Anime DGM Theater Hang Out Thread

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Re: DGM Episode 103 (END)

I'm going to move these posts to the DGM Theater Hang Out Thread since we are going off-topic.

Is it really that poor if not compare to the 3(Naruto, Bleach and One Piece)?
I mean, Naruto and Bleach is like 3-4% while D Gray Man is around 1.5-2% which IMO is not that bad and far from those two.
1% equals to 1 million viewers. From what I read on 2ch, SJ anime are expected to get around 3-5 million viewers so the DGM anime did lower than expected.

Off topic->Did anyone know what's the TV rating for Hitman Reborn cause both D Gray Man and Hitman Reborn is popular in the manga and both TV series aired on the same year and month. Wanna compare the 2 Tv rating.
I know that an episode of Reborn was considered one of the best 100 episodes in 2007. I'll add the info here later since I have to look for it. Here it is:

月刊アミューズメント・ジャーナル2008年10月号より
2007年キャラクターランキングBEST100
2007年の小売市場規模は1兆5936億円(前年比0.5%減)

16位 ドラゴンボールシリーズ 269億円
21位 NARUTOーナルトー 159億円
30位 ワンピース 95億円
33位 遊☆戯☆王 82億円
37位 銀魂 74億円
55位 BLEACH-ブリーチ- 47億円
67位 テニスの王子様 38億円
92位 家庭教師ヒットマンREBORN! 20億円
98位 DEATH NOTE デスノート 19億円


Dグレはランク外

I have read some news from other forums, saying that anime team was still looking for the script for season 3. (they didn't confirm but it will be totally uncertain becoz of the hiatus)
I'm just wondering but, what is their source? The DGM anime thread on 2ch did not mention anything about a third season; they would have at least post a magazine scan or text mentioning about it. Right now, the 2chers on that thread are just hoping for an OVA to be announced.

DGM is still profitable (sales of DVD are fine, but not great which is close to reborn hitman) and trading cards are still selling well.
From what I have read, they do not considered DVD sales when they determined whether or not to keep the anime. Instead they looked at other merchandise (e.g. plushies, cups, etc.).
 
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so if the low ranking is the only reason for cancelling DGM, its a bit unfair to DGM when the boardcast time is 6pm. People usually watch it online , including foreign audience. If they totally base on rating without considering DVD sales, Im sure, We will not have DGM season 3 or OVA

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Considering no manga or anime, probably it will lose some fans (I will quit if the hiatus is too long without reason)
 
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This week's Hey, Answerman! provided some interesting tidbit on how an anime is produced:

Hey, Answerman!
I've been seeing all these [insert show here] has been green lit for production or will be coming out in so and so season/date/etc. I was wondering: how do the anime production studios (J.C. Staff, Production I.G., etc) choose what they will make into a show? Popularity is probably one factor, but are there others.


This question totally threw me for a loop - it's terrific, for one thing, and also I had no idea exactly how to answer it. I'm sort of a connoisseur for behind-the-scenes shenanigans, but the notoriously secretive production arms that fund and produce the vast majority of anime are notoriously tight-lipped about the actual pitch process. So I hit up our resident expert Justin Sevakis:

A show getting green-lit depends entirely on the show's ability to find a sponsor. The pitch might originate at an anime studio (like the ones named in the question). These tend to be the shows that are original stories, but the vast majority are pitched by the sponsors, which could be the manga publisher, who's out to use the anime to promote merchandise or the original manga, or a media company like Media Factory or Geneon Japan or Bandai Visual, who are interested in using the TV broadcast to promote the eventual DVD release. (The vast majority of late-night anime are controlled by these media companies. If you watch them on TV in Japan, every commercial is for their own product. The broadcasts themselves are paid for; the entire airing is basically an infomercial for the DVD.) The studios that actually produce the anime itself are usually just doing the work for hire.

How it works is this: a company with an idea (which might come from a staff artist, or a director that works with the studio) brainstorms how that idea could be monetized, and who might be interested in investing in that possibility. For example, if Madhouse comes up with an idea for a show they might go to VAP or Klockworx to see if they want to pay up-front for the DVD rights, to an advertiser like Pizza Hut for product placement, and then to Tomy or Bandai for toy rights. For a very mainstream show, the TV network might find the show valuable enough to throw in some money for the broadcast rights as well. Together these companies form a "production committee," or "seisaku iinkai". Everyone who put in money gets a say in the show itself, but the most power is held by whoever put up the most money, the "Grand Sponsor." Ever wonder what's up with that introduction after the show opening, "This program was brought to you by our grand sponsor"? That's them. The "original creator" (be it the person whose idea it was, or the manga artist) gets a lot of say as well.

The "seisaku iinkai" method has made it possible to continue coming up with enough money to produce anime since the burst of the bubble economy in the 90s. Unfortunately, it also bogs down the shows in a nightmare-inducing amount of red tape. Since every sponsor gets sign-off rights, everyone has to be consulted and agree to things like international rights sales, and sometimes details as minuscule as packaging and dub casting. It's one of the major problems that has to be overcome as the industry tries to adapt to the realities of the internet age.

As Japan, along with the rest of the world, slips deeper into the current economic crisis, these sponsors are becoming more and more frugal with the shows they're able to sponsor (bad Japanese "reality" TV is sure a lot cheaper to make). So there are fewer and fewer shows originating from the creative minds at the anime studios themselves, and more that will be produced based on the decisions made by manga publishers and corporate sponsors looking to push the rights across multiple platforms of potential monetization.


Fascinating, innit?

So I am guessing that those investing in DGM were probably not satisfied with the show and decided not to invest in it anymore?
 

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I know this thread is a little old and all, but lets not lose all hope that DGM won't ever come back Katsura won't let all her fans down and leave it forever, as for the anime I heard it's supposed to continue sometime this year the reason they stopped producing the anime was because it kept catching up with the manga and I don't think we want a load of fillers, but this is only what I heard it's only a rumour but I still have faith in Katsura and excuse my rambling too XD
 

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Okay, this was just posted today on 2ch's DGM Anime thread:

312 :名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。:2009/07/21(火) 19:14:24 ID:vKwk6yQY
http://www.s-cast2.net/janbang/

今後の放送予定はこちらッ! ※ゲスト名は50音順で記載
◆7月24日 『こちら葛飾区亀有公園前派出所』
 ゲスト:有野晋哉(よゐこ)
◆7月31日 『NARUTO-ナルト-』劇場版
◆8月7日 『NARUTO-ナルト-』劇場版
◆8月14日 『D.Gray-man』劇場版               ←←←

 ゲスト:狩野英孝
◆8月21日 『べるぜバブ』『いぬまるだしっ』
 ゲスト:響、ぼれろ
Babelfish translated the bolded part as this:

* August 14th 'D.Gray-man' theater edition
The line below it is the guest seiyuu's name, I believe.

Hopefully more information will be revealed later on... :amuse
 
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Okay, this was just posted today on 2ch's DGM Anime thread:



Babelfish translated the bolded part as this:



The line below it is the guest seiyuu's name, I believe.

Hopefully more information will be revealed later on... :amuse
狩野英孝 (Kano Eikō) is ....a comedian......
 

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we might not be able to watch the show if nobody can upload the clip >.<
BTW, sounds strange they have DGM TV talk show (becoz of Akamaru Jump?)

but its still a gd news, thanks^^
 

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^No problem. Maybe someone on 2ch will upload it online. *crosses fingers*

Actually, the show focuses on all Shounen Jump products so I guess for that week, the theme will be D.Gray-man.

From what I read on 2ch, they are hoping the theater edition will be about the zombies arc. :XD
 
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Well, on July 31 it's gonna be aired a Naruto Shippuden Special called Kakashi's Gaiden & on August it's gonna be the premiere of a new Movie
◆7月31日 『NARUTO-ナルト-』劇場版
◆8月7日 『NARUTO-ナルト-』劇場版

so I guess they are cooking something new for the next months :D
◆8月14日 『D.Gray-man』劇場版
 ゲスト:狩野英孝
 

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Well, on July 31 it's gonna be aired a Naruto Shippuden Special called Kakashi's Gaiden & on August it's gonna be the premiere of a new Movie



so I guess they are cooking something new for the next months :D
thats what I thought.....劇場版 ,the name itself ,has nothing to do with Akamaru Jump. So I guess they indeed have something new with DGM. (30mins show is too much to talk about Akamaru Jump ONLY):tem:tem:tem

this is their previous schedule (um........, they had done reborn hitman, gintama before)
btw , thats him (狩野英孝)
 
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Hmm well maybe its about Hoshino herself as well? Like about her hiatus but indeed... talking about like 50 pages is a bit to much also they cant discuss content cause its just released as they speak bout DGM right?
So what they gonna talk 30 min on then?
 

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Rough translation of the Program Information section on the site:
The 3 magazines that receive overwhelming support from it's readers: 'Shonen Jump', 'Jump SQ' and 'V Jump', collaborate for a variety show with a new feel!

Focusing on ongoing serialized manga, it introduces content related to the magazines such as anime, games, events and more.

Each round, Akina Minami and Amerikazanigani will welcome various Jump related celebrities as guests, deliver Jump's appeal to non-readers, and give fans some in depth information.
'In depth' information huh? Now I'm kinda interested in this. Wonder if Hoshino will show up like ca12nag3 said...
 
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Got to be some good news i recon? Specialy if an entire show is going to be about DGM. Well DGM can use a mayor PRing id say.
But well DGM isnt as big anymore as Naruto or anything cause well Naruto and Bleach got massive merch and tv serialization,..so i wonder whats up with DGM that it deserves attention in the show...
 

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DGM is still one of the current popular works of Jump despite not being one of the Big 3, and it's still on-going so this should be good.

Actually, I'm kind of mindful about the '劇場版' (Movie version) label attatched to it. I'm not very fond of many anime movies and hope they won't butcher a DGM movie like they did with the anime. Also, from the talk show link Riki provided, the show might drop some previews of the upcoming chapter in Akamaru. At least, I hope so.

Damn, I'm so watching this on KeyholeTV (just in case no one uploads it >>).
 
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DGM anime is over for nearly one year n no way they will do 5th anniversary for DGM.

30mins for discussing new spoilers? nah, 30mins is more than enough (i would finish reading 50pages in 15mins)

An introduction of DGM? nah, not now lol

I guess they might really have a big news related to '劇場版'.

Remake of anime is not a possibility since the second half of anime followed exactly the same as its manga.(unlike FMA)
 

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But well i dont like to speculate ... a movie of like an hour or 2 wouldnt complete the story... there is just to much to tell.
They might do a transition movie tho? Like between transformers G1 and G2, such a thing i might like. In fact the Transformers Animated movie was a big hit back in the days.. makes me think back ^^.
But yet speculating wont help cause there is no new what so ever about anything being animated at all. But 30 min talking about 50p of manga...and about the cause of any hiatus would be plain boring tbh. You cant show to much of the manga anyways because of the release date etc. the 50p will take like 5 min? at the most or people will tune out lol.
So whats there to discuss i wonder....
 

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I have checked their previous shows while it seems they might invite someone to cosplay some charactors in the manga......:allen
Well, is the guest 狩野英孝 gonna cosplay Komui...(some 2chers wonder he will be singing the theme song of new movie :laser(if a new movie will actually come out)
 
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Woah!! This are such good news!!!
Thank you very much for share it Riki and, specialy to Siberia, i love you!!! :)

This is interesting. They're working hard on DGM (in the shadows?^^) Maybe they'll talk about the new coming chapter or about Hoshino...but still, i wonder, what can it be a "theater edicion"? The zombies arc could be a really funny thing to tell!! XD
Perfect for that and as an special out of the manga!

Nyah!! August will be such an interesting month!!! XDDD (*crap...i wont have internet conection then....T.T*).
What it's the hour of emission of that program in japan? Iĺl be stick to the keyhole too in order to see it!!! )))))))
 

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Cant find any recordings of that show to see how they work, like how they treat subjects etc. Bummer :(

Realy want to know what they are gonna talk about since well DGM hasnt been all that active for over half a year only few chapters were released and the anime ended last year.
Anyhow they got to have something big or else how do you fill 30min with DGM?
 
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