Alright since you're trying to have that argument then prove that Elizabeth ark is HER original power. If that's the case then every goddess own original power is their ark even though Elizabeth has already awakened her ark ability before she awakened to her former self.
Why do I need to argue for this? Ark is her original power, you even see her use techniques such as "Let There Be Light" and immense healing on command that she performed as a Goddess.
Oh yeah because in chapter 233 Merlin already states meliodas is growing in strength greater than before aftermath. And that's in the middle of tha coma. For all the possibility meliodas was awakening at EXPONENTIAL RATE, where Merlin wanting to isolate him rather Elizabeth getting involved.
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Let there be light is an ark?? Based on what description. Is light of salvation an ark as well?? If so I want proof of it.
I really don't care if Meliodas was growing stronger, fact is Elizabeth (if she really was at her original level) would've been perfectly capable of calming him down unlike Escanor who had to almost kill him. But yet, she wasn't allowed in? Why? Because she never had her original strength to begin with.
Does Elizabeth have the fighting capability to counter meliodas?? You're exposing her fighting style which is basically not combatant. EVEN THEN the fact escanor was already in the battle field about to fight meliodas and Elizabeth was far away from the fight clearly shows the notion.
Sorry but this argument doesnt help you as it leaves holes into your argument. So are we now saying Elizabeth is comparable to mael same way he portrayed to be only a rival to meliodas??
We don't exactly know that considering the only battle she's been shown in was against the Indura, which was a tug of war rather than a typical beat down.
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Comparable doesn't mean rival. It just means she's similiar in strength to Meliodas.
Just like in her so called "goddess body". Because the fact that her CURSE WAS NEVER STATED to weakened her since shes in a human body. The fact that SHES REINCARNATED PROVES THAT NOTION, this is not like shes possessing a human body everywhere for 3000 years but rather DYING as shes being reincarnated.
Mael made the comparison to begin with. You just told me that Merlin was there with Mel and Eli so she knows Eli’s power. Yet the guy that grew up with eli as part of the same clan since childhood before Merlin doesn’t? And you are accusing someone else of putting holes in their argument?
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....didn’t nakaba say that Liz was about as strong as twigo...you also have miss Lioness to look at...her power was quite obviously being tampered with......what in the world are you doing emphasizing an ignorantly wrong statement?
Based on what? Comparable DOES NOT intend to define as being equal. You can still be comparable but the gap is big. Her feats either way doesnt suggest anything that would fit in the conversation that shes comparable to emotion meliodas who obviously we know gets weaker as he gains positive emotions.
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Um yeah and we know Maels bias towards Elizabeth and against meliodas right?? Are we clearly forgetting his overall character towards those people?? You're comparing a statement which has many holes in it which I can clearly say couple of the holes while the other has no holes in it.
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Oh yeah you're talking about nakaba stating liz from 50 chapters in the series. Right. So can we stop going on a strawman route and actually focus on the topic?? If u want to debunk my argument then feel free to gather your scans because if you're gonna argue agaisnt my stance it's not gonna help you.
1- he couldnt hope to be on par with = he cant even see himself reaching his level with traning
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again no one said he is the strongest cuz of the grace +the problem is you think even the one mael will get stomp from mel without OG magic
Do you need them to say he was weaker without it? If someone’s power rises over time, what can you say if that persons power didn’t rise overtime?1- he couldnt hope to be on par with = he cant even see himself reaching his level with traning
2- “even though he no longer has the grace” mean that he still the strongest one without it
i mean weaker that them
Maels grace had the unique function of increasing his power overtime. If this function is no longer active or he no longer possess the grace than at the very least you are given grounds to question how his power stacks up against his older brother no?