Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Firepower]

Having low MP affects you overall power, Happy makes this perfectly clear in the Gajeel fight and that's why when Natsu' gets to eats flames he immediately overpowers Gajeel. Natsu FOUGHT THE FLAME GUY AND DESTROYED JUPITER BEFORE FIGHTING ARIA. He wasn't at 100% once again you're not comprehending my posts. Erza had no reason to lie to Jose when speaking about Natsu, you think Erza would know her own strength more than you.


Look this is about the 5th posts about the BoS Erza being weak and you still don't get it. Just concede, before you reply go back and look at all the other posts I made and read them slowly and carefully.

Fact Jose said Gajeel was his strongest mage and was correct look at context. Fact Max could be Natsu based on what he saw about him, Max only lost because Natsu had LFD Mode, something he didn't know about. Fact Makarov was wanking Jura based on his title and didn't know how strong Laxus had become after his training. Fact some statements about mages being stronger may be true, CONTEXT IS KEY. FALSE! Erza saying Natsu was as strong as her wasn't sisterly love, look at the context and why didn't she same the same about Gray? Her relationship with Natsu at the time was pretty much the same as Gray's. Gajeel was steam rolling Natsu at the start of their fight and it only became more even when Gajeel starting getting lower on MP so he resorted to eating metal. Again Natsu was a bad matchup while Erza's swords literally gave her the ability to cut through Aria's airspace while Natsu couldn't do that. You say I don't give up yet on our last and only discussion you were the wrong one and you didn't give up despite not even reading my posts correctly, just like here.

I'm not understanding your post? "The flame guy" is totomaru, who was capable of controlling fire. I already said that. Which one of us aren't reading posts? I said Erza took more damage from the Jupitor shot, weakening her more than whatever "the flame guy" Totomaru did to Natsu. The mp Natsu used was nothing. It was one shot. You trying to say Totomaru took that much out of him? He was a joke just like your posts. Taking a Jupitor shot will weaken you more than that weak Totomaru.

Both fought Aria after that. Aria didn't take his blindfold off, holding back his strength yet clowning Natsu. Erza saves his ass. Aria ankowledges Erza, since that matter so much to you, that he gets serious. Natsu a bystander can barely keep himself from getting thrown back from Aria releasing his full power. Erza took him out easy in one shot.

Concede to ice's excuses? This isn't the argument before that ended in a stalemate. Weren't you the one back then saying it doesn't matter if Ajeel said he wouldn't have died or been beaten by Laxus attack? You said look at his face. Words and reactions are different Is what you said. Facial expression was all you were going by. In this current argument results beat claims and facial expressions. You can argue nonstop if you like and even argue that Max is the strongest mage. Laughable when all your evidence to back up that Natsu was as strong as Erza, was because she said so. RESULTS proved otherwise. Anyone can argue as much as you and even argue something like Max being the strongest, then continue arguing about it. That isn't any different from what you're doing right now. All you got is "But Erza said this." That plus excuses.

It's been proven that Erza was far stronger than Natsu in the phantom arc. Words don't mean shit when actions do the talking and proved it. Wake up. She whooped a serious unrestrained fully powered Aria. Natsu couldn't do anything to Aria who made Natsu look like shit without using his full power, and still getting it done easily. She said Natsu was as strong as her which in that fight proved he was not. You come up with first excuse "it was a bad matchup." It was not a bad matchup. Natsu was simply outclassed by Aria, who was outclassed by Erza. Then your next excuse was "Totomaru, the flame guy, took a lot of mp from Natsu." Whose strength do you think was cut or lessened more, Jupitor cannon or Erza or Natsu dealing with a troll with little power? What you actually mean by "You're not reading or understanding my post" is "you don't see it the way I do." You got anything else better to do than bother me with nonsense? Wake up to the truth. Man up and admit which proof is more convincing. Or get lost. Sick of doing this everyday.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 9, 2016, Original Post Date: Apr 9, 2016 ---

Having low MP affects you overall power, Happy makes this perfectly clear in the Gajeel fight and that's why when Natsu' gets to eats flames he immediately overpowers Gajeel. Natsu FOUGHT THE FLAME GUY AND DESTROYED JUPITER BEFORE FIGHTING ARIA. He wasn't at 100% once again you're not comprehending my posts. Erza had no reason to lie to Jose when speaking about Natsu, you think Erza would know her own strength more than you.


Look this is about the 5th posts about the BoS Erza being weak and you still don't get it. Just concede, before you reply go back and look at all the other posts I made and read them slowly and carefully.

Fact Jose said Gajeel was his strongest mage and was correct look at context. Fact Max could be Natsu based on what he saw about him, Max only lost because Natsu had LFD Mode, something he didn't know about. Fact Makarov was wanking Jura based on his title and didn't know how strong Laxus had become after his training. Fact some statements about mages being stronger may be true, CONTEXT IS KEY. FALSE! Erza saying Natsu was as strong as her wasn't sisterly love, look at the context and why didn't she same the same about Gray? Her relationship with Natsu at the time was pretty much the same as Gray's. Gajeel was steam rolling Natsu at the start of their fight and it only became more even when Gajeel starting getting lower on MP so he resorted to eating metal. Again Natsu was a bad matchup while Erza's swords literally gave her the ability to cut through Aria's airspace while Natsu couldn't do that. You say I don't give up yet on our last and only discussion you were the wrong one and you didn't give up despite not even reading my posts correctly, just like here.

I could give a rats ass about cutting through airspace. She did not do it until she was close to Aria. Meanwhile Natsu was getting blown away. There was no bad matchup. If Natsu wasn't outclassed he'd have blown up Aria's airspace attacks, but he was outclassed the whole way. Quit making up excuses. It was after that Erza told Natsu he has an untapped power inside of him, and that he is the man that will surpass her. She did not say he was as strong as her. She did not say he already surpassed her either. This was said while she was down, still hurt from the cannon fire. She barely had anything left yet she mustered up enough strength to one shot the fool Natsu couldn't deal with. Where exactly did Erza say he was as strong as her? It won't make any difference if she did or not. Confirm that she said that. So Natsu having more mp against Aria, then less against Gajeel, how does that show Gajeel is stronger than Aria if he was in an even match with Natsu, considering Natsu had less mp by then. Keep the bullshit coming. This is hilarious.

 

[Crimson Ice]

I'm not understanding your post? "The flame guy" is totomaru, who was capable of controlling fire. I already said that. Which one of us aren't reading posts? I said Erza took more damage from the Jupitor shot, weakening her more than whatever "the flame guy" Totomaru did to Natsu. The mp Natsu used was nothing. It was one shot. You trying to say Totomaru took that much out of him? He was a joke just like your posts. Taking a Jupitor shot will weaken you more than that weak Totomaru.

Both fought Aria after that. Aria didn't take his blindfold off, holding back his strength yet clowning Natsu. Erza saves his ass. Aria ankowledges Erza, since that matter so much to you, that he gets serious. Natsu a bystander can barely keep himself from getting thrown back from Aria releasing his full power. Erza took him out easy in one shot.

Concede to ice's excuses? This isn't the argument before that ended in a stalemate. Weren't you the one back then saying it doesn't matter if Ajeel said he wouldn't have died or been beaten by Laxus attack? You said look at his face. Words and reactions are different Is what you said. Facial expression was all you were going by. In this current argument results beat claims and facial expressions. You can argue nonstop if you like and even argue that Max is the strongest mage. Laughable when all your evidence to back up that Natsu was as strong as Erza, was because she said so. RESULTS proved otherwise. Anyone can argue as much as you and even argue something like Max being the strongest, then continue arguing about it. That isn't any different from what you're doing right now. All you got is "But Erza said this." That plus excuses.

It's been proven that Erza was far stronger than Natsu in the phantom arc. Words don't mean shit when actions do the talking and proved it. Wake up. She whooped a serious unrestrained fully powered Aria. Natsu couldn't do anything to Aria who made Natsu look like shit without using his full power, and still getting it done easily. She said Natsu was as strong as her which in that fight proved he was not. You come up with first excuse "it was a bad matchup." It was not a bad matchup. Natsu was simply outclassed by Aria, who was outclassed by Erza. Then your next excuse was "Totomaru, the flame guy, took a lot of mp from Natsu." Whose strength do you think was cut or lessened more, Jupitor cannon or Erza or Natsu dealing with a troll with little power? What you actually mean by "You're not reading or understanding my post" is "you don't see it the way I do." You got anything else better to do than bother me with nonsense? Wake up to the truth. Man up and admit which proof is more convincing. Or get lost. Sick of doing this everyday.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 9, 2016, Original Post Date: Apr 9, 2016 ---

I could give a rats ass about cutting through airspace. She did not do it until she was close to Aria. Meanwhile Natsu was getting blown away. There was no bad matchup. If Natsu wasn't outclassed he'd have blown up Aria's airspace attacks, but he was outclassed the whole way. Quit making up excuses. It was after that Erza told Natsu he has an untapped power inside of him, and that he is the man that will surpass her. She did not say he was as strong as her. She did not say he already surpassed her either. This was said while she was down, still hurt from the cannon fire. She barely had anything left yet she mustered up enough strength to one shot the fool Natsu couldn't deal with. Where exactly did Erza say he was as strong as her? It won't make any difference if she did or not. Confirm that she said that. So Natsu having more mp against Aria, then less against Gajeel, how does that show Gajeel is stronger than Aria if he was in an even match with Natsu, considering Natsu had less mp by then. Keep the bullshit coming. This is hilarious.

The part you're understanding is the part about Erza, once again proving you're not reading my posts properly. Again Aria was a bad matchup with his wind magic while Erza had the ability to cut through his magic.

Excuses, just like the Ajeel vs Laxus discussion I find myself repeating the same point over and over again to no avail. Yes all of those were my posts but the whole discussion started because you started putting words into my mouth saying 'Ajeel would definitely die' and the second you actually took more than 5 seconds to read my posts you realised you was wrong and backed off. Look at you, you're literally dismissing a valid character statement in good context as a piece of evidence LMAO. Like I said Natsu was drained and Aria was a bad matchup with his wind magic, just like the starts of te Eirgor fight.


Through Erza's own words Natsu was as strong as her and by Jose's own mouth Gajeel is the strongest in his guild. Character statements do mean shit, you're simply dismissing because you don't agree with it. That was essentially the author saying they were on the same level through Erza. How many times do I have to say this Aria was a bad matchup, and Natsu beat the strongest element 4. You know the same element 4 Aria is a part of, Natsu beat his superior. Jupiter canon doesn't sap MP it deals physical arm Erza used her magic once against Jupiter and it was to summon her armor.

You could care less because I'm right? She done is as she was running to Aria, she was already near him at the start so that's irrelevant. Nope Erza flat out says he's on her level, perhaps even above that. I see nothing about his potential.

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/64/7


No Gajeel was wiping the floor with Natsu until he started to run low and even then he still dominated 90% of the fight until Natsu ate fire again. Gajeel was punking Natsu and Jose flat out says he's the strongest in his guild. Keep denying, maybe you got the scenes mixed up with anime filler again

 

[Firepower]

The part you're understanding is the part about Erza, once again proving you're not reading my posts properly. Again Aria was a bad matchup with his wind magic while Erza had the ability to cut through his magic.

Excuses, just like the Ajeel vs Laxus discussion I find myself repeating the same point over and over again to no avail. Yes all of those were my posts but the whole discussion started because you started putting words into my mouth saying 'Ajeel would definitely die' and the second you actually took more than 5 seconds to read my posts you realised you was wrong and backed off. Look at you, you're literally dismissing a valid character statement in good context as a piece of evidence LMAO. Like I said Natsu was drained and Aria was a bad matchup with his wind magic, just like the starts of te Eirgor fight.


Through Erza's own words Natsu was as strong as her and by Jose's own mouth Gajeel is the strongest in his guild. Character statements do mean shit, you're simply dismissing because you don't agree with it. That was essentially the author saying they were on the same level through Erza. How many times do I have to say this Aria was a bad matchup, and Natsu beat the strongest element 4. You know the same element 4 Aria is a part of, Natsu beat his superior. Jupiter canon doesn't sap MP it deals physical arm Erza used her magic once against Jupiter and it was to summon her armor.

You could care less because I'm right? She done is as she was running to Aria, she was already near him at the start so that's irrelevant. Nope Erza flat out says he's on her level, perhaps even above that. I see nothing about his potential.

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/64/7


No Gajeel was wiping the floor with Natsu until he started to run low and even then he still dominated 90% of the fight until Natsu ate fire again. Gajeel was punking Natsu and Jose flat out says he's the strongest in his guild. Keep denying, maybe you got the scenes mixed up with anime filler again

Bad matchup? Erigor was the top guy in his guild and had wind strong enough to blow his fire away. When Natsu pushed hard he was able to deal with it. Did he easily beat Erigor in another arc? Erigor's magic and Aria's magic don't do the same thing. Aria did not stop Natsu's Fire. He stopped Natsu from punching him. Think it was Nirvana seis arc when Natsu beat up Erigor easily in a second match. It's not the power of wind or fire. It's the power of the mage using it that determines the strength. Ice will over power fire. Fire will over power ice. Water stops fire. Fire also makes water evaporate. It depends on which Mage is stronger. Erza cut throughAria's attack. Aria did not use that spell he used on Erza, nor did he use much strength against Natsu. So how does that prove anything about a bad matchup? NOTHING!

The Ajeel Laxus debate was me accusing you of stating it as fact, not probability. Ajeel said it wouldn't have killed him. That couldn't be determined so there was no end. Erza said Natsu is as strong as her or stronger, fight proved otherwise. Natsu did not have problems launching his fire. Aria jumped over it and went to Natsu. Excuses, excuses and more excuses. At least now you are giving detail why you believe it was a mismatch. Air space zetsu was all Aria used to smash Natsu. Against Erza he went full power and used airspace of death, zero. That attack wasn't just a better spell at full power, it kills, not injures. Even without using any of it he still beat the shit out of Natsu. In this argument it's you accusing me of not reading. Only now you give detail info why you believe it was a bad matchup. Which still makes no sense. I completely admit I got my source from anime until the beginning of Tartaros arc. So correct me when the anime and manga aren't the same.

Character statements don't mean anything. Erza had to fight Aria to know that he wasn't that strong. Erigor wanted to fight Erza from the start. Erza told Natsu that he has untapped potential and will be the man that surpasses her. Then against Jose she says he is as strong as her or even more.

Go check again. Natsu had his times against Gajeel. Gajeel had his too. Both roared and Gajeel got the better but not one sided. So sad when the only guy that can give me a good debate is delusional. Gajeel losing mp? Don't you think Natsu while fighting Gajeel lost mp too during the match? You haven't proven anything. "He said she said" Proof is in the fights. Not in words. Therefore your proof is lesser

 

[Ultimateasus]

I believe it was clearly said that wind is strong against fire in Fairy tail world.

http://a.mhcdn.net/store/manga/246/03-018.0/compressed/fairy_018_20.jpg?v=1197430847

Maybe it is mentioned somewhere else too but this is the best I found.

 

[Firepower]

I believe it was clearly said that wind is strong against fire in Fairy tail world.

http://a.mhcdn.net/store/manga/246/03-018.0/compressed/fairy_018_20.jpg?v=1197430847

Maybe it is mentioned somewhere else too but this is the best I found.

Yeah very true Erigor said that, but Natsu powered up creating an upward draft to send the wind away, then beating Erigor. So going by that it is wind that is weak against fire if it can be redirected with fire. Although, Aria's magic does not work the same way as Erigor's does. Natsu did shoot his fire at Erigor which shocked Erigor, which made him create a magic shield to block Natsu's attack. Natsu said his shot will blow Erigor away, but could not until using his fire to redirect the wind So it was nothing more than bragging on Erigor's part if you ask me.

In fairy tail wiki, it claims that Natsu fought Erigor again in the Oracion seis arc only in the anime, but is canon material. In that fight Natsu said the same thing that his attack will have Erigor blown away. This time Erigor said that he was training to get revenge on Natsu, used one wind magic attack that had no effect on Natsu, then Natsu beat his ass.

Also if wind is really effective against fire then wouldn't that mean Ajeel's sand storm would weaken Natsu's Fire? Sandstorms do require wind which we can see was very strong in the entire city. Plus sand does not burn so fire has no effect on that either. But it's as Natsu said his attacks will just blow them away. So I doubt wind is that good when Natsu after getting stronger had no issues with Erigor in their rematch or should I say beat down. I do see Natsu's attack not just hotter and stronger, but more explosive, which is probably why he said against Erigor that he will be blown away from his fire attacks.

Not trying to be sarcastic. I mean this honestly when I say "Thanks." You know how to debate instead of obnoxiously talking like everything you say is right like what Crimson ice has become. He got full of himself and it is no longer a debate with him. It's his way or no way. No debates. Either you agree with him or have him accuse you of not reading or trying to understand his way, even though it's him doing that. He's become nothing more than a wannabe know it all. That's why this argument hasn't been finished. His pants must be too tight I guess. XP lol

 

[Kiki]

Am interested in Jellal in ranking. Can anyone convince me why is he put on top of a ranking? Because after I saw about him:
1. Natsu in DF soloed him.
2. Can't overcome and analyze Midnight's magic. He was not sharp.
3. Defeated by Zero.
4. Had a tough battle against Jura.
5. Had a hard time against Oracion Seis while he had seven years to train and they was imprisoned for 7 years.

I even thought Erza is stronger than him. Even though he in thought projection was considered a Wizard Saint, well, can't the real Jellal exchange his position with Siegrain? It's difficult to realize twin. They had identic face.

 

[THE ALMIGHTY CRYBABY]

Am interested in Jellal in ranking. Can anyone convince me why is he put on top of a ranking? Because after I saw about him:
1. Natsu in DF soloed him.
2. Can't overcome and analyze Midnight's magic. He was not sharp.
3. Defeated by Zero.
4. Had a tough battle against Jura.
5. Had a hard time against Oracion Seis while he had seven years to train and they was imprisoned for 7 years.

I even thought Erza is stronger than him. Even though he in thought projection was considered a Wizard Saint, well, can't the real Jellal exchange his position with Siegrain? It's difficult to realize twin. They had identic face.

He became as Siegrain (only half of his powers) one of the Wizardsaints!

1) DF is the biggest power up we have seen in fairy tail until now! Besides Jellal suffered from a severe injury after his fight against Erza ( only half of his power) which forced him to cancel his breaking abyss spell and created an opening for Natsu. We do not know if Natsu could have stopped this spell if it was casted successfully ( probably yes but he would have taken huge damage).
2) He suffered from Amnesia in OS-Arc so he couldn't use his full power in those fights ( he only rememberd 2 things: Erza and the location of Nirvana)
3) You mean the fight in Tartaros-Arc. This was just an illusion, they never fought in reality and Jellal overcame the illusion!
4) He didn't go full out ( he used magical items like Mystogan) and when he intended to fight seriously he was stopped by Ultear and Meredy.
5) Erza was not able to defeat Cobra in Key of the Starry Star-Arc! She only managed to take him down because Cobra was distracted by Kinana and Erza exploited his opening! The OS-members became stronger too in this arc.
I doubt that Tartaros Erza would have managed to beat all the OS-members on her own ( but in a 1vs1 she could have taken down each one of them I guess)

But I sadly have to agree with you, Jellal's performance wasn't so good in fairytail so far! But I still think he is damn strong. Perhaps he will shine from now against Ninehart. We will see it next week .

 

[Firepower]

Am interested in Jellal in ranking. Can anyone convince me why is he put on top of a ranking? Because after I saw about him:
1. Natsu in DF soloed him.
2. Can't overcome and analyze Midnight's magic. He was not sharp.
3. Defeated by Zero.
4. Had a tough battle against Jura.
5. Had a hard time against Oracion Seis while he had seven years to train and they was imprisoned for 7 years.

I even thought Erza is stronger than him. Even though he in thought projection was considered a Wizard Saint, well, can't the real Jellal exchange his position with Siegrain? It's difficult to realize twin. They had identic face.

Right now your guess is as good as anyones. He fought df Natsu and the seis. Ran out of tricks against Jura that he resorted to his strongest spell, sema. He's got tons of spells even giving the golden flame of rebuke to Natsu which resulted in df. But that's about all we know. He's got meteor speed.

If I had to guess Jellal would be below Laxus and somewhere around Erza's level. He's starting to look fragile. Probably why he didn't make it into a punching contest against Jura like Laxus did. Jellal greatly depends on his magic due to having less physical strength, speed and duribility/toughness. Yet more than makes up for it. Who knows maybe this arc he might show off some new stuff and with greater power.

 

[Brandish μ]

Before the timeskip I have Jellal, Laxus and Jura all around the same. I'd say Laxus/Jura have better physicals (strength, durability, endurance). Jellal's magic gives him the highest speed. Sema is also the most powerful offensive spell (Sema) and ranged offence, Jura has the best defence, Laxus has the best close quarter offence and Fairy Law. In a fight none of them would win against each other with less than high difficulty.

As of Tartarus arc I'd say Jellal >= Laxus > Jura, with a very small gap between them. Gildarts would beat them all.

 

[Arjuna]

Am interested in Jellal in ranking. Can anyone convince me why is he put on top of a ranking? Because after I saw about him:
1. Natsu in DF soloed him.
2. Can't overcome and analyze Midnight's magic. He was not sharp.
3. Defeated by Zero.
4. Had a tough battle against Jura.
5. Had a hard time against Oracion Seis while he had seven years to train and they was imprisoned for 7 years.

I even thought Erza is stronger than him. Even though he in thought projection was considered a Wizard Saint, well, can't the real Jellal exchange his position with Siegrain? It's difficult to realize twin. They had identic face.

Jellal lost to Zero because he had casted a self-destructing spell on himself which weakened him.

 

[Loke]

Laxus > Jura >= Jellal. Gildarts isn't beating anyone until he shows something. Wasn't Jura stated to have a rivaled him anyway?

 

[Kiki]

Thanks for all responses!

You mean the fight in Tartaros-Arc. This was just an illusion, they never fought in reality and Jellal overcame the illusion!

I mean the fight in Nirvana arc. Yea maybe because he had used a self-destructive spell just like natsulucy said and had fought against Midnight so he was as if got one-shotted by Zero.

Perhaps he will shine from now against Ninehart. We will see it next week .

Who knows maybe this arc he might show off some new stuff and with greater power.

Hope so. He is so underwhelming to me. Really. Hopefully he will make a great feat in this arc.

 

[BluePegasus]

Jellal > Laxus > Jura

Even though I'd rank the three of them at the same tier, which is probably close to top tier, I'd say Jellal is stronger than Laxus and Jura.

First of all, Jellal's spells have the highest AoE than any other spell from Laxus or Jura. Sema is without a doubt one of the strongest spells we've seen in the Fairy Tail universe so far. It's a lot more powerful than Jura's strongest spells which are Rock Mountain and Mt. Fuji and any spell Laxus showed us so far. Jellal's magic is stronger than Jura's or Laxus' his magic. If someone disagrees with this, than show me any spell from Laxus/Jura which are stronger than Sema or Grand Chariot.

Secondly, Jellal has more feats than Laxus and Jura.

Jellal: Speed, offence, MP > Laxus and Jura

Laxus: Stamina, strength > Jellal and Jura

Jura: Defence > Jellal and Laxus

Jellal and Laxus are close to equal imo, but I'd place him above Laxus thanks to his magic.

We just have to wait for Jellal to join a fight, I'm pretty sure he'll impress all of us.

 

[Damon blevins]

Yea Jellals just dropped a tier IMO. Laxus and Natsu would have brushed off that explosion.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 11, 2016, Original Post Date: Apr 11, 2016 ---

Jellal > Laxus > Jura

Even though I'd rank the three of them at the same tier, which is probably close to top tier, I'd say Jellal is stronger than Laxus and Jura.

First of all, Jellal's spells have the highest AoE than any other spell from Laxus or Jura. Sema is without a doubt one of the strongest spells we've seen in the Fairy Tail universe so far. It's a lot more powerful than Jura's strongest spells which are Rock Mountain and Mt. Fuji and any spell Laxus showed us so far. Jellal's magic is stronger than Jura's or Laxus' his magic. If someone disagrees with this, than show me any spell from Laxus/Jura which are stronger than Sema or Grand Chariot.

Secondly, Jellal has more feats than Laxus and Jura.

Jellal: Speed, offence, MP > Laxus and Jura

Laxus: Stamina, strength > Jellal and Jura

Jura: Defence > Jellal and Laxus

Jellal and Laxus are close to equal imo, but I'd place him above Laxus thanks to his magic.

We just have to wait for Jellal to join a fight, I'm pretty sure he'll impress all of us.

Fairy law!!!???

 

[BluePegasus]

Yea Jellals just dropped a tier IMO. Laxus and Natsu would have brushed off that explosion.

You think he dropped a tier just because he was 'hit' by an explosion? Seriously. Do you think he is a god? Laxus and Natsu would've been hit by the same explosion if they wanted to save someone.

 

[Loke]

Sema's victims were fodder. Laxus' secret art fell a WS aka an actual peer. Roaring Thunder > Sema. AOE isn't everything. Pretty sure Minerva fled
battle with Kagura and Erza for the very fact that that wasn't enough.

 

[Stormsfury]

Jellal > Laxus > Jura

Even though I'd rank the three of them at the same tier, which is probably close to top tier, I'd say Jellal is stronger than Laxus and Jura.

First of all, Jellal's spells have the highest AoE than any other spell from Laxus or Jura. Sema is without a doubt one of the strongest spells we've seen in the Fairy Tail universe so far. It's a lot more powerful than Jura's strongest spells which are Rock Mountain and Mt. Fuji and any spell Laxus showed us so far. Jellal's magic is stronger than Jura's or Laxus' his magic. If someone disagrees with this, than show me any spell from Laxus/Jura which are stronger than Sema or Grand Chariot.

Secondly, Jellal has more feats than Laxus and Jura.

Jellal: Speed, offence, MP > Laxus and Jura

Laxus: Stamina, strength > Jellal and Jura

Jura: Defence > Jellal and Laxus

Jellal and Laxus are close to equal imo, but I'd place him above Laxus thanks to his magic.

We just have to wait for Jellal to join a fight, I'm pretty sure he'll impress all of us.

Sting had some nice AoE on his Holy Breath, it was still a weak attack that Natsu and Gajeel easily brushed off. Laxus uses lightning which usually means concentrated attacks that don't have much AoE, like Roaring Thunder and Jaw of the Lightning Dragon.
Speed: Laxus > Jellal > Jura
Offence: Laxus > Jellal > Jura
MP: Jellal >> Laxus > Jura
Durability: Laxus >>> Jura > Jellal
Stamina: Laxus >>> Jura > Jellal
Strength: Laxus > Jura > Jellal
Ranged attacks: Jellal = Jura = Laxus
CQC: Laxus > Jura >> Jellal
Intelligence: Jellal > Laxus > Jura
Versatility: Jellal >>> Laxus > Jura
I've always rated the two as equals, but Jellal needs to show feats more impressive then what Laxus just did in the South, if he is to be rated higher, he has shown nothing of the sort so far, so I can't give it to him.
Laxus >>> Jellal > Jura atm.

 

[Axiomus]

Laxus > Jellal until Jellal shows better feats. I won't pretend to know stuff like magical power, because the evidence for that is super dodgy. I'm just going to evaluate things based on the 3 most important factors: Power, Durability, and Speed.

Power: When it comes to AoE the nuke Laxus used against Ajeel rivals Sema, and it was a casual attack. When it comes to damage dealt, Laxus took out Wahl whom had greater durability than any of Oracion Seis. Laxus' casual punches are also tearing streets apart. Overall, I have to give the advantage to Laxus. I can see Laxus matching Jellal's nukes, and overpowering him in hand to hand.
Durability: Laxus has the best durability feats from the good guys right now. Advantage goes to Laxus.
Speed: This is a tricky one. When Laxus turns himself into lightning, he's as fast as lightning. However, he can't launch any attacks with it. When Laxus coats himself in lightning and tries to fly with it, he's significantly slower. Jellal's meteor is probably one of the fastest magics that still allows the person to retain their ability to fight. I'd give the advantage to Jellal because we've never seen Laxus rely heavily on speed, whereas Jellal does rely heavily on speed.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

I honestly don't see the point of comparing Jellal and Laxus as of last chapter. We've barely seen anything from Jellal yet and he was taken out due to plot reasons. Not only was Neinhart's attack substantially strong, Jellal didn't have the time to prepare and defend against such an attack. Instead, he did what any man would do and protected Kagura. Using the excuse that Jellal was easily damaged by Neinhart is invalid because Erza also protected the guild in the Phantom Lord Arc when she blocked the Jupiter Cannon. Does that mean she was weaker than Natsu and Gray at the time? No. The best thing to do is to wait so that we can judge fairly.

 

[BluePegasus]

Sting had some nice AoE on his Holy Breath, it was still a weak attack that Natsu and Gajeel easily brushed off. Laxus uses lightning which usually means concentrated attacks that don't have much AoE, like Roaring Thunder and Jaw of the Lightning Dragon.
Speed: Laxus > Jellal > Jura
Offence: Laxus > Jellal > Jura
MP: Jellal >> Laxus > Jura
Durability: Laxus >>> Jura > Jellal
Stamina: Laxus >>> Jura > Jellal
Strength: Laxus > Jura > Jellal
Ranged attacks: Jellal = Jura = Laxus
CQC: Laxus > Jura >> Jellal
Intelligence: Jellal > Laxus > Jura
Versatility: Jellal >>> Laxus > Jura
I've always rated the two as equals, but Jellal needs to show feats more impressive then what Laxus just did in the South, if he is to be rated higher, he has shown nothing of the sort so far, so I can't give it to him.
Laxus >>> Jellal > Jura atm.

How could Laxus have better speed then Jellal? Jellal has Meteor, which makes him faster than Racer.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 12, 2016, Original Post Date: Apr 12, 2016 ---

Laxus > Jellal until Jellal shows better feats. I won't pretend to know stuff like magical power, because the evidence for that is super dodgy. I'm just going to evaluate things based on the 3 most important factors: Power, Durability, and Speed.

Power: When it comes to AoE the nuke Laxus used against Ajeel rivals Sema, and it was a casual attack. When it comes to damage dealt, Laxus took out Wahl whom had greater durability than any of Oracion Seis. Laxus' casual punches are also tearing streets apart. Overall, I have to give the advantage to Laxus. I can see Laxus matching Jellal's nukes, and overpowering him in hand to hand.
Durability: Laxus has the best durability feats from the good guys right now. Advantage goes to Laxus.
Speed: This is a tricky one. When Laxus turns himself into lightning, he's as fast as lightning. However, he can't launch any attacks with it. When Laxus coats himself in lightning and tries to fly with it, he's significantly slower. Jellal's meteor is probably one of the fastest magics that still allows the person to retain their ability to fight. I'd give the advantage to Jellal because we've never seen Laxus rely heavily on speed, whereas Jellal does rely heavily on speed.

The attack Laxus used against Laxus isn't even close to be equal in AoE with Sema. Sema >>>>> any attack from Laxus (in AoE).