Yeah, better wait. Then we can vote how many tiers above Erza Laxus is. We can start conservatively at 2. Unless he loses, then we can vote on excuses for why he's still strongerhm hard to place that since there is no enemy that can match them
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or should we wait after Laxus vs Erza fight???
I remember we had Natsu' Savage Flames as a poll once![]()

Wait, Minerva was the strongest in Sabertooth, right? I remember, before Minerva, Erza, and Kagura started their three-way battle, Rufus said that apart from being the daughter of their guild master, Minerva was also the strongest wizard in Sabertooth, even stronger than Sting and Rogue combined and also, when I looked up on Minerva’s profile in Fairy Tail wiki, it says, “Minerva is reckoned as the STRONGEST MEMBER of Sabertooth,” while Orga’s profile in wiki says, “He is ONE OF THE FIVE STRONGEST in Sabertooth” so I think it was clearly implied even in the manga that Minerva was the strongest member of Sabertooth in GMG, though I don’t know up until now if she’s still the strongest, because they don’t have recent feats. BTW these are the links to Minerva’s and Orga’s profile on Fairy Tail wiki: https://fairytail.fandom.com/wiki/Minerva_Orland https://fairytail.fandom.com/wiki/Orga_Nanagear@sharkai how can u accept that gildartz is the strongest in the guild but can’t accept that orga was the strongest in his guild at that timeboth were statements in the manga
Thats Referring to Alvarez but Orga had a stat card come out after the GMG that called him the strongestWait, Minerva was the strongest in Sabertooth, right? I remember, before Minerva, Erza, and Kagura started their three-way battle, Rufus said that apart from being the daughter of their guild master, Minerva was also the strongest wizard in Sabertooth, even stronger than Sting and Rogue combined and also, when I looked up on Minerva’s profile in Fairy Tail wiki, it says, “Minerva is reckoned as the STRONGEST MEMBER of Sabertooth,” while Orga’s profile in wiki says, “He is ONE OF THE FIVE STRONGEST in Sabertooth” so I think it was clearly implied even in the manga that Minerva was the strongest member of Sabertooth in GMG, though I don’t know up until now if she’s still the strongest, because they don’t have recent feats. BTW these are the links to Minerva’s and Orga’s profile on Fairy Tail wiki: https://fairytail.fandom.com/wiki/Minerva_Orland https://fairytail.fandom.com/wiki/Orga_Nanagear
The argument being made is based on thisWait, Minerva was the strongest in Sabertooth, right? I remember, before Minerva, Erza, and Kagura started their three-way battle, Rufus said that apart from being the daughter of their guild master, Minerva was also the strongest wizard in Sabertooth, even stronger than Sting and Rogue combined and also, when I looked up on Minerva’s profile in Fairy Tail wiki, it says, “Minerva is reckoned as the STRONGEST MEMBER of Sabertooth,” while Orga’s profile in wiki says, “He is ONE OF THE FIVE STRONGEST in Sabertooth” so I think it was clearly implied even in the manga that Minerva was the strongest member of Sabertooth in GMG, though I don’t know up until now if she’s still the strongest, because they don’t have recent feats. BTW these are the links to Minerva’s and Orga’s profile on Fairy Tail wiki: https://fairytail.fandom.com/wiki/Minerva_Orland https://fairytail.fandom.com/wiki/Orga_Nanagear
Ajeel's sand magic straight up countered Erza's magic. Ajeel stat wise isn't above Erza at all, he was just a better matchup.Above Gray? MAYBE
Above NATSU? HELL NO. I'm sure that full power Natsu is currently the strongest member of Fairy Tail, including Gildarts. Natsu got leagues ahead of everyone by the end of Alverez arc
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Why? Because Laxus was about to absolute wreck Ajeel, while Erza would've lost without help
Ajeel's magic counters everyone. He is intangible unless he wishes to make himself tangible. To defeat his sand storm, a bigger AOE is needed. Laxus can do that with his nuke.Ajeel's sand magic straight up countered Erza's magic. Ajeel stat wise isn't above Erza at all, he was just a better matchup.
They were barely standing as well bro.Yes he was fodderized, he couldn't stand up while they were there talking about how they were siblings. His Grandpa had to beg for his life. Plot.......all of Alvarez is plot deal it with.
Wqsn't Minerva out of the guild at the time? Could also be the reason he is title the strongest.The argument being made is based on thisnot the wiki.![]()
Rufus does say she's the strongest though. It just comes down to who you believe, Mashima or Rufus.
Dunno. I just take it to mean Orga has the most raw power, which was already confirmed by Lector in GMG. Minerva has hax that makes her the most dangerous, even if she isn't strictly the most "powerful"Wqsn't Minerva out of the guild at the time? Could also be the reason he is title the strongest.
Ajeel isn't intangible without Sand storm & Iirc he doesn't become intangible. He just freely moves through the sand.Ajeel's magic counters everyone. He is intangible unless he wishes to make himself tangible. To defeat his sand storm, a bigger AOE is needed. Laxus can do that with his nuke.
Yeah I agree that stats wise Erza > Ajeel. But overall Ajeel > (Alverez) Erza
Elfman tanked Lucy’s trump card so I don’t understand how he’s so far behind her??? Lucy literally showed us she’d have a hard time dealing with him in a battle.FT Rankings:
Natsu
Gildarts
Laxus
Erza
Gray
Gajeel/Mirajane
Lucy/Wendy/Makarov
Freed
Bicklow
Evergreen
Elfman
Rest don't matter
Elfman is so low because logically everyone ahead of him should be able to defeat him in a legit one on one battle without plot intervening. Also all his takeovers seem to be only physical types.
Overall though certain characters powers are clearly mishandled by Hiro in the current arc versus what we have seen from them in previous arcs and information we have on them. Logically Freed should be way higher on the list with his rune magic and what we have seen him do with it. We have seen him create a barrier over all of Magnolia, trap wizard saint level mages behind barriers, stop people from using magic, create rules that stop people from leaving a certain area without following his rules, he has even been able to cause people immense pain with a word and even potential death with a word. He even has some powerful demonic forms.
Even with Wendy. Her ability to go dragon force, combined with her healing power and Enchantments should allow much more power than what we currently see. Mind you during Alveraz she did block a full powered Attack from Chrono's Dimaria. So her defensive magic should allow her to protect herself against anyone with Dimaria level attacks or below and we seen in Dragon force she is exceptionally fast and strong. Her enchantments to increase her power should boost all those attributes.
With Lucy we know Gemini can mimic her gold keys and the properties of them when he transforms into her as we see this in his earlier appearances. There is no on panel/on screen or logical reason Gemini transformed into Lucy can't summon the CSK. Although honestly most of Lucy's spirits and Stardress are underutilized.

How is Lucy and Wendy below Freed, Bixlow or Evergreen??? Even Cana would smash Bixlow or Ever with FG. Freed might survive it or stop it but the other two are donezo.Since power levels back to normal
Gildartz
Laxus![]()
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Erza
Natsu/mira
Gajeel/Gray
Freed
Evergreen
Bixclow
Lucy
Wendy
Cana
The rest
IDK where to put makarov anymore he just hasn’t shown feats since tenrou island arc
Hax FF arcHow is Lucy and Wendy below Freed, Bixlow or Evergreen??? Even Cana would smash Bixlow or Ever with FG. Freed might survive it or stop it but the other two are donezo.
Say what now? Whatever has happened in the past chapters that have suggested that Natsu and Mirajane are now equals?Since power levels back to normal
Gildartz
Laxus![]()
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Erza
Natsu/mira
Gajeel/Gray
Freed
Evergreen
Bixclow
Lucy
Wendy
Cana
The rest
IDK where to put makarov anymore he just hasn’t shown feats since tenrou island arc
Mira hype is unstoppableSay what now? Whatever has happened in the past chapters that have suggested that Natsu and Mirajane are now equals?
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