Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Woodenstool]

Natsu has one shotted multiple Spriggans, why is it so hard to accept that he is above Spriggan level.

He is not spriggan level when Brandish was capable ending his life with a snap of her fingers.

 

[Solitrine]

He is not spriggan level when Brandish was capable ending his life with a snap of her fingers.

I guess no other Spriggans who got one shot by Natsu are Spriggan level either then.

 

[The President]

Kinda laughable that even to this date people still try and deny that Natsu is Spriggan level. Also, Augusts heat pillar is most definitely wider then the mountain that Gildarts cracked.

 

[Woodenstool]

Kinda laughable that even to this date people still try and deny that Natsu is Spriggan level. Also, Augusts heat pillar is most definitely wider then the mountain that Gildarts cracked.

That mountain dwarfed thousands of trees which if you put in a linear line in August attack, it wouldn't even use more than 20.

Those rock structures are the same height are the trees on the mountain.

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I guess no other Spriggans who got one shot by Natsu are Spriggan level either then.

Ajeel dries up Natsu in sandworld.
Brandish crushes him from the inside.
Bradman has untouchable
Dimaria timestop
August pure firepower
Irene enchantment
Invel freezes and kills him
Jacob transport
Neinhart summons Mard Geer
Walh was on par with Laxus strength.

 

[King of kings]

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This power would overkill all the 12 spriggans and dragons from GMG because they are mortals , look well in Zeref's words. if you guys still don't understand i show you proofs.

 

[Woodenstool]

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This power would overkill all the 12 spriggans and dragons from GMG because they are mortals , look well in Zeref's words. if you guys still don't understand i show you proofs.

Igneels power is x999999 of current Natsu.

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Gildarts' falling down tore apart an entire village, his casual punches with no magic blew a hole in the side of a mountain, his angry punches can make a mountain crumble down, his Mikazuchi Technique can produce enough force that it creates a giant cavity in the water that is held in position for a while, his Empyrean can send someone miles into the air in less than 2 seconds, that which the force went miles up in a nano second.

The spriggan 13 are nothing.

 

[Yunkers]

You certainly are bias. That mountain dwarfed thousands of trees which if you put in a linear line in August attack, it wouldn't even use more than 20.

Those rock structures are the same height are the trees on the mountain.

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Ajeel dries up Natsu in sandworld.
Brandish crushes him from the inside.
Bradman has untouchable
Dimaria timestop
August pure firepower
Irene enchantment
Invel freezes and kills him
Jacob transport
Neinhart summons Mard Geer
Walh was on par with Laxus strength.

Natsu could burn Sandworld.
Natsu could walk in Time Age somehow (Natsu change to END AFTER DiMaria's defeat)
Natsu thraw out Invel's ice.
Natsu have already defeat Jacob by throwing... Happy
Natsu have already defeat enchantment Neinhart (+ even he summons Mard, his Mard is weaker than real one)
Wahl is weaker than Laxus. We have to remember that Laxus is weakened by tumor and Wall is immune to most of his magic (Red Lighning is probably something similair to Totmaru's colorful fire)

So yes, Natsu is already stronger than some Spriggans

 

[Coné]

Natsu one-shotted three Spriggan 12 thus far. It's clear as water that he 's above their level.

 

[SirSamuel016]

Ajeel dries up Natsu in sandworld.
Brandish crushes him from the inside.
Bradman has untouchable
Dimaria timestop
August pure firepower
Irene enchantment
Invel freezes and kills him
Jacob transport
Neinhart summons Mard Geer
Walh was on par with Laxus strength.

Okay, so you're comparing Natsu to Spriggans in a battle sense to try and say he isn't Spriggan level power-wise? Well that isn't really doing much, most of those points are moot as they don't actually take much into account in a battle, plus when Natsu has defeated three Spriggans fairly easily it is very hard to deny he is "Spriggan level". But, I will address your points anyway:

- Natsu can literally evaporate sand with his heat as he did with Ajeel's ant-lion pit in Alvarez, so I doubt Sand World would trouble him too much, plus it isn't Sand World but Ajeel either using his Sands of Death (the tidal wave) or making contact with someone that will cause their body to lose moisture.
- Yes, Brandish could use her magic to expand Natsu's organs to the size where they burst and he'd die from that, I won't deny that. Whether she actually would is another story however, as she's said she wouldn't attack him, Lucy or Happy.
- Yes, Bloodman has intangibility and that works well against physical elements like Gajeel's iron. However, we've seen Rogue be able to hit Bloodman with his shadow magic, and like Rogue's shadow magic, Natsu's fire isn't purely physical, it's got another part to it apart from the the physicality of say a punch, so that should be able to effect Bradman if you catch my drift.
- Natsu(/E.N.D) moved through Dimaria's Age Seal, so that point is literally moot. He also took her out fairly easily from the look of it so I don't see what you're trying to prove here.
- So far we've seen Natsu be able to negate August's heat based magic which when you think about how he knows so much about magic and how strong he is, is a pretty decent feat. Yes, August would know a lot more magic and would probably beat Natsu in a one on one fight.
- Irene can enchant Natsu if she felt the need for it. But, if she was legitimately fighting him, so far we've seen her use a fireball against Acnologia which Natsu should be able to eat and get a boost in power from that. Again, August and Irene are the two Spriggans that would probably beat Natsu in a fight.
- Natsu can thaw Invel's ice as we've seen in the manga. I don't need to say any more on this.
- Yes, Jacob can transport Natsu away, but it isn't clear how that actually kills people. If he still has to do something afterwards with it, then I wouldn't be surprised if Natsu could still defend himself at the very least in Jacob's pocket dimension. Plus, if Natsu can land a hit on Jacob before he casts transport, it could well be over there.
- Neinhart summons Mard Geer who Natsu came very close to defeating when he used Dragon Force in Tartarus. Okay, Natsu has had almost a full year to get far stronger, how is Mard Geer going to keep up for long against that, especially if Natsu used FDKM or Dragon Force? It'd be over easily, plus Natsu has already shown he can defeat Neinhart with mere punches in base. Neinhart is no trouble here at all.
- Wall only did as well as he he did against Laxus due to him having an immunity to lighting and the fact that Laxus was affected by Magic Barrier Particles. Without the immunity, it could've been over a lot quicker, and seeing Natsu's attack power in FDKM is likely higher than Laxus', Wahl would be going down fairly easily.

Most of your points there don't hold much weight, and there's nothing to say most of those Spriggans would be up for long if Natsu attacked them when serious. When serious, he's taken out three Spriggans (Jacob, Neinhart (who was enchanted) and Dimaria) with ease, so there really is no denying that Natsu is on Spriggan level when it comes to attack power. He has some of the best attack power in terms of protagonists, and his speed and durability is also right up there. You can try and present situations where Spriggans could possibly beat Natsu, but that doesn't change the fact that he is on their level.

 

[Brandish μ]

Lightning + Sand = glass and he's made of sand.... Off topic..

That explosion came from her new form, similar to a super sayian thing. Ajeel was made of sand and water was his weakness somehow idk. Erza just has counters.

Well it only matters if lightning magic can effect sand magic in a similar way to a IRL phenomena.

I think the nuke was an attack.

Water is a weakness to sand magic, but not Ajeel's actual body. His body was hit by the water swords because of that, and Jupiter was able to hit too.

 

[**Silver**]

Spriggan 12 ranking

top tier High tier
1.Irene
2.August
3.God Serena/Larcade (Larcade has high hype level)
Medium Tier
4.God Serena/Larcade(God Serena has some monster feats overpowering Team-Natsu and defeated Goi+Jura with no injuries)
5. Dimaria (with time-stop)
6. Invel
7. Wahl
Low tier
8. Bradman
9. Ajeel
10. Neinhart (enchanted Neinhart is medium tier)
11. Jacob
12, Brandish (she dont have any feats against Spriggan tier characters)

 

[Plutogrim]

Rank these characters in terms of magic power:

Irene
Dimaria
Gildarts
Laxus
Jellal
Erza
Makarov
Mirajane
Gray
Ultear
Hades
Kagura

 

[Brandish μ]

Rank these characters in terms of magic power:

Irene
Dimaria
Gildarts
Laxus
Jellal
Erza
Makarov
Mirajane
Gray
Ultear
Hades
Kagura

Irene
DiMaria
Gildarts/Jellal/Laxus/Gray(darkness)
Hades
Makarov
Erza/Mirajane/Kagura
Ultear

Where there are more people on a line I cannot tell. For instance Gildarts might not have more MP than Jellal. And Gray's MP with darkness seemed to shock Invel, so Idk he could be higher.

I also assume the 12 have more MP than people like Laxus.

 

[Hermit]

Rank these characters in terms of magic power:

Irene
Dimaria
Gildarts
Laxus
Jellal
Erza
Makarov
Mirajane
Gray
Ultear
Hades
Kagura

Irene
Dimaria
Gildarts
Jellal
Laxus
Hades with heart
Hades without heart
Gray
Mirajane
Erza
Makarov
Ultear
Kagura

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Spriggan 12 ranking

top tier High tier
1.Irene
2.August
3.God Serena/Larcade (Larcade has high hype level)
Medium Tier
4.God Serena/Larcade(God Serena has some monster feats overpowering Team-Natsu and defeated Goi+Jura with no injuries)
5. Dimaria (with time-stop)
6. Invel
7. Wahl
Low tier
8. Bradman
9. Ajeel
10. Neinhart (enchanted Neinhart is medium tier)
11. Jacob
12, Brandish (she dont have any feats against Spriggan tier characters)

It doesn't make sense! Brandish's magic can be used in Spriggan levels, like Neinhart that only could scape her mass manipulation because he was enchanted by Irene.
She can make your oponent die for inside, Dimaria said that. She can make herself bigger. She can do a lot of things.
She is better no hand-to-hand than Jacob that was send flying by Lucy's Taurus form while Brandish have defeat it. How, in the world, is she the weakest of them?

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I think Brandish's magic can deal with God Serena.
She can shrink his elements or change the masses.
She can shrink him.

 

[**Silver**]

It doesn't make sense! Brandish's magic can be used in Spriggan levels, like Neinhart that only could scape her mass manipulation because he was enchanted by Irene.
She can make your oponent die for inside, Dimaria said that. She can make herself bigger. She can do a lot of things.
She is better no hand-to-hand than Jacob that was send flying by Lucy's Taurus form while Brandish have defeat it. How, in the world, is she the weakest of them?

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I think Brandish's magic can deal with God Serena.
She can shrink his elements or change the masses.
She can shrink him.

yes Brandish is probabably stronger than some spriggans but she doesent have feats against spriggans level opponents..

and no Brandish is not defeating God Serena because obvious reasons...

1.Enhanted Neinhart was able to overpower Brandish while Natsu one-shotted Neinhart
2.Historia Serena was wrecking team-Natsu.. while Natsu one-shotted Neinhart
3. Enchanted Neinhart----->Brandish
4. Historia Serena-----> enchanted Neinhart
5. Historia Serena overpowered Team Natsu
6. so how Brandish is defeating God Serena who was able to take GOI+Jura attacks with no effort while Brandish was damaged by Lucy attacks??
7. Goi+Jura-----> Lucy

 

[Axiomus]

Given that Dimaria can stop time for Brandish and Brandish was surprised that her magic couldn't work on Neinhart, I'm assuming that Spriggan's powers work against each other unless there is a significant power-level difference.

 

[The President]

1.Irene
2.August
3.God Serena/Larcade (Larcade has high hype level)

Serena really shouldn't be grouped together with the likes of August and Irene.

Also, Serena never overpowered team Natsu. He temporarily pushed them back at best, but he did absolutely no damage, and Juvia was there. Enchanted Neinhart has more MP then the average spriggan, but his durability is still shit.

I do agree that Brandish isn't all that impressive though, I'd put her above Jacob but thats about it. She can probably shrink any spriggan (bar August, Irene and Larcade) but that didn't really help her against Lucy so I doubt it would help her against a spriggan.

 

[Asorx]

I do agree that Brandish isn't all that impressive though, I'd put her above Jacob but thats about it. She can probably shrink any spriggan (bar August, Irene and Larcade) but that didn't really help her against Lucy so I doubt it would help her against a spriggan.

I do not agree with this. Brandish can shrink weepons, organs, body parts and all elements. That was impresive. For me she is in top 5. August>Irene>Larcade>Dimaria>Brandish. That hax is just too op.

 

[The President]

I do not agree with this. Brandish can shrink weepons, organs, body parts and all elements. That was impresive. For me she is in top 5. August>Irene>Larcade>Dimaria>Brandish. That hax is just too op.

Na, I do not believe she can shrink the organs of someone unless she has had worked on the person prior, same goes for body parts (though she could shrink the entire body of someone at her level or below). When she healed the tumour she needed to know the exact location of the tumour, meaning that its not as simple as shrinking whatever part she wants to shrink, she needs to know its exact location (and every has a different body structure, even if only slightly, so she wouldn't know the exact location).

She could have subdued DiMaria before the latter used Age Seal (since DiMaria was on a rant and Brandish knew what she was going to do) if that was nt the case. And DiMaria did say that she could have crushed Lucy, instead of just jointing Lucys name into the same sentence as Natsus when she said blow up his organs (and add a their instead of his). Point is, I'm not going to believe that Brandish could do such a complicated thing until she does it.