruit/Boing-Boing Fruit): Allows the user to turn their limbs into springs. Eaten by Bellamy.
• Ito Ito no Mi (English versions: String-String Fruit): Allows the user to create and control strings. Eaten by Donquixote Doflamingo.
• Noro Noro no Mi (English versions: Slow-Slow Fruit): Allows the user to emit special photons that slow down anything they touch for 30 seconds. Eaten by Foxy.
• Doa Doa no Mi (English versions: Door-Door Fruit): Allows the user to create and open doors on anything, including walls, living beings, and the even the air itself. Eaten by Blueno.
• Awa Awa no Mi (English versions: Bubble-Bubble Fruit): Allows the user to create and control soap bubbles that can clean anything, including strength. Eaten by Kalifa.
• Beri Beri no Mi (English versions: Berry-Berry Fruit): Allows the user to split their body into many spheres. Eaten by Very Good.
• Sabi Sabi no Mi (English versions: Rust-Rust Fruit): Allows the user to rust anything they touch, including organic material. Eaten by Shu.
• Shari Shari no Mi (English versions: Wheel-Wheel Fruit): Allows the user to turn their limbs into wheels. Eaten by Sharinguru.
• Horo Horo no Mi (English versions: Hollow-Hollow Fruit): Allows the user to create and control ghosts. The ghosts cause despair in the people they touch and are capable of self-destructing. The user can also make their own ghost leave their body. Eaten by Perona.
• Yomi Yomi no Mi (English versions: Revive-Revive Fruit): Allows the user to return to life after dying once already, as well as allow the user to make their returned soul temporarily leave their reanimated body. Eaten by Brook.
• Kage Kage no Mi (English versions: Shadow-Shadow Fruit): Allows the user to manifest and control shadows. Eaten by Gecko Moria.
• Suke Suke no Mi (English versions: Clear-Clear Fruit): Allows the user to become invisible, as well as make anything they touch invisible. Eaten by Absalom until his death and later eaten by Shiryu.
• Nikyu Nikyu no Mi (English versions: Paw-Paw Fruit): Gives the user paw pads on their hands that can repel anything they touch. Eaten by Bartholomew Kuma.
• Ope Ope no Mi (English versions: Op-Op Fruit): Allows the user to generate a sphere-like room, inside which they can manipulate anything. Eaten by Trafalgar D. Water Law.
• Shiro Shiro no Mi (English versions: Castle-Castle Fruit): Allows the user to become a living fortress equipped with cannons, as well as letting them shrink people and objects and house them inside their body. Eaten by Capone Bege.
• Wara Wara no Mi (English versions: Straw-Straw Fruit): Allows the user to create and control straw. They can attach other people's life forces to straw dolls, allowing the damage they take to transfer to the dolls and the people connected to them. Eaten by Basil Hawkins.
• Mero Mero no Mi (English versions: Love-Love Fruit): Allows the user to turn people that feel attraction for them into stone. Eaten by Boa Hancock.
• Doku Doku no Mi (English versions: Venom-Venom Fruit): Allows the user to create and control poison. Eaten by Magellan.
• Horu Horu no Mi (English versions: Horm-Horm Fruit): Allows the user to create special hormones and inject them into a persons body, changing their biochemistry. Eaten by Emporio Ivankov.
• Choki Choki no Mi (English versions: Snip-Snip Fruit): Allows the user to transform parts of their body into scissors. Anything cut by these scissors briefly gains the properties of paper. Eaten by Inazuma.
• Gura Gura no Mi (English versions: Tremor-Tremor Fruit): Allows the user to create quakes and shockwaves. Considered to be the most powerful Paramecia. Eaten by Edward Newgate and later stolen from him by Marshall D. Teach upon his death.
• Kira Kira no Mi: Allows the user to transform their body into diamond. Eaten by Jozu.
• Woshu Woshu no Mi (English versions: Wash-Wash Fruit): Allows the user to literally wash and fold a person as if they were laundry. It also makes the victim's heart cleaner. Eaten by Tsuru.
• Fuwa Fuwa no Mi (English versions: Float-Float Fruit): Allows the user to fly and make non-living things they touch levitate. Eaten by Shiki.
• Mato Mato no Mi (English versions: Mark-Mark Fruit): Allows the user to mark a person as their target by touching them so that any weapon thrown with that same hand will chase after the marked target. Eaten by Vander Decken IX.
• Fuku Fuku no Mi (English versions: Garb-Garb Jutsu): Allows the user to create clothing. Eaten by Kin'emon.
• Hobi Hobi no Mi (English versions: Hobby-Hobby Fruit): Allows the user to turn people into subservient toys, simultaneously erasing any memory of the victim from the minds of others. It also halts the user's aging. Eaten by Sugar.
• Buki Buki no Mi (English versions: Arms-Arms Fruit): Allows the user to transform their body into any kind of weapon. Eaten by Baby 5.
• Guru Guru no Mi (English versions: Spin-Spin Fruit): Allows the user to make any part of their body spin like a propeller. Eaten by Buffalo.
• Beta Beta no Mi (English versions: Stick-Stick Fruit): Allows the user to create and control mucus. Eaten by Trebol.
• Zushi Zushi no Mi: Allows the user to manipulate gravity. Eaten by Issho.
• Bari Bari no Mi (English versions: Barrier-Barrier Fruit): Allows the user to create barriers. Eaten by Kurozumi Semimaru until his death and later eaten by Bartolomeo.
• Nui Nui no Mi (English versions: Stitch-Stitch Power): Allows the user to stitch things together. Eaten by Leo.
• Giro Giro no Mi (English versions: Glare-Glare Fruit): Allows the user to see through solid objects, as well as read people's minds and memories. Eaten by Viola.
• Ato Ato no Mi (English versions: Art-Art Fruit): Allows the user to transform people and objects into art. Eaten by Giolla.
• Jake Jake no Mi (English versions: Jacket-Jacket Fruit): Allows the user to transform into a jacket and control the body of the person wearing them. Eaten by Kelly Funk.
• Pamu Pamu no Mi (English versions: Pop-Pop Fruit): Allows the user to expand and rupture their body, as well as any inorganic object they touch. Eaten by Gladius.
• Sui Sui no Mi (English versions: Swim-Swim Fruit): Allows the user to swim freely in the ground and walls. Eaten by Senor Pink.
• Ton Ton no Mi (English versions: Ton-Ton Fruit): Allows the user to drastically increase their body weight. Eaten by Machvise.
• Hira Hira no Mi (English versions: Ripple-Ripple Fruit): Allows the user to give anything they touch the properties of fabric, making it thin, flexible, and fluttering. Eaten by Diamante.
• Ishi Ishi no Mi (English versions: Stone-Stone Fruit): Allows the user to assimilate into and control stone. Eaten by Pica.
• Nagi Nagi no Mi (English versions: Calm-Calm Fruit): Allows the user to nullify sounds. Eaten by Donquixote Rosinante until his death.
• Chiyu Chiyu no Mi (English versions: Heal-Heal Fruit): Allows the user to heal people's wounds. Eaten by Mansherry.
• Soru Soru no Mi (English versions: Soul-Soul Fruit): Allows the user to extract people's souls and use them to bring objects to life. Eaten by Carmel until her death and later eaten by Charlotte Linlin.
• Mira Mira no Mi (English versions: Mirror-Mirror Fruit): Allows the user to create mirrors that reflect attacks and act as entrances to the Mirro-World. Eaten by Charlotte Brûlée.
• Pero Pero no Mi (English versions: Lick-Lick Fruit): Allows the user to create and control candy. Eaten by Charlotte Perospero.
• Bisu Bisu no Mi (English versions: Bis-Bis Fruit): Allows the user to create and control biscuits. Eaten by Charlotte Cracker.
• Bata Bata no Mi (English versions: Butter-Butter Fruit): Allows the user to create and control butter. Eaten by Charlotte Galette.
• Buku Buku no Mi (English versions: Book-Book Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate books, as well as trap people inside them. Eaten by Charlotte Mont-d'Or.
• Kuri Kuri no Mi (English versions: Cream-Cream Fruit): Allows the user to create and control cream. Eaten by Charlotte Opera.
• Shibo Shibo no Mi (English versions: Wring-Wring Fruit): Allows the user to drain liquid from people and objects. Eaten by Charlotte Smoothie.
• Memo Memo no Mi (English versions: Memo-Memo Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate people's memories. Eaten by Charlotte Pudding.
• Mochi Mochi no Mi (English versions: Mochi-Mochi Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into mochi. Eaten by Charlotte Katakuri. This Devil Fruit is noted to be a "special Paramecia".
• Hoya Hoya no Mi (English versions: Puff-Puff Fruit): Allows the user to summon a genie from their body. Eaten by Charlotte Daifuku.
• Netsu Netsu no Mi (English versions: Heat-Heat Fruit): Allows the user to emit high heat from their body. Eaten by Charlotte Oven.
• Kuku Kuku no Mi (English versions: Cook-Cook Fruit): Allows the user to transform objects into food. Eaten by Streusen.
• Gocha Gocha no Mi: Allows the user to fuse themselves with other people. Eaten by Charlotte Newshi.
• Oshi Oshi no Mi (English versions: Push-Push Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate the ground as if it were made of clay. Eaten by Morley.
• Kobu Kobu no Mi (English versions: Pump-Pump Fruit): Allows the user to rally people into fighting and awaken their latent potential. Eaten by Belo Betty.
• Toki Toki no Mi (English versions: Time-Time Ability): Allows the user to send themselves and others forward in time. Eaten by Kozuki Toki until her death.
• Juku Juku no Mi (English versions: Ripe-Ripe Jutsu): Allows the user to mature and decay inanimate objects. Eaten by Shinobu.

Unnamed Fruits

• Eustass Kid's fruit which allows him to manipulate magnetic forces.
• Jewelry Bonney's fruit which allows her to manipulate the age of any person, including herself.
• Scratchmen Apoo's fruit which allows him to morph body parts into instruments and use music as a weapon.
• Urouge's fruit which allows him to convert damage taken into strength, resulting in expanding muscles.
• Blamenco's fruit which creates pockets in his body that can store things such as a giant hammer.
• Sanjuan Wolf's fruit that makes him bigger than regular giants.
• Kurozumi Kanjuro's fruit that allows him to bring whatever he draws to life. Like Kin'emon, he refers to it as sorcery.
• Tama's fruit that allows her to create dango from her cheeks that make any animal that eats them tame and subservient.

zoan

Zoan fruits

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Ushi Ushi no Mi (Ox) series

• Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Bison (English versions: Ox-Ox Fruit/Ox-Ox Fruit, Bison Model/Ox-Ox Fruit, Bison Form) - Allows the user to become a full bison or a half-bison hybrid. Eaten by Dalton.
• Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Giraffe (English versions: English versions: Ox-Ox Fruit, Giraffe Model/Ox-Ox Fruit, Model: Giraffe) - Allows the user to become a full giraffe or a half-giraffe hybrid. Eaten by Kaku.

Hito Hito no Mi (Human) series

• Hito Hito no Mi (English versions: Human-Human Fruit) - Allows any animal that eats it to get human characteristics like Tony Tony Chopper did when he ate the fruit.
• Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Daibutsu (English versions: Human-Human Fruit, Daibutsu Model/Human-Human Fruit, Model: Buddha) - Allows the user to become a Daibutsu (a giant gold Buddha) or a half-Daibutsu hybrid. Eaten by Sengoku.

Tori Tori no Mi (Bird) series

• Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Falcon (English version: Tweet-Tweet Fruit, Falcon Type/Bird-Bird Fruit, Model: Falcon) - Allows the user to become a full falcon or a half-falcon hybrid. Eaten by Pell.
• Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Phoenix - Allows the user to become a full phoenix or a half-phoenix hybrid. Eaten by Marco.
• Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Albatross - Allows the user to become a full albatross or a half-albatross hybrid. Eaten by Morgans.

Inu Inu no Mi (Dog) series

• Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Dachshund (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit/Mutt-Mutt Fruit, Dachshund Form/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Dachshund) - Allows the user to become a full dachshund or a half-dachshund hybrid. In the case of Babe's bazooka-like gun Lassoo, he became a dachshund/gun hybrid.
• Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Jackal (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Jackal Strike/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Jackal/Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Jackal Model) - Allows the user to become a full jackal or a half-jackal hybrid. Eaten by Chaka.
• Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Wolf (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Wolf Model/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Wolf) - Allows the user to become a full wolf or a half-wolf hybrid similar to a werewolf. Eaten by Jabra.
• Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Tanuki - Allows the user to become a full tanuki or a half-tanuki hybrid. In the case of Tenguyama Hitetsu's teapot Bunbuku, he becomes a tanuki/teapot hybrid.
• Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Kyubi no Kitsune (English version: Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Nine Tailed Fox) - Allows the user to become a full nine-tailed fox or a half-nine-tailed fox hybrid, and allows the user to become perfect clones of other people. Eaten by Catarina Devon.

Neko Neko no Mi (Cat) series

• Neko Neko no Mi, Model: Leopard (English version: Cat-Cat Fruit, Model: Leopard) - Allows the user to become a full leopard or a half-leopard hybrid. Eaten by Rob Lucci.

Zou Zou no Mi (Elephant) series

• Zou Zou no Mi (English version: Elephant-Elephant Fruit/Eleph-Eleph Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full elephant or a half-elephant hybrid. In the case of Spandam's sword Funkfreed, he becomes an elephant/sword hybrid.
• Zou Zou no Mi, Model: Mammoth (English version: Elephant-Elephant Fruit, Model: Mammoth) - Allows the user to become a full mammoth or a half-mammoth hybrid. Eaten by Jack.

Ryu Ryu no Mi (Dragon) series

• Ryu Ryu no Mi, Model: Allosaurus (English version: Dragon-Dragon Fruit, Model: Allosaurus) - Allows the user to become a full Allosaurus or a half-Allosaurus hybrid. Eaten by X Drake.
• Ryu Ryu no Mi, Model: Spinosaurus (English version: Dragon-Dragon Fruit, Model: Spinosaurus) - Allows the user to become a full Spinosaurus or a half-Spinosaurus hybrid. Eaten by Page One.
• Ryu Ryu no Mi, Model: Pteranodon (English version: Dragon-Dragon Fruit, Model: Pteranodon) - Allows the user to become a full Pteranodon or a half-Pteranodon hybrid. Eaten by King.
• Ryu Ryu no Mi, Model: Brachiosaurus (English version: Dragon-Dragon Fruit, Model: Brachiosaurus) - Allows the user to become a full Brachiosaurus or a half-Brachiosaurus hybrid. Eaten by Queen.

Hebi Hebi no Mi (Snake) series

• Hebi Hebi no Mi, Model: King Cobra (English version: Snake-Snake Fruit, Model: King Cobra) - Allows the user to become a full king cobra or a half-king cobra hybrid. Eaten by Boa Marigold.
• Hebi Hebi no Mi, Model: Anaconda (English version: Snake-Snake Fruit, Model: Anaconda) - Allows the user to become a full anaconda or a half-anaconda hybrid. Eaten by Boa Sandersonia.
• Hebi Hebi no Mi, Model: Yamata no Orochi (English version: Snake-Snake Fruit, Model: Yamata-no-Orochi) - Allows the user to become a full Yamata no Orochi or a half-Yamata no Orochi hybrid. Eaten by Kurozumi Orochi.

Sara Sara no Mi (Salamander) series

• Sara Sara no Mi, Model: Axolotl (English version: Sala-Sala Fruit, Model: Axolotl) - Allows the user to become a full axolotl or a half-axolotl hybrid. In the case of Caesar Clown's slime Smiley, it became an axolotl/slime hybrid until it's death.

Mushi Mushi no Mi (Bug) series

• Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Kabutomushi (English version: Bug-Bug Fruit, Model: Rhinoceros Beetle) - Allows the user to become a full rhinoceros beetle or a half-rhinoceros beetle hybrid. The user can also fly in either form. Eaten by Kabu.
• Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Suzumebachi (English version: Bug-Bug Fruit, Model: Hornet) - Allows the user to become a full hornet or a half-hornet hybrid. The user can also fly in either form. Eaten by Bian.

Single model series

• Mogu Mogu no Mi (English version: Diggy-Diggy Fruit/Mole-Mole Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full mole or a half-mole hybrid. The user can also dig underground. Eaten by Drophy.
• Uma Uma no Mi (English version: Horse-Horse Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full horse or a half-horse hybrid. In the case of Gan Fall's pet bird Pierre, he resembles a Pegasus.
• Kame Kame no Mi (English version: Turtle-Turtle Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full turtle or a half-turtle hybrid. In the case of Pekoms, he resembles a Tarasque

Unnamed Fruits

This section lists the Zoan Devil Fruits that haven't been identified yet.

• Minotaurus' fruit which allows him to take the form of a Holstein cow.
• Minokoala's fruit which allows him to take the form of a koala.
• Minorhinoceros' fruit which allows him to take the form of a rhinoceros.
• Minozebra's fruit which allows him to take the form of a zebra.
• Onigumo's fruit that lets him sprout spider-like arms from his back as well as grow a spider's abdomen.
• Dalmatian's fruit which allows him to turn into a dalmatian.
• Epoida's fruit which allows him to turn into a caterpillar.
• Minochihuahua's fruit which allows him to take the form of a chihuahua.
• Kaido's fruit which allows him to transform into an eastern dragon.

logia

Logia fruits​

• Moku Moku no Mi (English Versions: Smoke-Smoke Fruit/Plume-Plume Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into smoke. Eaten by Smoker.
• Suna Suna no Mi (English Versions: Sand-Sand Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into sand. The sand can dehydrate any non-metallic substance it touches. Eaten by Crocodile.
• Mera Mera no Mi (English Versions: Flame-Flame Fruit/Flare-Flare Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into fire. Eaten by Portgas D. Ace until his death and later eaten by Sabo.
• Goro Goro no Mi (English Versions: Rumble-Rumble Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into lightning. Eaten by Enel.
• Hie Hie no Mi (English Versions: Chilly-Chilly Fruit/Ice-Ice Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into ice. Eaten by Kuzan.
• Yami Yami no Mi (English Versions: Dark-Dark Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into darkness. The darkness has strong gravitational properties and the user has an infinite amount of space inside of their elemental body. Eaten by Marshall D. Teach.
• Pika Pika no Mi (English Versions: Glint-Glint Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into light. Eaten by Borsalino.
• Magu Magu no Mi (English Versions: Mag-Mag Fruit): Allows the user to create, create, and transform into magma. Eaten by Sakazuki.
• Numa Numa no Mi (English Versions: Swamp-Swamp Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into mud. The user is a "bottomless swamp", granting them an infinite amount of space inside their elemental body. The mud can take on the properties of quicksand. Eaten by Caribou.
• Gasu Gasu no Mi (English Versions: Gas-Gas Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into gas. Eaten by Caesar Clown.
• Yuki Yuki no Mi (English Versions: Snow-Snow Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into snow. Eaten by Monet until her death.

 

[hoeru]

Oh! I didn't know lightening didn't travel at the speed of light! :O

But on what you said just now, it is not true light cannot escape from a black hole, It's true it can't escape but it doesn't get absorbed either, it becomes immobile for millenia, as there is an equal pull from the black hole towards it, as the pull from the light to "get away" from the black hole.

kind like so

Uhm... No. Light has a constant speed, while a gravitational pull creates an acceleration. Light that doesn't get "swallowed" by black holes is bended, which is what creates an optical effect called "gravitation lense" (not only caused by black hole but by every massive stellar object).

Light does not become immobile. All that may happen is, that light is bended that much by a massive object that it "orbits" that object.

 

[Anduren]

Oh! I didn't know lightening didn't travel at the speed of light! :O

I don't believe it's common knowledge... at least in schools they use lightning most commonly for the example of comparing speed of light with speed of sound (seeing the flash before hearing the thunder).

But on what you said just now, it is not true light cannot escape from a black hole, It's true it can't escape but it doesn't get absorbed either, it becomes immobile for millenia, as there is an equal pull from the black hole towards it, as the pull from the light to "get away" from the black hole.

Actually, the best example I can think of is if you were trying to swim away from a whirlpool: If you swim faster than the whirlpool draws you in, you can get away; if you swim as fast as the whirlpool draws you in, you'll be swimming in place; and if you cant swim as fast as the whirlpool draws you in, you get sucked into it. In this case, you would be comparable to the light particle (photon) and the whirlpool center would be comparable to the black hole center. The point where light particles that are just flying by minding their own business can no longer escape the black hole's gravity is called the event horizon. So it all depends how close by the black hole the light is passing by.

Like hoeru said, if the light is passing by further away than the event horizon, it just get pulled in just a little and its path gets curved. If it passes by too close, the light particles fall in to the black hole and once something gets past the event horizon, not even light can move fast enough to get out which is where the black hole as a source of absolute darkness comes in.

Normally, I wouldn't think so much about physics as it applies to mangas but I remember even a long time ago Oda often took breaks to research what he was going to write about so I can imagine he wouldn't take these kinds of things too lightly when he creates abilities and such.

 

[sameel]

Woah...this thread has become a science lecture!

 

[MBVC]

^ Still way better than pseudo-science something like rubber is absolutely indestructible so this is the main reason for some people think that Luffy can eat as many df as he wants without exploding to dead.

I wonder how plasma fits into this, when I say plasma I think about the central core of nuclear fusion, quite different from fire, laser or electricity. In the anime I saw lots of green gas flowing around when Dragon used his power, I'm not sure whether it is kind of radioactive gas (Radon) or maybe the anime isn't reliable at all.

 

[Razh]

That's basically what I was trying to point out because darkness is literally the absence of light and the theme that Blackbeard uses is an aspect of gravity like a black hole where the strong pull that even light cant escape is due to the gravitational field of a large amount of dense matter. His darkness ability seems to center more on being able to suck away stuff (pull things to himself, fruit users' abilities out of them, etc.) than an actual darkness like moria's shadow fruit.

Because of this, I originally thought when the darkness fruit was revealed that it was gravity in its entirety which turned out not to be the case (that was before Shiki's levitation was introduced). If there really was a fruit that controlled gravity in all of its aspects it would really be the most hax fruit because being able to control gravity to the extent of creating a black hole would mean you could also control time (because of special relativity effects).

But it seems Oda created different fruits like noro noro (slowing down time), darkness (black hole/sucking away stuff), levitation (reducing gravitational effects), kilo kilo (reducing mass/weight), and now a localized gravitational type fruit so as to assign different degrees of power to different people without making any one of them too overpowered as an ability.

Yeah, I remember how couple of years ago I theorized that BB's fruit could be a lot more versatile than shown so far. If he was darkness and had control of it's density, there's no reason why he couldn't increase or decrease his mass and then be able to do similar stuff as Miss Valentine.
Or he could shoot projectiles made of darkness and call them Black Comet or something. Or at least extend the darkness in the form of a projectile.

I'm still hoping the fruit will show more powers next time Bb fights.

 

[Anduren]

^ Still way better than pseudo-science something like rubber is absolutely indestructible so this is the main reason for some people think that Luffy can eat as many df as he wants without exploding to dead.

Rubber is indeed versatile, but hardly indestructible. Actually, almost everything has, to some degree, an elastic (stretching and returning to same size) and plastic (stretching but not returning to same size) range of deforming when stretched... Its just that Rubber is most known for its elasticity and also its ability to insulate against electricity/lightning. I just think that if the breakdown of the body when eating two devil fruits is due to a molecular breakdown or something like that, being rubber probably wont save him. Its still a mystery what kind of body Blackbeard has too which made it possible for him to hold in 2 fruits.

I wonder how plasma fits into this, when I say plasma I think about the central core of nuclear fusion, quite different from fire, laser or electricity. In the anime I saw lots of green gas flowing around when Dragon used his power, I'm not sure whether it is kind of radioactive gas (Radon) or maybe the anime isn't reliable at all.

Having read this, I actually went back and watched that episode and sure enough, you're right... it does look like a greenish mist. I dunno if it's just a special effect they used or it has some kind of meaning. I wouldn't be surprised if it was like that as a hint to Dragon's ability and when it's actually revealed people can go back and say "so that's why it was like that at Loguetown!"

As for plasma, its just another fluid. The only difference between plasma, gas, and liquid is the amount of energy the molecules in the fluid has. When the molecules have so much energy that they start losing electrons and becoming ionized is when a gas becomes a plasma state (if I remember right).

 

[BetaRuler]

I was thinking on the subject of Monet and Aokiji, plus the whole "aren't DF's A, B and C similar?"

Isn't the difference between Aokiji and Monet's powers kind of that Aokiji could only form ice though? While Monet seemed more into making snow... They are similar if you looked at them scientifically I guess, but visually it seems to make more sense... Like looking at what Aokiji created, it was all proper solid Ice based, while everything Monet made seemed more Snow.

 

[Razh]

Just to be certain there's no confusion, this is what snow actually is:

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Ice crystals. Shitloads of them together are what makes snow. A person whose ability is to freeze stuff and turn himself into ice should be able to form anything from ice cubes and icyicles, to ice vapor and snow. That's what makes Monet's fruit a stretch. But it's not like I don't get Oda. He can't limit himself like that, otherwise there wouldn't be more than 5-6 logias existing.

I just hope we some day don't get to see some kind of stone or rock logia, featuring big pieces of rock, instead of tiny little rocks that Crocodile's sand logia reigns over.

 

[MBVC]

Rubber is indeed versatile, but hardly indestructible. Actually, almost everything has, to some degree, an elastic (stretching and returning to same size) and plastic (stretching but not returning to same size) range of deforming when stretched... Its just that Rubber is most known for its elasticity and also its ability to insulate against electricity/lightning. I just think that if the breakdown of the body when eating two devil fruits is due to a molecular breakdown or something like that, being rubber probably wont save him. Its still a mystery what kind of body Blackbeard has too which made it possible for him to hold in 2 fruits.



Having read this, I actually went back and watched that episode and sure enough, you're right... it does look like a greenish mist. I dunno if it's just a special effect they used or it has some kind of meaning. I wouldn't be surprised if it was like that as a hint to Dragon's ability and when it's actually revealed people can go back and say "so that's why it was like that at Loguetown!"

As for plasma, its just another fluid. The only difference between plasma, gas, and liquid is the amount of energy the molecules in the fluid has. When the molecules have so much energy that they start losing electrons and becoming ionized is when a gas becomes a plasma state (if I remember right).

1) Here is a toy experiment: send a time-bomb inside a black-hole, the bomb will explode after it passes the even horizon but nothing comes out all thanks to gravity, maybe BB's darkness fruit compresses the power of the other df inside his body in a sense that these 2 df aren't coexisting together, it's more like big fishes eat small fishes in term of df technically speaking hence this means BB's darkness logica has the special ability "eats" WB's quake df, so WB's quake df is "inside" BB's dark logica which is inside BB body, thus the paradox is solved and this proves dark logica is indeed unique of all type logica.


2) Well, we could predict some information from the given one. For example, after the appearances of Aokiji and Kizaru, some of us predicted that Akainu is also a df user and his df should be logica type, some people even went further to state magma due to his "red dog" title since blue ~ ice and yellow ~ light (just a metaphor). If Dragon's df isn't wind then his df has the ability to transform every fluid types into plasmas. On the lowest left corner of page 13 in chapter 99, the lighting stopped the sword less than 1cm from the straw hat, I'm not sure how wind could control lighting to this godly accurate coordinate. Does anyone have any reasonable guess about this process?

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"How did even come to that conlusion its a mistery its like you see raining and you think its not a rain but more like an alien like liquid."


I'd say it's Sulfuric acid rain! How about you? What do you think about it?

 

[Don Chinjao]

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"How did even come to that conlusion its a mistery its like you see raining and you think its not a rain but more like an alien like liquid."


I'd say it's Sulfuric acid rain! How about you? What do you think about it?

The sulfuric acid rain doesnt fit and doesnt sound logic because if he could make Acid rain everyone in the entier town and this inluding luffy and everyone would have been affected and that means wood and stuff burned away and ppl w having multple wounds. Can't you see that he could control the weather? The green effect you saw was more like a cool way to show his powers. Its nothing like acid if you would say that he is using wind or change the temperature in atmosphere thus thats a way to make winds and affect the weather in target loc it would have been made more sense.

 

[jimtors]

Blackbeard can create darkness so dense that it has it's own gravitational pull. Fujitora's fruit is different, since it can manipulate gravity in a certain area. Increase it, decrease it... Well, I imagine, anyway. As for leviation, best explanation is - it magically allows stuff to fly.

Those other examples aren't really that bad in comparison to ice/sbow logia. Snow is just tiny pieces of ice. Anything Monet was able to do, Aokiji should have been able to do as well.

How about LIon Shiki's fruit that can make islands fly? what is the difference? DO you think Fujitora just has the better fruit?

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I don't know how far is the Cast range of the Art Art fruit of DD's subordinate but if it has a long cast range i think it is also hax in one piece verse..^__^

 

[REN KOUEN]

im not even sure what fujitora fruit is yet, i thought i read "comet" in the last chapter

if the man has the ability to make comets fall on the earth he has perhaps the best fruit

how in the hell can you fight that?

 

[Anduren]

im not even sure what fujitora fruit is yet, i thought i read "comet" in the last chapter

if the man has the ability to make comets fall on the earth he has perhaps the best fruit

how in the hell can you fight that?

Nikyu Nikyu no Mi.... bounce them back with the paws.

But I don't think that's how the strawhats will deal with it anyways. I'm sure Oda will think of something else.

 

[iFrozt]

Most OP zoan fruit.
Panda Panda no mi
You became a pandaman = auto win

 

[MBVC]

The sulfuric acid rain doesnt fit and doesnt sound logic because if he could make Acid rain everyone in the entier town and this inluding luffy and everyone would have been affected and that means wood and stuff burned away and ppl w having multple wounds. Can't you see that he could control the weather? The green effect you saw was more like a cool way to show his powers. Its nothing like acid if you would say that he is using wind or change the temperature in atmosphere thus thats a way to make winds and affect the weather in target loc it would have been made more sense.

It was just a sarcasm somehow passed the mod detection. Anyway, I dislike the notion of Dragon being the weatherman!

 

[jimtors]

im not even sure what fujitora fruit is yet, i thought i read "comet" in the last chapter

if the man has the ability to make comets fall on the earth he has perhaps the best fruit

how in the hell can you fight that?

The how was he able to make the fleet ship float in the air? and push down law to the ground with the tip of this sword???

Wont' his power be something like gravity? That's why i'm confused how different it is with Lion Shiki's fruit.

 

[TheLuffySmile]

^The difference is Fujitora manipulates gravity, while Shiki manipulates levitation. Also Shiki has to touch everything before he's able to exert control over it.

 

[M3J]

Yami yami no mi and goro goro no mi are two of the best and most haxxed devil fruits.

But I also think gomu gomu no mi belong on the list, considering with the right person, it is extremely powerful. The person would be able to stretch anywhere, slingshot himself, fight at a distance, act like a trampoline (whether cushioning people or bouncing back projectiles), and so much more. It'd take haki, super strength, or something sharp like a sword to do damage.

 

[DutchPhoenix]

Rubber fruit can also use gear second and gear third, to boost strenght/speed even more then a zoan lol.
Plus ur immune to alot of types of damage

 

[TheLuffySmile]

Rubber fruit can also use gear second and gear third, to boost strenght/speed even more then a zoan lol.
Plus ur immune to alot of types of damage

Well I'd say it's a stretch ( pun intended) to say that "Rubber fruit can also use gear second and gear third" Since these two are inventions of Luffy's, combining his fighting skill and amazing ingenuity.