Discussion Devil Fruit Discussion Thread

[Erinyes]

Oh Pudding Memo memo no mi, and Viola's giro giro are also great options

I forgot a lot of interesting fruits, so decide to list* them here so you can click the link and check the ones youd like to pick. (source : picked the lists from wikia)

*listed only canon fruits.

paramecia

Paramecia fruits​

• Gomu Gomu no Mi (English versions: Gum-Gum Fruit): Turns the user's body into rubber, giving them the power to stretch, bounce, and inflate; as well as make them immune to electricity and near impervious to blunt-force attacks and bullets. Eaten by Monkey D. Luffy.
• Bara Bara no Mi (English versions: Chop-Chop Fruit): Allows the user to split their body into separate pieces, which the user can manipulate and make fly through the air. It also makes them immune to slashing attacks. Eaten by Buggy.
• Sube Sube no Mi (English versions: Slip-Slip Fruit/Smooth-Smooth Fruit): Makes the user's skin extremely smooth and slippery, causing things to slide off them. Eaten by Alvida.
• Bomu Bomu no Mi (English versions: Bomb-Bomb Fruit/Boom-Boom Fruit): Allows the user to create explosions from their body, as well as give explosive properties to their bodily secretions. Also makes the user immune to explosions. Eaten by Gem.
• Kiro Kiro no Mi (English versions: Kilo-Kilo Fruit): Allows the user to increase or decrease their body weight at will. Eaten by Mikita.
• Hana Hana no Mi (English versions: Flower-Flower Fruit): Allows the user to sprout duplicates of their body parts from any nearby surface. Eaten by Nico Robin.
• Doru Doru no Mi (English versions: Wax-Wax Fruit): Allows the user to create and control candle wax. Eaten by Galdino.
• Baku Baku no Mi (English versions: Munch-Munch Fruit): Allows the user to eat anything and transform their body to match the qualities of what they've recently eaten. Eaten by Wapol.
• Mane Mane no Mi (English versions: Clone-Clone Fruit): Allows the user to transform into a physical lookalike of another person. Eaten by Kurozumi Higurashi until her death and later eaten by Bentham.
• Supa Supa no Mi (English versions: Dice-Dice Fruit): Allows the user to transform any part of their body into a blade, thus gaining slashing abilities and making their skin as hard as steel. Eaten by Daz Bonez.
• Toge Toge no Mi (English versions: Spike-Spike Fruit): Allows the user to grow spikes from their body. Eaten by Zala.
• Ori Ori no Mi (English versions: Cage-Cage Fruit/Bind-Bind Fruit): Allows the user to create iron bindings on their opponents. Eaten by Hina.
• Bane Bane no Mi (English versions: Spring-Spring Fruit/Boing-Boing Fruit): Allows the user to turn their limbs into springs. Eaten by Bellamy.
• Ito Ito no Mi (English versions: String-String Fruit): Allows the user to create and control strings. Eaten by Donquixote Doflamingo.
• Noro Noro no Mi (English versions: Slow-Slow Fruit): Allows the user to emit special photons that slow down anything they touch for 30 seconds. Eaten by Foxy.
• Doa Doa no Mi (English versions: Door-Door Fruit): Allows the user to create and open doors on anything, including walls, living beings, and the even the air itself. Eaten by Blueno.
• Awa Awa no Mi (English versions: Bubble-Bubble Fruit): Allows the user to create and control soap bubbles that can clean anything, including strength. Eaten by Kalifa.
• Beri Beri no Mi (English versions: Berry-Berry Fruit): Allows the user to split their body into many spheres. Eaten by Very Good.
• Sabi Sabi no Mi (English versions: Rust-Rust Fruit): Allows the user to rust anything they touch, including organic material. Eaten by Shu.
• Shari Shari no Mi (English versions: Wheel-Wheel Fruit): Allows the user to turn their limbs into wheels. Eaten by Sharinguru.
• Horo Horo no Mi (English versions: Hollow-Hollow Fruit): Allows the user to create and control ghosts. The ghosts cause despair in the people they touch and are capable of self-destructing. The user can also make their own ghost leave their body. Eaten by Perona.
• Yomi Yomi no Mi (English versions: Revive-Revive Fruit): Allows the user to return to life after dying once already, as well as allow the user to make their returned soul temporarily leave their reanimated body. Eaten by Brook.
• Kage Kage no Mi (English versions: Shadow-Shadow Fruit): Allows the user to manifest and control shadows. Eaten by Gecko Moria.
• Suke Suke no Mi (English versions: Clear-Clear Fruit): Allows the user to become invisible, as well as make anything they touch invisible. Eaten by Absalom until his death and later eaten by Shiryu.
• Nikyu Nikyu no Mi (English versions: Paw-Paw Fruit): Gives the user paw pads on their hands that can repel anything they touch. Eaten by Bartholomew Kuma.
• Ope Ope no Mi (English versions: Op-Op Fruit): Allows the user to generate a sphere-like room, inside which they can manipulate anything. Eaten by Trafalgar D. Water Law.
• Shiro Shiro no Mi (English versions: Castle-Castle Fruit): Allows the user to become a living fortress equipped with cannons, as well as letting them shrink people and objects and house them inside their body. Eaten by Capone Bege.
• Wara Wara no Mi (English versions: Straw-Straw Fruit): Allows the user to create and control straw. They can attach other people's life forces to straw dolls, allowing the damage they take to transfer to the dolls and the people connected to them. Eaten by Basil Hawkins.
• Mero Mero no Mi (English versions: Love-Love Fruit): Allows the user to turn people that feel attraction for them into stone. Eaten by Boa Hancock.
• Doku Doku no Mi (English versions: Venom-Venom Fruit): Allows the user to create and control poison. Eaten by Magellan.
• Horu Horu no Mi (English versions: Horm-Horm Fruit): Allows the user to create special hormones and inject them into a persons body, changing their biochemistry. Eaten by Emporio Ivankov.
• Choki Choki no Mi (English versions: Snip-Snip Fruit): Allows the user to transform parts of their body into scissors. Anything cut by these scissors briefly gains the properties of paper. Eaten by Inazuma.
• Gura Gura no Mi (English versions: Tremor-Tremor Fruit): Allows the user to create quakes and shockwaves. Considered to be the most powerful Paramecia. Eaten by Edward Newgate and later stolen from him by Marshall D. Teach upon his death.
• Kira Kira no Mi: Allows the user to transform their body into diamond. Eaten by Jozu.
• Woshu Woshu no Mi (English versions: Wash-Wash Fruit): Allows the user to literally wash and fold a person as if they were laundry. It also makes the victim's heart cleaner. Eaten by Tsuru.
• Fuwa Fuwa no Mi (English versions: Float-Float Fruit): Allows the user to fly and make non-living things they touch levitate. Eaten by Shiki.
• Mato Mato no Mi (English versions: Mark-Mark Fruit): Allows the user to mark a person as their target by touching them so that any weapon thrown with that same hand will chase after the marked target. Eaten by Vander Decken IX.
• Fuku Fuku no Mi (English versions: Garb-Garb Jutsu): Allows the user to create clothing. Eaten by Kin'emon.
• Hobi Hobi no Mi (English versions: Hobby-Hobby Fruit): Allows the user to turn people into subservient toys, simultaneously erasing any memory of the victim from the minds of others. It also halts the user's aging. Eaten by Sugar.
• Buki Buki no Mi (English versions: Arms-Arms Fruit): Allows the user to transform their body into any kind of weapon. Eaten by Baby 5.
• Guru Guru no Mi (English versions: Spin-Spin Fruit): Allows the user to make any part of their body spin like a propeller. Eaten by Buffalo.
• Beta Beta no Mi (English versions: Stick-Stick Fruit): Allows the user to create and control mucus. Eaten by Trebol.
• Zushi Zushi no Mi: Allows the user to manipulate gravity. Eaten by Issho.
• Bari Bari no Mi (English versions: Barrier-Barrier Fruit): Allows the user to create barriers. Eaten by Kurozumi Semimaru until his death and later eaten by Bartolomeo.
• Nui Nui no Mi (English versions: Stitch-Stitch Power): Allows the user to stitch things together. Eaten by Leo.
• Giro Giro no Mi (English versions: Glare-Glare Fruit): Allows the user to see through solid objects, as well as read people's minds and memories. Eaten by Viola.
• Ato Ato no Mi (English versions: Art-Art Fruit): Allows the user to transform people and objects into art. Eaten by Giolla.
• Jake Jake no Mi (English versions: Jacket-Jacket Fruit): Allows the user to transform into a jacket and control the body of the person wearing them. Eaten by Kelly Funk.
• Pamu Pamu no Mi (English versions: Pop-Pop Fruit): Allows the user to expand and rupture their body, as well as any inorganic object they touch. Eaten by Gladius.
• Sui Sui no Mi (English versions: Swim-Swim Fruit): Allows the user to swim freely in the ground and walls. Eaten by Senor Pink.
• Ton Ton no Mi (English versions: Ton-Ton Fruit): Allows the user to drastically increase their body weight. Eaten by Machvise.
• Hira Hira no Mi (English versions: Ripple-Ripple Fruit): Allows the user to give anything they touch the properties of fabric, making it thin, flexible, and fluttering. Eaten by Diamante.
• Ishi Ishi no Mi (English versions: Stone-Stone Fruit): Allows the user to assimilate into and control stone. Eaten by Pica.
• Nagi Nagi no Mi (English versions: Calm-Calm Fruit): Allows the user to nullify sounds. Eaten by Donquixote Rosinante until his death.
• Chiyu Chiyu no Mi (English versions: Heal-Heal Fruit): Allows the user to heal people's wounds. Eaten by Mansherry.
• Soru Soru no Mi (English versions: Soul-Soul Fruit): Allows the user to extract people's souls and use them to bring objects to life. Eaten by Carmel until her death and later eaten by Charlotte Linlin.
• Mira Mira no Mi (English versions: Mirror-Mirror Fruit): Allows the user to create mirrors that reflect attacks and act as entrances to the Mirro-World. Eaten by Charlotte Brûlée.
• Pero Pero no Mi (English versions: Lick-Lick Fruit): Allows the user to create and control candy. Eaten by Charlotte Perospero.
• Bisu Bisu no Mi (English versions: Bis-Bis Fruit): Allows the user to create and control biscuits. Eaten by Charlotte Cracker.
• Bata Bata no Mi (English versions: Butter-Butter Fruit): Allows the user to create and control butter. Eaten by Charlotte Galette.
• Buku Buku no Mi (English versions: Book-Book Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate books, as well as trap people inside them. Eaten by Charlotte Mont-d'Or.
• Kuri Kuri no Mi (English versions: Cream-Cream Fruit): Allows the user to create and control cream. Eaten by Charlotte Opera.
• Shibo Shibo no Mi (English versions: Wring-Wring Fruit): Allows the user to drain liquid from people and objects. Eaten by Charlotte Smoothie.
• Memo Memo no Mi (English versions: Memo-Memo Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate people's memories. Eaten by Charlotte Pudding.
• Mochi Mochi no Mi (English versions: Mochi-Mochi Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into mochi. Eaten by Charlotte Katakuri. This Devil Fruit is noted to be a "special Paramecia".
• Hoya Hoya no Mi (English versions: Puff-Puff Fruit): Allows the user to summon a genie from their body. Eaten by Charlotte Daifuku.
• Netsu Netsu no Mi (English versions: Heat-Heat Fruit): Allows the user to emit high heat from their body. Eaten by Charlotte Oven.
• Kuku Kuku no Mi (English versions: Cook-Cook Fruit): Allows the user to transform objects into food. Eaten by Streusen.
• Gocha Gocha no Mi: Allows the user to fuse themselves with other people. Eaten by Charlotte Newshi.
• Oshi Oshi no Mi (English versions: Push-Push Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate the ground as if it were made of clay. Eaten by Morley.
• Kobu Kobu no Mi (English versions: Pump-Pump Fruit): Allows the user to rally people into fighting and awaken their latent potential. Eaten by Belo Betty.
• Toki Toki no Mi (English versions: Time-Time Ability): Allows the user to send themselves and others forward in time. Eaten by Kozuki Toki until her death.
• Juku Juku no Mi (English versions: Ripe-Ripe Jutsu): Allows the user to mature and decay inanimate objects. Eaten by Shinobu.

Unnamed Fruits

• Eustass Kid's fruit which allows him to manipulate magnetic forces.
• Jewelry Bonney's fruit which allows her to manipulate the age of any person, including herself.
• Scratchmen Apoo's fruit which allows him to morph body parts into instruments and use music as a weapon.
• Urouge's fruit which allows him to convert damage taken into strength, resulting in expanding muscles.
• Blamenco's fruit which creates pockets in his body that can store things such as a giant hammer.
• Sanjuan Wolf's fruit that makes him bigger than regular giants.
• Kurozumi Kanjuro's fruit that allows him to bring whatever he draws to life. Like Kin'emon, he refers to it as sorcery.
• Tama's fruit that allows her to create dango from her cheeks that make any animal that eats them tame and subservient.

zoan

Zoan fruits

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Ushi Ushi no Mi (Ox) series

• Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Bison (English versions: Ox-Ox Fruit/Ox-Ox Fruit, Bison Model/Ox-Ox Fruit, Bison Form) - Allows the user to become a full bison or a half-bison hybrid. Eaten by Dalton.
• Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Giraffe (English versions: English versions: Ox-Ox Fruit, Giraffe Model/Ox-Ox Fruit, Model: Giraffe) - Allows the user to become a full giraffe or a half-giraffe hybrid. Eaten by Kaku.

Hito Hito no Mi (Human) series

• Hito Hito no Mi (English versions: Human-Human Fruit) - Allows any animal that eats it to get human characteristics like Tony Tony Chopper did when he ate the fruit.
• Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Daibutsu (English versions: Human-Human Fruit, Daibutsu Model/Human-Human Fruit, Model: Buddha) - Allows the user to become a Daibutsu (a giant gold Buddha) or a half-Daibutsu hybrid. Eaten by Sengoku.

Tori Tori no Mi (Bird) series

• Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Falcon (English version: Tweet-Tweet Fruit, Falcon Type/Bird-Bird Fruit, Model: Falcon) - Allows the user to become a full falcon or a half-falcon hybrid. Eaten by Pell.
• Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Phoenix - Allows the user to become a full phoenix or a half-phoenix hybrid. Eaten by Marco.
• Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Albatross - Allows the user to become a full albatross or a half-albatross hybrid. Eaten by Morgans.

Inu Inu no Mi (Dog) series

• Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Dachshund (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit/Mutt-Mutt Fruit, Dachshund Form/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Dachshund) - Allows the user to become a full dachshund or a half-dachshund hybrid. In the case of Babe's bazooka-like gun Lassoo, he became a dachshund/gun hybrid.
• Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Jackal (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Jackal Strike/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Jackal/Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Jackal Model) - Allows the user to become a full jackal or a half-jackal hybrid. Eaten by Chaka.
• Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Wolf (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Wolf Model/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Wolf) - Allows the user to become a full wolf or a half-wolf hybrid similar to a werewolf. Eaten by Jabra.
• Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Tanuki - Allows the user to become a full tanuki or a half-tanuki hybrid. In the case of Tenguyama Hitetsu's teapot Bunbuku, he becomes a tanuki/teapot hybrid.
• Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Kyubi no Kitsune (English version: Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Nine Tailed Fox) - Allows the user to become a full nine-tailed fox or a half-nine-tailed fox hybrid, and allows the user to become perfect clones of other people. Eaten by Catarina Devon.

Neko Neko no Mi (Cat) series

• Neko Neko no Mi, Model: Leopard (English version: Cat-Cat Fruit, Model: Leopard) - Allows the user to become a full leopard or a half-leopard hybrid. Eaten by Rob Lucci.

Zou Zou no Mi (Elephant) series

• Zou Zou no Mi (English version: Elephant-Elephant Fruit/Eleph-Eleph Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full elephant or a half-elephant hybrid. In the case of Spandam's sword Funkfreed, he becomes an elephant/sword hybrid.
• Zou Zou no Mi, Model: Mammoth (English version: Elephant-Elephant Fruit, Model: Mammoth) - Allows the user to become a full mammoth or a half-mammoth hybrid. Eaten by Jack.

Ryu Ryu no Mi (Dragon) series

• Ryu Ryu no Mi, Model: Allosaurus (English version: Dragon-Dragon Fruit, Model: Allosaurus) - Allows the user to become a full Allosaurus or a half-Allosaurus hybrid. Eaten by X Drake.
• Ryu Ryu no Mi, Model: Spinosaurus (English version: Dragon-Dragon Fruit, Model: Spinosaurus) - Allows the user to become a full Spinosaurus or a half-Spinosaurus hybrid. Eaten by Page One.
• Ryu Ryu no Mi, Model: Pteranodon (English version: Dragon-Dragon Fruit, Model: Pteranodon) - Allows the user to become a full Pteranodon or a half-Pteranodon hybrid. Eaten by King.
• Ryu Ryu no Mi, Model: Brachiosaurus (English version: Dragon-Dragon Fruit, Model: Brachiosaurus) - Allows the user to become a full Brachiosaurus or a half-Brachiosaurus hybrid. Eaten by Queen.

Hebi Hebi no Mi (Snake) series

• Hebi Hebi no Mi, Model: King Cobra (English version: Snake-Snake Fruit, Model: King Cobra) - Allows the user to become a full king cobra or a half-king cobra hybrid. Eaten by Boa Marigold.
• Hebi Hebi no Mi, Model: Anaconda (English version: Snake-Snake Fruit, Model: Anaconda) - Allows the user to become a full anaconda or a half-anaconda hybrid. Eaten by Boa Sandersonia.
• Hebi Hebi no Mi, Model: Yamata no Orochi (English version: Snake-Snake Fruit, Model: Yamata-no-Orochi) - Allows the user to become a full Yamata no Orochi or a half-Yamata no Orochi hybrid. Eaten by Kurozumi Orochi.

Sara Sara no Mi (Salamander) series

• Sara Sara no Mi, Model: Axolotl (English version: Sala-Sala Fruit, Model: Axolotl) - Allows the user to become a full axolotl or a half-axolotl hybrid. In the case of Caesar Clown's slime Smiley, it became an axolotl/slime hybrid until it's death.

Mushi Mushi no Mi (Bug) series

• Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Kabutomushi (English version: Bug-Bug Fruit, Model: Rhinoceros Beetle) - Allows the user to become a full rhinoceros beetle or a half-rhinoceros beetle hybrid. The user can also fly in either form. Eaten by Kabu.
• Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Suzumebachi (English version: Bug-Bug Fruit, Model: Hornet) - Allows the user to become a full hornet or a half-hornet hybrid. The user can also fly in either form. Eaten by Bian.

Single model series

• Mogu Mogu no Mi (English version: Diggy-Diggy Fruit/Mole-Mole Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full mole or a half-mole hybrid. The user can also dig underground. Eaten by Drophy.
• Uma Uma no Mi (English version: Horse-Horse Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full horse or a half-horse hybrid. In the case of Gan Fall's pet bird Pierre, he resembles a Pegasus.
• Kame Kame no Mi (English version: Turtle-Turtle Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full turtle or a half-turtle hybrid. In the case of Pekoms, he resembles a Tarasque

Unnamed Fruits

This section lists the Zoan Devil Fruits that haven't been identified yet.

• Minotaurus' fruit which allows him to take the form of a Holstein cow.
• Minokoala's fruit which allows him to take the form of a koala.
• Minorhinoceros' fruit which allows him to take the form of a rhinoceros.
• Minozebra's fruit which allows him to take the form of a zebra.
• Onigumo's fruit that lets him sprout spider-like arms from his back as well as grow a spider's abdomen.
• Dalmatian's fruit which allows him to turn into a dalmatian.
• Epoida's fruit which allows him to turn into a caterpillar.
• Minochihuahua's fruit which allows him to take the form of a chihuahua.
• Kaido's fruit which allows him to transform into an eastern dragon.

logia

Logia fruits​

• Moku Moku no Mi (English Versions: Smoke-Smoke Fruit/Plume-Plume Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into smoke. Eaten by Smoker.
• Suna Suna no Mi (English Versions: Sand-Sand Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into sand. The sand can dehydrate any non-metallic substance it touches. Eaten by Crocodile.
• Mera Mera no Mi (English Versions: Flame-Flame Fruit/Flare-Flare Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into fire. Eaten by Portgas D. Ace until his death and later eaten by Sabo.
• Goro Goro no Mi (English Versions: Rumble-Rumble Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into lightning. Eaten by Enel.
• Hie Hie no Mi (English Versions: Chilly-Chilly Fruit/Ice-Ice Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into ice. Eaten by Kuzan.
• Yami Yami no Mi (English Versions: Dark-Dark Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into darkness. The darkness has strong gravitational properties and the user has an infinite amount of space inside of their elemental body. Eaten by Marshall D. Teach.
• Pika Pika no Mi (English Versions: Glint-Glint Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into light. Eaten by Borsalino.
• Magu Magu no Mi (English Versions: Mag-Mag Fruit): Allows the user to create, create, and transform into magma. Eaten by Sakazuki.
• Numa Numa no Mi (English Versions: Swamp-Swamp Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into mud. The user is a "bottomless swamp", granting them an infinite amount of space inside their elemental body. The mud can take on the properties of quicksand. Eaten by Caribou.
• Gasu Gasu no Mi (English Versions: Gas-Gas Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into gas. Eaten by Caesar Clown.
• Yuki Yuki no Mi (English Versions: Snow-Snow Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into snow. Eaten by Monet until her death.

 

[Impel Down]

I don't really understand how that would work, besides shining very strong light, which, to me, would not be very useful unless you're doing rescue or something. And against Moria, all it would do is move Doppelman to behind Moria.

 

[Imitorar]

I don't really understand how that would work, besides shining very strong light, which, to me, would not be very useful unless you're doing rescue or something. And against Moria, all it would do is move Doppelman to behind Moria.

Ever burnt a leaf by focusing sunlight through a magnifying glass? Light focusing could be useful for that. It could be used to create illusions, burn through things, improve vision... it's a very useful power, there are all sorts of things that could be done with it. And if you made light shine from all around the room, then there would be nowhere to cast a shadow, leaving Moria defenseless. That's like saying that the Mera Mera no Mi couldn't beat the Hie Hie no Mi because it would melt the ice and be extinguished. That's very illogical, and would be a stupid way to set up the powers. It's the same thing here. They're opposites, of course one would defeat the other and render it powerless.

 

[Impel Down]

Shadows and light aren't really opposites. Technically, darkness and light should be opposites, but BB really has nothing to do with true darkness, more, he focuses on...nothing. He controls Nothing.

And if a Kira Kira no Mi (I think that's light) could burn things, then wouldn't that be like the Mera Mera no mi?

 

[Imitorar]

Blackbeard is a Black Hole. He controls gravity, if anything. And a shadow is just something blocking out light. And the absence of light is darkness. Ergo, a shadow is darkness, which is the opposite of light. And it'd be a different sort of burning. Though you might be right that it wouldn't burn at all, it'd just produce flashes. If anything, that's more likely. But there's still alot you could do with that.

 

[Impel Down]

You make my head hurt in bad places...

But really, if the Kira Kira no mi were to be used against Moria, that would make his shadow move behind him, if you think about it. I guess that is kinda useful, since he'd be wide open.

 

[Imitorar]

Or again, you could make light shine from all around the room. Think about it, if you were standing in a room whose walls, floor, and ceiling were light-bulbs, would you cast a shadow? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't. It's the same thing. Just leave a giant ball of light at each surface and Moria can't cast any shadow, leaving him defenseless.

Oh, and sorry about your head...?

 

[Dhomochevsky]

I think that Blackbeard basically has the power of gravity. Gravity is caused by mass though so he can freely control his mass. If he wants to suck something in, he increases his mass as much as he can. When he wants to release something, he lowers his mass.
If he had the power of a real blackhole, he would have sucked the entire solar system and then some inside he already.

I never thought about a Kira Kira no Mi vs the Mera Mera no Mi. That brings up all sorts of weird ideas but all these physics problems are making me question what little I remember

 

[Impel Down]

IMO, someone with a Mera Mera no mi would fare better against someone with a Kira Kira no mi, assuming this non-existant DF isn't Logia. Focusing a beam of light at someone who
A) Is fire.
B) Can...attack
C) Could just blow out of the way

 

[Imitorar]

It probably WOULD be a Logia, though. And fights between two Logia users are always pretty interesting. So it'd be more then just shooting light and fire at each other. (Okay, so we've only seen two. At least, two that I can remember. But they were very good! They were Smoker vs. Ace and Blackbeard vs. Ace, by the way.) Blindness, burns, there are all sorts of things they could throw at each other.

 

[Dhomochevsky]

The problem I've been thinking about with Mera Mera no Mi vs Kira Kira no Mi is how could you hit something that moves at the speed of light? Another issue is that fire produces light so the Mera Mera no Mi might be able to do some of the same attacks as the Kira Kira no Mi...

Any fight that involves a Logia type is interesting (especially when Luffy is involved). I always wondered exactly how the Smoker vs Ace fight ended since they both seemed to survive with minor injuries. It seems to me that all the Logia types are pretty evenly matched against each other. I don't know if any would fare better against each other. For example, enough water can put out a fire but enough fire can evaporate water. I think a lot of it boils down to the person own fighting ability and determination.

 

[Impel Down]

Well, Smoke and Fire kind of go hand in hand, so I guess that's why their fight didn't do very much. Now, a fight with Logia users that are more diverse, like let's say Enel v. Crocodile, might be different. I don't know how, but it probably would be.

 

[Dhomochevsky]

Anything could happen in a fight like Crocodile vs Enel. I personal think Ace vs Aokiji would be one of the best Logia fights. Fire and ice are always thought of as opposites.

 

[Impel Down]

Yeah, I think that Ao Kiji v. Ace would be an awesome fight. Not entirely sure how it would work, though. Would both of their attacks damage the other, because fire melts ice and Ao Kiji's ice attacks would have water on them?

 

[Imitorar]

Enel would turn Crocodile into glass, probably. The heat would turn the sand into glass. Though Ace could do that too. And Crocodile could Enel in glass so he couldn't move. It would be awesome, but unlikely. Ah well, there's always dojinshi. And I am waiting for the day that Ace and Aokiji fight. It will come, one day. *smiles optimistically*

 

[Impel Down]

I don't even think Ao Kiji will ever fight again in the series, personally. Well, he probably will, but I can't think of any time or reason that he would.

 

[Dhomochevsky]

Aokiji will definitely fight again. Isn't he supposed to be one of the best marine fighters? It seems to me with his attitude though, someone will have to force him to fight. Luffy tried to him so I could see Ace goading Aokiji into a fight.

Can any Logia type truly kill each other though? If Ace got frozen (can he even get frozen?) he'd melt through the ice. If Aokiji was melted, I could see him re-freezing himself some way. For Enel vs Crocodile, if Crocodile absorbed enough moisture I don't think he'd turn to glass.

 

[Impel Down]

Ao Kiji could hurt Ace because there's a layer of water outside of ice, so both could wound the other.

And as to whether a Logia could truly kill the other: Blackbeard. Thread over, I win.

 

[Dhomochevsky]

Ao Kiji could hurt Ace because there's a layer of water outside of ice, so both could wound the other.

Sorry but I'm not really following your logic here. Where did this layer of water outside the ice come from? Water doesn't always put out fire; take a grease fire for instance.

Blackbeard I understand though but does that mean that Ace is dead? Also, doesn't the Yami Yami no Mi also have the power to nullify other devil fruit abilities? I'm pretty sure I remember reading something like that so I'm beginning to think that Blackbeard doesn't control gravity or is a blackhole. Instead, I believe he has the power of a vacuum or empty space (which is dark).

 

[Imitorar]

But that doesn't explain why objects don't go through him and in fact, hit him harder. Being a black hole and controlling gravity does. And that still explains his ability to nullify Devil Fruits. He can use gravity to stop the vibrations of the Devil Fruit inside the person. Though he says it's because the Dark Dark Fruit really does have the power of the Devil, but I think my explanation makes sense too. And ice would have a layer of water on the outside due to the fact that it'd be melting if it weren't below 32 degrees Fahrenheit and 0 degrees Celsius around the ice, which it probably isn't. Most places aren't that cold usually, even in One Piece, except for Drum Island.

 

[Impel Down]

Well, doesn't he absorb the attack, so it doesn't wound him, but he still takes the damage? I'm not totally sure, but I believe that's what he said. And Dhomo, no, I don't mean that Ace is dead, but, Yami Yami no mi is what I believe the only other Logia that can truly kill another Logia.

And thanks for explaining the ice-water thing, Imotar.