Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Kiki]

How about Jellal's Abyss Break? Besides Grand Chariot and Sema, if I remember correctly Jellal has that spell. Back in Phantom Lord arc Mira said that that spell is a forbidden spell. However both Phantom Lord and Jellal (in Tower of Heaven arc) never succeeded to cast it. I wonder if its damage is really impactful.

 

[Brandish μ]

How about Jellal's Abyss Break? Besides Grand Chariot and Sema, if I remember correctly Jellal has that spell. Back in Phantom Lord arc Mira said that that spell is a forbidden spell. However both Phantom Lord and Jellal (in Tower of Heaven arc) never succeeded to cast it. I wonder if its damage is really impactful.

It'd be really nice to see Jellal use this to defeat Neinhart! It does have hype to be powerful, but I don't think it will be as powerful as Sema.

 

[Loke]

If Laxus' nuke could take down Ajeel, than Sema can do the same.

Laxus feats/hype are his own. They aren't shared between himself and Jellal.

 

[Aonori]

The image with Sema might be more zoomed out, but in proportion to Laxus' nuke I don't see how Sema is that much larger. I also consider Laxus and Jellal to be equals before the Alvarez Arc. Laxus underwent a massive improvement since the 1 year timeskip though, and maybe Jellal hasn't gone through the same improvement.

Here's how I see it: Jellal > laxus if truly improved during 7 year timeskip and isnt trolled or get his powers nerfed like jura did in the GmG.
After 1 year timeskip and the red lightning I'm willing to put Jellal = laxus in raw power when in the magic barrier, but Jellal > laxus when it comes to spell diversity.
Anything lower than this, is Hiro trolling or playing favorites.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 13, 2016, Original Post Date: Apr 13, 2016 ---

Well tbh I see Fairy Law surpassing Sema in both AoE and raw power, and Grand Chariot isn't even a very strong spell, not only did it barely affect Jura in the GMG, but it also didn't take out the Seis.

Jellal nerfed the power level of it, there was no way oracion seis would have survived a meteorite.

 

[Loke]

Assumptions. He had just used Grand Chariot beforehand. He was going all out to beat them.

 

[Aonori]

Assumptions. He had just used Grand Chariot beforehand. He was going all out to beat them.

Who´s to say Grand Charriot didnt have a role in nerfing in the impact of the meteorite? Characters like madara and Fujitora dont use barriers when putting meteorities to smash their foes when they clearly know they cant run away from it, while Jellal clearly did, also shouldnt him and nerve girl also have 2nd origin due to them being with Ultear beforehand? Also Jellal fucking fused with etherion way back, there´s no way he comes out of it, without a permanent power-up (DS come up with power-ups from more silly reasons than this, so I dont see why it shouldnt happen) he should´ve already unlocked 2nd origin plus more broken spells with Etherion, there´s no way Laxus can match this unless Hiro purposedly nerfed Jellal period.

 

[JAk More]

Who´s to say Grand Charriot didnt have a role in nerfing in the impact of the meteorite? Characters like madara and Fujitora dont use barriers when putting meteorities to smash their foes when they clearly know they cant run away from it, while Jellal clearly did, also shouldnt him and nerve girl also have 2nd origin due to them being with Ultear beforehand? Also Jellal fucking fused with etherion way back, there´s no way he comes out of it, without a permanent power-up (DS come up with power-ups from more silly reasons than this, so I dont see why it shouldnt happen) he should´ve already unlocked 2nd origin plus more broken spells with Etherion, there´s no way Laxus can match this unless Hiro purposedly nerfed Jellal period.

ARE YOU SERIOUS? Jelly Boy just got one shoted by a Bi-Shonen
and you are comparing him to laxus freaking dreyar, the only
one so far to beat a spriggian all on his own excluding acnologia.
jelly boy doesn't deserve to clean laxus's boots and this chapter proved
it. He is may more fragile then laxus natsu gray or gajeel. Those 4 have
been through hell but still get up and fight while this guy gets one
shoted but a damn Bi-shonen. If you want to compare who has a large harem
them jellal wins because he has erza, kagura, meredy, ltear and probably
angel. If you want to compare who is more sensitive and in touch with their
femine side then again i agree with you jellal wins. BUT IF YOU WANT TO
COMPARE WHO IS STRONGER AND WHO F'S SHIT UP THEN MY FRIEND THERE IS NO
COMPARISON THAT MAN LAXUS BEAT RAVEN TAIL WITH ONE SHOTS, BEAT JURA, I WILL
SAY IT AGAIN HE NEVER PASS OUT FROM CHILL PEPERS HE BEAT JURA, HE 3 SHOTED TEMPESTA
AND IT THE ANIME GOT UP AND FINISHED OF TEMPSTA, MADE AJEEL CRAP HIS PANTS,
DESTROYED WAL RU WITH ANTI MAGIC PARICULARS IN HIS SYSTEM AND NOT IS SMILING
AS HE IS FACED WITH ONE OF THE STRONGEST CHARACTERS FAIRY HAS TO OFFER IN HADES
AND THEN WE HAS JELLAL WHO GETS ONE SHOTED BY AN ACHER LIKE THE FODDER HE IS.
JELLY BOY SIMPLY DOESN'T COMPARE TO LAXUS WITH REGARD TO STRENGTH, MAGICAL POWER
OR ENDURANCE, WHAT JELLY DOES BEAT LAXUS IN IS BEING EMO SO YOU HAVE THAT ATLEAST.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

ARE YOU SERIOUS? Jelly Boy just got one shoted by a Bi-Shonen
and you are comparing him to laxus freaking dreyar, the only
one so far to beat a spriggian all on his own excluding acnologia.
jelly boy doesn't deserve to clean laxus's boots and this chapter proved
it. He is may more fragile then laxus natsu gray or gajeel. Those 4 have
been through hell but still get up and fight while this guy gets one
shoted but a damn Bi-shonen. If you want to compare who has a large harem
them jellal wins because he has erza, kagura, meredy, ltear and probably
angel. If you want to compare who is more sensitive and in touch with their
femine side then again i agree with you jellal wins. BUT IF YOU WANT TO
COMPARE WHO IS STRONGER AND WHO F'S SHIT UP THEN MY FRIEND THERE IS NO
COMPARISON THAT MAN LAXUS BEAT RAVEN TAIL WITH ONE SHOTS, BEAT JURA, I WILL
SAY IT AGAIN HE NEVER PASS OUT FROM CHILL PEPERS HE BEAT JURA, HE 3 SHOTED TEMPESTA
AND IT THE ANIME GOT UP AND FINISHED OF TEMPSTA, MADE AJEEL CRAP HIS PANTS,
DESTROYED WAL RU WITH ANTI MAGIC PARICULARS IN HIS SYSTEM AND NOT IS SMILING
AS HE IS FACED WITH ONE OF THE STRONGEST CHARACTERS FAIRY HAS TO OFFER IN HADES
AND THEN WE HAS JELLAL WHO GETS ONE SHOTED BY AN ACHER LIKE THE FODDER HE IS.
JELLY BOY SIMPLY DOESN'T COMPARE TO LAXUS WITH REGARD TO STRENGTH, MAGICAL POWER
OR ENDURANCE, WHAT JELLY DOES BEAT LAXUS IN IS BEING EMO SO YOU HAVE THAT ATLEAST.

That is straight up bias. You're listing every notable feat from Laxus while only mentioning the comedy reliefs on Jellal's part. If you think so highly of Laxus, answer this question.

Question: Was Laxus weak for absorbing Tempesta's Anti-Magical Barrier Particles and saving an entire town from it?

How can you be so one-sided here? Of course every character has their strong and weak points, but you're analyzing the fights inaccurately as if you want it to favor the character that you like more. Don't start twisting manga feats. Sure you might like and dislike a character but that doesn't mean you have to protect that person when they are clearly not what you paint them to be.

By the way, Laxus protecting the city, causing him to remain unconscious throughout all the fights in the Tartaros Arc is very similar to Erza who defended Fairy Tail from the Jupiter Cannon in the Phantom Lord Arc, which is pretty much the same as Jellal saving Kagura from Neinhart's attack in the Alvarez Arc. The strong characters always have to make a sacrifice which makes sense because it would have less impact on them than an ordinary mage.

 

[Ultimateasus]

By Jak's logic, Laxus cannot handle transportation and will lose to Lucy in a bus. Therefore, Lucy is stronger.

 

[Asorx]

That fanboying laxus is scary.

 

[Loke]

The damage control for Jellal is also scary. He just showed up and already got a one way trip to the ocean floor.

 

[Aonori]

The damage control for Jellal is also scary. He just showed up and already got a one way trip to the ocean floor.

Same damage control was done to sieghart in Rave master.
Mages like jellal need lots of damage control to keep in check otherwise they will take the spotlight from the protags and their worshipper nakama powered up cult FT.

If he was a Ft member he would've been given way more spotlight and better fights too.

 

[BluePegasus]

I find it quite funny that a lot Laxus fan boys start to get mad when someone says another mage surpasses him. But in the end, the only thing they're doing is overrating Laxus and simply forget every feat other mages have shown, just because they don't want to accept Laxus weaker points.

Stop saying Jellal was oneshotted by Neinhart. He saved Kagura so he lost his attention at Neinhart's attacks. The same would happen to Laxus if he was on a ship and tried to save someone as Freed. Or well, I don't know if some Laxus fan boys think he is a heartless person. I'm sorry, but it's just ironic that people think Jellal is weak because he fell off a ship. Jellal will come back and take on Neinhart, just wait and see.

Now, let's take a look on the bright sides from Jellal.

+ He took down the Oración Seis on his own.
+ In the GMG, he was about to defeat Jura.
+ Sema is one of the highest AoE spell we've seen so far.

And now we'll look to Laxus his bright sides so everything is fair.

+ He took down a Spriggan.
+ Powerful spells.
+ He defeated Jura.

Sorry, but I don't see a lot difference when I compare the impressive things Jellal and Laxus showed me. Yes, Laxus defeated a Spriggan which is the most impressive thing of all his feats. But does this say he is stronger than Jellal? No. Why? Because Jellal didn't even had a chance to fight against one. So no, Laxus isn't stronger than Jellal because he defeated a Spriggan, since Jellal has yet to try.

Same counts for Laxus vs. Jura. If Jellal would've cast Sema, he would definitely defeat Jura. And once he did, he had less diff than Laxus had against Jura.

And then we've feats. Jellal's feats outclasses Laxus' feats.

Jellal:
Speed > Laxus (thanks to Meteor)
Defense > Laxus (thanks to Meteor)
Magic > Laxus (thanks to spell diversity).
AoE > Laxus (thanks to Sema)
Intelligence > Laxus

Laxus:
Stamina > Jellal

As for attack,
Jellal = Laxus

If someone disagrees, then tell me why. I will ignore every Laxus fanboy crap, just so you know.

Jellal surpasses Laxus in feats which seems like a fact to me.

 

[Aonori]

I don't think that jellal is stronger than laxus... for me there's not that much difference but still laxus is stronger .

Sema is a strong spell one hit ko just like UM but still based on what laxus have shown I would puts him higher than jellal? Of course laxus is not csk that possibly could tank sema but idk just based on what both have shown laxus seems stronger and I'm not even fan of him .

Jellal is like In his late twenty but he never seems like he grown stronger after the first time skip , while laxus trapped in tenrou island but still powerful .

Why? We didnt even see Jellal displaying his own feats properly in fights, yet, I just hope people dont get dissapointed once he actually delivers 100% and turns out he was way above certain FT characters... (Unless Hiro trolls again).

 

[Aonori]

I think that he have shown every feats that he have when he fight OC . And based on what I see he had trouble defeating weak OC..... and I don't think that OC even seriously fighting him Lol.

Depends, lets not Forget Midnight only got handled by Erza way back, case of her sintethic eye (which lets be honests was been too much used to give her a ex machina against eye powers and ilusionists), if Erza didnt had that sinthetic eye she would have been fucked. That aside other Orachion Seis members abilities arent exactly scrub level either, it´s the users themselves that didnt improve as much as one would expect, still since they only got to deliver in a arc and then sent to prison afterwards canonly speaking it´s a tough call to see how much they improved post timeskip, if Ultear was still alive by their recruitment time they would´ve get 2nd origin too which is shame, eitherway I still believe they are best compared from their level in the filler arc of the anime, rather than just the canon manga, case at least, the anime showcases, angel´s new magic she started using, the relation between Eric and Kinana (which wasnt as much developped even then), Midnight (he was a beast in that arc, nobody can deny that), Racer (I think he Overpowered in that arc and then nerfed afterwards).

At least on that arc those mentioned werent scrubs but I could see why it´s controversial the whole fight between them and Jellal, eitherway it´s hard to say if Jellal could´ve won if they went in seriously from their filler arc level against him, he would most likely lost or unless he had very OP abilities he isnt showcasing then he might´ve won and even that is controversial.

That said OC are at least from my view, controversial at a powerscale level (in their introduction arc they were dealt dirty and with team work in most cases and the arc were they were handled individually (ok, some individually), is a filler arc), so they werent the best measuring tool for Jellal, the spriggans however are as good of a measure line as there is for Jellal, one-on-one speaking.

 

[Ichibei]

Anyways, Hiro can make whatever he wants, so comparing Jellal to somebody else like laxus based on past fights is hard since Hiro might not follow his own logic.

I dont see him giving much love for non ft characters ( see how sabertooth got beaten in the north), so although Jellal is very impressive ( his magic and design is cool) I doubt that we will see much from him, but I hope that he will K.O Nineheart.

 

[Loke]

I find it quite funny that a lot Laxus fan boys start to get mad when someone says another mage surpasses him. But in the end, the only thing they're doing is overrating Laxus and simply forget every feat other mages have shown, just because they don't want to accept Laxus weaker points.

Kinda hard to overrated the one that actually lives up to his hype. The one that's constantly nerfed by the creator just to give his opponents a chance. Just saying.

Stop saying Jellal was oneshotted by Neinhart.

Except he was. No way around it.

The same would happen to Laxus if he was on a ship and tried to save someone as Freed.

Baseless. Let's not lump Laxus in with that pitiful display. He saved Makarov and company from Ajeel's Sands of Death without sustaining injury.

but it's just ironic that people think Jellal is weak because he fell off a ship

Fell off a ship? He was blasted off. That small attack knocked him unconscious hence why he needed to be carried to the surface by Kagura. Shit durability confirmed for Jellal.

Jellal will come back and take on Neinhart, just wait and see.

Obviously thanks to Kagura.

Now, let's take a look on the bright sides from Jellal.

+ He took down the Oración Seis on his own.
+ In the GMG, he was about to defeat Jura.
+ Sema is one of the highest AoE spell we've seen so far.

And now we'll look to Laxus his bright sides so everything is fair.

+ He took down a Spriggan.
+ Powerful spells.
+ He defeated Jura.

So somehow the guy beating Spriggans and Wizard Saints is weaker than the guy beating OS fodder. K. You can make all the assumptions you like regarding whether Sema would have taken out Jura or not but the fact is he had to use it with Grand Chariot just to beat OS, so yeah, doubtful.

Sorry, but I don't see a lot difference when I compare the impressive things Jellal and Laxus showed me. Yes, Laxus defeated a Spriggan which is the most impressive thing of all his feats.

That's the most impressive thing between the both of them, not just Laxus.

But does this say he is stronger than Jellal? No. Why? Because Jellal didn't even had a chance to fight against one. So no, Laxus isn't stronger than Jellal because he defeated a Spriggan, since Jellal has yet to try.

He had a chance, he just got one shot.

Same counts for Laxus vs. Jura. If Jellal would've cast Sema, he would definitely defeat Jura. And once he did, he had less diff than Laxus had against Jura.

Again this is baseless. You have no way of proving who would have won that.

And then we've feats. Jellal's feats outclasses Laxus' feats.

We've seen him beat fodder. Whether that outclasses a guy who holds victories over a Wizard Saint and a Spriggan..yeah..you'd have to be a bonafide fanboy to state this.

Jellal:
Speed < Laxus (Blitzed a Spriggan)
Defense < Laxus (Tanked Spriggan attacks)
Magic < Laxus (Quality > Quantity. Laxus takes out big dogs)
AoE =< Laxus (Laxus has casually replicated Sema)
Intelligence > Laxus

Laxus:
Stamina > Jellal

As for attack,
Jellal < Laxus

 

[Firepower]

Wow, insulting people cause of a fucking manga, lol. Sometimes I forget that this is the internet.

Anyways, Hiro can make whatever he wants, so comparing Jellal to somebody else like laxus based on past fights is hard since Hiro might not follow his own logic.

I dont see him giving much love for non ft characters ( see how sabertooth got beaten in the north), so although Jellal is very impressive ( his magic and design is cool) I doubt that we will see much from him, but I hope that he will K.O Nineheart.

Hiro has been pretty sharp and logical about the story. There's only been one or two things I've disagreed with, but overall very logical. Most complaints are due to favoritism or hype. As strong as others claim to be or characters claim them to be I don't believe any of it until they actually fight, unless the hype is based on feats. This discussion about Jellal vs Laxus has gone overboard. They are too close in power to determine a winner. It's a rivalry and I like to think if they fought twice, both would have one win each because it's that close. No matter what that fight would take everything out of them. Hi diff fight.

This discussion came a week too soon, or until Jellal shows what he can do. Instead he was being held back protecting an over emotional Kagura. That is an exception that shouldn't determine much. It gives the idea that he is weak, but there's a good chance that wouldn't have done anything to him if Jellal and Neinhart were alone fighting. That attack Neinhart did to smash them down the ship was a simple attack for him. So aside from his corpse magic, he demonstrated he can easily shoot strong projectiles. For now cool down, be patient and wait for the chapter when Jellal demonstrates his year long worth of training. He most likely has trained because he said he was ready to take down Zeref. We know that's not going to happen, but he probably worked hard during the year to make that claim. There's no proof for comparison yet to decide which one is greater in this arc, so breath, relax and do something productive in the meantime.

 

[Jko]

How I see it between Laxus and Jellal.

Laxus:
Stamina/MP
Intelligence (battle/tacticle wise)
Speed (lightning is faster than a meteor by a lot)
Strength
Defense/Endurance

Jellal:
Intelligence (book smart)
Magic diversity

Both:
AoE

Laxus' feats trumps Jellal's by a margin so I don't where people are calling Laxus fans wanker when Jellal's best feat is taking out Oracion Seis (a bunch of pre-first TS characters). By feats Laxus is just the superior of the two and I've yet to seen a feat from Jellal that can beat Laxus pre-ts or currently. Just bcs Jellal has big flashy attack that doesn't mean he was superior to Laxus pre-ts. If he beat someone of a higher caliber with that attack then we could get somewhere but that Spell's best feat was taking out the weakest guild in the Baram Alliance.

 

[Firepower]

How I see it between Laxus and Jellal.

Laxus:
Stamina/MP
Intelligence (battle/tacticle wise)
Speed (lightning is faster than a meteor by a lot)
Strength
Defense/Endurance

Jellal:
Intelligence (book smart)
Magic diversity

Both:
AoE

Laxus' feats trumps Jellal's by a margin so I don't where people are calling Laxus fans wanker when Jellal's best feat is taking out Oracion Seis (a bunch of pre-first TS characters). By feats Laxus is just the superior of the two and I've yet to seen a feat from Jellal that can beat Laxus pre-ts or currently. Just bcs Jellal has big flashy attack that doesn't mean he was superior to Laxus pre-ts. If he beat someone of a higher caliber with that attack then we could get somewhere but that Spell's best feat was taking out the weakest guild in the Baram Alliance.

Calm your ass down. It's unfair to to talk about feats when one hasn't shown what he's got yet. You won't get anywhere because you have to wait and see what he can do. You can't go saying who is stronger this arc when one hasn't done anything yet. It's like saying August is shit if all he can do is put up a barrier to stop one attack and confuse the radar. YOU ALL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS BEFORE ARGUING OVER SOMETHING THAT CANT BE ANSWERED YET.