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Oh Pudding Memo memo no mi, and Viola's giro giro are also great options :zomg

I forgot a lot of interesting fruits, so decide to list* them here so you can click the link and check the ones youd like to pick. (source : picked the lists from wikia)

*listed only canon fruits.

paramecia

Paramecia fruits

  • Gomu Gomu no Mi (English versions: Gum-Gum Fruit): Turns the user's body into rubber, giving them the power to stretch, bounce, and inflate; as well as make them immune to electricity and near impervious to blunt-force attacks and bullets. Eaten by Monkey D. Luffy.
  • Bara Bara no Mi (English versions: Chop-Chop Fruit): Allows the user to split their body into separate pieces, which the user can manipulate and make fly through the air. It also makes them immune to slashing attacks. Eaten by Buggy.
  • Sube Sube no Mi (English versions: Slip-Slip Fruit/Smooth-Smooth Fruit): Makes the user's skin extremely smooth and slippery, causing things to slide off them. Eaten by Alvida.
  • Bomu Bomu no Mi (English versions: Bomb-Bomb Fruit/Boom-Boom Fruit): Allows the user to create explosions from their body, as well as give explosive properties to their bodily secretions. Also makes the user immune to explosions. Eaten by Gem.
  • Kiro Kiro no Mi (English versions: Kilo-Kilo Fruit): Allows the user to increase or decrease their body weight at will. Eaten by Mikita.
  • Hana Hana no Mi (English versions: Flower-Flower Fruit): Allows the user to sprout duplicates of their body parts from any nearby surface. Eaten by Nico Robin.
  • Doru Doru no Mi (English versions: Wax-Wax Fruit): Allows the user to create and control candle wax. Eaten by Galdino.
  • Baku Baku no Mi (English versions: Munch-Munch Fruit): Allows the user to eat anything and transform their body to match the qualities of what they've recently eaten. Eaten by Wapol.
  • Mane Mane no Mi (English versions: Clone-Clone Fruit): Allows the user to transform into a physical lookalike of another person. Eaten by Kurozumi Higurashi until her death and later eaten by Bentham.
  • Supa Supa no Mi (English versions: Dice-Dice Fruit): Allows the user to transform any part of their body into a blade, thus gaining slashing abilities and making their skin as hard as steel. Eaten by Daz Bonez.
  • Toge Toge no Mi (English versions: Spike-Spike Fruit): Allows the user to grow spikes from their body. Eaten by Zala.
  • Ori Ori no Mi (English versions: Cage-Cage Fruit/Bind-Bind Fruit): Allows the user to create iron bindings on their opponents. Eaten by Hina.
  • Bane Bane no Mi (English versions: Spring-Spring Fruit/Boing-Boing Fruit): Allows the user to turn their limbs into springs. Eaten by Bellamy.
  • Ito Ito no Mi (English versions: String-String Fruit): Allows the user to create and control strings. Eaten by Donquixote Doflamingo.
  • Noro Noro no Mi (English versions: Slow-Slow Fruit): Allows the user to emit special photons that slow down anything they touch for 30 seconds. Eaten by Foxy.
  • Doa Doa no Mi (English versions: Door-Door Fruit): Allows the user to create and open doors on anything, including walls, living beings, and the even the air itself. Eaten by Blueno.
  • Awa Awa no Mi (English versions: Bubble-Bubble Fruit): Allows the user to create and control soap bubbles that can clean anything, including strength. Eaten by Kalifa.
  • Beri Beri no Mi (English versions: Berry-Berry Fruit): Allows the user to split their body into many spheres. Eaten by Very Good.
  • Sabi Sabi no Mi (English versions: Rust-Rust Fruit): Allows the user to rust anything they touch, including organic material. Eaten by Shu.
  • Shari Shari no Mi (English versions: Wheel-Wheel Fruit): Allows the user to turn their limbs into wheels. Eaten by Sharinguru.
  • Horo Horo no Mi (English versions: Hollow-Hollow Fruit): Allows the user to create and control ghosts. The ghosts cause despair in the people they touch and are capable of self-destructing. The user can also make their own ghost leave their body. Eaten by Perona.
  • Yomi Yomi no Mi (English versions: Revive-Revive Fruit): Allows the user to return to life after dying once already, as well as allow the user to make their returned soul temporarily leave their reanimated body. Eaten by Brook.
  • Kage Kage no Mi (English versions: Shadow-Shadow Fruit): Allows the user to manifest and control shadows. Eaten by Gecko Moria.
  • Suke Suke no Mi (English versions: Clear-Clear Fruit): Allows the user to become invisible, as well as make anything they touch invisible. Eaten by Absalom until his death and later eaten by Shiryu.
  • Nikyu Nikyu no Mi (English versions: Paw-Paw Fruit): Gives the user paw pads on their hands that can repel anything they touch. Eaten by Bartholomew Kuma.
  • Ope Ope no Mi (English versions: Op-Op Fruit): Allows the user to generate a sphere-like room, inside which they can manipulate anything. Eaten by Trafalgar D. Water Law.
  • Shiro Shiro no Mi (English versions: Castle-Castle Fruit): Allows the user to become a living fortress equipped with cannons, as well as letting them shrink people and objects and house them inside their body. Eaten by Capone Bege.
  • Wara Wara no Mi (English versions: Straw-Straw Fruit): Allows the user to create and control straw. They can attach other people's life forces to straw dolls, allowing the damage they take to transfer to the dolls and the people connected to them. Eaten by Basil Hawkins.
  • Mero Mero no Mi (English versions: Love-Love Fruit): Allows the user to turn people that feel attraction for them into stone. Eaten by Boa Hancock.
  • Doku Doku no Mi (English versions: Venom-Venom Fruit): Allows the user to create and control poison. Eaten by Magellan.
  • Horu Horu no Mi (English versions: Horm-Horm Fruit): Allows the user to create special hormones and inject them into a persons body, changing their biochemistry. Eaten by Emporio Ivankov.
  • Choki Choki no Mi (English versions: Snip-Snip Fruit): Allows the user to transform parts of their body into scissors. Anything cut by these scissors briefly gains the properties of paper. Eaten by Inazuma.
  • Gura Gura no Mi (English versions: Tremor-Tremor Fruit): Allows the user to create quakes and shockwaves. Considered to be the most powerful Paramecia. Eaten by Edward Newgate and later stolen from him by Marshall D. Teach upon his death.
  • Kira Kira no Mi: Allows the user to transform their body into diamond. Eaten by Jozu.
  • Woshu Woshu no Mi (English versions: Wash-Wash Fruit): Allows the user to literally wash and fold a person as if they were laundry. It also makes the victim's heart cleaner. Eaten by Tsuru.
  • Fuwa Fuwa no Mi (English versions: Float-Float Fruit): Allows the user to fly and make non-living things they touch levitate. Eaten by Shiki.
  • Mato Mato no Mi (English versions: Mark-Mark Fruit): Allows the user to mark a person as their target by touching them so that any weapon thrown with that same hand will chase after the marked target. Eaten by Vander Decken IX.
  • Fuku Fuku no Mi (English versions: Garb-Garb Jutsu): Allows the user to create clothing. Eaten by Kin'emon.
  • Hobi Hobi no Mi (English versions: Hobby-Hobby Fruit): Allows the user to turn people into subservient toys, simultaneously erasing any memory of the victim from the minds of others. It also halts the user's aging. Eaten by Sugar.
  • Buki Buki no Mi (English versions: Arms-Arms Fruit): Allows the user to transform their body into any kind of weapon. Eaten by Baby 5.
  • Guru Guru no Mi (English versions: Spin-Spin Fruit): Allows the user to make any part of their body spin like a propeller. Eaten by Buffalo.
  • Beta Beta no Mi (English versions: Stick-Stick Fruit): Allows the user to create and control mucus. Eaten by Trebol.
  • Zushi Zushi no Mi: Allows the user to manipulate gravity. Eaten by Issho.
  • Bari Bari no Mi (English versions: Barrier-Barrier Fruit): Allows the user to create barriers. Eaten by Kurozumi Semimaru until his death and later eaten by Bartolomeo.
  • Nui Nui no Mi (English versions: Stitch-Stitch Power): Allows the user to stitch things together. Eaten by Leo.
  • Giro Giro no Mi (English versions: Glare-Glare Fruit): Allows the user to see through solid objects, as well as read people's minds and memories. Eaten by Viola.
  • Ato Ato no Mi (English versions: Art-Art Fruit): Allows the user to transform people and objects into art. Eaten by Giolla.
  • Jake Jake no Mi (English versions: Jacket-Jacket Fruit): Allows the user to transform into a jacket and control the body of the person wearing them. Eaten by Kelly Funk.
  • Pamu Pamu no Mi (English versions: Pop-Pop Fruit): Allows the user to expand and rupture their body, as well as any inorganic object they touch. Eaten by Gladius.
  • Sui Sui no Mi (English versions: Swim-Swim Fruit): Allows the user to swim freely in the ground and walls. Eaten by Senor Pink.
  • Ton Ton no Mi (English versions: Ton-Ton Fruit): Allows the user to drastically increase their body weight. Eaten by Machvise.
  • Hira Hira no Mi (English versions: Ripple-Ripple Fruit): Allows the user to give anything they touch the properties of fabric, making it thin, flexible, and fluttering. Eaten by Diamante.
  • Ishi Ishi no Mi (English versions: Stone-Stone Fruit): Allows the user to assimilate into and control stone. Eaten by Pica.
  • Nagi Nagi no Mi (English versions: Calm-Calm Fruit): Allows the user to nullify sounds. Eaten by Donquixote Rosinante until his death.
  • Chiyu Chiyu no Mi (English versions: Heal-Heal Fruit): Allows the user to heal people's wounds. Eaten by Mansherry.
  • Soru Soru no Mi (English versions: Soul-Soul Fruit): Allows the user to extract people's souls and use them to bring objects to life. Eaten by Carmel until her death and later eaten by Charlotte Linlin.
  • Mira Mira no Mi (English versions: Mirror-Mirror Fruit): Allows the user to create mirrors that reflect attacks and act as entrances to the Mirro-World. Eaten by Charlotte Brûlée.
  • Pero Pero no Mi (English versions: Lick-Lick Fruit): Allows the user to create and control candy. Eaten by Charlotte Perospero.
  • Bisu Bisu no Mi (English versions: Bis-Bis Fruit): Allows the user to create and control biscuits. Eaten by Charlotte Cracker.
  • Bata Bata no Mi (English versions: Butter-Butter Fruit): Allows the user to create and control butter. Eaten by Charlotte Galette.
  • Buku Buku no Mi (English versions: Book-Book Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate books, as well as trap people inside them. Eaten by Charlotte Mont-d'Or.
  • Kuri Kuri no Mi (English versions: Cream-Cream Fruit): Allows the user to create and control cream. Eaten by Charlotte Opera.
  • Shibo Shibo no Mi (English versions: Wring-Wring Fruit): Allows the user to drain liquid from people and objects. Eaten by Charlotte Smoothie.
  • Memo Memo no Mi (English versions: Memo-Memo Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate people's memories. Eaten by Charlotte Pudding.
  • Mochi Mochi no Mi (English versions: Mochi-Mochi Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into mochi. Eaten by Charlotte Katakuri. This Devil Fruit is noted to be a "special Paramecia".
  • Hoya Hoya no Mi (English versions: Puff-Puff Fruit): Allows the user to summon a genie from their body. Eaten by Charlotte Daifuku.
  • Netsu Netsu no Mi (English versions: Heat-Heat Fruit): Allows the user to emit high heat from their body. Eaten by Charlotte Oven.
  • Kuku Kuku no Mi (English versions: Cook-Cook Fruit): Allows the user to transform objects into food. Eaten by Streusen.
  • Gocha Gocha no Mi: Allows the user to fuse themselves with other people. Eaten by Charlotte Newshi.
  • Oshi Oshi no Mi (English versions: Push-Push Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate the ground as if it were made of clay. Eaten by Morley.
  • Kobu Kobu no Mi (English versions: Pump-Pump Fruit): Allows the user to rally people into fighting and awaken their latent potential. Eaten by Belo Betty.
  • Toki Toki no Mi (English versions: Time-Time Ability): Allows the user to send themselves and others forward in time. Eaten by Kozuki Toki until her death.
  • Juku Juku no Mi (English versions: Ripe-Ripe Jutsu): Allows the user to mature and decay inanimate objects. Eaten by Shinobu.
Unnamed Fruits

  • Eustass Kid's fruit which allows him to manipulate magnetic forces.
  • Jewelry Bonney's fruit which allows her to manipulate the age of any person, including herself.
  • Scratchmen Apoo's fruit which allows him to morph body parts into instruments and use music as a weapon.
  • Urouge's fruit which allows him to convert damage taken into strength, resulting in expanding muscles.
  • Blamenco's fruit which creates pockets in his body that can store things such as a giant hammer.
  • Sanjuan Wolf's fruit that makes him bigger than regular giants.
  • Kurozumi Kanjuro's fruit that allows him to bring whatever he draws to life. Like Kin'emon, he refers to it as sorcery.
  • Tama's fruit that allows her to create dango from her cheeks that make any animal that eats them tame and subservient.



zoan

Zoan fruits


Ushi Ushi no Mi (Ox) series
  • Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Bison (English versions: Ox-Ox Fruit/Ox-Ox Fruit, Bison Model/Ox-Ox Fruit, Bison Form) - Allows the user to become a full bison or a half-bison hybrid. Eaten by Dalton.
  • Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Giraffe (English versions: English versions: Ox-Ox Fruit, Giraffe Model/Ox-Ox Fruit, Model: Giraffe) - Allows the user to become a full giraffe or a half-giraffe hybrid. Eaten by Kaku.
Hito Hito no Mi (Human) series
  • Hito Hito no Mi (English versions: Human-Human Fruit) - Allows any animal that eats it to get human characteristics like Tony Tony Chopper did when he ate the fruit.
  • Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Daibutsu (English versions: Human-Human Fruit, Daibutsu Model/Human-Human Fruit, Model: Buddha) - Allows the user to become a Daibutsu (a giant gold Buddha) or a half-Daibutsu hybrid. Eaten by Sengoku.
Tori Tori no Mi (Bird) series
Inu Inu no Mi (Dog) series
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Dachshund (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit/Mutt-Mutt Fruit, Dachshund Form/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Dachshund) - Allows the user to become a full dachshund or a half-dachshund hybrid. In the case of Babe's bazooka-like gun Lassoo, he became a dachshund/gun hybrid.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Jackal (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Jackal Strike/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Jackal/Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Jackal Model) - Allows the user to become a full jackal or a half-jackal hybrid. Eaten by Chaka.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Wolf (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Wolf Model/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Wolf) - Allows the user to become a full wolf or a half-wolf hybrid similar to a werewolf. Eaten by Jabra.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Tanuki - Allows the user to become a full tanuki or a half-tanuki hybrid. In the case of Tenguyama Hitetsu's teapot Bunbuku, he becomes a tanuki/teapot hybrid.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Kyubi no Kitsune (English version: Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Nine Tailed Fox) - Allows the user to become a full nine-tailed fox or a half-nine-tailed fox hybrid, and allows the user to become perfect clones of other people. Eaten by Catarina Devon.
Neko Neko no Mi (Cat) series
Zou Zou no Mi (Elephant) series
  • Zou Zou no Mi (English version: Elephant-Elephant Fruit/Eleph-Eleph Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full elephant or a half-elephant hybrid. In the case of Spandam's sword Funkfreed, he becomes an elephant/sword hybrid.
  • Zou Zou no Mi, Model: Mammoth (English version: Elephant-Elephant Fruit, Model: Mammoth) - Allows the user to become a full mammoth or a half-mammoth hybrid. Eaten by Jack.
Ryu Ryu no Mi (Dragon) series
Hebi Hebi no Mi (Snake) series
Sara Sara no Mi (Salamander) series
  • Sara Sara no Mi, Model: Axolotl (English version: Sala-Sala Fruit, Model: Axolotl) - Allows the user to become a full axolotl or a half-axolotl hybrid. In the case of Caesar Clown's slime Smiley, it became an axolotl/slime hybrid until it's death.
Mushi Mushi no Mi (Bug) series
  • Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Kabutomushi (English version: Bug-Bug Fruit, Model: Rhinoceros Beetle) - Allows the user to become a full rhinoceros beetle or a half-rhinoceros beetle hybrid. The user can also fly in either form. Eaten by Kabu.
  • Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Suzumebachi (English version: Bug-Bug Fruit, Model: Hornet) - Allows the user to become a full hornet or a half-hornet hybrid. The user can also fly in either form. Eaten by Bian.
Single model series
  • Mogu Mogu no Mi (English version: Diggy-Diggy Fruit/Mole-Mole Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full mole or a half-mole hybrid. The user can also dig underground. Eaten by Drophy.
  • Uma Uma no Mi (English version: Horse-Horse Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full horse or a half-horse hybrid. In the case of Gan Fall's pet bird Pierre, he resembles a Pegasus.
  • Kame Kame no Mi (English version: Turtle-Turtle Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full turtle or a half-turtle hybrid. In the case of Pekoms, he resembles a Tarasque
Unnamed Fruits

This section lists the Zoan Devil Fruits that haven't been identified yet.

  • Minotaurus' fruit which allows him to take the form of a Holstein cow.
  • Minokoala's fruit which allows him to take the form of a koala.
  • Minorhinoceros' fruit which allows him to take the form of a rhinoceros.
  • Minozebra's fruit which allows him to take the form of a zebra.
  • Onigumo's fruit that lets him sprout spider-like arms from his back as well as grow a spider's abdomen.
  • Dalmatian's fruit which allows him to turn into a dalmatian.
  • Epoida's fruit which allows him to turn into a caterpillar.
  • Minochihuahua's fruit which allows him to take the form of a chihuahua.
  • Kaido's fruit which allows him to transform into an eastern dragon.





logia

Logia fruits

  • Moku Moku no Mi (English Versions: Smoke-Smoke Fruit/Plume-Plume Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into smoke. Eaten by Smoker.
  • Suna Suna no Mi (English Versions: Sand-Sand Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into sand. The sand can dehydrate any non-metallic substance it touches. Eaten by Crocodile.
  • Mera Mera no Mi (English Versions: Flame-Flame Fruit/Flare-Flare Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into fire. Eaten by Portgas D. Ace until his death and later eaten by Sabo.
  • Goro Goro no Mi (English Versions: Rumble-Rumble Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into lightning. Eaten by Enel.
  • Hie Hie no Mi (English Versions: Chilly-Chilly Fruit/Ice-Ice Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into ice. Eaten by Kuzan.
  • Yami Yami no Mi (English Versions: Dark-Dark Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into darkness. The darkness has strong gravitational properties and the user has an infinite amount of space inside of their elemental body. Eaten by Marshall D. Teach.
  • Pika Pika no Mi (English Versions: Glint-Glint Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into light. Eaten by Borsalino.
  • Magu Magu no Mi (English Versions: Mag-Mag Fruit): Allows the user to create, create, and transform into magma. Eaten by Sakazuki.
  • Numa Numa no Mi (English Versions: Swamp-Swamp Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into mud. The user is a "bottomless swamp", granting them an infinite amount of space inside their elemental body. The mud can take on the properties of quicksand. Eaten by Caribou.
  • Gasu Gasu no Mi (English Versions: Gas-Gas Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into gas. Eaten by Caesar Clown.
  • Yuki Yuki no Mi (English Versions: Snow-Snow Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into snow. Eaten by Monet until her death.


 

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That would be a variation of Mr.2's Mane Mane no mi, some "model" of it, no?
Mane no mi lets you change apearance right? I guess it could be another model of it:derp

What if it limits only to the last ability you copied? Like that guy in area d?
 

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What if it limits only to the last ability you copied? Like that guy in area d?
It would still let the user steal their opponents ability. Kind of boring and too hax.

need not be.just like law's fruit,there could be a time limit or some other sort of constraint.copying or even transfer of abilities could happen.
Law's ability is unique. His ability isn't any more hax than most DF introduced during Grand Line, it's just fancier and more complicated. Gekko Moriah's was even more hax. Some logia too, especially Ace and Kuzan's.
 

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It would still let the user steal their opponents ability. Kind of boring and too hax.

Law's ability is unique. His ability isn't any more hax than most DF introduced during Grand Line, it's just fancier and more complicated. Gekko Moriah's was even more hax. Some logia too, especially Ace and Kuzan's.
i get your point about it being too hax but i still think oda can use some trick to compensate for making such an over powered fruit.just like law's,a time limit on using the copied fruit can work in my opinion.in the absence of a fruit user(within an aoe),the ability can be useless as well.maybe more tricks like these can be made up. anyways,i would love to see this kind of fruit in a filler at least.
 

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Sleep sleep no mi
Abilities
Put people to sleep, they cant wake up by themselves
Control their dreams, and make them sleepwalk & fight for you.
Steal people's dreams, make them unable to rest when sleeping.
Xtreme nightmare, if they die in their nightmare, their bodies will die too
Ultimate dream control, puts himself in sleep, gain abilities that he has in his dream, and can control sleepfighting.

Aizen aizen no mi
Complete hypnoses, control other people all senses

Endurance no mi
Unlimited energy, unable to get ''tired'' , can always fight and train all-out, withoud getting tired, unlimited stamina.
Ability to drain other people's energy by touch
Ability to give other people energy by touch
 

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Wasted Devil Fruits

It's been 747 chapters as of today, there's been tons of devil fruits.

However, I feel some are really wasted on people....

In the order from present to the past.

Baby 5-cmon. weapons. Who's to say what her limit were? Yet defeated so easily.
Monet- Similar to aokiji... CMON ODA
Caesar- A logia, yes he was the main antagonist for an arc, but I feel he was too weak to be easily defeated by a single hit of haki. If it was given to say... the unamed admiral, it would've been used so much better.
Captain Shu- pretty self explanatory. Rusting is unbelievable
Enel- Possibly my favorite/strongest in my opinion logia there is. Would be a wonderful opponent for Zoro or anyone after the time skip.
and basically every baroque work agent. especially Mr.5 and his partner. (Except ms Merry Christmas... she was ugh)

Who do you guys think fruits are wasted?
 

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Re: Wasted Devil Fruits

It's been 747 chapters as of today, there's been tons of devil fruits.

However, I feel some are really wasted on people....

In the order from present to the past.

Baby 5-cmon. weapons. Who's to say what her limit were? Yet defeated so easily.
Monet- Similar to aokiji... CMON ODA
Caesar- A logia, yes he was the main antagonist for an arc, but I feel he was too weak to be easily defeated by a single hit of haki. If it was given to say... the unamed admiral, it would've been used so much better.
Captain Shu- pretty self explanatory. Rusting is unbelievable
Enel- Possibly my favorite/strongest in my opinion logia there is. Would be a wonderful opponent for Zoro or anyone after the time skip.
and basically every baroque work agent. especially Mr.5 and his partner. (Except ms Merry Christmas... she was ugh)

Who do you guys think fruits are wasted?
Is the Goro-goro no mi wasted on Enel? I really don't think so.
Luffy winning against Enel was Oda's doing.
 

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Re: Wasted Devil Fruits

Is the Goro-goro no mi wasted on Enel? I really don't think so.
Luffy winning against Enel was Oda's doing.
putting him against luffy just seem lazy, it was too easy of a fight, seeing him against zoro or franky or nami would've been much more interesting
 

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Re: Wasted Devil Fruits

The Goro Goro no mi wasted on Enel? I don't think so.Sure Luffy is immune, but Enel still gave him a hard time with his trident. But I do find it weird that Crocodile's weakness is water. I really think it's a shame, since he has one of the best DF out there, or would be if it weren't for that weakness.Its power is quite frighening and yet it has such a obvious weakness. I think Oda just wanted to make things easier for Luffy by making a logia tangible in a way.
 

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Re: Wasted Devil Fruits

I agree that sometimes DF seem to fall quite short of their potential, but I don't agree with the actual list. Monet and Ceasar were necessary, much like Caribou, to show that simply being a logia wasn't enough in the New World. And even so, both were reasonably powerful opponents. I can't imagine why Enel is on this list, he was a monster. And Shu seems like a rather random addition. When I think of a DF wasted on its user, Foxy's Noro no Mi comes straight to mind.
 

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Re: Wasted Devil Fruits

When I look over the paramecia users, it's easy to see flaws in how some like Foxy used his fruit or as everyone seems to say Mr. 5 (what an epic waste). Jora, despite having a gimmicky power, was only defeated by idiocy too, so her power was wasted. Even Sugar, whose power is simply broken beyond all reason was defeated due to something goofy (though hilarious). Another one that bothers me too is Miss Valentine not because she was a waste but because she was replaced by someone with a much less interesting fruit: Machvice. She could control her weight both ways which was very useful, but Machvice can pretty much only make himself heavy and attack exactly the same way as her. He even uses his with better teamwork due to Senor Pink's interference so it further makes Miss Valentine seem unfairly inferior.

Also, I can't say that any zoan users were a waste since if anything it seems like zoans that we've seen have been capable of things beyond what their basic fruit would give them. Most logias except Caesar who has arguably one of the most dangerous fruits to date, have been used pretty well too so no complaints there. Personally I'd have given Enel the light fruit instead of Kizaru if you want a truly "godlike" persona and not just one based on Zeus, but clearly Luffy needed to be able to defeat him so making him a light user that early in the story would have been too much of stretch for Luffy to beat.
 

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Strongest DF,not based on the Chr.

Hi, welcome to this thread. It's simple. What is, in your opinion, the most powerful DF.
1-In this thread we will not count the Gol D. Roger the 'hearing of everything' as a DF. (because we don't know)
2-It's based on the elements in real world as they found naturally. This does not apply on fruit like Nikyu Nikyu no Mi : Bartholomew Kuma.
Example: Fire has no limits to the heat.(no maximum degree)
3- Haki can be applied for both sides with the same amount but you gotta do the whole list accordingly. Meaning, example, "in this list the haki will be applied for DF" and then u list them.
4- The DF must be named in OP, you can't list DF that is not named. Like Kid's DF.
5- You can go as high as you want top 10, top 50, or top 9999 whatever you want.


#After some time, this thread will be analysed and I'll produce A video in the name of Mangahelper after I get the approval from the moderator(S). in case they do not agree the video will still be produced. However, it wont be in the name of MH.

My list will be as the following: I'm listing the name to make it easier.


11- Doku Doku no Mi : Magellan
10- Gura Gura no Mi : [Former user] : Edward Newgate (Whitebeard
9- Ope Ope no Mi : Trafalgar Law
8- Suna Suna no Mi : Crocodile (Mr.0)
7- Moku Moku no Mi: Smoker
6- Mera Mera no Mi : Portagas D. Ace
5- Magu Magu no Mi : Sakazuki (Akainu)
4- Goro Goro no Mi : Enel
3- Pika Pika no Mi : Borsalino (Kizaru),
2- Nikyu Nikyu no Mi : Bartholomew Kuma
1- Dark Dark No Mi: BlackBeard.
 
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So, is Yami yami #1 to you? Because the fruit sucks in wrong hands. Just imagine some weakling having it and going through all that pain.



I thought I did talk about the fruit...
You actually mentioned the character when you said the fruit would suck in the wrong hands.

The yami yami no mi and guro guro no mi are probably the most powerful fruit, with one being able to destroy the world and the other being able to suck in anything and negate devil fruit abilities. I don't think it can really be a matter of debate, other than guro guro vs. yami yami.
 

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Re: Strongest DF,not based on the Chr.

You actually mentioned the character when you said the fruit would suck in the wrong hands.

The yami yami no mi and guro guro no mi are probably the most powerful fruit, with one being able to destroy the world and the other being able to suck in anything and negate devil fruit abilities. I don't think it can really be a matter of debate, other than guro guro vs. yami yami.
Devil fruits can't do anything on their own so the user is required. I thought the thread is about the fruits that are strong without regard to their user. Yami yami has some drawbacks, as we've seen. Not being able to avoid attacks, experiencing hightened sense of pain, drawing opponents toward yourself. That's why Yami yami is not so scary if it's possesed by someone with bad consitution. Gura gura is scary yes, but we come across the user vulnerability territory again.

If it were real life, I'd bet more on intangible logia.
 

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Re: Strongest DF,not based on the Chr.

We thought right, but I guess the thread creator thought mentioning Blackbeard as why yami yami no mi is as good as it is was against the rule he made. You could discuss devil fruit in itself though, like imagine the users are the same? I dunno.

True, but yaim yami still seems to be dangerous under the right hand, probably the most powerful fruit next to gura gura no mi. If someone like Akainu had yami yami no mi, he'd be overpowered.

User vulnerability? What vulnerability? I thought anyone could use the gura gura no mi effortlessly, unliek yami yami no mi?
 

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Merged this discussion with an already existing "Wasted Df's discussion", discussion about Devil Fruits also goes into the "Tree of Knowledge" forum, please when discussing DF's post and start topics there.
 

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Re: Strongest DF,not based on the Chr.

User vulnerability? What vulnerability? I thought anyone could use the gura gura no mi effortlessly, unliek yami yami no mi?
Use it yes, but don't tell me you think Helmeppo, for example, would be as threatening as Whitebeard with it. Point is, the user can still be killed and it's a lot easier if he can't take hundreds of bullets and shit like WB did.

I'm leaning towards either lightning logia or to fire logia. Fire because SheeDeD mentioned there would be no limit to the heat. Lightings can heat air up to 30,000 degrees Celsius and white and blue flames can reach almost 5,000 degrees. You'd be unstoppable in real world, where there is no seastone or Haki. Which is more than we can say about any paramecia.
 

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Re: Strongest DF,not based on the Chr.

Moku moku is only worthwhile against people without haki, it does very little beyond intangibility. Ceasar's is pretty much strictly better.
I'm also underwhelmed by yami yami. It was impressive back when it was the first way to ever hit a logia user, but now that haki is around I'd expect more from it than that and haven't seen it yet.

1. Nikyu nikyu (teleportation, light speed projectiles, devastating explosions and basically a one-hit KO make it ridiculous; repelling pain and exhaustion makes it downright silly)
2. Gura gura (the power to destroy the world)
3. Ito ito (puppeteering, paralyzation, extreme (and long range) power, flying, cloning... did I miss anything?)
4. Pika pika (have you ever been kicked at the speed of light?)
5. Goro goro (restarting your own heart is pretty handy)
6. Magu magu (basically turns the battlefield into hell)
7. Horo horo (most people were pretty helpless against it, and you can hide your body to remove any weakness)
8. Hobi hobi (another one-hit KO but without teleporting it isn't as easy to connect with)
9 -> a parade of logia fruits with mera mera and hie hie near the top


I think Noro noro belongs here, but it does require the user to not be completely useless so I'm not certain it qualifies. I would have put Marco at 4 (can you even beat him without seastone?) but it isn't named. I think Pica and Issho have potential to fit in there but we'll have to see how well they do.
 
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