Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[LaGOAT]

Zeref is known to contradict himself, besides, he did not know that END did awaken so he would not know that Natsu didn’t have the power to beat him

I don’t get why U think END could beat zeref when Erza causally stop his and gray attacks

 

[WoWfan]

Because both Gray and Natsu were not at full power at the time, seeing as Natsu was in the process of transforming at the time and being repeatedly damaged by someone who has powers that is meant to be kryptonite to him

 

[LaGOAT]

Because both Gray and Natsu were not at full power at the time, seeing as Natsu was in the process of transforming at the time and being repeatedly damaged by someone who has powers that is meant to be kryptonite to him

But some1 like Erza was able causally stop both their attacks with ease it looks like she didn’t even trying 2. there is no proof that END would be even as strong as igneel powered natsu. 3. DS>demon power that has been a fact DF natsu might have the power to erase some1 while END couldnt put no damage to Erza

 

[WoWfan]

If we compare the other times she actually had to stop both Gray and Natsu at the same time, this time around, she would actually put more effort into it. Natsu prior to END had more trouble dealing Spriggans while END appeared to no diff them, so there is obviously a power gap. I doubt that DF Natsu is stronger than Igneel powered Natsu who could not even erase regular Zeref, again, END was very likely not even at it’s peak.

 

[Cosmicstar]

E.N.D power is beyond the power Igneel powered Natsu, as Brandish magic could work on Igneel power natsu but she states the power growing(E.N.D) in Natsu is beyond her power. Also it is canon that E.N.D can beat Zeref as E.N.D is Natsu and Natsu beat Zeref empowered by Fairy Heart. So Zeref statement was proven false.

E.N.D would Natsu and everything he possesses. From his Flames of emotions to his Demonficiation to even his dragonfication.

 

[Arjuna]

E.N.D power is beyond the power Igneel powered Natsu, as Brandish magic could work on Igneel power natsu but she states the power growing(E.N.D) in Natsu is beyond her power. Also it is canon that E.N.D can beat Zeref as E.N.D is Natsu and Natsu beat Zeref empowered by Fairy Heart. So Zeref statement was proven false.

E.N.D would Natsu and everything he possesses. From his Flames of emotions to his Demonficiation to even his dragonfication.

when did Brandish'' power work on IgNatsu?

 

[WoWfan]

When she effected Natsu with his head and the other time with his tumor, Natsu always has dragon king mode after all.

 

[Arjuna]

When she effected Natsu with his head and the other time with his tumor, Natsu always has dragon king mode after all.

That is not Igneel powered Natsu.He clearly mentioned his power vanished right after his fight with Zeref. and it is a one time usage.

 

[WoWfan]

Natsu still utilized the Dragon King mode though

 

[Arjuna]

That is different,he used that even before he used it against Zeref,opening the bandage was the indication that he was going to use it,and he clearly mentioned it is one time and he cannot use it after that.

 

[WoWfan]

He clearly stated that he used Igneel’s flames before on the War God to defeat it without going BDKM.

 

[Arjuna]

Two powerups are different,against war god he used his own power to fuel FDK,while against Zeref he used Igneel's power as a fuel.Also for the last time Natsu mentioned Igneel's power is one time usage.

 

[WoWfan]

Natsu explicitly stated that it was Igneel’s Fire when before he delivered the demolition fist, one time usage is not the same as able to utilize Igneel’s flames before.

 

[Arjuna]

one time usage means one time usage,when he opened the bandage it was an indication he is going to use it ,also he mentioned this is only for Zeref.


But anyway this is my last post.We are going in a circle.

 

[WoWfan]

One time usage or not, his arm still reacted to Spriggans who are beneath Zeref who Natsu used Igneel’s Fire to kill a war god. But anyway, that is what is shown and said in the manga

 

[Axiomus]

Igneel's fire =/= Igneel's magic power. Natsu can use fire dragon king spells with his own power, both before and after he used Igneel's magic power against Zeref. He also used Igneel's magic power to fuel regular fire dragon spells, without going into FDK mode.

In any case, Igneel's power ran out after Natsu vs Zeref. Brandish didn't use her power on Igneel-powered Natsu. She really didn't even use her magic on FDK mode Natsu either. She used her magic on base Natsu. And not even in a fight. They were playing around. This is a far cry from the version of Natsu that was ready to lay down his life to kill Zeref.

 

[WoWfan]

It doesn’t really matter really as even with Igneel’s power, it reacted specifically to a Spriggan’s magic power. He even struggled against them where as END he no diff

 

[LaGOAT]

And Team Natsu struggled against brandish’s lackey that doesn’t mean shit cuz Mashima inconsistent power levels the fact of the matter is ig natsu might have killed zeref while ur speculating that END would have killed zeref When gray was eating his attacks and Erza laugh off his punch

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 11, 2018, Original Post Date: Oct 11, 2018 ---

E.N.D power is beyond the power Igneel powered Natsu, as Brandish magic could work on Igneel power natsu but she states the power growing(E.N.D) in Natsu is beyond her power. Also it is canon that E.N.D can beat Zeref as E.N.D is Natsu and Natsu beat Zeref empowered by Fairy Heart. So Zeref statement was proven false.

E.N.D would Natsu and everything he possesses. From his Flames of emotions to his Demonficiation to even his dragonfication.

Show me proof of ur claim

 

[WoWfan]

Again, and I cannot stress this enough that Gray is meant to be a natural weakness to END because he is a Demon and Gray is a Devil slayer. And again, both are weakened and Erza is just that naturally strong.

 

[Raven]

Not to mention that Erza was in flame pants, An outfit that increase her offense and decrease her defense which make partial END look more bad