Discussion Estimating Characters PL

[OtakuFreak]

Given the new information we got and some recent chapters... here's my new PL estimation for relevant characters. (I'll be using a MOBA tierlist format)

Note: Given Mael's blessing, he will be placed in all tiers that he should fit into during the day or night (same for Escanor)

Note: This list is in regards to PL only, combat ability or specific abilities (e.g full counter) aren't factored here.

Tier SS

Supreme Deity & Demon King
Mael with ''The One''

Tier S+

5C-Meliodas
4C-Mael
Escanor with ''The One''
Assault Meliodas
Mael
Indura Monspeet + Derriere
Fairy King Harlequin.

Tier S

Ludoshel
Goddess Elizabeth
Meliodas with SDM
Zeldris with SDM + God
114K Escanor/Mael

Tier S-

Sariel
Tarmiel
Chandler (true form)
Cusack (true form)
Mael
Escanor
Giant King Drole
2C-Mael

Tier A+

Meliodas + Zeldris + Cusack + Chandler base.
Estarossa
Monspeet
Derriere
Gloxinia
Drole (base)
Merlin
Diane
Escanor

Tier A

Galan
Melascula
Fraudrin
Gowther
Berlion
Arthur
Grayroad
Escanor

Tier A-

Six Black Knights (besides leader)
Divine Lance Corporals
Elaine
Dahlia
Escanor

Tier B

Divine Soldiers (Goddess Fodder)
Albion + Fodder Demons.
Vampire King - Izraf.
Gelda
Grandmaster Knight
Fairy & Giant Fodder.
Escanor

Tier C

Crystal to Diamond Holy Knight
Escanor

Tier D

Apprentice Holy Knights
Average Human.
Hawk & Oslo
Escanor at 12:00 AM


Thoughts?

 

[Estarossa173]

Given the new information we got and some recent chapters... here's my new PL estimation for relevant characters. (I'll be using a MOBA tierlist format)

Note: Given Mael's blessing, he will be placed in all tiers that he should fit into during the day or night (same for Escanor)

Note: This list is in regards to PL only, combat ability or specific abilities (e.g full counter) aren't factored here.

Tier SS

Supreme Deity & Demon King
Mael with ''The One''

Tier S+

5C-Meliodas
4C-Mael
Escanor with ''The One''
Assault Meliodas
Mael
Indura Monspeet + Derriere
Fairy King Harlequin.

Tier S

Ludoshel
Goddess Elizabeth
Meliodas with SDM
Zeldris with SDM + God
114K Escanor/Mael

Tier S-

Sariel
Tarmiel
Chandler (true form)
Cusack (true form)
Mael
Escanor
Giant King Drole
2C-Mael

Tier A+

Meliodas + Zeldris + Cusack + Chandler base.
Estarossa
Monspeet
Derriere
Gloxinia
Drole (base)
Merlin
Diane
Escanor

Tier A

Galan
Melascula
Fraudrin
Gowther
Berlion
Arthur
Grayroad
Escanor

Tier A-

Six Black Knights (besides leader)
Divine Lance Corporals
Elaine
Dahlia
Escanor

Tier B

Divine Soldiers (Goddess Fodder)
Albion + Fodder Demons.
Vampire King - Izraf.
Gelda
Grandmaster Knight
Fairy & Giant Fodder.
Escanor

Tier C

Crystal to Diamond Holy Knight
Escanor

Tier D

Apprentice Holy Knights
Average Human.
Hawk & Oslo
Escanor at 12:00 AM


Thoughts?

So, you mean to say that “The one” Mael is stronger than 5C Meliodas? Am I interpreting that correctly? What are you basing that off of? Other than that, it looks good. I would tie Ludociel, Goddess Elizabeth, and SDM Meliodas but that’s just my opinion.

 

[Bøjan]

Given the new information we got and some recent chapters... here's my new PL estimation for relevant characters. (I'll be using a MOBA tierlist format)

Note: Given Mael's blessing, he will be placed in all tiers that he should fit into during the day or night (same for Escanor)

Note: This list is in regards to PL only, combat ability or specific abilities (e.g full counter) aren't factored here.

Tier SS

Supreme Deity & Demon King
Mael with ''The One''

Tier S+

5C-Meliodas
4C-Mael
Escanor with ''The One''
Assault Meliodas
Mael
Indura Monspeet + Derriere
Fairy King Harlequin.

Tier S

Ludoshel
Goddess Elizabeth
Meliodas with SDM
Zeldris with SDM + God
114K Escanor/Mael

Tier S-

Sariel
Tarmiel
Chandler (true form)
Cusack (true form)
Mael
Escanor
Giant King Drole
2C-Mael

Tier A+

Meliodas + Zeldris + Cusack + Chandler base.
Estarossa
Monspeet
Derriere
Gloxinia
Drole (base)
Merlin
Diane
Escanor

Tier A

Galan
Melascula
Fraudrin
Gowther
Berlion
Arthur
Grayroad
Escanor

Tier A-

Six Black Knights (besides leader)
Divine Lance Corporals
Elaine
Dahlia
Escanor

Tier B

Divine Soldiers (Goddess Fodder)
Albion + Fodder Demons.
Vampire King - Izraf.
Gelda
Grandmaster Knight
Fairy & Giant Fodder.
Escanor

Tier C

Crystal to Diamond Holy Knight
Escanor

Tier D

Apprentice Holy Knights
Average Human.
Hawk & Oslo
Escanor at 12:00 AM


Thoughts?

List is not bad. Although we have no idea if even "The One" Mael exists, or that's only for Escanor. Also i'm pretty sure 114K Escanor is a bit stronger than Demon Mark Meliodas, Ludociel, Elizabeth and Zeldris, and i'm talking about PL only. But we have no PL's for them so it's only speculation.

 

[OtakuFreak]

So, you mean to say that “The one” Mael is stronger than 5C Meliodas? Am I interpreting that correctly? What are you basing that off of? Other than that, it looks good. I would tie Ludociel, Goddess Elizabeth, and SDM Meliodas but that’s just my opinion.

Due to the fact that Escanor in "The One" one shot a 142k demon with just a swipe.

Mael has a base PL, access to ark etc - until I see Meliodas I'll put him in this mode above 5C-Meliodas.

List is not bad. Although we have no idea if even "The One" Mael exists, or that's only for Escanor. Also i'm pretty sure 114K Escanor is a bit stronger than Demon Mark Meliodas, Ludociel, Elizabeth and Zeldris, and i'm talking about PL only. But we have no PL's for them so it's only speculation.

There isn't a hierarchy in each tier I just placed people who are on the same spectrum of power with each other. Hence, Ludoshel, Zeldris, Elizabeth and Meliodas being together.

I'm pretty sure Mael has "The One" - which is pretty stupid OP

 

[Aldan]

Given the new information we got and some recent chapters... here's my new PL estimation for relevant characters. (I'll be using a MOBA tierlist format)

Note: Given Mael's blessing, he will be placed in all tiers that he should fit into during the day or night (same for Escanor)

Note: This list is in regards to PL only, combat ability or specific abilities (e.g full counter) aren't factored here.

Tier SS

Supreme Deity & Demon King
Mael with ''The One''

Tier S+

5C-Meliodas
4C-Mael
Escanor with ''The One''
Assault Meliodas
Mael
Indura Monspeet + Derriere
Fairy King Harlequin.

Tier S

Ludoshel
Goddess Elizabeth
Meliodas with SDM
Zeldris with SDM + God
114K Escanor/Mael

Tier S-

Sariel
Tarmiel
Chandler (true form)
Cusack (true form)
Mael
Escanor
Giant King Drole
2C-Mael

Tier A+

Meliodas + Zeldris + Cusack + Chandler base.
Estarossa
Monspeet
Derriere
Gloxinia
Drole (base)
Merlin
Diane
Escanor

Tier A

Galan
Melascula
Fraudrin
Gowther
Berlion
Arthur
Grayroad
Escanor

Tier A-

Six Black Knights (besides leader)
Divine Lance Corporals
Elaine
Dahlia
Escanor

Tier B

Divine Soldiers (Goddess Fodder)
Albion + Fodder Demons.
Vampire King - Izraf.
Gelda
Grandmaster Knight
Fairy & Giant Fodder.
Escanor

Tier C

Crystal to Diamond Holy Knight
Escanor

Tier D

Apprentice Holy Knights
Average Human.
Hawk & Oslo
Escanor at 12:00 AM


Thoughts?

Hm why is drole in the same category as true form demons??? Like....he was just turned into sashimi by one.

 

[Shadowlord123]

Given the new information we got and some recent chapters... here's my new PL estimation for relevant characters. (I'll be using a MOBA tierlist format)

Note: Given Mael's blessing, he will be placed in all tiers that he should fit into during the day or night (same for Escanor)

Note: This list is in regards to PL only, combat ability or specific abilities (e.g full counter) aren't factored here.

Tier SS

Supreme Deity & Demon King
Mael with ''The One''

Tier S+

5C-Meliodas
4C-Mael
Escanor with ''The One''
Assault Meliodas
Mael
Indura Monspeet + Derriere
Fairy King Harlequin.

Tier S

Ludoshel
Goddess Elizabeth
Meliodas with SDM
Zeldris with SDM + God
114K Escanor/Mael

Tier S-

Sariel
Tarmiel
Chandler (true form)
Cusack (true form)
Mael
Escanor
Giant King Drole
2C-Mael

Tier A+

Meliodas + Zeldris + Cusack + Chandler base.
Estarossa
Monspeet
Derriere
Gloxinia
Drole (base)
Merlin
Diane
Escanor

Tier A

Galan
Melascula
Fraudrin
Gowther
Berlion
Arthur
Grayroad
Escanor

Tier A-

Six Black Knights (besides leader)
Divine Lance Corporals
Elaine
Dahlia
Escanor

Tier B

Divine Soldiers (Goddess Fodder)
Albion + Fodder Demons.
Vampire King - Izraf.
Gelda
Grandmaster Knight
Fairy & Giant Fodder.
Escanor

Tier C

Crystal to Diamond Holy Knight
Escanor

Tier D

Apprentice Holy Knights
Average Human.
Hawk & Oslo
Escanor at 12:00 AM


Thoughts?

The list was decent enough. Only I disagree about Mael in The One being on the same league as the Gods and stronger than 5C Mel. IMO, 5C Mel should still be above him. 142K or more+ 25% of the DK's power seems to be too much for Mael in The One to handle.

Hm why is drole in the same category as true form demons??? Like....he was just turned into sashimi by one.

I think the reason he put Drole in that tier is because the hypothetical boost he would gain by dancing. Seeing how much the dance boosts Diane's power (literally few seconds is enough to rise her 8K PL to 15K), it's not much of a stretch that Drole could reach those levels of power by dancing, since he has already 54K as his base. Of course, it's pure speculation.

 

[Noelle Silva]

Given the new information we got and some recent chapters... here's my new PL estimation for relevant characters. (I'll be using a MOBA tierlist format)

Note: Given Mael's blessing, he will be placed in all tiers that he should fit into during the day or night (same for Escanor)

Note: This list is in regards to PL only, combat ability or specific abilities (e.g full counter) aren't factored here.

Tier SS

Supreme Deity & Demon King
Mael with ''The One''

Tier S+

5C-Meliodas
4C-Mael
Escanor with ''The One''
Assault Meliodas
Mael
Indura Monspeet + Derriere
Fairy King Harlequin.

Tier S

Ludoshel
Goddess Elizabeth
Meliodas with SDM
Zeldris with SDM + God
114K Escanor/Mael

Tier S-

Sariel
Tarmiel
Chandler (true form)
Cusack (true form)
Mael
Escanor
Giant King Drole
2C-Mael

Tier A+

Meliodas + Zeldris + Cusack + Chandler base.
Estarossa
Monspeet
Derriere
Gloxinia
Drole (base)
Merlin
Diane
Escanor

Tier A

Galan
Melascula
Fraudrin
Gowther
Berlion
Arthur
Grayroad
Escanor

Tier A-

Six Black Knights (besides leader)
Divine Lance Corporals
Elaine
Dahlia
Escanor

Tier B

Divine Soldiers (Goddess Fodder)
Albion + Fodder Demons.
Vampire King - Izraf.
Gelda
Grandmaster Knight
Fairy & Giant Fodder.
Escanor

Tier C

Crystal to Diamond Holy Knight
Escanor

Tier D

Apprentice Holy Knights
Average Human.
Hawk & Oslo
Escanor at 12:00 AM


Thoughts?

Holy, holy, holy! O supreme deity! I summon @OtakuFreak !
Here is my version :
First, honorable mentions : Dahlia, ST, GC's trump card ( final form like ability), Diane's parents, past gerheade ( with her full wings), six knight if darkness.
Lets get to it :
Tier SS ( 500k - 1M )

Supreme Deity & Demon King

Tier S ( 150k-300k )
+S ( 300k )
5C-Meliodas
S ( +200k )
Fairy King Harlequin
4C-Mael
-S ( +150k )
Escanor with ''The One''
Assault Meliodas
Mael
Indura Monspeet + Derriere.

Tier A ( 70k-100k )
+A ( +100k )
Ludoshel
Goddess Elizabeth
Meliodas with SDM
Zeldris with SDM + God
114K Escanor/Mael
Chandler (true form)
Cusack (true form)
A (+80k-90k )
Sariel
Tarmiel
Mael
Escanor
2C-Mael
-A ( +70k )
Mael
Escanor

Tier B ( 30k - 60k )
+B ( +60k )
Meliodas + Zeldris + Cusack + Chandler base.
Estarossa
B ( +40k-50k )
Giant King Drole
Monspeet
Derriere
Gloxinia
Merlin
Diane
Escanor
Galan
Arthur
Grayroad
-B ( +30k )
Melascula
Fraudrin
Gowther
Escanor

Tier C ( 5k- 20k )
+C ( +20k )
Berlion
Divine Lance Corporals
Elaine
Escanor
Ban hunter fest +26k
C ( +10k )
King ( ST release )
Nerobasta
Jelamet
Diane human form + D dance
-C ( +5k )
Albions
Matrona

Tier D ( 1k-4k )
+D (4k)
Vampire King - Izraf.
Gelda
Merlin as holy knight
King as holy knight
DM sealed meliodas
D ( 2k - 3k )
Other sins as holy knights
Wingless elaine
Current gerheade
Helbram
Divine Soldiers (Goddess Fodder)
Fodder Demons.
Great holy Knights
Fairy & Giant Fodder.
Escanor

Tier E ( 100- 900 )

Apprentice Holy Knights
Average Human.
Hawk & Oslo
Tier F (1-99)
Escanor at 12:00 AM

 

[lindananahayashida]

Liz = 150k
Rue= 150k
Zel=150k
Ban=150k
King=250k
Esca=350k
Meli=450k
DK=850k
SD=750k

 

[OtakuFreak]

Liz = 150k
Rue= 150k
Zel=150k

Goddess Elizabeth, Ludoshel and Zeldris are more powerful than Assault Mode Meliodas?

Even I heavily doubt that given these three haven't been established at that power level and it wouldn't make much sense either.

At MAX, you could put these three into the 100-120,000 PL area - but they aren't as powerful as AM that's confirmed.

DK=850k
SD=750k

Why is SD weaker? She should be equal to her rival.

Meli=450k

5C-Meliodas?

Mhmm, believable.

Ban=150k
King=250k
Esca=350k

Ban is 150,000? he's fodder don't make me laugh

Escanor 350k? LOL

King 250k? probs true cuz ''mUh DoG dIeD''

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 12, 2018, Original Post Date: Oct 12, 2018 ---

I think the reason he put Drole in that tier is because the hypothetical boost he would gain by dancing. Seeing how much the dance boosts Diane's power (literally few seconds is enough to rise her 8K PL to 15K), it's not much of a stretch that Drole could reach those levels of power by dancing, since he has already 54K as his base. Of course, it's pure speculation.

This.

Diane can dance from her base (8k) to 48,000 PL. Given that Drole can do this (and he should be able to) - he could go from 54,000 to 94,000 which is AA tier.

Since Drole could probably dance better than Diane, he could probably break 100,000 potentially?

 

[lindananahayashida]

Goddess Elizabeth, Ludoshel and Zeldris are more powerful than Assault Mode Meliodas?

Even I heavily doubt that given these three haven't been established at that power level and it wouldn't make much sense either.

At MAX, you could put these three into the 100-120,000 PL area - but they aren't as powerful as AM that's confirmed.



Why is SD weaker? She should be equal to her rival.



5C-Meliodas?

Mhmm, believable.



Ban is 150,000? he's fodder don't make me laugh

Escanor 350k? LOL

King 250k? probs true cuz ''mUh DoG dIeD''

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 12, 2018, Original Post Date: Oct 12, 2018 ---

This.

Diane can dance from her base (8k) to 48,000 PL. Given that Drole can do this (and he should be able to) - he could go from 54,000 to 94,000 which is AA tier.

Since Drole could probably dance better than Diane, he could probably break 100,000 potentially?

Well,
142k mel = Still growing (160k?)

Plus (EoS power creeps started)
Liz =150k





DK > SD
Since,
NS = Demon fan
+
1AA = 2C (Base value)
So,
4AA = 8C

Perhaps,
SD = 80% DK






Yup 5C





Idk! Ban = DK kneels!
Besides(He is my fav! lemme dream
)





Escanor ( T O ) = 350k (Possible ya know!)





I think

Drole = Full dance (Always, somehow!)

 

[Shadowlord123]

Since Nakaba has decided to make everyone and their mother 150K+, I'm curious to see people's opinion now about those characters' PL.

- 2nd Demon Mark Mel
- AM Mel
- Base Mael (without Sun).
- Mael with Sun
- Indura Derieri and Monspeet
- Full Power Zeldris
- Escanor (The One)
- 5C Mel
- King (Fully Grown Wings)
- Goddess Elizabeth.
- DK/SD
- Mel with Innate Magic
-10C Mel

My opinion:

- 2nd Mark Mel should be around 200.000 since he could equally match Mael with Sun at some point of the day and also made Ludoshel think twice before launching any attack.
- AM Mel should be easily 250.000+ given how he's much stronger than before and casually made quick work of Zeldris even with the DK's magic (which allows him to no-sell a 201K Ludo's attacks).
- Base Mael without Sun should be around 100.000-120.000 in my opinion and with Sun he should be around 200.000 by morning given how he could casually resist Mel's darkness in 2nd Demon Mark. Near noon should be easily 250.000+ given that Ludo said that even he couldn't hope to match his brother's power in these hours.
- The Star duo should be no less than 200.000 with Indura seeing how they tanked attacks from Ludoshel without a scratch and overpowered him (even though he stated that he wasn't going all out).
- Full Power Zeldris should be around 200.000 too since him matching Ludo is pretty much a fact by now.
- I can see The One sitting at 300.000-350.000 by pure hype alone.
- 5C Mel is for sure not gonna be less than The One. I see him sitting at around 400.000+ or pretty near since he by himself is already considerably stronger than 200.000.
- King with Fully Grown Wings is confusing to me. If Mael wasn't weaked by the time he fought with him he should be easily way more than 200.000. If he was indeed weakened (which I doubt) he could be around 150.000+.
- Given how Eli was able to make the Induras concerned about her and pushing them back significantly she should be no less than 200.000. Mael's statement makes this even more clear in my opinion.
- The Gods should be sitting at 500.000 with half of their power and at 1 Million with their full power. Mel with his Innate Magic should sit on that level too considering that he destroyed one of the DK's arms, and he stated that he can't be in the Human Realm with this power awakened.
- 10C Mel could very well be 600.000-700.000 if not more going by this route.

I know. These numbers are fucking ridiculous but going by Nakaba's power scaling in the last chapter these numbers could very well be possible, lmao.

 

[OtakuFreak]

- 2nd Demon Mark Mel

Prime Meliodas without AM - probably 200,000 like Ludoshel and Elizabeth.

I still believe in Mael's statement.

- AM Mel

250,000 I believe, at his prime and full regression.

- Base Mael (without Sun).

200,000 - he said he was comparable to Ludoshel, Elizabeth and Meliodas without Assault Mode.

- Mael with Sun

Probably a maximum of 350,000-400,000 from what we've seen from Escanor.

Stupid I know, but possible.

- Indura Derieri and Monspeet

Phase 1 - 175,000.

Elizabeth at 200,000 was easily able to overpower them even in a 1v2 context until they went to Phase 2.

Phase 2 - 225,000.

- Full Power Zeldris

I don't know to be honest.

- Escanor (The One)

200,000 - he swatted Meliodas like a fucking fly back when he wasn't fully regressed.

- 5C Mel

300,000?

- King (Fully Grown Wings)

200,000 I believe.

- Goddess Elizabeth.

200,000

Maybe higher if light wings do act as a PL boost.

250,000 max but im doubtful.

- DK/SD

600-700,000 at 50%.

1 million + for full power.

- Mel with Innate Magic

Same PL, it's just a OP ability.

Doesn't change his PL

-10C Mel

600-700,000

 

[Shadowlord123]

Prime Meliodas without AM - probably 200,000 like Ludoshel and Elizabeth.

I still believe in Mael's statement.



250,000 I believe, at his prime and full regression.



200,000 - he said he was comparable to Ludoshel, Elizabeth and Meliodas without Assault Mode.



Probably a maximum of 350,000-400,000 from what we've seen from Escanor.

Stupid I know, but possible.



Phase 1 - 175,000.

Elizabeth at 200,000 was easily able to overpower them even in a 1v2 context until they went to Phase 2.

Phase 2 - 225,000.



I don't know to be honest.



200,000 - he swatted Meliodas like a fucking fly back when he wasn't fully regressed.



300,000?



200,000 I believe.



200,000

Maybe higher if light wings do act as a PL boost.

250,000 max but im doubtful.



600-700,000 at 50%.

1 million + for full power.



Same PL, it's just a OP ability.

Doesn't change his PL



600-700,000

I know Mael with Sun is strong, but I seriously doubt he's considerably stronger than 5C Mel like you said. Mel was already able to equal him at some point of the day with his 2nd Mark outside of AM. While I think that Mael near noon is probably a little bit stronger than AM, I don't think the difference is that big. Adding 25% of the DK's power should make him stronger, in my opinion. Mael being 200.000 without Sun doesn't make much sense considering that his base PL and 20% of the DK's power is only a tad bit above 200.000.

Also, I'm starting to believe that The One state has the same power no matter your base PL. I know, I don't have any evidence to support that claim. It's just that I find Mael being like 400.000 at noon ridiculous, but that's just me.

 

[sobreno]

Meliodas with his True power cannot stay into the Mortal world.

His power once activating his godly is in the realm of the Gods or even above them since he is the only person capable of killing them.

He is therefore easily the strongest of the show as for now.

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 23, 2018, Original Post Date: Oct 23, 2018 ---

Prime Meliodas without AM - probably 200,000 like Ludoshel and Elizabeth.

I still believe in Mael's statement.



250,000 I believe, at his prime and full regression.



200,000 - he said he was comparable to Ludoshel, Elizabeth and Meliodas without Assault Mode.



Probably a maximum of 350,000-400,000 from what we've seen from Escanor.

Stupid I know, but possible.



Phase 1 - 175,000.

Elizabeth at 200,000 was easily able to overpower them even in a 1v2 context until they went to Phase 2.

Phase 2 - 225,000.



I don't know to be honest.



200,000 - he swatted Meliodas like a fucking fly back when he wasn't fully regressed.



300,000?



200,000 I believe.



200,000

Maybe higher if light wings do act as a PL boost.

250,000 max but im doubtful.



600-700,000 at 50%.

1 million + for full power.



Same PL, it's just a OP ability.

Doesn't change his PL



600-700,000

Nope, she is far from being close to 200K, as showed by her pitiful actions in the Mael fiasco. That statement was his biased opinion.

He, himself, run away from 2nd Mark Mel in his own territory and Ludo didn't want to engage a fight against him alone.

She is beyond powerless in from of a 100K or even 200K as showed by her attitude: " everyone run for your life ". lol

Not to mention that she is graceless.

Conclusion, until the day that Nakaba finally reveal her PL, she is not close to the top fighter of her Clan when all she did is healing whereas they can heal, fight and they have a grace on top of their Goddesses power + their physical capabilities far outclass her that it is funny.

 

[OtakuFreak]

I know Mael with Sun is strong, but I seriously doubt he's considerably stronger than 5C Mel like you said. Mel was already able to equal him at some point of the day with his 2nd Mark outside of AM. While I think that Mael near noon is probably a little bit stronger than AM, I don't think the difference is that big. Adding 25% of the DK's power should make him stronger, in my opinion. Mael being 200.000 without Sun doesn't make much sense considering that his base PL and 20% of the DK's power is only a tad bit above 200.000.

Also, I'm starting to believe that The One state has the same power no matter your base PL. I know, I don't have any evidence to support that claim. It's just that I find Mael being like 400.000 at noon ridiculous, but that's just me.

I know it's hard to believe, but considering how easily Escanor trashed Meliodas at 142,000 when he used sun's peak power makes me think Mael with the same power could temporarily rival Meliodas, even when he has the 5 commandments beside him.

You have to remember that Mael's base PL rivals Ludoshel who's the strongest warrior in the clan and Elizabeth's who is the Supreme Deity's only daughter. Even without sun, he's at the top of the clan and with it I definitely think it's possible for him to contest in PL to 5C-Meliodas for 60 seconds, for all we know this blessing could contain 25% of the Supreme Deity's power.

Of course, this is assuming that the sun we see on Escanor factors the same on Mael.

 

[sobreno]

I know it's hard to believe, but considering how easily Escanor trashed Meliodas at 142,000 when he used sun's peak power makes me think Mael with the same power could temporarily rival Meliodas, even when he has the 5 commandments beside him.

You have to remember that Mael's base PL rivals Ludoshel who's the strongest warrior in the clan and Elizabeth's who is the Supreme Deity's only daughter. Even without sun, he's at the top of the clan and with it I definitely think it's possible for him to contest in PL to 5C-Meliodas for 60 seconds, for all we know this blessing could contain 25% of the Supreme Deity's power.

Of course, this is assuming that the sun we see on Escanor factors the same on Mael.

You are delusional if you think that the One ( a single grace ) can compete with 5C AM fully awakened Mel lmao. Way to wank the SD power over the DK power.

Defeating casually an no awakened AM Mel who is just 142K, even current King or Ludo could do it. Even Zeldoris and the masters lmao.

2nd Mark Mel made him retreat in his own territory with Sunshine, he is trash without his grace compared to 2nd Mark Mel.

They were equals, both balanced their Clans from each other although Mel was playing ( as usual, it is in his genes ) around when he was in reality above the Gods but he was " afraid " lol.

 

[Kay3795]

You have to remember that Mael's base PL rivals Ludoshel who's the strongest warrior in the clan and Elizabeth's...

Meliodas sent Sunshine imbued Mael packing with his tails behind his legs in his own territory (a humiliation), & you actually think it's still alright to place him as Meliodas' equal? Moreover you even went a step further & equated base Mael to Demon Meliodas?

Don't misunderstand, Ludo himself made it clear that Mael's power only becomes too much for him as he approaches noon (or noon); how in the world did you think base Mael is suddenly equated to Flash Ludo?

 

[sobreno]

Meliodas sent Sunshine imbued Mael packing with his tails behind his legs in his own territory (a humiliation), & you actually think it's still alright to place him as Meliodas' equal? Moreover you even went a step further & equated base Mael to Demon Meliodas?

Don't misunderstand, Ludo himself made it clear that Mael's power only becomes too much for him as he approaches noon (or noon); how in the world did you think base Mael is suddenly equated to Flash Ludo?

Not Ludo only, Sariel too, he called Mael, the strongest of the 4 Archangels.

Even Gowther. And that is thanks to his Sunshine.

Despite that, He run away from 2nd Mark TC Mel, the Angel of Death run away from Mel in his own territory of all territories lmao.

Imagine if Mel run away from Mael in the Underworld, the humiliation will be real.

Give up, he loves to undermines Mel when Meliodas has feats and showing, not mere biased statement, to prove his supremacy.

Actions and feats speak louder than statements in any manga.
Words: Mel ( suppressed from his true power ) and Mael are equals.

Actions: Mael run away from 2nd Mark TC Mel from his own place.

 

[Ger]

Let me educate anyone here downplays meliodas. in chapter 246 meliodas easily bypassed DKs magic due to his nature being the prodigy and all mighty demon as he is. The One mode feat can be done by the likes of ludo at 201k. he can easily do the samething to AM mel in chapter 232. Do people forget the fact that escanor needed to use "Divine sword" to actually hurt meliodas and damage him at 50%?. do people really forgot how the difference between thousands of power level gives you rnough stomping fest against the other?? the example being non fullpowered sar made a toy out of estarossa who was at 61k. The One is very overrated the fact that people misses the fact that meliodas with his magic is god tier and escanor or mael isnt does not indicate anything. Why do people focuse and overhype the feat that escanor showed using his technique slice meliodas? also the fact that his sword only did half damage shows it isn't strong enough lol.

 

[HereNThere]

Looking at the first few pages, we were totally off base. It's amazing how far off we were for a lot of these characters.