Did Ace Survive...

[damagichour]

No one dies in OP but i think there might be some side effect that happens to Ace like maybe he might lose his DF ability.

 

[OP_overlord]

No one dies in OP but i think there might be some side effect that happens to Ace like maybe he might lose his DF ability.

that would be so bad that was liek 1/2 of y i liked him he was stronger then luffy

 

[Tailsnake]

Ace without his abilities is stronger than Luffy with his ability, or at least he was when they were younger.

 

[Anti-panda]

Ace was beaten but not killed by BB, That way when luffy beats the crap out of bb sometime in the later future ,much later, It will go without saying that he has surpased Ace.
The event ... well imagine Whitebeard reaction when he finds out BB took out ace ... err at least beat him.

 

[OP_overlord]

Ace without his abilities is stronger than Luffy with his ability, or at least he was when they were younger.

im not to sure idk if ace can take a punch like BB said he has taken one in a while and luffy did beat a god

 

[War]

im not to sure idk if ace can take a punch like BB said he has taken one in a while and luffy did beat a god

Well, Eneru wasn't really a god though. xD

Anyway, I don't see why BB would keep Ace in a black hole. I think he would leave Ace defeated and Ace would go look for WB and tell him all about what had happened.

 

[xr3b0rn5inx]

I have a feeling Ace has died and Luffy will avenge his death by fighting againts Blackbeard ^ ^

 

[War]

I have a feeling Ace has died and Luffy will avenge his death by fighting againts Blackbeard ^ ^

Well, I feel its hardly improbable that Ace has died. He's one of the protagonists. Luffy doesn't need to fight BB only for revenge purposes. He could do it for other reasons.

 

[sahugani]

Well i believe ace will live for reasons totally unrelated to Luffy's revenge as it will be Shanks and the Redhairs that fight BB and his crew

 

[OP_overlord]

yeah i agree ace might just be used as a way to become a shcihubukai by BB and then Wb will have to get him out of the WG and that will be the incident

 

[jumbohiggins]

heres how i see it Ace got beat
but hes not dead luffy will find him and that will be his inspiration to fight BB

by the way heres how i predict the luffy BB fight will go their will be a ginormous build up to it and theyll be the last from their crews to fight
then luffy knocks out bb with one shot cuase hes so freaking strong and his rubber powers have no effect on his crazy strength

 

[jeffhmwong]

But How can luffy touch BB? By touching him, u loose all ur DF power. I dont think any non logia heros can beat BB.

Perhaps shanks might show some hidden powers (DF hopefully) when he meets BB.

I have a feeling Ace has died and Luffy will avenge his death by fighting againts Blackbeard ^ ^

WTF? Isnt what we hv been discussing all along?

 

[Anti-panda]

Oda himself has talked about a ban on death... IE. He doesn't feel that killing off cental or important characters is necessary or smart. They are defeated and then just stop being part of the main story. ( Most of them move on to Cover art mini stories. some come back and by some I mean buggy and alvidia.)
So I think Oda would be out of his mind if he killed off ace and then again he made things out so that pell survived.

 

[OP_overlord]

yeah it is all based on odas whim when he is drawing it that day but i hope he keeps ace around i forsee more stuff for him and luffy and maybe dragon too

i too think that the BB fight will be the last but shanksand WB will be there too and does anyone elsse see a growing resemblems between the redhaired crwe and the SH

 

[jumbohiggins]

But How can luffy touch BB? By touching him, u loose all ur DF power. I dont think any non logia heros can beat BB.

anyone can hit him its the weakness of his power remember thats why ace was able to fire blast him

 

[Anti-panda]

i too think that the BB fight will be the last but shanksand WB will be there too and does anyone elsse see a growing resemblems between the redhaired crwe and the SH

I see a resemblance between the redhair and strawhat crews, Luffy promised shanks that he would assemble a better crew than shank's crew and meet him out on the ocean. Then he would become pirate king. So at some point we should expect a really cool throwdown between those two crews.
Also it should be noted that Blackbeard was Oda's real life favorite pirate so we should expect his namesake within OP to be a villian and central figure for a long time. Or at least something amazing.
And as far as blackbeards powers go ... He's not invunerable. He said himself his power forces him to take the damage from attacks maybe even worsens the damage, But I'm not saying he's going to be anything close to a push over at all. (so dont expect a one hit-KO ~Jumbohiggins~)
Blackbeard and Luffy + respective crews race it out for the end of the grandline and One Piece. Thats my long term prediction.

 

[OP_overlord]

can he be hit moer then once by the same attack ... yeah right ace hit him twice with fire so all you need to do is stay away from him (eiser said then done i bet but that is the way to bet him)

 

[venicia777]

can he be hit moer then once by the same attack ... yeah right ace hit him twice with fire so all you need to do is stay away from him (eiser said then done i bet but that is the way to bet him)

thats right on the money. THe only thing is-- i dont know the range of his gravity pulling/sucking jutsu that he used to suck Ace in. He said it was inescapable-- but i think it works only at certain ranges.

I wonder how gear 3 will affect BB's body?


Ace lives to come back again

 

[Anti-panda]

thats right on the money. THe only thing is-- i dont know the range of his gravity pulling/sucking jutsu that he used to suck Ace in. He said it was inescapable-- but i think it works only at certain ranges.

I wonder how gear 3 will affect BB's body?


Ace lives to come back again

First of did you think you were on a Naruto board ... Jutsu?? shame shame

Secondly I doubt gear 3 would be verry effective since BB had absolutly no trouble sucking up an entire town. A giant wouldn't be safe from that. Believe it or not based on what i've seen thus far about BB ability the best and only combination i've come up with thus far to attack him would be for someone like Luffy Gear 2nd to pepper him with quick attacks and avoid him whilest Ussop/king hits him with a barrage of attacks from long range out of his attack scope. But there's no way BB sniper would allow that to go unhindered.
Basically I'm saying at luffy's present condition he doesn't possess the skills neccessary to win.

 

[venicia777]

First of did you think you were on a Naruto board ... Jutsu?? shame shame

hey-- dont you see the smoke icon-- the mistake was on its way already But have some mercy-- i post in the One Piece section more than anywhere else

Secondly I doubt gear 3 would be verry effective since BB had absolutly no trouble sucking up an entire town. A giant wouldn't be safe from that. Believe it or not based on what i've seen thus far about BB ability the best and only combination i've come up with thus far to attack him would be for someone like Luffy Gear 2nd to pepper him with quick attacks and avoid him whilest Ussop/king hits him with a barrage of attacks from long range out of his attack scope. But there's no way BB sniper would allow that to go unhindered.
Basically I'm saying at luffy's present condition he doesn't possess the skills neccessary to win.

neither do i think Luffy is ready. This isnt the first time i have read the gear 2 explanation either since i have made that reasoning myself. But Maybe you didnt try to understand the question. A town of inanimate objects was sucked it without fighting back. Although BB's ability endows him with incredible power-- he takes damage too. Everybody knows this.

As such my question was to address the effect/damage that a gear 3 punch will have on him. THIS is not about luffy winning or losing. Infact with Luffy's inability to control his normal and gear 3 states at his own free will - I really dont think it is advisable to use it.