Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Summer]

I think it times for people to realize and open their eyes that gray only win against mard becoz of the nature of his magic . He is nowhere near defeating that guy if silver didn't give that magic to him . If he use ice make magic he wouldn't have the advantage against mard .

Comparing erza and gray fight against a demon is not that fair IMO .

 

[LucifeCollins]

I'm taking into account the size of the attack, he literally covered the GOI with that attack while with Natsu and the others were still afloat when he used an attack with them, it's pretty obvious where he was serious and where he wasn't...

Pretty sure Erza has always been inferior to Gray ever since Tartarus since Gray was manhandling Mard Geer alone while Erza was having problems with Kyouka and even a weaker Sayla, also In Avatar Gray beat Goumon in one hit while Erza was given trouble by Jerome...
Gray beating Ul is better than Erza losing to three Historia who are all weaker than Ur, there's proof for the current arc right there..

Easy, Mirajane Alegria is stronger than Nakagami Erza, her armor won't do anything to Mira so that already puts Mira above Erza

Erza was severely weakened when the 3 Historias came up against her. You can't really use that as Ur was beaten by Gray and Lyon.

Mirajane's Alegria is destructive and uses Magic explosions—Erza uses a sword. Come on now. Just going by a small nuke that wiped out mid-tier fodder isn't comparable to fighting an actual Spriggan—even if it was with help. You're kinda grasping here.

 

[Alvarez Princess]

Can we stop this nonsense that Erza soloed a spriggan with minor help? It was major help. and it was clearly shown that Erza was not caught in the crossfire between Jupiter canon and Ajeel. Ajeel took the brunt of the damage. Basically Erza took advantage of a weakned off-guard Ajeel flying off from the canon attack and donned her strongest armor. It's clear Ajeel is way above her league. Saying otherwise, makes you incapable of understanding what Mashima wanted to implement.

My stance on Gray being > Erza stands.

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

No, August is the only one among the spriggan 12 that can be cut with a butter knife despite his stregnth, I've already discussed this in another debate that a knife is NOT more powerful than a punch that break down walls, a roar that can melt rock etc,

Ok, I'm getting tired of you spouting this crap, so I'm putting an end to this now:

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Here we have ToH Erza cutting ToH Jellal which causes him a lot of pain and discomfort (obviously). But wait, there's more!!!

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Natsu is wailing on Jelllal with multiple of his attacks that have been known to cause major collateral damage to towns. Yet when Natsu finishes his assault on Jellal the latter emerges completely fine and in no pain whatsoever unlike with Erza's one slash to the abdomen. But wait, there's more!!!

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Here we have Minerva's Yagdo Rigora hitting both Erza and Kagura. The spell had enough power to completely wipe out half a building yet both Kagura and Erza are fine and uninjured:

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Impressive right? Now take a look at this:

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Kagura went down completely from Minerva's sneaky stab from behind while she tanked a spell with enough DC to destroy half a building.

There are more examples that I can show you of characters that can tank building destroying attacks with little to no damage but will go down or take a lot of damage from one simple stab if they are caught off guard like August was. However, I feel like I would be beating a dead horse if I continued, so I'll leave you with these two examples.

 

[Laxus chan-yo]

Hot damn all this Gildarts wanking makes me mad. I forgot how much I loathe that character.

Soon Laxus's spot at number 1 will come you dirty inbred hack.

Maybe not yet but soon.

 

[Hermit]

I think it times for people to realize and open their eyes that gray only win against mard becoz of the nature of his magic . He is nowhere near defeating that guy if silver didn't give that magic to him . If he use ice make magic he wouldn't have the advantage against mard .

Comparing erza and gray fight against a demon is not that fair IMO .

Sure thing buddy, that's why all of Tartaros was beaten by Demon Slayers, right?
Demon Slaying isn't even a factor here, Gray was able to wield that magic at a high enough level to injure Mard, if Slaying Magic meant a sure win for anyone who fought their opponent then the GMG Dragons would have all been toast..
The wizard himself also matters in this scenario
Tartarus Gray> Tartarus Erza

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

I like you, I like this post. Put down all the nonsense that people have been spewing.

Thanks bro . I like you too. Yeah, someone had to put an end to the nonsense going around that August can't tank anything stronger than a butterknife.

 

[LucifeCollins]

Can we stop this nonsense that Erza soloed a spriggan with minor help? It was major help. and it was clearly shown that Erza was not caught in the crossfire between Jupiter canon and Ajeel. Ajeel took the brunt of the damage. Basically Erza took advantage of a weakned off-guard Ajeel flying off from the canon attack and donned her strongest armor. It's clear Ajeel is way above her league. Saying otherwise, makes you incapable of understanding what Mashima wanted to implement.

My stance on Gray being > Erza stands.

Jupiter cannon? You mean that thing he swatted away beforehand? It isn't a blade that off-guard can cut through and do real damage. Ajeel's power makes it so even off-guard Jupiter cannon ain't gonna be doing much if he can swat it away.

Erza used an armor that slices through space itself and is able to cut through Magic. Her help was minimal. She isn't as weak compared to a Spriggan as you keep saying, and Gray isn't shown to be above her either until he shows any real power without being a hard counter (Invel).

 

[Laxus chan-yo]

I like you, I like this post. Put down all the nonsense that people have been spewing.

Thanks bro . I like you too. Yeah, someone had to put an end to the nonsense going around that August can't tank anything stronger than a butterknife.

Mangahelpers helping people find their soulmates since 2010.

Anyway LucifeCollins who is number 1 if not Gildarts or Laxus?

 

[Alvarez Princess]

Jupiter cannon? You mean that thing he swatted away beforehand? It isn't a blade that off-guard can cut through and do real damage. Ajeel's power makes it so even off-guard Jupiter cannon ain't gonna be doing much if he can swat it away.

Erza used an armor that slices through space itself and is able to cut through Magic. Her help was minimal. She isn't as weak compared to a Spriggan as you keep saying, and Gray isn't shown to be above her either until he shows any real power without being a hard counter (Invel).

Jupiter canon did keep Ajeel off-guard. An energy blast from a can can keep you off-guard as well. This is common sense. The brunt of the damage was caused by Jupiter canon which made him leap off to a point Erza took advantage.

Saying her help is minimal shows your absolute lack of understanding here, and downplay of Jupiter's canon effect on Ajeel considering his health was at good terms.

Read what I constantly said before: Based on hype, scaling, puts Gray ahead of Erza, so therefore Gray>Erza. I'm basing it on his full demonized form+trump card, that he'll be above Erza, even if he doesn't have the sufficient feats so far. She's shown to be that weak against a spriggan, and if you can't accept that much, then I don't want to deal with those that are in denial of how she was portrayed against Ajeel.

 

[Summer]

Sure thing buddy, that's why all of Tartaros was beaten by Demon Slayers, right?
Demon Slaying isn't even a factor here, Gray was able to wield that magic at a high enough level to injure Mard, if Slaying Magic meant a sure win for anyone who fought their opponent then the GMG Dragons would have all been toast..
The wizard himself also matters in this scenario
Tartarus Gray> Tartarus Erza

Of course gray didn't defeat all of the demon lol.... what are you trying to say? Even though I'm pretty sure he can do it if he is given time to recover .

I don't think you should even compare a dragon to a puny demon.... they're nowhere near the same power level . The dragon is a lots stronger than mard and of course the slayers are lots weaker at that times that why they had trouble defeating the dragon and for your information gray struggles to fight mard too . I'm not saying that gray will one shot everyone if he use demon slaying magic , I'm saying that he had the advantage . His magic is a lot much more effective to defeat a demon than others type of magic .

Gray even had help during the fight , and if it is not for his demon slaying magic he would be dead when mard cast memento mori .

 

[Alvarez Princess]

Of course gray didn't defeat all of the demon lol.... what are you trying to say? Even though I'm pretty sure he can do it if he is given time to recover .

I don't think you should even compare a dragon to a puny demon.... they're nowhere near the same power level . The dragon is a lots stronger than mard of course the lots weaker slayers at that times had trouble and for your information gray struggles to fight mard too . I'm not saying that gray will one shot everyone if he use demon slaying magic , I'm saying that he had the advantage . His magic is a lot much more effective to defeat a demon that others type of magic .

Gray even had help during the fight , and if it is not for his demon slaying magic he would be dead when mard cast memento mori .

Gray struggled only due to speed and flight advantage nothing more.

Well technically Natsu would be dead as well from Momento Mori.

 

[LucifeCollins]

Jupiter canon did keep Ajeel off-guard. An energy beam can keep you off-guard as well. This is common sense. The brunt of the damage was caused by Jupiter canon which made him leap off.

Saying her help is minimal shows your absolute lack of understanding here, and downplay of Jupiter's canon effect on Ajeel.

Read what I constantly said before: Based on hype, scaling, puts Gray ahead of Erza, so therefore Gray>Erza. I'm basing it on his full demonized form+trump card, that he'll be above Erza, even if he doesn't have the sufficient feats so far.

Brunt of the damage? It kept him off-guard! It did as much damage as a pencil being flicked at someone's back by a toddler. His trump card+demonization? You mean his unknown 'trump card' and 'full demonization' though the marks haven't fully covered him yet?

It's cute how you have to resort to insults already to try and sound like you know something or are right. But, that'll just make me take you less seriously if we're not even far into the debate and you're already going to that point. Tsk tsk.

Based on hype...you mean the hype that was put on the Spriggan only for them to be destroyed by a series of powered-up one-shots? Mmkay.

 

[Eisenfaust]

Jupiter canon did keep Ajeel off-guard. An energy blast from a can can keep you off-guard as well. This is common sense. The brunt of the damage was caused by Jupiter canon which made him leap off to a point Erza took advantage.

Saying her help is minimal shows your absolute lack of understanding here, and downplay of Jupiter's canon effect on Ajeel considering his health was at good terms.

All forget Ajeels Sandbody...
Without Water Erza cant damage him.
And at the end the use her strongest Armor too hit Ajeel.
Without Jupiter she cant hit Ajeels body,because her Armor weapon has no water.
With Jupiter Ajeel Guard down and Erza beat him.

 

[LucifeCollins]

All forget Ajeels Sandbody...
Without Water Erza cant damage him.
And at the end the use her strongest Armor too hit Ajeel.
Without Jupiter she cant hit Ajeels body,because her Armor weapon has no water.
With Jupiter Ajeel Guard down and Erza beat him.

Erza could've used Nakagami from the beginning and cut through the space where his body was. His body being sand would do nothing. Try again.

 

[Alvarez Princess]

Brunt of the damage? It kept him off-guard! It did as much damage as a pencil being flicked at someone's back by a toddler. His trump card+demonization? You mean his unknown 'trump card' and 'full demonization' though the marks haven't fully covered him yet?

It's cute how you have to resort to insults already to try and sound like you know something or are right. But, that'll just make me take you less seriously if we're not even far into the debate and you're already going to that point. Tsk tsk.

Based on hype...you mean the hype that was put on the Spriggan only for them to be destroyed by a series of powered-up one-shots? Mmkay.

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Does this look a pencil being flicked to you?

Yes, do you understand what hype and scaling means? Do you understand that not everything has to be by feats?

Yes, because there's not obviously not a difference at all on the situation right?

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Erza could've used Nakagami from the beginning and cut through the space where his body was. His body being sand would do nothing. Try again.

Then why didn't she? Oh may be because she isn't able to at a guarded Ajeel. Have you thought of that? Try again. Next thing you're going to say Laxus can be oneshotted by Erza's nakagami because she can through the space where his body was.

 

[Summer]

Erza could've used Nakagami from the beginning and cut through the space where his body was. His body being sand would do nothing. Try again.

Actually I think erza did use nakagami starlight to hits ajeel but that didn't work and not strong enough to defeat him.

 

[LucifeCollins]

Actually I think erza did use nakagami starlight to hits ajeel but that didn't work and not strong enough to defeat him.

She didn't use it before after Jupiter.

 

[Summer]

She didn't use it before after Jupiter.

Really If I remember right , she did use it before Jupiter.

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Recheck it and she use it after Jupiter or while ajeel is hit by Jupiter

 

[LucifeCollins]

Really If I remember right , she did use it before Jupiter.

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Recheck it and she use it after Jupiter or while ajeel is hit by Jupiter

She had used Morningstar or Fairy Armor beforehand, but used Nakagami to finish him off. I just checked through.

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Good job, you got no counterargument to what I displayed about Ajeel being big time injured by the jupiter canon where we clearly see him being flown away.

Hype and scaling doesn't equate to wanking, but continue being ignorant.

Your arguments: I believe Erza/Natsu are better than everyone because I wank to them the hardest!

Ajeel wasn't big time injured—he was sent flying. Amaze. Your logic really amazes me right here.