Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[sharkai]

Oh please, again with your "everyone loves Laxus and hates Erza" nonsense? Just go look at the poll in the chapter discussion thread, %40 of people want Erza to win, %60 of people want Laxus to win. Laxus is only slightly more loved than Erza and yet you've been literally going on for years crying about how unfair everyone is to her. It's all in your head, Erza and Laxus are both treated appropriately.

Why would there be anything saying GMG Erza is Jura tier?

Except Mashima did give him something else, he made him kill a different spriggan while massively handicapped.
I do what? Erza can't casually do anything, she could prob cut Melt with Nakagami if that makes you feel better. As for Laxus getting her feats, nah, busting a spriggan is simply more impressive than busting a top spriggan attack. Besides, we'll see who's stronger soon enough.

Igneel hits without magic.
So? Tanking an attack so powerful that it broke Gildarts' new arm is more impressive durability than any spriggan has shown.
Natsu and Gajeel's durability is high too. Jura is better though, because unlike Natsu and Gajeel he wasn't left helpless by a roar.
Indeed, if it were feats alone Silver's durability would be trash. I certainly thought it was til the stats came out.
No, the problem on Ajeel's durability record is that he got beat by Elfman and Lisanna. People still thought he had good durability before that despite knowing Laxus could oneshot him. Laxus oneshots most spriggans, it's expected. The statement doesn't have to be true, but it almost certainly is given Laxus' performance and the track record of spriggans in general.

BS
People have been constantly hating erza
Showing me one poll after having their hype shat on means nothing.
People have been hating for a long time. Even in discussion thread people are calling erza mary sue or pof queen even though laxus bigger mary sue. Poeple including you have been non stop excusing laxus bs.

he was riding on fan hype, nothing else. That is why he was ranked tier above erza, because of fan hype nothing else. Meanwhile erza was ranked natsu tier even though mishma protrayed exact opposite.
Too bad mishma had laxus face erza now. He doesn't seems to be above in speed hell he seems below in damage output, a guy who ranked a tier above erza got this much fuked by non serious erza lol


I remember after erza fuked up dragon irene
You retcon everything we knew about dragon slayers and said base dragon slayers should be stronger than their dragon counterpart.
Thats how people managed to get August beat to irene
Same way to keep laxus hype. Stronger mages can have far weaker durability now. Like maybe aria had better durability than jose.


Same reason laxus some how got to human irene tier

Wow.
So erza wasnt handicaped
Gajeel wasnt handicaped

And wahl himself didnt go full retarded
And laxus did not pull some else magic right out his a$$.

So taking out meridy or zancrow is more impressive than taking out bluenote black hole, interesting. Overpowering jura mt fugi is more impressive than taking out angel sister or rufus, interesting.

Same for.laxus. laxus cant do causally anything either. Thus his hype is pure bs. Now if laxus was amped up on pof and use his most strongest mve than yeah he might kill ajeel


It is not about who is stronger. We already know erza will win, like 90% chance. But people in their lack of hate for erza (assuming you are correct) put erza atleast a tier below laxus. There should be no chance for laxus to lose, he should have won, mid diff at most. Now people are worrying laxus will lose.
Why do you think their predictions were so wrong about laxus and erza power
Their prediction was laxus will fight jellal. And fodder erza will fight fodder mira


Gildarts used that arm because it was a away to cast holder type magic. Does it has to be gildarts strongest magic? Sorry lacarde casually blocked kagura with two.fingers. irene easily took enhanced erza charged to head, with complete distraction.

Laxus performance isnt anything to speak of, he needed severe plot nonsense to win. Laxus couldnt even kill natsu causally in ff arc, he couldnt even knock him out. Hades couldnt kill wndy or lucy causally, his non serious moves didnt even knock them.out. jellal had to use like his strongest or second strongest move to kill Simon. Even jellal couldnt casually kill nienhart
But ofcourse now laxus can causally kill springgans. Did he even kill that demon gate?

 

[kenedyfake]

BS
People have been constantly hating erza
Showing me one poll after having their hype shat on means nothing.
People have been hating for a long time. Even in discussion thread people are calling erza mary sue or pof queen even though laxus bigger mary sue. Poeple including you have been non stop excusing laxus bs.

he was riding on fan hype, nothing else. That is why he was ranked tier above erza, because of fan hype nothing else. Meanwhile erza was ranked natsu tier even though mishma protrayed exact opposite.
Too bad mishma had laxus face erza now. He doesn't seems to be above in speed hell he seems below in damage output, a guy who ranked a tier above erza got this much fuked by non serious erza lol


I remember after erza fuked up dragon irene
You retcon everything we knew about dragon slayers and said base dragon slayers should be stronger than their dragon counterpart.
Thats how people managed to get August beat to irene
Same way to keep laxus hype. Stronger mages can have far weaker durability now. Like maybe aria had better durability than jose.


Same reason laxus some how got to human irene tier

Wow.
So erza wasnt handicaped
Gajeel wasnt handicaped

And wahl himself didnt go full retarded
And laxus did not pull some else magic right out his a$$.

So taking out meridy or zancrow is more impressive than taking out bluenote black hole, interesting. Overpowering jura mt fugi is more impressive than taking out angel sister or rufus, interesting.

Same for.laxus. laxus cant do causally anything either. Thus his hype is pure bs. Now if laxus was amped up on pof and use his most strongest mve than yeah he might kill ajeel


It is not about who is stronger. We already know erza will win, like 90% chance. But people in their lack of hate for erza (assuming you are correct) put erza atleast a tier below laxus. There should be no chance for laxus to lose, he should have won, mid diff at most. Now people are worrying laxus will lose.
Why do you think their predictions were so wrong about laxus and erza power
Their prediction was laxus will fight jellal. And fodder erza will fight fodder mira


Gildarts used that arm because it was a away to cast holder type magic. Does it has to be gildarts strongest magic? Sorry lacarde casually blocked kagura with two.fingers. irene easily took enhanced erza charged to head, with complete distraction.

Laxus performance isnt anything to speak of, he needed severe plot nonsense to win. Laxus couldnt even kill natsu causally in ff arc, he couldnt even knock him out. Hades couldnt kill wndy or lucy causally, his non serious moves didnt even knock them.out. jellal had to use like his strongest or second strongest move to kill Simon. Even jellal couldnt casually kill nienhart
But ofcourse now laxus can causally kill springgans. Did he even kill that demon gate?

the luxus wank in this forum, is pathetic..


erza vs luxus is a reality shock for these people ...

 

[Axiomus]

1) and what if they dont have feats. Like majority of villians who aren't boss character or dont come across natsu.
And what kind of feat. Large aoe, being able to throw people far away or Actually taking out poeple?

2) red lightening is laxus strongest move. In Alvarez laxus was amped up pof as well. Why i should use this and say laxus casually can do this. I dont see you saying that erza can causally over power August top tier moves.
3) strongest mage does not make him any more reliable. Meanwhile ajeel confidence was not even remotely damaged
4) sooo. Getting hit by a car doesnt change victim durability? Erza got aria form 100% to 0%. Aria regained consciousness and tried to sneak markarov and markarov took aria hp 5% to 0%.
So gajeel is a tier above aria in durability? So wrecked erza one shot arai, fully erza can seriously damage gajeel with same attack.
5) natsu feats are better because he is a main character. He has taken every single boss. He gets most panels. His fights are the longest.
And yet mishma keeps on showing gray not to be too far from natsu. That owl guy beat natsu. He easily tanked natsu moves too. Gray took him out after he was using his own power with natsu add on. Even that same stats you keep on taking about gray isnt that far from.natsu.


Yet erza had no problem beating natsu
Gildarts had no problem beating natsu
Why was only natsu being considerate for gray here (complete opposite of his personality)
Why did mishma do this?why were they rivals

6) erza was caught by suprise. Worse than natsu was. She was attacking cobra and when racer appeared. And unlike natsu she easily blocked racer. Her performance against os in the start of the arc was couple of tiers above natsu.
Again why did mishma do this if erza is same as natsu?
7) everyone trained. Only gildart was said not to need training. Only erza was the person who went through the entire gmg without a power up. Everyone else did train or got SO.
Laxus.pretty sure might have gone with raijinshu to train

You are confusing me
Pre ts jellal = pre ts laxus
7 years time skip jellal = pre ts laxus (still? if laxus didnt train)?

Impossible to tell. Laxus roar doesnt have as mush feats as GC
I rank in pre ts
GC > heaven wing > lightening dragon roar

Natsu was literally trembling after getting up from GC. GC was direct force hit. No extra effect was there like penetration effect of blomblatt
Blinded aria was easily above natsu. Full powered aria was one shot by wrecked erza heaven wings. Fully fresh erza heaven wings will be even more devastating. I obviously assume, that dormant power for pof and nothing else (consistent with fairy tail entire story). And stronger mages should have durability of that level.
Laxus dragon roar nearly took out natsu and gajeel. But the roar had an extra effect of lightening, they couldnt move thier bodies because of it.
8) yes it matters, because Minerva wasn't taken into consideration. What difference were in the two spells? I thought they were the same. And Minerva move was still hyped to be above it
9) not so easy.
Agreed gildarts have higher physical strength
But
Magical stemina goes to.lucy
Cheers
10) because he couldnt.
Fairy law is different and is not neasure of power
Cana cant produced even near the power she can get from fairy glitter
Same for ajeel. Laxus needed pof to kill wahl. Causal laxus isnt killing anyone. Jellal needed amped up to ko nienhart. But laxus can casually kill ajeel?

What do you mean? Can gmg erza give extreme high diff match to gmg jura ?
Lightening palace was most likely readied before. Laxus does not have aoe even near to destroy magnolia
Again why this confusion. Why not clearly show laxus and jellal stomping erza?

1) If a character doesn't have impressive feats, then they simply aren't that strong. To use Invel's example, Invel has the same Magic Power as the other Spriggans by hype, which I'll grant. But Invel's individual attacks are limited by the feats they show. I'm not giving Invel the attack power that Wall shows, or scaling his armor to be able to tank Wall's attack....merely by the basis that they're both Spriggans. If that were the case, every Spriggan should have equal attack power and durability. And they don't.

2) Red lightning is a mode. Laxus didn't need to invoke POF to use it last chapter, and he was fighting with it fairly casually.

3) August is more reliable than Ajeel. Shocker, I know. It doesn't matter if Ajeel's confidence wasn't shattered. He thought that he could solo Ishgar by himself. He lost to Elfman and Lisanna. He's overconfident.

4) Getting hit by a car doesn't change the durability of your body no. Heck, getting knocked out or choked out doesn't change your durability in real life either. Your body is still just as tough as it was, provided the car crash didn't break any of your bones or open up cuts on your body. In any case, Aria wasn't really bleeding from that cut and didn't break any bones....so, what exactly makes his body less tough than it was before?

5) So that means Natsu is stronger because he's the main character. That's an explanation for why he is stronger, not an argument for why he isn't stronger. Gray is Natsu's rival on a personal level, but in terms of feats...Natsu's are simply better. Even if he jobbed against Fukuro, he still had enough power left over to do everything he did against Jellal. Nobody ever takes the guild fight seriously, so they aren't an accurate measure of anyone's real fighting ability.

6) And Natsu was fighting Midnight when Racer attacked him. In any case, we've seen what Natsu was capable of against people stronger than Racer later in the arc when he fought Zero....It takes a lot more than what Racer did to take him out if he's going all out.

7) It was never stated that everyone trained. Certain people said they trained. Laxus was not one of them. Pre-timeskip Laxus and Jellal had equal amounts of magic power but Laxus had stronger spells, physical strength, and durability. It doesn't matter how much time had passed for Jellal if he was never stated to have trained, and still ends up needing to use his best attack to take out Jura. There's nothing to suggest that Jellal has surpassed Laxus over the time-skip. Jellal didn't have any spells on par with Fairy Law until he learned Sema. Laxus' roar was able to incapacitate Natsu and Gajeel for an entire chapter. They were incapacitated during the entire time he was casting Fairy Law. Natsu got right back up when Jellal hit him with Grand Chariot, and then went on tank a bunch of other attacks.

8) Minerva not having GMG card stats doesn't mean she wasn't taken into consideration when Mashima wrote the text he did for Orga's guild card in the chapter cover. The fact that the guild card cover was released after the GMG arc means that the reader should already know who Minerva is, and how strong she is. And Mashima still wrote that Orga is stronger.

9) Wait what? You think Lucy has higher magical stamina than GIldarts? Same Lucy that ran out of magic fighting Kain Hikaru? Same Gildarts that saved Natsu, Lucy and Cana after Fairy Glitter failed? Gildarts fought and beat stronger opponents than Lucy did. How is this in any way comparable to Laxus being in a better shape after fighting Jura than Erza was after fighting Minerva and Kagura? Even if you want to make the argument that main characters get preferential treament....Erza is the main character here, not Laxus.

10) Why wouldn't Fairy Law be a measure of power? Who says Fairy Glitter is as powerful as Fairy Law? Fairy Law is basically just a better version of Glitter. It hits everyone in the range of a city. Fairy Glitter just hits one person. But in any case, Laxus doesn't need a power-up to be able to use Fairy Law. He uses it with his own power.

• Erza after she released second origin can probably give Jura a high difficulty fight, yes. Erza without second origin released isn't on his level, and Jura would be able to take Erza and Mirajane in a 2v1.
• There's no reason to believe that Thunder Palace required any prep. Laxus always had city level AoE with Fairy Law, and which that's not direct destruction, it would have taken out everyone in Magnolia anyways....which is basically just as good.
• It's not really up to me to explain why Hiro didn't make Laxus fight Erza.

 

[Raven]

Gray had his power up in Tartarous, The rest got theirs in Alverz, Gray also got power ups in alverz that buffed his ice shell. Saying Gray is the only one who didn't get a power up is being deluded. Gray got pretty much the same treatment like anyone else.

Gray was never equal to Natsu in power, The only time he caught to Natsu in power was in Tartarous. He was ridiculously strong against demons while dragon slayers couldn't put a scratch on GMG dragons. He also got 2nd seal in GMG arc like Natsu. The power gap went off the chart after the timeskip.

Laxus was always considered as the 2nd/3rd strongest in the guild while Makarov was 2nd and Gildarts was 1st.

Natsu has everyone in the guild as his rivals not just Gray, Gray on the other hand consider Natsu as his rival.

 

[Ramen]

The same people accusing us of wanking Laxus are literally Wanking Erza because she landed a couple hits.

The hypocrisy is real.

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Natsu feats>>>Gray Feats

Natsu is far ahead of Gray. Deal with it.

The closest they ever were was in Tartaros and even then they were equal if anything

 

[Axiomus]

Aconologia is immune to magic, so tanked non magic gajeel punch. So his durability is below erza?

To chip in on this, Acnologia can tank a roar from Igneel without a scratch. That roar would oneshot any other character in the series except a god dragon and Zeref. Acnologia also tanked Igneel's tail whip, which is like tanking Irene's claw swipe.....Only Igneel is stronger than Irene and put his body weight into that attack. Mercphobia was able to tank attacks from the entire team even when they had the dragon slaying seal. Mercphobia was only at half strength when he fought the team, and he's not immune to magic. Acnologia is immune to magic, and scales to twice that level of strength. To top it all off, human Acnologia could tank Gajeel trying to stab him with his sword without even moving. So why exactly is his durability below Erza's?

 

[Raven]

If Erza beat Laxus, It won't be on 1 vs 1 scale. It would be on 2vs1 scale since she is using wendy's magic in addition to hers.

 

[Demon Hunter]

If Erza beat Laxus, It won't be on 1 vs 1 scale. It would be on 2vs1 scale since she is using wendy's magic in addition to hers.

that would be the case if it's temporarily like LFDM when Natsu first got it with all of Laxus' magic power but apparently Erza can use High Enchant because Wendy taught her that so it's permanent.

 

[Raven]

that would be the case if it's temporarily like LFDM when Natsu first got it with all of Laxus' magic power but apparently Erza can use High Enchant because Wendy taught her that so it's permanent.

I thought the teaching thing was iffy translation, no?

 

[Demon Hunter]

I thought the teaching thing was iffy translation, no?

it's the only one we got

we should ask @Kiki or @Axiomus for that

 

[Axiomus]

I thought the teaching thing was iffy translation, no?

The term used in Japanese was "passed down". I believe Zacky's team read that as transfer, whereas Sorcerer Weekly read that as "teaching". This is because, in certain contexts, "passed down" can be considered teaching. Like for martial arts, it's not uncommon to say that your skills was passed down from your master.

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No reason to assume it isn't permanent either way.

 

[Seven777]

BS
People have been constantly hating erza
Showing me one poll after having their hype shat on means nothing.
People have been hating for a long time. Even in discussion thread people are calling erza mary sue or pof queen even though laxus bigger mary sue. Poeple including you have been non stop excusing laxus bs.

he was riding on fan hype, nothing else. That is why he was ranked tier above erza, because of fan hype nothing else. Meanwhile erza was ranked natsu tier even though mishma protrayed exact opposite.
Too bad mishma had laxus face erza now. He doesn't seems to be above in speed hell he seems below in damage output, a guy who ranked a tier above erza got this much fuked by non serious erza lol


I remember after erza fuked up dragon irene
You retcon everything we knew about dragon slayers and said base dragon slayers should be stronger than their dragon counterpart.
Thats how people managed to get August beat to irene
Same way to keep laxus hype. Stronger mages can have far weaker durability now. Like maybe aria had better durability than jose.


Same reason laxus some how got to human irene tier

Wow.
So erza wasnt handicaped
Gajeel wasnt handicaped

And wahl himself didnt go full retarded
And laxus did not pull some else magic right out his a$$.

So taking out meridy or zancrow is more impressive than taking out bluenote black hole, interesting. Overpowering jura mt fugi is more impressive than taking out angel sister or rufus, interesting.

Same for.laxus. laxus cant do causally anything either. Thus his hype is pure bs. Now if laxus was amped up on pof and use his most strongest mve than yeah he might kill ajeel


It is not about who is stronger. We already know erza will win, like 90% chance. But people in their lack of hate for erza (assuming you are correct) put erza atleast a tier below laxus. There should be no chance for laxus to lose, he should have won, mid diff at most. Now people are worrying laxus will lose.
Why do you think their predictions were so wrong about laxus and erza power
Their prediction was laxus will fight jellal. And fodder erza will fight fodder mira


Gildarts used that arm because it was a away to cast holder type magic. Does it has to be gildarts strongest magic? Sorry lacarde casually blocked kagura with two.fingers. irene easily took enhanced erza charged to head, with complete distraction.

Laxus performance isnt anything to speak of, he needed severe plot nonsense to win. Laxus couldnt even kill natsu causally in ff arc, he couldnt even knock him out. Hades couldnt kill wndy or lucy causally, his non serious moves didnt even knock them.out. jellal had to use like his strongest or second strongest move to kill Simon. Even jellal couldnt casually kill nienhart
But ofcourse now laxus can causally kill springgans. Did he even kill that demon gate?

• Alternatively you've been crying over nothing and people treat Erza and Laxus the appropriately. As for the Mary Sue thing, Erza simply does it more.
• Was riding on manga hype, which he then lived up to a few chapters later.
• 1 year timeskip, it makes a difference. And like I said, we'll see who's stronger soon.
• What are you talking about? No one said human dragons are stronger than their dragon selves.
• Obviously August beats Eileen, he's the most powerful spriggan, he says so himself.
• Stronger mages having lower durability is an argument that came before the Erza vs Laxus fight started. In fact the two of us even discussed it earlier.
• Erza/Gajeel were handicapped. I'm the guy who first argued Marin and Ajeel being immune to swords fucked Erza over, you got that point from me.
• Zeref killing Zancrow is as good as breaking the Black Hole, sure. Killing Minerva in a single strike would be more impressive than breaking Mt Fuji, sure
• Nah, he can casually kill Ajeel, as August said
• Assuming I'm correct is a good way to go, as for putting Erza a tier below Laxus, that's the portrayal. Laxus will prob win and he'll prob fight Jelly.
• Kinda does have to be Gildart's strongest magic, one reason is it busted his arm, but the main reason is because he thought the attack would beat August, which means Gildart's thought it was August tier+. Plus Gildart's is FT's strongest member, so he defaults powerful til proven otherwise.
• Laxus' performance has always been top notch, which is why he's viewed as so powerful.

 

[LaGOAT]

@sharkai how can u accept that gildartz is the strongest in the guild but can’t accept that orga was the strongest in his guild at that time both were statements in the manga

 

[sharkai]

@sharkai how can u accept that gildartz is the strongest in the guild but can’t accept that orga was the strongest in his guild at that time both were statements in the guild

Because Minerva was the strongest. He was strongest before Minerva was introduced

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• Alternatively you've been crying over nothing and people treat Erza and Laxus the appropriately. As for the Mary Sue thing, Erza simply does it more.
• Was riding on manga hype, which he then lived up to a few chapters later.
• 1 year timeskip, it makes a difference. And like I said, we'll see who's stronger soon.
• What are you talking about? No one said human dragons are stronger than their dragon selves.
• Obviously August beats Eileen, he's the most powerful spriggan, he says so himself.
• Stronger mages having lower durability is an argument that came before the Erza vs Laxus fight started. In fact the two of us even discussed it earlier.
• Erza/Gajeel were handicapped. I'm the guy who first argued Marin and Ajeel being immune to swords fucked Erza over, you got that point from me.
• Zeref killing Zancrow is as good as breaking the Black Hole, sure. Killing Minerva in a single strike would be more impressive than breaking Mt Fuji, sure
• Nah, he can casually kill Ajeel, as August said
• Assuming I'm correct is a good way to go, as for putting Erza a tier below Laxus, that's the portrayal. Laxus will prob win and he'll prob fight Jelly.
• Kinda does have to be Gildart's strongest magic, one reason is it busted his arm, but the main reason is because he thought the attack would beat August, which means Gildart's thought it was August tier+. Plus Gildart's is FT's strongest member, so he defaults powerful til proven otherwise.
• Laxus' performance has always been top notch, which is why he's viewed as so powerful.

I wasnt even here for a year man. So i definitely did not cry in that year

Laxus mary sue is just glossed over

When did he ever lived up to it. He just what everyone else was doing

The reason why you said august beat irene is because august can copy irene or serena dragon slayer magic. But August cant dragonize, irene can.
Basically that time and i guess even now, people think any dragon slayer can slay irene dragon form

Lower durability argument came up due laxus hype and ajeel giving erza a high diff fight. Though alot of people at the time was on board on the thought that laxus can causally one shot erza now.

So only laxus can do that. Why couldnt jellal do that. Why couldnt even natsu or his END form do that, you know kill a springgan causally.

Good luck with beatun up laxus vs fresh jellal (while both on WW team)
What portrayal, the one where markrov thought erza could take laxus, or jellal thought erza could take zero, or when jellal wondered who would win erza or him. Or pre ts erza being around a WS tier before first time skip and jura being the weakest WS. Or pre ts erza taking out s class monster (also WS tier) plus 99 other monsters, or pre ts erza and kagura moving so fast that even markarov couldnt follow. Or the god war spell even jura was shocked had no effect on pre ts erza and kagura

All i know laxus portrayal above erza only exists because people have to ignore the above


You know, hate against erza is pretty normal here and love of laxus is too. Even other forums used to say that.
And it resulted some stuffs that could easily be seen.
Remember gmg
Everyone got so or three months training. But erza didnt. People were like now natsu and gray are approaching laxus. Laxus is approaching gildarts. And mira was approaching erza.
Poor erza, a main ignored

It happened in Alvarez too. After ajeel fight everyone was like this erza limit. They were talking about GOI come back or serena being tiers above ajeel. It was indeed very amusing
Now your prediction about laxus beating erza and fighting jellal. Lets see what happens

 

[Demon Hunter]

What portrayal, the one where markrov thought erza could take laxus, or jellal thought erza could take zero, or when jellal wondered who would win erza or him. Or pre ts erza being around a WS tier before first time skip and jura being the weakest WS. Or pre ts erza taking out s class monster (also WS tier) plus 99 other monsters, or pre ts erza and kagura moving so fast that even markarov couldnt follow. Or the god war spell even jura was shocked had no effect on pre ts erza and kagura

that's because Erza is the strongest on Team Natsu (at least she was) so Makarov having hopes for her to beat Laxus isn't out of ordinary.

not all S class mages or monsters are on the same level. Makarov was surprised by Sting and Rogue (Gray was surprised as well) lol but they got dusted by base Natsu. Makarov is slow and old so being surprised at someone's speed doesn't mean much.

Now your prediction about laxus beating erza and fighting jellal. Lets see what happens

at this point, I doubt we are gonna get Jellal vs Laxus.

 

[Ebony Maw]

not all S class mages or monsters are on the same level.

Hell, just look at S-Class at the beginning of the series - Laxus, Mystogan, Erza and Mira (pretty sure Gildarts is S-Class too, which really highlights how lightly titles should be valued). None of them were really on par tbh, FF presented it pretty clearly that Laxus was the strongest by far. And going from how Mystogan put everyone bar Laxus to sleep, he was the next one down. Erza and Mira can be argued.

But yeah, titles in FT should ALWAYS be scrutinised. Surprised it has to be said after the Wizard Saint/Spriggan fiascoes.

at this point, I doubt we are gonna get Jellal vs Laxus.

Really hope not, since if it happens any time soon the result would be awful IMO. Either Jellal wins low-diff (or better) and the debate of who is stronger continues to rage, or Laxus somehow puts up a decent fight and Jellal's hype dies forever. A fight between them needs to happen when they are both relatively fresh, anything else is near pointless.

 

[Jko]

I will give @sharkai one thing, y'all due hate on Erza for the things Laxus has done or just did.

No one called learning Freed's Rune magic an asspull and no one called Red Lightning an asspull while Erza gets harped on for every little thing she pulls out even if she is in a fight and not using PoF.

 

[Demon Hunter]

I will give @sharkai one thing, y'all due hate on Erza for the things Laxus has done or just did.

No one called learning Freed's Rune magic an asspull and no one called Red Lightning an asspull while Erza gets harped on for every little thing she pulls out even if she is in a fight and not using PoF.

Red Lightning was definitely labeled as an asspull.

Runes make more sense IMO.

 

[Jko]

Nah Laxus is wanked beyond belief. Y'all thought he was going to scrub Erza bcs he beat her up in her garbo armor and then got shocked bcs they are equals.

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Red Lightning was definitely labeled as an asspull.

Runes make more sense IMO.

Not until this chapter lol.

Yes, but Erza learned how to do High Enchant the same way Laxus learned how to do Rune magic yet one is an asspull and the other is not. It's funny bcs they are both enchantments.

 

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Not until this chapter lol.

it was. you can go back and check on that part of the forum if you like (on Reddit as well).

it got some clarifications now but a bit too late.

Yes, but Erza learned how to do High Enchant the same way Laxus learned how to do Rune magic yet one is an asspull and the other is not. It's funny bcs they are both enchantments.

High Enchant is/was labeled as an ass pull but Wendy's because we thought she enchanted it during the fight or moments before but since it was clarified that Wendy taught her, it's not really an ass pull per say.