well, feats are feats. I mean, I agree that her battles are BS but feats are feats and tbh her fight with Ajeel was the only non BS fight. other fights like Jacob vs Natsu, Lucy, Wahl vs Laxus were bullshit.
People disregard bullshit feats because there's no way to use them as evidence for something. Take Erza VS Kagura for example. Erza was getting dominated by her SHEATHED sword. Kagura UNSHEATHES IT, Erza slashes her once, and Kagura is defeated. Now how do you use this feat? On the one hand, Erza was getting her ass handed to her throughout the majority of the fight. On the other hand, due to the power of plot armor and nakama she ended up defeating Kagura in one hit despite it not making any sense whatsoever. Does this battle show Erza's strength or her weakness? How can you use this battle as evidence for anything when other parts of the battle can be used as evidence for the exact opposite?
Just don't get yourself stuck in circular logic and you should be fine. You could use Kaguras feats of destroying Erzas different armours and you could use erzas feat of defeating Kagura with Benizakura as long as the argument is not that "Erza is this powerful because she did this to a character that did this to her."
Erza did not win against Kagura, that's the thing. Didn't Kagura get back up? She was knocked out by Minerva, not Erza. What Titania did was overpower Kagura, when Benizakura was always said to be Erza's best offense. Why do you consider it bullshit? This is actually a feat, yes. Just like her being stripped of her five senses and getting back up, although that fight was indeed bullshit. But like I said, labeling a feat as stupid is irrelevant, because it won't make it any less canonical.
Is Gildarts above Laxus via portrayal? Yes. Is he a whole tier below Gildarts? Hell fucking no. Gildarts has always been called the strongest mage, but nothing implies there has been a huge gap between the two at all. Heck on Tenrou Island nothing itself implies there was a big gap, Gildarts struggled against Bluenote while Laxus himself was able to give Hades a decent fight while he was the only good guy who wasn't and given a power boost by the Tenrou Tree (yeah in case you forgot anyone with the guild mark gets a boost in power and can't die while on the Island). So no Gildarts hasn't always been a solid tier above Laxus, heck in the GMG games Laxus literally beat someone who said to be as strong as Gildarts. Lord this Gildarts wank is getting out of control.
Lucy and Natsu vs Jacob wasn't BS at all. It was shown 200-300 earlier Horologium being able to protect Lucy from spacial magic as strong as Anima.
no its not. did you forget his "Virgin Eyes" and his Transport getting stopped by Happy????? that fight was purely a gag one. nothing came good out of it.Lucy and Natsu vs Jacob wasn't BS at all. It was shown 200-300 earlier Horologium being able to protect Lucy from spacial magic as strong as Anima.
Lucy since then has became a hella of alot stronger and Anima warped the whole town while Jacob only warped the guild. So that was fine.
Natsu aura was melting the GMG arena so him melting Jacob's knife was fine. So the fight itself was fine.
Whal vs Laxus was crap I will agree. Lightning that surpasses lightning.
The only good fight this arc was Natsu/Lucy vs Jacob and by good I mean logical. Erza vs Azir wasn't as this was someone who was easily able to evaporate Gray's Ice magic and Erza swords but had a hard time against a water sword that should have evaporated the minute it touched him. It would have been much better if she used Nakagami the whole fight to deal damage.
No perspective in the second one makes the Island look smaller. Why are we even talking about that when ACNOLOGIA WAS LITERALLY ON THE ISLAND. Acnologia doesn't even take up one section of the Island. Heck look at him in comparison to some debris:
Kagura was only able to get back up because Erza pushed her out of the way of the falling debris. She couldn't even move out of the way by herself, which means that she was basically as good as defeated.
No, an arial perspective or a distance perspective (one which makes the island look like an ant) is what makes the island look smaller then what it really is. The perspective we got is perfect because its at just the right distance and ground level to encompass the island with all the space of the panel, if anything it would make it look bigger then it really is.
LMAO, no, that fight was far from 'good', the only reason I even give it a pass is because defeating Lessio was a team effort and not a 'one shot' like most Natsu fans want to delude themselves into believing..plus Gemini Star Dress is my favorite..
Erza used Benizakura to block Kagura's unsheathed sword, the part that didn't make sense to me is why when Kagura swung her sword there was blood, like what was up with that?
The only thing that didn't make sense to me was the ending with Red Lightning, the rest of the fight was okay in my book, I just wish we would get an explanation of what Red Lightning is or have Laxus use it again so as to get a clear cut explanation of it
Natsu shitstomping Sting and Rogue is a hell of a lot more reasonable because it was established that Natsu and Gajeel were only getting dominated by Sting because they were just trying to get a feel for how he fights. Once Natsu got that down and he knew all of their attacking positions and their fighting tempo and whatnot he handily destroyed them.
the only explanation is that Laxus changed the properties of his lightning. Mercury Fulminate is some sort of an explosive ingredient which made his lightning "explosive" which bypasses Wahl's immunity.
Yes, look at it this way, Natsu one shotted Dobengal, one of the top 10 in Sabertooth, that means he was stronger than some of their top 5 mages (like Sting, Rogue and maybe Yukino), plus Sting and Rogue had their DF's murked by the Dragons inside them, so they weren't at full power, Natsu was basically fighting two half powered mages..
Hm, Natsu vs DF Sting and Rogue.... I don't remember that, did you read some fanfic?
that's funny because he didn't feel Laxus' tempo, Gajeel's tempo, Zero's tempo, Future Rogue's tempo and etc. nope, that explanation sucks. Erza being stronger than Kagura and Minerva(via SO) is the same shit as that imo.
Lol that's still pretty dumb though
Those situations aren't even close to being the same: