Discussion Estimating Characters PL

[sobreno]

I disagree.

I know, you must downplay Mel as far as possible lol even tho he keeps getting far more powerful.

Nice logic.

 

[Seven777]

I know, you must downplay Mel as far as possible lol even tho he keeps getting far more powerful.

Nice logic.

Thanks

 

[sobreno]

Thanks

This is awkward now lol.

 

[Aetherventus258]

Totally nonsense, Awakened AM Mel is far beyond 150K, he trashed the DK power without even trying.

King is iffy and nope of Elizabeth lmao.

I like the wank of Elizabeth but the downplay of Meliodas himself, the dude with the strongest OG magic ever.

Add, Emo Mel's Ridiculous physical strength into the equation will makes things far worse.

Oh boy... do you really think that a few emotions could do something against the DK is nothing more than a nakaba straw to exaggerate more his favorite?

 

[sobreno]

Oh boy... do you really think that a few emotions could do something against the DK is nothing more than a nakaba straw to exaggerate more his favorite?

You realize that those emotions became far stronger and they are the embodiment of Meliodas's feelings?

Nowhere it is stated that those emotions can't become stronger, you have to admit that lol.

 

[Crimson Ice]

Totally nonsense, Awakened AM Mel is far beyond 150K, he trashed the DK power without even trying.

King is iffy and nope of Elizabeth lmao.

I like the wank of Elizabeth but the downplay of Meliodas himself, the dude with the strongest OG magic ever.

Add, Emo Mel's Ridiculous physical strength into the equation will makes things far worse.

Far beyond? Let’s not get carried away, he should be weaker than the masters and Cusack is only 18K above 150K.

 

[sobreno]

Far beyond? Let’s not get carried away, he should be weaker than the masters and Cusack is only 18K above 150K.

Lol he isn't, like I said, when he awakened, he gained so much power that he overpowered the DK power hax lol.

Cusack himself literally couldn't do shit and he could transform to save Zeldoris but he didn't lol, proving that he knew that it would be useless anyway.

He isn't weaker than them at the specific moment.

 

[Crimson Ice]

Lol he isn't, like I said, when he awakened, he gained so much power that he overpowered the DK power hax lol.

Cusack himself literally couldn't do shit and he could transform to save Zeldoris but he didn't lol, proving that he knew that it would be useless anyway.

Again, you can’t prove that the Demon King deactivated The Ruler when Meliodas took his arm.

He didn’t do shit because Meliodas’s objective wasn’t to kill, not to mention if he jumped and he started beating Meliodas Chandler would have stepped in. The latest chapter confirms Cusack and Chandler>Meliodas.

 

[Aetherventus258]

You realize that those emotions became far stronger and they are the embodiment of Meliodas's feelings?

Nowhere it is stated that those emotions can't become stronger, you have to admit that lol.

They don't need to become stronger. they are emotions, they shouldn't have a magical power, they shouldn't have PL, they shouldn't even be able to have a corporeal form, the whole arch of purgatory only served to exaggerate meliodas more, it's more, nakaba couldn't even give a good excuse to give him another magical power, and "You're afraid" is shit, if he knew he had such a power, why not use it? If I knew I had such power, why not use it to save Elizabeth from being cursed so I could stand up to DK and SD? I mean, if some emotions could do that to the DK, a meliodas with more than 100k with a real body would only have to blink and the whole problem would be solved a long time ago.

 

[sobreno]

Again, you can’t prove that the Demon King deactivated The Ruler when Meliodas took his arm.

He didn’t do shit because Meliodas’s objective wasn’t to kill, not to mention if he jumped and he started beating Meliodas Chandler would have stepped in. The latest chapter confirms Cusack and Chandler>Meliodas.

You are talking about that time? Lol, the DK literally stated that with his OG magic, he could fight him when he had the Ruler, nice denial.

He literally was surprised, that proves that he bypassed the Ruler, he can easily reactivate it in seconds and he had all the time to do that.
The burden of proof is on you.

Are you in denial? Zeldoris literally stated that he overpowered the DK power and noted the impossibility of the feat.

That chapter confirmed nothing since we already knew that Meliodas is even above the DK witb his OG power and can't remain into the mortal world and even without it, can overcomes the DK power lol.

Feat that Merlin never saw.

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They don't need to become stronger. they are emotions, they shouldn't have a magical power, they shouldn't have PL, they shouldn't even be able to have a corporeal form, the whole arch of purgatory only served to exaggerate meliodas more, it's more, nakaba couldn't even give a good excuse to give him another magical power, and "You're afraid" is shit, if he knew he had such a power, why not use it? If I knew I had such power, why not use it to save Elizabeth from being cursed so I could stand up to DK and SD? I mean, if some emotions could do that to the DK, a meliodas with more than 100k with a real body would only have to blink and the whole problem would be solved a long time ago.

Well, it happened so we have to deal with it.

Those emotions got a physical body + improved physical strength over 60 years + an Original magic power so powerful that it can destroy the DK's body.

Obviously, he is afraid of it because it has terrible repercussions on his surrounding hence linked to Destruction, remember that he is the Destroyer.

Meliodas need a lot to be afraid because even dead doesn't afraid him, so his OG power is worse than that and we will see it later on

For now, it is just too powerful for the mortal world.

 

[Aetherventus258]

Well, it happened so we have to deal with it.

Those emotions got a physical body + improved physical strength over 60 years + an Original magic power so powerful that it can destroy the DK's body.

Obviously, he is afraid of it because it has terrible repercussions on his surrounding hence liked to Destruction, remember that he is the Destroyer.

Meliodas need a lot to be afraid because even dead doesn't afraid him, so his OG power is worse than that and we will see it later on

For now, it is just too powerful for the mortal world.

It's not powerful, the body of meliodas is, their emotions wouldn't even have to have a physical form like I said, are you trying to deny the fact that their power taken out of nothing is just shit? because come on, many complained in the arthur vs demon clan fight, that all their power was garbage etc. and maybe the fact that some emotions can do something against a god is better? Another thing, how is it that a simple magical power is able to make a person unable to be in the mortal world? because as far as we know the only way to do that is to have a power equivalent to that of a god, and don't come out with meliodas with his magical power is at the level of DK, because it wasn't even his real body, only a handful of emotions.

 

[sobreno]

It's not powerful, the body of meliodas is, their emotions wouldn't even have to have a physical form like I said, are you trying to deny the fact that their power taken out of nothing is just shit? because come on, many complained in the arthur vs demon clan fight, that all their power was garbage etc. and maybe the fact that some emotions can do something against a god is better? Another thing, how is it that a simple magical power is able to make a person unable to be in the mortal world? because as far as we know the only way to do that is to have a power equivalent to that of a god, and don't come out with meliodas with his magical power is at the level of DK, because it wasn't even his real body, only a handful of emotions.

Well, the thing is that it isn't a " simple " magic power lol.

It is a magic power that scared Meliodas more than anything, and judging from that alone, you should put the dot.
Meliodas isn't a nobody, he is the MC and even ignoring that, he is the most mysterious character of the show by far, along with being the strongest.

You are right about his emotions tho, logically speaking, it shouldn't be that powerful physically but magically, it can.

But again, it happened so we just have to deal with it.

 

[T25]

They don't need to become stronger. they are emotions, they shouldn't have a magical power, they shouldn't have PL, they shouldn't even be able to have a corporeal form, the whole arch of purgatory only served to exaggerate meliodas more, it's more, nakaba couldn't even give a good excuse to give him another magical power, and "You're afraid" is shit, if he knew he had such a power, why not use it? If I knew I had such power, why not use it to save Elizabeth from being cursed so I could stand up to DK and SD? I mean, if some emotions could do that to the DK, a meliodas with more than 100k with a real body would only have to blink and the whole problem would be solved a long time ago.

His emotions were likened to “a soul.” Magic ability is tied to the soul. This “he shouldn’t have a magic ability” does not make sense given the narrative. It was the lack of a “physical body” that reduces “physical power” not a magic/spiritual power as he is, well, a spirit no?

Mel had already defined two types of beings within the realm they were in: the non corporeal and the corporeal. How does this play into your “they shouldn’t even be able to have corporeal form”? It seems that many do not take into account that purgatory isn’t Brittania. It is another realm entirely. With a distinct but related reality of existence.

Why didn’t mel do this or do that, yet this is an ongoing story. You have not been given these details yet, but still feel that you have no need of patience before rendering preconceived judgement is something I find quite frequent here.

 

[Crimson Ice]

You are talking about that time? Lol, the DK literally stated that with his OG magic, he could fight him when he had the Ruler, nice denial.

He literally was surprised, that proves that he bypassed the Ruler, he can easily reactivate it in seconds and he had all the time to do that.
The burden of proof is on you.

Are you in denial? Zeldoris literally stated that he overpowered the DK power and noted the impossibility of the feat.

That chapter confirmed nothing since we already knew that Meliodas is even above the DK witb his OG power and can't remain into the mortal world and even without it, can overcomes the DK power lol.

Feat that Merlin never saw.

Just because he said he could fight him doesn’t mean The Ruler was active, the Demon King never expected Meliodas to activate it.

Headcanon you made up, one of the reasons the Demon King could have been shocked at is the fact Meliodas even activated his OG magic, not that he bypassed The Ruler. Stop passing your interpretation as fact when it hasn’t been confirmed. YOU SAID he bypassed The Ruler, that means the burden of proof is on YOU! Don’t use phrases you don’t know.

Are you referring to when he pinned down Zeldris? It’s noted that the power Zeldris borrows from the Demon King pales in comparison to the actual Demon King’s power.

LOOOOL Meliodas is not stronger than the Demon King, if he was he’d just use his OG power to boost himself up to that level, because either way he wouldn’t be able to stay in the human world.

Yikes, imagine thinking Meliodas is ACTUALLY stronger than the Demon King.

 

[sobreno]

Just because he said he could fight him doesn’t mean The Ruler was active, the Demon King never expected Meliodas to activate it.

Headcanon you made up, one of the reasons the Demon King could have been shocked at is the fact Meliodas even activated his OG magic, not that he bypassed The Ruler. Stop passing your interpretation as fact when it hasn’t been confirmed. YOU SAID he bypassed The Ruler, that means the burden of proof is on YOU! Don’t use phrases you don’t know.

Are you referring to when he pinned down Zeldris? It’s noted that the power Zeldris borrows from the Demon King pales in comparison to the actual Demon King’s power.

LOOOOL Meliodas is not stronger than the Demon King, if he was he’d just use his OG power to boost himself up to that level, because either way he wouldn’t be able to stay in the human world.

Yikes, imagine thinking Meliodas is ACTUALLY stronger than the Demon King.

Yes, it is, the Ruler is literally always active unless he disactivate him himself.

He still was beyond surprised, not because Meliodas used it, but because of his effect on his body, re read the chapter again.

I said, he could, since his surprise, the burden of proof is on you for stating that his Ruler was still disactivate lol.
You realize that he can switch on and off instantaneously? That he was targeting Meliodas?

I like how you are in denial about the manga, completely ignoring that Meliodas actually " fear " his OG power? Completely ignoring that the manga literally stated that he couldn't remain with his OG power on the mortal world?
Meliodas is scared of his own power, hence why he never used it.

And? The DK power borrowed by Zeldoris is still the DK power hax, even if it doesn't compare to the real deal, it is still above any demons or no God creature and Meliodas still overpowered it.
Your Meliodas downplay is atrocious lol.

Yikes on your stupid downplay and denial feat on OG power of Meliodas and his destruction hax ability.

 

[Ger]

it's funny because masters has shown no feat comparing to meliodas at all.

it's funny too because zeldris states "cusack even surpasses me", like meliodas already surpassed his little brother by massive big margin of gap.

so those who thinks he stays at 150k, here's the deal

"is growing greater than its previous levels"

even after being defeated by escanor he was getting stronger by the time they got to the boar hat lmao.

Also we dont even know what time mael fought meliodas, we can't determine due to his unchangeable physique compare to escanor. For all we know he fought meliodas already at his peak and retreated due to meliodas able to handle mael at one minute limit.

but yeah escanor's the one form is totally buff but mael doesn't get buff even when sun is active.

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Also Zeldris own borrowed magic is nerfed compare to the real deal due to the fact it only nullifies all magical attacks, but yet meliodas bypassed that using magical attack and pinned him without any effort.

 

[lindananahayashida]

SD - 600k
DK - 500k
Mel + OG + 5C - 500k
Mael (T O) - 400k
Sinner - 350k
Ban - 300k
King - 250k

 

[Shadowlord123]

SD - 600k
DK - 500k
Mel + OG + 5C - 500k
Mael (T O) - 400k
Sinner - 350k
Ban - 300k
King - 250k

Why is the SD above the DK? Curious to know why you think this.

 

[lindananahayashida]

Why is the SD above the DK? Curious to know why you think this.

Just = Hunch

Due to,
Sunshine ability = SD => PL (Inconsistent)

Also,
If Regular DK = SD
Indura DK > SD

So,
SD > DK (=/= Indura)

 

[Redworld96]

I must be the only person in this forum that doesn't think Ban's new PL is superior to King's new PL