Chapter Fairy Tail: 100YQ Chapter 222 Discussion

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Prove that Levia is stronger than Scissor Runner, You have to prove this not me because you are basing this out of nothing but bias against Mirajane.

Skullion against Mira

Skullion against Laxus
Skullion is my proof, to debunk it you need to prove that Mirajane got any stronger without Wendy enchantment, because Laxus also got the same buff, so mathematically Laxus is still stronger.

Levia and Scissor runner have no exposition or power interactions so comparing them to people working together who showed or who you think showed gaps in power is irrelevant. Deal with facts. No feats or hype have shown that eg. Levia is heavier, physically stronger, has a stronger roar or anything than Scissor runner. His life jail hax is also irrelevant since Laxus with help from Wraith overcame it. What did Levia and Scissor runner show to give us Levia > Scissor Runner? Until then they are hyped and portrayed as equals. All motherglare did was make fodder for erza to slash before going hand to hand.
LOL you are the one arbitrarily comparing them just because they are posing together and have the guts to call this comparison a fact. I don't care about who is heavier, this is not a olympic competition of shot put, and Skullion proves that Levia is stronger, deal with it. Lmao, like if Mira will get Wraith help. Were signarios hyped to be equals? I already mentioned the duo ''supposed'' equals, the spriggans were hyped to be equals, there are literal statements, you are assuming equality via voices in your head. Motherglare endured more hits than Irene lmao.

No it doesn't because Mira was in her base form which is low diff material for Halphas.
It irrelvant to a present feat where she is performing on his level. At this point you all are clinging to Skullion for comfort because you can't accept you're wrong and have always BEEN wrong about Mirajane. LMAO!
Can you prove that she got stronger than Skullion besides the Wendy buff and WITHOUT MAKING ASSUMPTIONS. I use Skullion because you can't prove anything, you just cry and make assumptions.

I can play your game... MIRA HAS SCISSOR RUNNER SCALING, WHAT'S JELLAL'S EXCUSE?
What is Scissor Runner scaling? :gigglebunny Lol you got desperate now, you are clinging to the assumption that Scissor Runner is equal to Levia via pose scaling and voices in your head and calling it a day. Jellal has been portrayed as Laxus rival in 100YQ, defeated God Serena who was praised by Gildarts who wanted to fight him, was ranked above Laxus by Mashima himself at a time, and playing your game Zeref also compared Laxus and Jellal


This was at Alvarez and Mashima kept portraying Jellal as Laxus rival, but since you like outdated statements let me give this one


Mira herslef said that SHE and Erza combined wouldn't beat Jura who Laxus soloed, so she always have consistently portrayed to be way below Laxus, so ye, things indeed didn't changed much 🤣

LMAO You can't fight the statements so you're trying to make your contrived criteria why they all don't count. Keep coping.

Please. Erza and Mira were below spriggan BACK THEN so comparing her to Makarov is supporting Mira's power.

Yeah and Gajeel was also left out of the strongest people being in the center city. Last time I checked Natsu beat him and left him in right hand city lmao
Ok well I say Skullion vs Mira is outdated, what now?

Mashima personally put you in charge of deciding what counts and what doesn't?
I'm not fighting them, i'm just saying they don't mean anything just because you want them to mean. That's the problem of generic statements, it's not my fault. I even just posted a direct statement of Mira admission of inferiority to Jura, it's crystal clear, not generic but pretty specific, it is needed MIRA and Erza to beat Jura, more specific than that impossible. It's outdated but it's a perfect example of non generic statement, learn with it.

And Laxus was above spriggan level back then, Mira got stronger by becoming spriggan level, not above.

You can just assume power progression and call it a day lol

You assume that Mirajane grew stronger from fodder to Base Laxus level to Dragon King Base Laxus but i'm the one arbitrarily deciding things:yodawg

I've been waiting for you guys' crash out about Mira's scaling for years. You all tried to deny Mira vs Azuma, Seilah and Skullion when compared to Erza vs Azuma, Kyoka and Kyria so let's see you all weasel out of this.
Deny what? Was she the one who defeated Azuma? And Seilah was stronger than Mira while Erza soloed Kyouka lmao or you wanna say that it's my fault that Elfman helped Mira against Seilah? And the comparison is not even with Kyria is with Laxus himself. And you who deny Mira own comparison with Jura ?
 

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Wtf do i read here?Mira or Laxus will never surpass Jellal who is>GS who is>Mr "Im gonna fight Aldoron" and Ms offscreen.Fraud Couple for you
 

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Wtf do i read here?Mira or Laxus will never surpass Jellal who is>GS who is>Mr "Im gonna fight Aldoron" and Ms offscreen.Fraud Couple for you
Same GS who is < Signario Sisters < Duke. The latter of which was bested by Natsu imitating whom? Correct. Laxus.

Jellal fans honestly should still be in hiding. He isn't even relevant to current power standings.
 

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Skullion against Mira

Skullion against Laxus
Skullion is my proof, to debunk it you need to prove that Mirajane got any stronger without Wendy enchantment, because Laxus also got the same buff, so mathematically Laxus is still stronger.
Actually mathematically it would mean Mira is on par with Laxus SINCE they have the same buff. This is what I am talking about, you all scale backwards and it shows.

Mira literally hurt Laxus' dragon here though so by your logic she is Laxus leveled.


Skullion is irrelvant if we're seeing Mira and Laxus take on identical opponents NOW. Are you seriously using Skullion to prove that Scissor runner < Levia? LMAO!

Furthermore, Mirajane tied with Skullion in her base form. Conversely Erza with clear heart and benizakura was outclassed by Kyria then Erza used enchantments to overwhelm Kyria and later Erza had an EXTREME DIFF fight with Laxus. So even using Skullion fails to counter anything Mira does in forms like Alegria.

LOL you are the one arbitrarily comparing them just because they are posing together and have the guts to call this comparison a fact. I don't care about who is heavier, this is not a olympic competition of shot put, and Skullion proves that Levia is stronger, deal with it. Lmao, like if Mira will get Wraith help. Were signarios hyped to be equals? I already mentioned the duo ''supposed'' equals, the spriggans were hyped to be equals, there are literal statements, you are assuming equality via voices in your head. Motherglare endured more hits than Irene lmao.
At this point you're trolling. You are ignoring a myriad of factors and are being disingenuous because I clearly spoke about portrayal, statements, feats and yes them standing together when they are being called the most reliable duo or when Mira and Laxus are tanking identical attacks are proof of parity.

Arbitrarily and I provided statements like Happy stating Erza, Mystogan, Mira were competing with Laxus for strongest after Gildarts; Natsu stating the strongest enemies are in the center so Mira OR Laxus OR Jellal would be expected there.


Can you prove that she got stronger than Skullion besides the Wendy buff and WITHOUT MAKING ASSUMPTIONS. I use Skullion because you can't prove anything, you just cry and make assumptions.
Lol I'm not the one crying and doing maths about 2x4 and 2x10 LMAO that's you.

I don't need to prove Mira got stronger than Skullion because she tied with him in BSS and now she's saving Laxus from dragons so...


What is Scissor Runner scaling? :gigglebunny Lol you got desperate now, you are clinging to the assumption that Scissor Runner is equal to Levia via pose scaling and voices in your head and calling it a day. Jellal has been portrayed as Laxus rival in 100YQ, defeated God Serena who was praised by Gildarts who wanted to fight him, was ranked above Laxus by Mashima himself at a time, and playing your game Zeref also compared Laxus and Jellal


This was at Alvarez and Mashima kept portraying Jellal as Laxus rival, but since you like outdated statements let me give this one


Mira herslef said that SHE and Erza combined wouldn't beat Jura who Laxus soloed, so she always have consistently portrayed to be way below Laxus, so ye, things indeed didn't changed much 🤣
Nice try but you talked about God Serena vs Jellal and asked about Mira so Scissor Runner says hi.
Are you saying Scissor Runner < God Serena?


Also Erza broke that scaling when she drove Laxus to extreme diff so spare me the convenient use of statements that are suddenly not outdated when you use it. Laxus and Jellal were stronger in the GMG but in 100 years quest the scaling is clear and even back then Erza was a challenge to Laxus and Mystogan in the Battle of FT.

I'm not fighting them, i'm just saying they don't mean anything just because you want them to mean. That's the problem of generic statements, it's not my fault. I even just posted a direct statement of Mira admission of inferiority to Jura, it's crystal clear, not generic but pretty specific, it is needed MIRA and Erza to beat Jura, more specific than that impossible. It's outdated but it's a perfect example of non generic statement, learn with it.
I love how you made up this term of 'generic statements'.
So statements don't matter; feats don't matter; portrayal doesn't matter.
Your logic is:

-Statements are generic statements showing parity
-BSS Mira vs Skullion means Scissor Runner is weaker than Levia cause Alegria Mira fought him.
-Mira tanking the same attacks as Laxus means in the most recent chapter means nothing.

Literally no one but you believes this.

And Laxus was above spriggan level back then, Mira got stronger by becoming spriggan level, not above.

You can just assume power progression and call it a day lol
Feats and hype in 100 years quest say otherwise. Laxus and Jellal did better in the GMG, Tartaros and Alvarez than Mira and even Erza HOWEVER Erza and Mira totally matched them in 100 years quest.

You are being purposefully obtuse.

You are assuming that Mira is way weaker than Laxus so her opponents MUST be way weaker than his so the Calamity Bloods cannot be close in power. That's factually incorrect.

You assume that Mirajane grew stronger from fodder to Base Laxus level to Dragon King Base Laxus but i'm the one arbitrarily deciding things:yodawg
Yeah you pretty much are since you are claiming scissor runner is quite weaker than Levia because Mira is his opponent.

I didn't assume anything, Mira just proved it. She saved Laxus, damaged both dragons with her physical strength and tanked the same moves Laxus tanked, she even fell together with Laxus in true shonen fashion.



Deny what? Was she the one who defeated Azuma? And Seilah was stronger than Mira while Erza soloed Kyouka lmao or you wanna say that it's my fault that Elfman helped Mira against Seilah? And the comparison is not even with Kyria is with Laxus himself. And you who deny Mira own comparison with Jura ?
I am denying CURRENT MIRA'S scaling with JURA/LAXUS/JELLAL yes since the story advanced past that and newer developments support otherwise.
You are denying that Mira got stronger because you're in denial. LOL You are actually telling people on this forum that Scissor runner is weaker than Levia because Mira tied with Skullion in base arcs ago and said her and elfman couldn't beat his duo. How strange is that?

Mira chose to save her sister instead of fight Azuma. Erza got the help of Jellal and the island's FT magic so ironically enough Mira's help too.
Mira powered up to summon Elfman and Erza powered up to beat Kyoka after both sitri and armadura were beaten.
Nope the comparison is with Kyria because you're harping on Mira vs Skullion in her base when Erza with benizakura was matched by his subordinate. So Erza proved that one can have issues with the dragon eaters then still tie with Laxus.

Ignoring context and nuance is like your hobby or something?

You better pray that Mira doesn't do anything more to Levia next chapters. That would crush your special math.





Stay mad.
 
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Skullion against Mira

Skullion against Laxus
Skullion is my proof, to debunk it you need to prove that Mirajane got any stronger without Wendy enchantment, because Laxus also got the same buff, so mathematically Laxus is still stronger.
problem is the fact that characters can get stronger pretty much out of nowhere unless you think Skullion > human viernes
 

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I’m sorry, but it’s impossible for Mira to reach Laxus’s defensive stats. This is only happening because they’re being "shipped" together. Mira is essentially leeching off Laxus.
 

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Lmao,GS would wash this fucking frauds

Neither would Hiro let Lucy/Wendy ever touch GS once


And Jellal is>GS
Yeah when Duke turned him into a robot he installed a retard chip in him that’s why he thought they were stronger /s
 

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Actually mathematically it would mean Mira is on par with Laxus SINCE they have the same buff. This is what I am talking about, you all scale backwards and it shows.

Mira literally hurt Laxus' dragon here though so by your logic she is Laxus leveled.
LOL you either don't know math or is just playing dumb to push Mira agenda. Hoteye is equal to Laxus now lmao :yodawg . I even explained that 2 x 2 is 4 and 2 x 10 is 20, despite both cases having 2 as THE EXACT SAME MULTIPLIER.



Is Giant Lucy stronger than Merc ? Was Lucy abilities that destroyed the lacrima or it was only possible BECAUSE OF A DRAGON BODY.

Skullion is irrelvant if we're seeing Mira and Laxus take on identical opponents NOW. Are you seriously using Skullion to prove that Scissor runner < Levia? LMAO!

Furthermore, Mirajane tied with Skullion in her base form. Conversely Erza with clear heart and benizakura was outclassed by Kyria then Erza used enchantments to overwhelm Kyria and later Erza had an EXTREME DIFF fight with Laxus. So even using Skullion fails to counter anything Mira does in forms like Alegria.
Prove that they are identicals. CBs don't have all equals statement like spriggans. You can cry as much as you want, without all equals statement you have nothing

Complain with Mira own words

At this point you're trolling. You are ignoring a myriad of factors and are being disingenuous because I clearly spoke about portrayal, statements, feats and yes them standing together when they are being called the most reliable duo or when Mira and Laxus are tanking identical attacks are proof of parity.

Arbitrarily and I provided statements like Happy stating Erza, Mystogan, Mira were competing with Laxus for strongest after Gildarts; Natsu stating the strongest enemies are in the center so Mira OR Laxus OR Jellal would be expected there.
You use arguments that would equalize Hoteye to Laxus and i'm the disingenuous one you clown. You speak of generic statement that mean nothing, overwank feats based on your agenda and call it a day.

And you ignore Mira admission of inferiority to Jura. Something very specific and bot generic

I don't need to prove Mira got stronger than Skullion because she tied with him in BSS and now she's saving Laxus from dragons so...
Mira said that if the fight continued she don't know if she could win, and she already had access to Allegria, so cope harder.

Nice try but you talked about God Serena vs Jellal and asked about Mira so Scissor Runner says hi.
Are you saying Scissor Runner < God Serena?


Also Erza broke that scaling when she drove Laxus to extreme diff so spare me the convenient use of statements that are suddenly not outdated when you use it. Laxus and Jellal were stronger in the GMG but in 100 years quest the scaling is clear and even back then Erza was a challenge to Laxus and Mystogan in the Battle of FT.
Precisely, God Serena> Scissor Runner and Anchor. It's not because it's a new enemy that i'm gonna overwank the fraud.

Erza just got stronger she didn't break the scaling lmao. Jura statement is outdated, but you are only using outdated statement and claiming that it's her portrayal, so Jura statement is also part of her portrayal, accept it, she was never equal to Laxus and Jellal, she was only equal to Erza but Erza got stronger than her, and i would say since GMG as Mira didn't knew about her second origin when she made the Jura statement. Erza was a challenge but even her wasn't Laxus and Mystogan level, Mystogan just dismiss Laxus for calling Erza weak, he didn't try to push her to their level like the anime does.


Then we have Tenrou where Laxus outperformed Erza, then we have Gray in post timeskip saying that Gildarts AND Laxus as the guild members who didn't suffer from 7 years powercreep, i do not see Mirajane name here.


I love how you made up this term of 'generic statements'.
So statements don't matter; feats don't matter; portrayal doesn't matter.
Your logic is:

-Statements are generic statements showing parity
-BSS Mira vs Skullion means Scissor Runner is weaker than Levia cause Alegria Mira fought him.
-Mira tanking the same attacks as Laxus means in the most recent chapter means nothing.

Literally no one but you believes this.
Do you how a statement show parity?




Here, these are true parity statements Ajeel have equal MP to Brandish and Kirin has equal MP to Gildarts. This is parity, not a list of the strongest fairy tail mages. It's too much to ask for this level of specification?

And the two dragons used a roar. Base Laxus is weaker than Levia so of course he would get damaged.

Feats and hype in 100 years quest say otherwise. Laxus and Jellal did better in the GMG, Tartaros and Alvarez than Mira and even Erza HOWEVER Erza and Mira totally matched them in 100 years quest.

You are being purposefully obtuse.

You are assuming that Mira is way weaker than Laxus so her opponents MUST be way weaker than his so the Calamity Bloods cannot be close in power. That's factually incorrect.
Lmao, like if fighting Skullion is not a 100YQ feat of Mira. And which hype she got? You just cling to a list of strongest FT mages without any specification. Complain with Mira own words about Skullion.

Yeah you pretty much are since you are claiming scissor runner is quite weaker than Levia because Mira is his opponent.

I didn't assume anything, Mira just proved it. She saved Laxus, damaged both dragons with her physical strength and tanked the same moves Laxus tanked, she even fell together with Laxus in true shonen fashion.
Yes, i'm gonna put it clear, Scissor Runner is weaker because he was Mira's opponent. Prove me wrong without generic statements, i already showed examples of valid specific statements. And note that i did not said that Scissor Runner is weaker than Mira, he is not, you are clinging to a Mira feat that don't even puts her above Scissor Runner lmao.

I am denying CURRENT MIRA'S scaling with JURA/LAXUS/JELLAL yes since the story advanced past that and newer developments support otherwise.
You are denying that Mira got stronger because you're in denial. LOL You are actually telling people on this forum that Scissor runner is weaker than Levia because Mira tied with Skullion in base arcs ago and said her and elfman couldn't beat his duo. How strange is that?

Mira chose to save her sister instead of fight Azuma. Erza got the help of Jellal and the island's FT magic so ironically enough Mira's help too.
Mira powered up to summon Elfman and Erza powered up to beat Kyoka after both sitri and armadura were beaten.
Nope the comparison is with Kyria because you're harping on Mira vs Skullion in her base when Erza with benizakura was matched by his subordinate. So Erza proved that one can have issues with the dragon eaters then still tie with Laxus.

Ignoring context and nuance is like your hobby or something?

You better pray that Mira doesn't do anything more to Levia next chapters. That would crush your special math.
LOL you have been using old Mira statements but for those statements the story did not advanced, your double standards are hilarious. I put Jura statement as bait that you bite :gigglebunny I'm not saying she didn't got stronger, i'm saying that the power hierarchy did not changed FOR MIRA. Not assuming arbitrary power growths is strange now?

Jellal wasn't even present, if Erza got motivated by Jellal it's still by her own merit, if Mira gets motivated by her siblings the feat she gets is from her own merit too. Without Elfman Mira was done, Erza defeated Kyouka alone. She mid diffed Kyria in her rematch anyway, what's the point? Just pointing that Erza became Laxus level ending the rivalry with Mira for once and for all. Kyria hax can work on Laxus too, but he can still physically fodderize her without that.

You are acting like if Elfman won't ruin next chapters for Laxus and Mira fans.

Yeah you pretty much are since you are claiming scissor runner is quite weaker than Levia because Mira is his opponent.

I didn't assume anything, Mira just proved it. She saved Laxus, damaged both dragons with her physical strength and tanked the same moves Laxus tanked, she even fell together with Laxus in true shonen fashion.
Should i assume that Meredy is equal to Azuma when Meredy was Juvia's opponent and Azuma was Erza's opponent? Should i assume that Ezel is equal to Kyouka when Ezel is Wendy's opponent and Kyouka's Erza opponent? No, because Juvia and Wendy are not equals to Erza, it's the same logic. After Skullion Mira can't be equal to Erza without a solid power up, be real.

You convinced me, Lucy is stronger than Merc and Erza is stronger than Acno :umad

Same GS who is < Signario Sisters < Duke. The latter of which was bested by Natsu imitating whom? Correct. Laxus.
One need to be delusional to believe any signario is stronger than Serena. Prove that Luso is even spriggan level, i can prove that she is below that

problem is the fact that characters can get stronger pretty much out of nowhere unless you think Skullion > human viernes
Gray used black ice against Viernes, something new, besides back at Alvarez we already saw that he could get much stronger while buffed by emotions. Without black ice or anny emotion buff he is weaker than Skullion
 
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Lmao,GS would wash this fucking frauds

Neither would Hiro let Lucy/Wendy ever touch GS once


And Jellal is>GS
Oh, how could I forget the moment GS spammed damn near every spell in his arsenal only for 1HP damage on Lucy and co.

Totally convincing argument there.

Anyway, call me when Jellal redeems himself for this. Only Erza got her lick back tenfold. Until then, he remains a victim. Duke > Signario > GS remains as per canon manga.
 

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Gray used black ice against Viernes, something new, besides back at Alvarez we already saw that he could get much stronger while buffed by emotions. Without black ice or anny emotion buff he is weaker than Skullion
I have nothing and I feel like arguing right now 👍
 

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Oh, how could I forget the moment GS spammed damn near every spell in his arsenal only for 1HP damage on Lucy and co.

Totally convincing argument there.

Anyway, call me when Jellal redeems himself for this. Only Erza got her lick back tenfold. Until then, he remains a victim. Duke > Signario > GS remains as per canon manga.

Marin Hollow was stronger than Alvarez Erza all alone, you convinced me.




Holy $hit, Youko's Smoke Warrior defeated Erza and Wendy 😲 Forget Serena, time to push the new goat agenda, Smoke Warrior is stronger than Irene, he defeated the duo way more easily than Irene ever could, all hail Smoke Warrior :worship2

Luso is just a overglazed fodder, a luxury version of Marin Hollow and Smoke Warrior. Even downplaying Serena to regular spriggan level i challenge anyone here to prove that she is any stronger than Wall or Fodderhart.


Gildarts wanted to battle alive Serena and praised him. Luso was clowned by Aquarius Lucy who struggled with Karameel who was negg diffed by BRANDISH.
 

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Marin Hollow was stronger than Alvarez Erza all alone, you convinced me.




Holy $hit, Youko's Smoke Warrior defeated Erza and Wendy 😲 Forget Serena, time to push the new goat agenda, Smoke Warrior is stronger than Irene, he defeated the duo way more easily than Irene ever could, all hail Smoke Warrior :worship2

Luso is just a overglazed fodder, a luxury version of Marin Hollow and Smoke Warrior. Even downplaying Serena to regular spriggan level i challenge anyone here to prove that she is any stronger than Wall or Fodderhart.


Gildarts wanted to battle alive Serena and praised him. Luso was clowned by Aquarius Lucy who struggled with Karameel who was negg diffed by BRANDISH.
Your walls of text are bothersome to read enough. Stop spamming panels with zero correlation. Nothing you say will overrule the author.
 

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Your walls of text are bothersome to read enough. Stop spamming panels with zero correlation. Nothing you say will overrule the author.
How many times i have to explain ? More frightening is not stronger, cope harder
 

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How many times i have to explain ? More frightening is not stronger, cope harder
"Turns out the world is a big place and ishgar does not rank high within it"

You are too arrogant to be lacking this badly in comprehension skills
 

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Maybe this 3 characters were stronger in the Labyrinth arc for hype reasons but they clearly got retconned

Jellal was the one who was needed to beat GS,who is STILL on Gildarts-tier.Both sisters lost to Erza in a 2vs1 fight and Duke was your classic old fart Guildleader.A mid-tier character at best without any feats.

And no,the CB are not equal.Earthbuild so far seems the strongest.That guy took on Human Igneel,amped Natsu and is now facing Lucy amped by Merc and Selene
 

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"Turns out the world is a big place and ishgar does not rank high within it"

You are too arrogant to be lacking this badly in comprehension skills
Serena was downplaying Ishgar, he even thought that the Gods of Ishgar were still the top tiers there and Gajeel even corrected him.

I'm talking with the one who pushed Mira agenda to the point of saying Daemon was any relevant to Dragon Aldoron and now is trying to defend a fodder who get clowned by Aquarius Lucy, so i have no choice other than being arrogant
 
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