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Oh Pudding Memo memo no mi, and Viola's giro giro are also great options :zomg

I forgot a lot of interesting fruits, so decide to list* them here so you can click the link and check the ones youd like to pick. (source : picked the lists from wikia)

*listed only canon fruits.

paramecia

Paramecia fruits

  • Gomu Gomu no Mi (English versions: Gum-Gum Fruit): Turns the user's body into rubber, giving them the power to stretch, bounce, and inflate; as well as make them immune to electricity and near impervious to blunt-force attacks and bullets. Eaten by Monkey D. Luffy.
  • Bara Bara no Mi (English versions: Chop-Chop Fruit): Allows the user to split their body into separate pieces, which the user can manipulate and make fly through the air. It also makes them immune to slashing attacks. Eaten by Buggy.
  • Sube Sube no Mi (English versions: Slip-Slip Fruit/Smooth-Smooth Fruit): Makes the user's skin extremely smooth and slippery, causing things to slide off them. Eaten by Alvida.
  • Bomu Bomu no Mi (English versions: Bomb-Bomb Fruit/Boom-Boom Fruit): Allows the user to create explosions from their body, as well as give explosive properties to their bodily secretions. Also makes the user immune to explosions. Eaten by Gem.
  • Kiro Kiro no Mi (English versions: Kilo-Kilo Fruit): Allows the user to increase or decrease their body weight at will. Eaten by Mikita.
  • Hana Hana no Mi (English versions: Flower-Flower Fruit): Allows the user to sprout duplicates of their body parts from any nearby surface. Eaten by Nico Robin.
  • Doru Doru no Mi (English versions: Wax-Wax Fruit): Allows the user to create and control candle wax. Eaten by Galdino.
  • Baku Baku no Mi (English versions: Munch-Munch Fruit): Allows the user to eat anything and transform their body to match the qualities of what they've recently eaten. Eaten by Wapol.
  • Mane Mane no Mi (English versions: Clone-Clone Fruit): Allows the user to transform into a physical lookalike of another person. Eaten by Kurozumi Higurashi until her death and later eaten by Bentham.
  • Supa Supa no Mi (English versions: Dice-Dice Fruit): Allows the user to transform any part of their body into a blade, thus gaining slashing abilities and making their skin as hard as steel. Eaten by Daz Bonez.
  • Toge Toge no Mi (English versions: Spike-Spike Fruit): Allows the user to grow spikes from their body. Eaten by Zala.
  • Ori Ori no Mi (English versions: Cage-Cage Fruit/Bind-Bind Fruit): Allows the user to create iron bindings on their opponents. Eaten by Hina.
  • Bane Bane no Mi (English versions: Spring-Spring Fruit/Boing-Boing Fruit): Allows the user to turn their limbs into springs. Eaten by Bellamy.
  • Ito Ito no Mi (English versions: String-String Fruit): Allows the user to create and control strings. Eaten by Donquixote Doflamingo.
  • Noro Noro no Mi (English versions: Slow-Slow Fruit): Allows the user to emit special photons that slow down anything they touch for 30 seconds. Eaten by Foxy.
  • Doa Doa no Mi (English versions: Door-Door Fruit): Allows the user to create and open doors on anything, including walls, living beings, and the even the air itself. Eaten by Blueno.
  • Awa Awa no Mi (English versions: Bubble-Bubble Fruit): Allows the user to create and control soap bubbles that can clean anything, including strength. Eaten by Kalifa.
  • Beri Beri no Mi (English versions: Berry-Berry Fruit): Allows the user to split their body into many spheres. Eaten by Very Good.
  • Sabi Sabi no Mi (English versions: Rust-Rust Fruit): Allows the user to rust anything they touch, including organic material. Eaten by Shu.
  • Shari Shari no Mi (English versions: Wheel-Wheel Fruit): Allows the user to turn their limbs into wheels. Eaten by Sharinguru.
  • Horo Horo no Mi (English versions: Hollow-Hollow Fruit): Allows the user to create and control ghosts. The ghosts cause despair in the people they touch and are capable of self-destructing. The user can also make their own ghost leave their body. Eaten by Perona.
  • Yomi Yomi no Mi (English versions: Revive-Revive Fruit): Allows the user to return to life after dying once already, as well as allow the user to make their returned soul temporarily leave their reanimated body. Eaten by Brook.
  • Kage Kage no Mi (English versions: Shadow-Shadow Fruit): Allows the user to manifest and control shadows. Eaten by Gecko Moria.
  • Suke Suke no Mi (English versions: Clear-Clear Fruit): Allows the user to become invisible, as well as make anything they touch invisible. Eaten by Absalom until his death and later eaten by Shiryu.
  • Nikyu Nikyu no Mi (English versions: Paw-Paw Fruit): Gives the user paw pads on their hands that can repel anything they touch. Eaten by Bartholomew Kuma.
  • Ope Ope no Mi (English versions: Op-Op Fruit): Allows the user to generate a sphere-like room, inside which they can manipulate anything. Eaten by Trafalgar D. Water Law.
  • Shiro Shiro no Mi (English versions: Castle-Castle Fruit): Allows the user to become a living fortress equipped with cannons, as well as letting them shrink people and objects and house them inside their body. Eaten by Capone Bege.
  • Wara Wara no Mi (English versions: Straw-Straw Fruit): Allows the user to create and control straw. They can attach other people's life forces to straw dolls, allowing the damage they take to transfer to the dolls and the people connected to them. Eaten by Basil Hawkins.
  • Mero Mero no Mi (English versions: Love-Love Fruit): Allows the user to turn people that feel attraction for them into stone. Eaten by Boa Hancock.
  • Doku Doku no Mi (English versions: Venom-Venom Fruit): Allows the user to create and control poison. Eaten by Magellan.
  • Horu Horu no Mi (English versions: Horm-Horm Fruit): Allows the user to create special hormones and inject them into a persons body, changing their biochemistry. Eaten by Emporio Ivankov.
  • Choki Choki no Mi (English versions: Snip-Snip Fruit): Allows the user to transform parts of their body into scissors. Anything cut by these scissors briefly gains the properties of paper. Eaten by Inazuma.
  • Gura Gura no Mi (English versions: Tremor-Tremor Fruit): Allows the user to create quakes and shockwaves. Considered to be the most powerful Paramecia. Eaten by Edward Newgate and later stolen from him by Marshall D. Teach upon his death.
  • Kira Kira no Mi: Allows the user to transform their body into diamond. Eaten by Jozu.
  • Woshu Woshu no Mi (English versions: Wash-Wash Fruit): Allows the user to literally wash and fold a person as if they were laundry. It also makes the victim's heart cleaner. Eaten by Tsuru.
  • Fuwa Fuwa no Mi (English versions: Float-Float Fruit): Allows the user to fly and make non-living things they touch levitate. Eaten by Shiki.
  • Mato Mato no Mi (English versions: Mark-Mark Fruit): Allows the user to mark a person as their target by touching them so that any weapon thrown with that same hand will chase after the marked target. Eaten by Vander Decken IX.
  • Fuku Fuku no Mi (English versions: Garb-Garb Jutsu): Allows the user to create clothing. Eaten by Kin'emon.
  • Hobi Hobi no Mi (English versions: Hobby-Hobby Fruit): Allows the user to turn people into subservient toys, simultaneously erasing any memory of the victim from the minds of others. It also halts the user's aging. Eaten by Sugar.
  • Buki Buki no Mi (English versions: Arms-Arms Fruit): Allows the user to transform their body into any kind of weapon. Eaten by Baby 5.
  • Guru Guru no Mi (English versions: Spin-Spin Fruit): Allows the user to make any part of their body spin like a propeller. Eaten by Buffalo.
  • Beta Beta no Mi (English versions: Stick-Stick Fruit): Allows the user to create and control mucus. Eaten by Trebol.
  • Zushi Zushi no Mi: Allows the user to manipulate gravity. Eaten by Issho.
  • Bari Bari no Mi (English versions: Barrier-Barrier Fruit): Allows the user to create barriers. Eaten by Kurozumi Semimaru until his death and later eaten by Bartolomeo.
  • Nui Nui no Mi (English versions: Stitch-Stitch Power): Allows the user to stitch things together. Eaten by Leo.
  • Giro Giro no Mi (English versions: Glare-Glare Fruit): Allows the user to see through solid objects, as well as read people's minds and memories. Eaten by Viola.
  • Ato Ato no Mi (English versions: Art-Art Fruit): Allows the user to transform people and objects into art. Eaten by Giolla.
  • Jake Jake no Mi (English versions: Jacket-Jacket Fruit): Allows the user to transform into a jacket and control the body of the person wearing them. Eaten by Kelly Funk.
  • Pamu Pamu no Mi (English versions: Pop-Pop Fruit): Allows the user to expand and rupture their body, as well as any inorganic object they touch. Eaten by Gladius.
  • Sui Sui no Mi (English versions: Swim-Swim Fruit): Allows the user to swim freely in the ground and walls. Eaten by Senor Pink.
  • Ton Ton no Mi (English versions: Ton-Ton Fruit): Allows the user to drastically increase their body weight. Eaten by Machvise.
  • Hira Hira no Mi (English versions: Ripple-Ripple Fruit): Allows the user to give anything they touch the properties of fabric, making it thin, flexible, and fluttering. Eaten by Diamante.
  • Ishi Ishi no Mi (English versions: Stone-Stone Fruit): Allows the user to assimilate into and control stone. Eaten by Pica.
  • Nagi Nagi no Mi (English versions: Calm-Calm Fruit): Allows the user to nullify sounds. Eaten by Donquixote Rosinante until his death.
  • Chiyu Chiyu no Mi (English versions: Heal-Heal Fruit): Allows the user to heal people's wounds. Eaten by Mansherry.
  • Soru Soru no Mi (English versions: Soul-Soul Fruit): Allows the user to extract people's souls and use them to bring objects to life. Eaten by Carmel until her death and later eaten by Charlotte Linlin.
  • Mira Mira no Mi (English versions: Mirror-Mirror Fruit): Allows the user to create mirrors that reflect attacks and act as entrances to the Mirro-World. Eaten by Charlotte Brûlée.
  • Pero Pero no Mi (English versions: Lick-Lick Fruit): Allows the user to create and control candy. Eaten by Charlotte Perospero.
  • Bisu Bisu no Mi (English versions: Bis-Bis Fruit): Allows the user to create and control biscuits. Eaten by Charlotte Cracker.
  • Bata Bata no Mi (English versions: Butter-Butter Fruit): Allows the user to create and control butter. Eaten by Charlotte Galette.
  • Buku Buku no Mi (English versions: Book-Book Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate books, as well as trap people inside them. Eaten by Charlotte Mont-d'Or.
  • Kuri Kuri no Mi (English versions: Cream-Cream Fruit): Allows the user to create and control cream. Eaten by Charlotte Opera.
  • Shibo Shibo no Mi (English versions: Wring-Wring Fruit): Allows the user to drain liquid from people and objects. Eaten by Charlotte Smoothie.
  • Memo Memo no Mi (English versions: Memo-Memo Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate people's memories. Eaten by Charlotte Pudding.
  • Mochi Mochi no Mi (English versions: Mochi-Mochi Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into mochi. Eaten by Charlotte Katakuri. This Devil Fruit is noted to be a "special Paramecia".
  • Hoya Hoya no Mi (English versions: Puff-Puff Fruit): Allows the user to summon a genie from their body. Eaten by Charlotte Daifuku.
  • Netsu Netsu no Mi (English versions: Heat-Heat Fruit): Allows the user to emit high heat from their body. Eaten by Charlotte Oven.
  • Kuku Kuku no Mi (English versions: Cook-Cook Fruit): Allows the user to transform objects into food. Eaten by Streusen.
  • Gocha Gocha no Mi: Allows the user to fuse themselves with other people. Eaten by Charlotte Newshi.
  • Oshi Oshi no Mi (English versions: Push-Push Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate the ground as if it were made of clay. Eaten by Morley.
  • Kobu Kobu no Mi (English versions: Pump-Pump Fruit): Allows the user to rally people into fighting and awaken their latent potential. Eaten by Belo Betty.
  • Toki Toki no Mi (English versions: Time-Time Ability): Allows the user to send themselves and others forward in time. Eaten by Kozuki Toki until her death.
  • Juku Juku no Mi (English versions: Ripe-Ripe Jutsu): Allows the user to mature and decay inanimate objects. Eaten by Shinobu.
Unnamed Fruits

  • Eustass Kid's fruit which allows him to manipulate magnetic forces.
  • Jewelry Bonney's fruit which allows her to manipulate the age of any person, including herself.
  • Scratchmen Apoo's fruit which allows him to morph body parts into instruments and use music as a weapon.
  • Urouge's fruit which allows him to convert damage taken into strength, resulting in expanding muscles.
  • Blamenco's fruit which creates pockets in his body that can store things such as a giant hammer.
  • Sanjuan Wolf's fruit that makes him bigger than regular giants.
  • Kurozumi Kanjuro's fruit that allows him to bring whatever he draws to life. Like Kin'emon, he refers to it as sorcery.
  • Tama's fruit that allows her to create dango from her cheeks that make any animal that eats them tame and subservient.



zoan

Zoan fruits


Ushi Ushi no Mi (Ox) series
  • Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Bison (English versions: Ox-Ox Fruit/Ox-Ox Fruit, Bison Model/Ox-Ox Fruit, Bison Form) - Allows the user to become a full bison or a half-bison hybrid. Eaten by Dalton.
  • Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Giraffe (English versions: English versions: Ox-Ox Fruit, Giraffe Model/Ox-Ox Fruit, Model: Giraffe) - Allows the user to become a full giraffe or a half-giraffe hybrid. Eaten by Kaku.
Hito Hito no Mi (Human) series
  • Hito Hito no Mi (English versions: Human-Human Fruit) - Allows any animal that eats it to get human characteristics like Tony Tony Chopper did when he ate the fruit.
  • Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Daibutsu (English versions: Human-Human Fruit, Daibutsu Model/Human-Human Fruit, Model: Buddha) - Allows the user to become a Daibutsu (a giant gold Buddha) or a half-Daibutsu hybrid. Eaten by Sengoku.
Tori Tori no Mi (Bird) series
Inu Inu no Mi (Dog) series
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Dachshund (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit/Mutt-Mutt Fruit, Dachshund Form/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Dachshund) - Allows the user to become a full dachshund or a half-dachshund hybrid. In the case of Babe's bazooka-like gun Lassoo, he became a dachshund/gun hybrid.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Jackal (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Jackal Strike/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Jackal/Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Jackal Model) - Allows the user to become a full jackal or a half-jackal hybrid. Eaten by Chaka.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Wolf (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Wolf Model/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Wolf) - Allows the user to become a full wolf or a half-wolf hybrid similar to a werewolf. Eaten by Jabra.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Tanuki - Allows the user to become a full tanuki or a half-tanuki hybrid. In the case of Tenguyama Hitetsu's teapot Bunbuku, he becomes a tanuki/teapot hybrid.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Kyubi no Kitsune (English version: Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Nine Tailed Fox) - Allows the user to become a full nine-tailed fox or a half-nine-tailed fox hybrid, and allows the user to become perfect clones of other people. Eaten by Catarina Devon.
Neko Neko no Mi (Cat) series
Zou Zou no Mi (Elephant) series
  • Zou Zou no Mi (English version: Elephant-Elephant Fruit/Eleph-Eleph Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full elephant or a half-elephant hybrid. In the case of Spandam's sword Funkfreed, he becomes an elephant/sword hybrid.
  • Zou Zou no Mi, Model: Mammoth (English version: Elephant-Elephant Fruit, Model: Mammoth) - Allows the user to become a full mammoth or a half-mammoth hybrid. Eaten by Jack.
Ryu Ryu no Mi (Dragon) series
Hebi Hebi no Mi (Snake) series
Sara Sara no Mi (Salamander) series
  • Sara Sara no Mi, Model: Axolotl (English version: Sala-Sala Fruit, Model: Axolotl) - Allows the user to become a full axolotl or a half-axolotl hybrid. In the case of Caesar Clown's slime Smiley, it became an axolotl/slime hybrid until it's death.
Mushi Mushi no Mi (Bug) series
  • Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Kabutomushi (English version: Bug-Bug Fruit, Model: Rhinoceros Beetle) - Allows the user to become a full rhinoceros beetle or a half-rhinoceros beetle hybrid. The user can also fly in either form. Eaten by Kabu.
  • Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Suzumebachi (English version: Bug-Bug Fruit, Model: Hornet) - Allows the user to become a full hornet or a half-hornet hybrid. The user can also fly in either form. Eaten by Bian.
Single model series
  • Mogu Mogu no Mi (English version: Diggy-Diggy Fruit/Mole-Mole Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full mole or a half-mole hybrid. The user can also dig underground. Eaten by Drophy.
  • Uma Uma no Mi (English version: Horse-Horse Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full horse or a half-horse hybrid. In the case of Gan Fall's pet bird Pierre, he resembles a Pegasus.
  • Kame Kame no Mi (English version: Turtle-Turtle Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full turtle or a half-turtle hybrid. In the case of Pekoms, he resembles a Tarasque
Unnamed Fruits

This section lists the Zoan Devil Fruits that haven't been identified yet.

  • Minotaurus' fruit which allows him to take the form of a Holstein cow.
  • Minokoala's fruit which allows him to take the form of a koala.
  • Minorhinoceros' fruit which allows him to take the form of a rhinoceros.
  • Minozebra's fruit which allows him to take the form of a zebra.
  • Onigumo's fruit that lets him sprout spider-like arms from his back as well as grow a spider's abdomen.
  • Dalmatian's fruit which allows him to turn into a dalmatian.
  • Epoida's fruit which allows him to turn into a caterpillar.
  • Minochihuahua's fruit which allows him to take the form of a chihuahua.
  • Kaido's fruit which allows him to transform into an eastern dragon.





logia

Logia fruits

  • Moku Moku no Mi (English Versions: Smoke-Smoke Fruit/Plume-Plume Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into smoke. Eaten by Smoker.
  • Suna Suna no Mi (English Versions: Sand-Sand Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into sand. The sand can dehydrate any non-metallic substance it touches. Eaten by Crocodile.
  • Mera Mera no Mi (English Versions: Flame-Flame Fruit/Flare-Flare Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into fire. Eaten by Portgas D. Ace until his death and later eaten by Sabo.
  • Goro Goro no Mi (English Versions: Rumble-Rumble Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into lightning. Eaten by Enel.
  • Hie Hie no Mi (English Versions: Chilly-Chilly Fruit/Ice-Ice Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into ice. Eaten by Kuzan.
  • Yami Yami no Mi (English Versions: Dark-Dark Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into darkness. The darkness has strong gravitational properties and the user has an infinite amount of space inside of their elemental body. Eaten by Marshall D. Teach.
  • Pika Pika no Mi (English Versions: Glint-Glint Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into light. Eaten by Borsalino.
  • Magu Magu no Mi (English Versions: Mag-Mag Fruit): Allows the user to create, create, and transform into magma. Eaten by Sakazuki.
  • Numa Numa no Mi (English Versions: Swamp-Swamp Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into mud. The user is a "bottomless swamp", granting them an infinite amount of space inside their elemental body. The mud can take on the properties of quicksand. Eaten by Caribou.
  • Gasu Gasu no Mi (English Versions: Gas-Gas Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into gas. Eaten by Caesar Clown.
  • Yuki Yuki no Mi (English Versions: Snow-Snow Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into snow. Eaten by Monet until her death.


 

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Re: Strongest DF,not based on the Chr.

Use it yes, but don't tell me you think Helmeppo, for example, would be as threatening as Whitebeard with it. Point is, the user can still be killed and it's a lot easier if he can't take hundreds of bullets and shit like WB did.

I'm leaning towards either lightning logia or to fire logia. Fire because SheeDeD mentioned there would be no limit to the heat. Lightings can heat air up to 30,000 degrees Celsius and white and blue flames can reach almost 5,000 degrees. You'd be unstoppable in real world, where there is no seastone or Haki. Which is more than we can say about any paramecia.
oh, true.

Thinking about it, I'd probably gear towards lightning as well. Yami yami, gura gura, and lightning seem to be powerful, along with lava. Might put gura gura on top just because it can destroy the entire world.
 

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Re: Strongest DF,not based on the Chr.

I'd lean towards Yami Yami and Gura Gura as strongest. I like Aokiji, Akainu, and Kizaru's fruit a lot, too. I'm curious how to rank devil fruit with useful powers that are not directly used for attack. Mr. 2's ability is splendid, but strength does not really apply. I also really like Issho's ability, but it has not been named, so is not yet eligible. I'd put mera mera no mi and Enel's lightning on the next tier down. Sengoku's ability, Law's, and Marco's also are impressive.

So, is Yami yami #1 to you? Because the fruit sucks in wrong hands. Just imagine some weakling having it and going through all that pain.
But the same is applicable to any weapon, in real life or in manga. The sword is only as strong as the swordsman. An incompetent swordsman does not make the weapon any less sharp. The same could be applied to any devil fruit. A weaker, less creative fighter would not be able to use the gomu gomu no mi as effectively as Luffy. That does not make the ability any weaker, nor does Luffy's prowess make the fruit any stronger. If we are going to discuss devil fruit ability in the abstract it would be useful to discuss potential strength, rather than introduce a hypothetical user's strength as a variable. That variable is built in already, as we know every devil fruit would be weaker in the hands of a less capable user, growing stronger in direct proportion to the users strength. The Yami Yami no Mi has the most debilitating side effect of any fruit. The caveat must be added that it's use could even kill a weaker user. That does not change what a powerful weapon the Yami Yami no Mi is. It's nullification and gravity based powers are among the most devastating known attacks in the manga. Correct usage by a strong user is a must for all devil fruit. The consequences for weakness are magnified by the Yami Yami no Mi's side effects. As a weapon it is proven to be among the most devastating devil fruit so far introduced.
 
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Re: Strongest DF,not based on the Chr.

hana hana no mi in the hands of someone like garp would be the best df for one on one fights imo. purely for destruction i would say the gura gura no mi be best. and over all, one of the best dfs just for doing all kinds of crazy shit seems to be the ito ito no mi.
 

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Re: Strongest DF,not based on the Chr.

hana hana no mi in the hands of someone like garp would be the best df for one on one fights imo. purely for destruction i would say the gura gura no mi be best. and over all, one of the best dfs just for doing all kinds of crazy shit seems to be the ito ito no mi.
Hana Hana no Mi would be interesting in the hands of an armament haki user. Haki infused fists sprouting up around an opponent would be pretty awesome. Ito Ito no Mi is okay. For some reason I find it a little boring.
 

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Re: Strongest DF,not based on the Chr.

The phoenix fruit deserves a mention... In a fight with equal haki and equal physical capacities (ideal conditions to see how strong a fruit is) I would think the fruit would give the best amount of flexibility. Aerial combat, although not as strong in offense as regular zoans considering it does not have a proper hybrid form, strong claws, and a great degree of immortality. It depends on stamina from what I can tell but being able to heal damage at the cost of stamina is still better than just fighting and accumulating damage.

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The darkness fruit is a given here though considering that the fruit in itself is a counter to DF. With equal abilities and haki the fruit gives the user a huge advantage.
 

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Re: Strongest DF,not based on the Chr.

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Discuss the topic here in more detail.

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Re: Strongest DF,not based on the Chr.

The phoenix fruit deserves a mention... In a fight with equal haki and equal physical capacities (ideal conditions to see how strong a fruit is) I would think the fruit would give the best amount of flexibility. Aerial combat, although not as strong in offense as regular zoans considering it does not have a proper hybrid form, strong claws, and a great degree of immortality. It depends on stamina from what I can tell but being able to heal damage at the cost of stamina is still better than just fighting and accumulating damage.

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The darkness fruit is a given here though considering that the fruit in itself is a counter to DF. With equal abilities and haki the fruit gives the user a huge advantage.
Maybe I should have given Gura Gura no Mi some more Credits but I need some time. However the phoenix is far from any Logia fruit IMP. But there are no such things till now 2 haki(s) are equal anyway. However, lets see, 2 persons with similar haki punch each other 1 is fire and the other is phoenix creature I guess the fire wont get hurt at all however he phoenix will get regenerated as you mention from the stamina. If this keeps on going for some time the phoenix creature will die.

the same will happen vs Doku Doku no Mi : Magellan, Gura Gura no Mi, Ope Ope no Mi : Trafalgar Law, Suna Suna no Mi : Crocodile, Mera Mera no Mi : Portagas D. Ace,5- Magu Magu no Mi : Sakazuki (Akainu), Goro Goro no Mi : Enel, Pika Pika no Mi : Borsalino (Kizaru), Nikyu Nikyu no Mi : Bartholomew Kuma, and Dark Dark No Mi: BlackBeard.


This one is tricky though Moku Moku no Mi: Smoker vs phoenix. Magelan's DF is not Logia I know but the phoenix creature might win i dont know i need some thinking to do . I can't decide. I need to think about it. I hope I heard from you whether u agree or disagree with the above.

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Devil fruits can't do anything on their own so the user is required. I thought the thread is about the fruits that are strong without regard to their user. Yami yami has some drawbacks, as we've seen. Not being able to avoid attacks, experiencing hightened sense of pain, drawing opponents toward yourself. That's why Yami yami is not so scary if it's possesed by someone with bad consitution. Gura gura is scary yes, but we come across the user vulnerability territory again.

If it were real life, I'd bet more on intangible logia.
Indeed some drawbacks. However, if u are talking about the fight between Ace and BB. i would rather make like this. Two Persons one has Fire Fire fuit and one has Dark Dark Fruit. Each other do the most powerful or any other attack if the user of the dark dark fruit is not careless he would suck all the attacks before they reach him

The question that matters is can he(the imaginary user of Dark Dark fruit) absorb any attack, My answer is yes. If you answer the same question with no then all you have to do present you #1 fruit and we can discuss. However, if u just say Dark Dark fruit is your #1 we cant go anywhere from there.


Our main character(the hero who will save the world) is not Logia though please don't make this about characters. So you lose your bet by this post. because the hero will always win in the end I place my bet on the hero power:D. In real life situation you are winning the bet.
 
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Re: Strongest DF,not based on the Chr.

Maybe I should have given Gura Gura no Mi some more Credits but I need some time. However the phoenix is far from any Logia fruit IMP. But there are no such things till now 2 haki(s) are equal anyway. However, lets see, 2 persons with similar haki punch each other 1 is fire and the other is phoenix creature I guess the fire wont get hurt at all however he phoenix will get regenerated as you mention from the stamina. If this keeps on going for some time the phoenix creature will die.

the same will happen vs Doku Doku no Mi : Magellan, Gura Gura no Mi, Ope Ope no Mi : Trafalgar Law, Suna Suna no Mi : Crocodile, Mera Mera no Mi : Portagas D. Ace,5- Magu Magu no Mi : Sakazuki (Akainu), Goro Goro no Mi : Enel, Pika Pika no Mi : Borsalino (Kizaru), Nikyu Nikyu no Mi : Bartholomew Kuma, and Dark Dark No Mi: BlackBeard.


This one is tricky though Moku Moku no Mi: Smoker vs phoenix. Magelan's DF is not Logia I know but the phoenix creature might win i dont know i need some thinking to do . I can't decide. I need to think about it. I hope I heard from you whether u agree or disagree with the above.
I just suggested those as condition in which what would matter are the abilities of the fruit more than the abilities of the users, obviously that is a extremely unlikely scenario. Why wouldn't the fire user get hurt though? The phoenix user is a haki user meaning that any hit that connects causes actual damage. In turn the phoenix user can take the hit (and many more) without suffering particularly severe consequences. The regenerating abilities of the phoenix fruit would also effectively negate significant amounts of poison damage IMO, the user would simply heal from the damage the poison causes. Its an ideal fruit to get close to the moku user at relatively little immediate risk. In this scenario my take is that to beat the phoenix fruit you would need to be able to dish out significantly more damage to the phoenix without taking any significant hits. I mean, marco got holes in his head and vital organs multiple times and that did not even bother him.
 

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Nori nori no mi is severely underrated. You can slow up someone immensely, which is useful against fast opponents, and attack them so after the devil fruit effect ends, they receive all the damage in one go. Great defense and offense in one.
 

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Re: Strongest DF,not based on the Chr.

Hana Hana no Mi would be interesting in the hands of an armament haki user. Haki infused fists sprouting up around an opponent would be pretty awesome. Ito Ito no Mi is okay. For some reason I find it a little boring.
i dont find the ito ito no mi very interesting either. most of its uses are a massive stretch from what i would imagine one being able to do with it. limited puppeteering, cutting and the flying are alright. but the clone, birdcage, the sheer range and the control he seems to have over people are a bit of a stretch. all that said it doesn't take away how strong and versitle it is though.
 

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The hobi hobi no mi is super strong, imagine Garp still in his prime because he doesn't get old! :zomg Also the contract thing is so strong and manipulating people's memories can be pretty useful too.
 

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noro noro no mi from Foxy has alot potentional i think.

Imagen if he'd master the noro noro fruit.

Few attacks

Noro Noro Pulse (creates a giant noro pulse slowing down all objects around him in a large area, like laws ''room'')
Noro Noro removal (speeds up a object or himself for 30 seconds instead of slowing him)
Noro noro warp (create a wormhole, time traveling to future or the past as the user pleases)
Noro noro armor ( has a permanent noro noro particles around him, slowing down every attack that gets close to him)
 

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noro noro no mi from Foxy has alot potentional i think.
Agreed.
If for example Roronoa Zoro mastered the fruit, he could slow down anyone for 30 seconds and with Haki just slash away with his best moves for 30 seconds straight.
He'd be like Admiral level at a minimum.
 

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Re: Wasted Devil Fruits

And Shu seems like a rather random addition. When I think of a DF wasted on its user, Foxy's Noro no Mi comes straight to mind.
Whilst Foxy is a waste, Shu is also a massive waste.

The ability to rust metallic equipment.
If someone had mastered the fruit, they could go around ruining ships by rusting the metal off of it, With Haki, they could not only put up a good fight but just ruin the lives of many townsfolk by rusting everything metal in sight, swords wouldn't work against him either. That's hack.
 

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Re: Wasted Devil Fruits

Whilst Foxy is a waste, Shu is also a massive waste.

The ability to rust metallic equipment.
If someone had mastered the fruit, they could go around ruining ships by rusting the metal off of it, With Haki, they could not only put up a good fight but just ruin the lives of many townsfolk by rusting everything metal in sight, swords wouldn't work against him either. That's hack.
Yeah, but that's it. Probably pretty useful against metal ships, which is mostly the Marines, and swordsmen, but otherwise it's pretty limited. And considering that most fighters in the OP world aren't swordsmen, his ability is a lot less useful than most against those he's likely to come up against. Considering the scope of other DFs on this list, it ranks pretty low. He can rust out some metal fittings or a ship that he touches, a lot of the DFs we've seen would pretty much just destroy everything without qualms about what it's made of.
 

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Re: Strongest DF,not based on the Chr.

1-Nikyu Nikyu no mi (teletrasportation is pretty usefull, removing pain from bodies is so good, it can be used from distance so you can destroy things from afar) ->Kuma

2-Yami Yami no mi (allows DF stealing + vortex to destroy islands or warships+ it grants no movility but you can engage with that gravity) -> Kurohige

2-Hobi hobi no mi (no aging, insta-Ko except against strong CoA users, allows memory manipulation, the contract is pretty strong) -> Sugar

4-Ope ope no mi (allows heart stealing + swap bodies which could be used for infiltration + good for doctors + teletrasportation) -> Law

Edit: I can not decide my number 2, so there is a draw in the 2nd place.
 

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Again & Again :derp I was discussing with friends about this great & only anime .. ONE PIECE .. when this idea pop up !!

by the way, I'm that kind of person who use to watch & analyse ONE PIECE on daily basis ! at least 2 hours per day - up to 8 hours loool :teehee


Going back to the point ..

Do u remember Gekko Moriah ?? who can steal other beings' shadows with the use of the Kage Kage no Mi ..

To be honest .. its impossible to think of this fruit before Mr. ODA shows it to us !! :-_-

WHAT .. What if there is another fruit called "Devil Devil fruit" ?? :cheez

it works the same way as shadow shadow fruit !!
he's currently a member in BB pirates .. working in shadow (same as Sugar as she turns anything to toys by Hobi Hobi no Mi) only by touching !! :cheez

Moria can take the shadow by cutting it only !


WHAT IF .. he can take out any human devil power?? (in the War .. either he was afraid all the world would know about this fruit user OR he can't take out the power that easily)

WHAT IF .. he can make a deal with the devil power to stay calm & accept a new friend "another devil power" ??

What IF .. by this way any person can have 2 powers or more !!

What IF .. BB came to the battle prepared & made the deal already with his devil fruit in order to accept it ??



:teehee Hope this new idea will inspire us & lead us to new things in One Piece WORLD !! :)
 

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Basically, a Devil Fruit to steal other Devil Fruit powers? Blackbeard already said his Yami Yami no Mi can suck in other DF powers, so...
 

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WHAT .. What if there is another fruit called "Devil Devil fruit" ?? :cheez

it works the same way as shadow shadow fruit !!
he's currently a member in BB pirates .. working in shadow (same as Sugar as she turns anything to toys by Hobi Hobi no Mi) only by touching !! :cheez

Seems that you are speaking about Blackbeard here :P
Zeta42 already said it : Yami Yami no Mi can suck in other DF powers.
I don't think BB is the type of dude who's reliyng a lot on other people. He waited a very long time before finding this particular DF and I think there is a good reason : BB know that the Yami Yami no Mi is the only fruit that gaves you the power of taking other DF.
 
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