Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Axiomus]

Both mard and Hades has better feats than Ajeel...

Mard with base form was able to fight against CSK who is stronger than Ajeel or Lisanna and Elfman...

Hades destroyed Titan Makarov who destoyed Grimore-heart airship with pure strenght alone...

Such as? CSK has very similar feats to Ikusatsunagi in terms of AoE and damage, and Ikusatsunagi wasn't Spriggan level. Makarov never defeated any Spriggans with Fairy Heart.

 

[**Silver**]

Such as? CSK has very similar feats to Ikusatsunagi in terms of AoE and damage, and Ikusatsunagi wasn't Spriggan level. Makarov never defeated any Spriggans with Fairy Heart.

Lisanna and Elfman win the fight only because Plot-convenient Reasons but that doesent mean Elfman and lisanna is stronger than Makarov or hades....

besides Ikusa was one-shotted against Natsu who essentially one-shotted ENCHANTED NEINHART who is stronger than Low tier spriggans...

 

[Axiomus]

Lisanna and Elfman win the fight only because Plot-convenient Reasons but that doesent mean Elfman and lisanna is stronger than Makarov or hades....

besides Ikusa was one-shotted against Natsu who essentially one-shotted ENCHANTED NEINHART who is stronger than Low tier spriggans...

We don't actually know how Elfman and Lisanna won their fights. But if Elfman and Lisanan beat Ajeel with plot related reasons, this also means that Hades and Makarov won't be able to use those advantages against Ajeel. Personally, I think Franmalth gave us a godo idea of what Hades w/o heart was capable of, and I don't think Franmalth stacks up against any Spriggans.

Being oneshotted by Natsu isn't exactly an argument for or against any character's power level. Natsu's stronger than most Spriggans, and depending on the effort he puts into an attack...has the potential to oneshot almost anyone that's not on the Zeref/August/Irene spectrum.

 

[**Silver**]

We don't actually know how Elfman and Lisanna won their fights. But if Elfman and Lisanan beat Ajeel with plot related reasons, this also means that Hades and Makarov won't be able to use those advantages against Ajeel. Personally, I think Franmalth gave us a godo idea of what Hades w/o heart was capable of, and I don't think Franmalth stacks up against any Spriggans.

Being oneshotted by Natsu isn't exactly an argument for or against any character's power level. Natsu's stronger than most Spriggans, and depending on the effort he puts into an attack...has the potential to oneshot almost anyone that's not on the Zeref/August/Irene spectrum.

its really hard to believe that Franmath fodder or Lisanna and Elfman is stronger than Magic genius Precht or Mard....

Franmalth was afraid Silver mere presence and Silver is Gmc Jura tier... so what this tell about Franmalt? hes weak even by Tartaros standarts

Hades----->Makarov---->Jura/Silver---->Franmalth

agree or not i still believe that Precht and Mard is stronger than Lisanna and Elfman period...

 

[Demon Hunter]

best way to judge Hades' power is through his Historia.

heavily injured Laxus took down Hades with a top tier DS move.

heavily injured Laxus > Historia Hades >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tartaros Natsu, Lucy

 

[Axiomus]

its really hard to believe that Franmath fodder or Lisanna and Elfman is stronger than Magic genius Precht or Mard....

Franmalth was afraid Silver mere presence and Silver is Gmc Jura tier... so what this tell about Franmalt? hes weak even by Tartaros standarts

Hades----->Makarov---->Jura/Silver---->Franmalth

agree or not i still believe that Precht and Mard is stronger than Lisanna and Elfman period...

Franmalth isn't stronger than Mard. He does however have Hades' magical power, so he's probably as strong as Hades w/o Heart in terms of magical power. Maybe not durability, as that is Franmalth's own.

I have Makarov/Jura/Silver all on the same level. Hades is half a tier stronger than Makarov. Mard is half a tier stronger than Hades.

The only reason we wouldn't put Elfman above Mard/Hades is because of our notions of him prior to the timeskip. Elfman trained with Mirajane over the timeskip, and Mirajane can arguably hold her own with Jacob.

 

[Cosmicstar]

its really hard to believe that Franmath fodder or Lisanna and Elfman is stronger than Magic genius Precht or Mard....

Franmalth was afraid Silver mere presence and Silver is Gmc Jura tier... so what this tell about Franmalt? hes weak even by Tartaros standarts

Hades----->Makarov---->Jura/Silver---->Franmalth

agree or not i still believe that Precht and Mard is stronger than Lisanna and Elfman period...

Silver was superior to Warrod who was superior to Jura. Thus Silver wasn't on GMG Jura level but beyond it. Warrod magic was weaker than Silver's magic confirmed during the arc when Warrod couldn't undo Silver's Ice.

Silver>Franmarth(With Hades Soul)>Warrod>Jura

 

[Axiomus]

Silver was superior to Warrod who was superior to Jura. Thus Silver wasn't on GMG Jura level but beyond it. Warrod magic was weaker than Silver's magic confirmed during the arc when Warrod couldn't undo Silver's Ice.

Silver>Franmarth(With Hades Soul)>Warrod>Jura

Warrod being unable to melt the Ice doesn't mean he was weaker than Silver. The ice wasn't unbreakable, and the treasure hunters were able to cut it with swords and they weren't even mages. I'm sure if Warrod wanted to break the ice, he could have done it fairly easily. Warrod simply couldn't melt the ice in a fashion that would save the giants. Gray could undo the ice, and he wasn't really more powerful than Silver.

Personally I have Hades w/o his heart as being weaker than Laxus. Tenrou LFD Natsu was overpowering Hades when it came to direct combat fairly easily, at that was done with Laxus' power. IMO without the devil's heart, Hades was weaker than Warrod.

 

[Saigon]

I do think Elfman and Lisanna did grow a lot, but i think the only reason they did win was for the plot (not doubting their strength) it just would've been more reasonable/realistic if mira came to help them at the end. But i guess he wanted to shift away from them always depending on Mirajane to save them.
Moving on to mirajane, her fights are always underwhelming for the most part. I was happy that she did win a fight (even if it was off screen), I just wish Hiro gave Mirajane more screentime, and actually showed her using her full potential like he does with Laxus etc.
Most of her fights are half-assed/ using base satan soul (fighting jacob), why did he even bother giving her more power ups if she'll just always use the Same one.

 

[Demon Hunter]

how is Silver this overrated???

remove his super advantage against demons and the ranking is like this

Mard Geer > Kyôka > Silver > Seilah > Tempester > Torafuzar > Keyes > Jackal > Franmalth

not sure about Keyes, Jackal and Franmalth.

so if Erza being roughly equal to Kyôka in combat and Jura >>>> Kyôka >= Erza > Silver, how can Silver be above Jura

 

[LaGOAT]

its really hard to believe that Franmath fodder or Lisanna and Elfman is stronger than Magic genius Precht or Mard....

Franmalth was afraid Silver mere presence and Silver is Gmc Jura tier... so what this tell about Franmalt? hes weak even by Tartaros standarts

Hades----->Makarov---->Jura/Silver---->Franmalth

agree or not i still believe that Precht and Mard is stronger than Lisanna and Elfman period...

Makarov is at gmg Jura tier

how is Silver this overrated???

remove his super advantage against demons and the ranking is like this

Mard Geer > Kyôka > Silver > Seilah > Tempester > Torafuzar > Keyes > Jackal > Franmalth

not sure about Keyes, Jackal and Franmalth.

so if Erza being roughly equal to Kyôka in combat and Jura >>>> Kyôka >= Erza > Silver, how can Silver be above Jura

True silver at best is on gmg laxus level slighty below imo but the advantage give him a boost btw bro ur post cracks me up

 

[**Silver**]

how is Silver this overrated???

remove his super advantage against demons and the ranking is like this

Mard Geer > Kyôka > Silver > Seilah > Tempester > Torafuzar > Keyes > Jackal > Franmalth

not sure about Keyes, Jackal and Franmalth.

so if Erza being roughly equal to Kyôka in combat and Jura >>>> Kyôka >= Erza > Silver, how can Silver be above Jura

how Silver is overrated insta Freezing sun-village and Atlas-Flame is top tier move....

One-shotting Natsu is quite impressive right???

Silver is atleast par with Gmc Jura....

even Gray has become Spriggan tier because he obtained his fathers Devil Slaying Abilities otherwise Gray would be currently be weaker than Lyon...

 

[Arjuna]

how Silver is overrated insta Freezing sun-village and Atlas-Flame is top tier move....

One-shotting Natsu is quite impressive right???

Silver is atleast par with Gmc Jura....

even Gray has become Spriggan tier because he obtained his fathers Devil Slaying Abilities otherwise Gray would be currently be weaker than Lyon...

Atlas Flame was already dead.When his spirit form was revived by Wendy he easily melted all ice of Sun Village.

And one of the important reasons why Silver one shotted Natsu was:-

i)It was Base Natsu.

ii)Silver had slight Des advantage.

iii)Silver was stronger than Base Natsu that time.

Hiro himself has said in character cards that Silver is weaker than Kyoka.

 

[Jko]

Guys all of the off-panelled fights are BS and filled with plot holes.
Like the north.If they faced Bloodman and Rankheid,how did anyone survive? They just one-shoot anyone who comes near....

I'm pretty sure Irene is the one that soloed ST and BP. Sting's Holy attribute, and Rogue's shadows have both been showed to affect him yet was surprised when Levy did, and when Rogue did it like 30 chapters after the northern fight. Nobody in ST knew what Larcade even looked liked and was surprised by his power. I'm pretty sure Bloodman and Larcade just took out the fodder while Irene smashed the important members.

 

[Saigon]

Why is erza classified as very strong?
Most of her fights (if not all) were won by help She was losing to ajeel but won by that cannon She was gonna lose to Irene if Wendy did get this boost and enchant her sword.
Anyways I think kagura is slightly below Mirajane&Erza in terms of power.

 

[Pheromone]

Hiro himself has said in character cards that Silver is weaker than Kyoka.

Silver's curse power is less than Kyoka's, but both his attack and defense are higher than hers.

Silver wasn't a demon to begin with, unlike Kyoka. No surprise.

 

[Jko]

Why is erza classified as very strong?
Most of her fights (if not all) were won by help She was losing to ajeel but won by that cannon She was gonna lose to Irene if Wendy did get this boost and enchant her sword.
Anyways I think kagura is slightly below Mirajane&Erza in terms of power.

Erza or Mira would whoop Kagura. Kagura got smashed by Erza who didn't even use second origin which means she got beat by Tenrou Erza. Current Erza manage to hurt Ajeel, and could've killed him if she aimed for his neck with that water sword. Mira one on one a S12.

Kagura couldn't even take down Neinhart physically the weakest S12. She has been constantly beaten by a S12, and in no way shown anything that could harm them. No way is she on Erza's or Mira's level. Her feats have been subpar this arc.

 

[Seven777]

Why is erza classified as very strong?
Most of her fights (if not all) were won by help She was losing to ajeel but won by that cannon She was gonna lose to Irene if Wendy did get this boost and enchant her sword.
Anyways I think kagura is slightly below Mirajane&Erza in terms of power.

Erza's best feat is slashing Eileen's Deus Sema.
Kagura's best feat is slashing some of Larcade's light attacks.
Eileen>>>Larcade.
I love Kagura, but like Minerva she is no longer top tier. She could probably beat a spriggan historia, but thats about it.

 

[LaGOAT]

Yo I just realize something I reread the fight between natsu and zeref first round. Zeref isn't on par with BDKM natsu he is on par with IgNatsu base mode BDKM natsu>zeref=ig base mode natsu. Now zeref mention that igneel>END. Now prime ingeel is around ancologia lvl. So It's ancologia>ingeel>=FH zeref>BDKM natsu>zeref>=ig base mode natsu>=DF natsu>END if end is revived and somehow beats anco and FH zeref then hiro is fucking up the power lvls once again but knowing him he could do that so.....

 

[Arjuna]

Silver's curse power is less than Kyoka's, but both his attack and defense are higher than hers.

Silver wasn't a demon to begin with, unlike Kyoka. No surprise.

We consider one character stronger or weaker based on their magic power or Curse Power only Just like Neinhart and Jacob who are strong but their physicals are bad.