Ajeel was not in a position to block or dodge when she used it, so it would be a one hit miss under normal conditions, then can you say what you said about zeref is true? That would mean speculations too. Natsu used Savage Flames against FH Zeref Which would be his strongest fire and that did not kill him, like with IG fire, we would not know since Natsu got rid of it, END Natsu was not completely transformed and thus was not at full power, IDS magic counters Demons, Erza was already hurt from his fire which she normally brushed off, Cobra’s mind reading is not the same as Larcade’s magic which is something that affects sensations that were already in use, besides Cobra was attempting it on Acno’s mind self so it would not have worked anyway.
Ur not getting it if erza Fought ajeel 1v1 she will win simple. With no restriction from erza. Nakamgami armor negated magic and would oneshot ajeel. I think zeref is fodder honestly I don’t highly rate him and what he says if it’s consistent to the story then I’ll beleive him not all statements are true Is my point. exactly ur proving my point SF/base>ig/DF>END. U beleive that wasn’t he final form vs gray I beleive it was so it’s my word vs your word but what’s facts is end couldn’t down neither gray nor erza. I already counter ur argument with mard geer>tartaros gray despite having advantage so that logic is flawed. Ok erza got damage I don’t see ur point there? Erza is a tank we have seen her get damaged many times. lacarde wouldn’t work simply acno is acno Immunity to magic.
Yet she didn’t, she needed outside help. Nakagami armor is as much a problem if she misses As it drains her magic, she can’t hit him unless he is in a position to not react or dodge, and Sand World is worse as she can’t hit what she can’t see. As far as we have seen, almost anything is speculative with him, except, IG/DF< END as it is strongly suggested. Gray had powers that basically counters incomplete END Natsu, and Erza was still harmed by their attacks But did not even continued fighting. Gray was about to solo Mard Geer, and even ended him at the end. If she is damaged then she would not no sold their attacks, he is not immune to sleep or eating or poss sex, that is what Larcade’s magic affects, it is like with Sting, he is immune to white magic, but Larcade’s magic affected Sting’s hunger and sleep because he experienced both in his life.
Sure, doesn't change the fact that DF Natsu has lived up to his hype more than any villain in the manga, at least recently.
Strongest spriggan, sure, but spriggans are just the small fish of the arc. Acno was the canon top, followed by FH Zeref. As for Jellal and Co getting back up, doesn't detract from his hype in the slightest, he won, totally and completely, the whole scene was specifically designed to prove he was a monster. People get up all the time, the entirety of team Natsu got back up after getting wrecked by Zero, doesn't mean Zero didn't wreck their asses. Same with FT against Abyssal Hades before the tree even came back, and that was like 2 minutes later, 2 seconds in Natsu's case lol, doesn't change the fact that Hades wrecked their asses. As for why the GoI don't get back up, that's obvious, they're not relevant enough.
As for if August can take out Erza, course he can, in fact he probably takes out Erza and Wendy at the same time. As for attack power feat, if he can down Jellal and co, he can down Erza and Wendy, piercing Mira and Gildarts also means he can pierce Erza. That aside, even if he lost, there are less users of holder magic than there are dragon slayers lol, significantly less, and if we're talking about competent holder mages, then there is only two, Gildarts and Erza, so Eileen's "dragon hax" is significantly more situational than August's.
you mean to tell me august took out combatant in a war in such way that they would have come back in an hour two and beat some springgans lol.
brain exploded but natsu was protected somewhat
hades was in mid fight, he didnt finish the fight
august literally took them out and they came back little while later. if this was start of the war. jellal and co might have actually taken couple of springgans out after few moments of getting wrecked by august.
see this is what i mean by giving feats. jellal durability and endurance is no where near erza. he has no protection magic against holder type magic. august beat jellal because of magical advantage nothing more. he doesnt have that with erza.
even then you say this
that lol says it all. ds users should be much less that holder type mages. but mishma
all wendy did is give natsu all the DS MP to down acno she wasnt trade blows with acno unlike irene. well imo u just need DS magic to damage dragon irene thats not a problem i mean wendy and erza was able to put damage on human irene so doesnt matter. alot of people has pushed acnologia in the series he just a lightweight simple plus he didnt receive any damage anyways so.....
august suicide spell was to kill every1 in the city not just gildartz. cana cards didnt do any damage either. ya cuz he was off guard thats like saying brandish durability is trash cuz cana onehsotted her
august perform better than irene i gave u his accolades his accolades are better than irene. anything irene throws at him he simply copying/negating
ok and?
brandish is a hax mage
natsu is a brute close combat mage.
but we know natsu>brandish so it doesnt matter. at the end of the day the type of mage you are shouldnt matter as much if your using it for combat.
you mean wendy basically created that move. techinically she should still be able to do that without natsu being there
cana cards were hurting august if you dont remember.
irene was only harmed when she wasnt paying attention. wendy hit her when she was having her first discussion with erza. erza slammed her enhanced sword on her head when she was having lewd thoughts about a loli. dragon irene was hurt when irene was in state of shock finding out that you dont need to actually turn into a ds to hurt dragon, and all horrifying transformation thing (basically wendy did what igneel, grandeeni and belserion never thought of). at no point did erza herself hurt irene.
do you think dragon irene can kill herself with a casual swipe of claw?
suicide spell, seriously , you are reaching man. gray with his suicide spell can take out zeref. who knows, maybe irene can blow the entire world up with her own suicide spell.
you know irene was off guard as hell when enhanced erza smashed her sword on irene head.
i dont know about accolades. august has never negated nor copied anyone on irene tier.
erza was the only one who did that to rot acnologia. other people were screaming their head off about it coming mangnolia or something. if gildarts, jellal or GOI could have done that they would have. 100 year quest erza would really damage that aconologia, only reason he wasnt hurt was because you cant bypass dragin scale without ds (that is dragon hax) (that is how she hurt dragon irene)
no it does matter. the reason natsu is above brandish is because you are ignoring her hax. for some reason brandish hax isnt working on natsu. in that case it doesnt matter if natsu is fighting brandish or jason the cool guy, they both get same treatment. give brandish her hax, she even takes out current df natsu.
you mean to tell me august took out combatant in a war in such way that they would have come back in an hour two and beat some springgans lol.
brain exploded but natsu was protected somewhat
hades was in mid fight, he didnt finish the fight
august literally took them out and they came back little while later. if this was start of the war. jellal and co might have actually taken couple of springgans out after few moments of getting wrecked by august.
see this is what i mean by giving feats. jellal durability and endurance is no where near erza. he has no protection magic against holder type magic. august beat jellal because of magical advantage nothing more. he doesnt have that with erza.
even then you say this
that lol says it all. ds users should be much less that holder type mages. but mishma
Yep, if you're relevant to the story you're allowed to come back, simple as that.
Hades finished the fight, Team Natsu was on the ground the entirety of the Natsu and Laxus battle, Laxus was on the ground the entirety of the Natsu battle, Natsu literally stated he was done after Hades revealed his full power, and yet every single one of them got back up. Same with Zero who's fight was completely over. Getting back up doesn't detract from feats, either you win, or you dont, Mashima will literally bring a character back from the dead if he wants them for the story lol.
It doesn't matter what they do when they get back up, as long as August cleanly won, it's all good.
That's rich, saying that after you claimed that August doesn't have an attack power feat to put down Erza, you realize thats the exact same thing don't you? "Giving feats" as you put it. After all, what exactly has Alvarez Erza tanked? Some hits from Wendy, some hits from preskip fodder and some hits from Ajeel. She hasn't tanked anything that suggests her durability is "above August's attack power", the only good hit she's taken is Eileen's claw swipe and do you know why we rank that hit good? Because it literally broke all of Erza's bones lol. Ajeel has the attack power to put down Erza, August obviously does too, I'm not going to assume Erza's durability is too good for August because she got all her bones busted from a single swipe of August's equal.
Should be, but they're not, so you're argument of "August is just a cheat" applies much more to Eileen than it does to August.
Yep, if you're relevant to the story you're allowed to come back, simple as that.
Hades finished the fight, Team Natsu was on the ground the entirety of the Natsu and Laxus battle, Laxus was on the ground the entirety of the Natsu battle, Natsu literally stated he was done after Hades revealed his full power, and yet every single one of them got back up. Same with Zero who's fight was completely over. Getting back up doesn't detract from feats, either you win, or you dont, Mashima will literally bring a character back from the dead if he wants them for the story lol.
It doesn't matter what they do when they get back up, as long as August cleanly won, it's all good.
That's rich, saying that after you claimed that August doesn't have an attack power feat to put down Erza, you realize thats the exact same thing don't you? "Giving feats" as you put it. After all, what exactly has Alvarez Erza tanked? Some hits from Wendy, some hits from preskip fodder and some hits from Ajeel. She hasn't tanked anything that suggests her durability is "above August's attack power", the only good hit she's taken is Eileen's claw swipe and do you know why we rank that hit good? Because it literally broke all of Erza's bones lol. Ajeel has the attack power to put down Erza, August obviously does too, I'm not going to assume Erza's durability is too good for August because she got all her bones busted from a single swipe of August's equal.
Should be, but they're not, so you're argument of "August is just a cheat" applies much more to Eileen than it does to August.
yeah cheat thing applies to both august and irene.
so you are telling me, if laxus didnt come, team natsu would have given another round to hades half hour later. or hades would kill them.
it matter in a sense that august didnt hurt them much
nope. erza has feats (this is kind of like how gajeel has feats and aria doesnt).
you cant name one attack of august with sound backing that will actually do much to erza at all. i am not saying august cant hurt erza, i am saying august would be dead, well before erza gives up.
this is from your old point, i am taking august only magic (because it doesnt apply to erza) and he is still irene tier? before you were saying something else no? dimeria get low diff when her hax is removed, why isnt same applying to august?
yeah cheat thing applies to both august and irene.
so you are telling me, if laxus didnt come, team natsu would have given another round to hades half hour later. or hades would kill them.
it matter in a sense that august didnt hurt them much
nope. erza has feats (this is kind of like how gajeel has feats and aria doesnt).
you cant name one attack of august with sound backing that will actually do much to erza at all. i am not saying august cant hurt erza, i am saying august would be dead, well before erza gives up.
this is from your old point, i am taking august only magic (because it doesnt apply to erza) and he is still irene tier? before you were saying something else no? dimeria get low diff when her hax is removed, why isnt same applying to august?
Nope, they'd be dead, because unlike August for whatever reason, Hades prob would have finished them off. But if youre asking if Hades decided to leave them lying there on his ship, left and came back half an hour later, would team Natsu be ready to fight him again? Yeah, obviously, you could give them 15 minutes and they'd be good to go, that's literally what happened with Zero.
Sure, she has feats, they're just not good enough to suggests August couldnt put her down
What are you talking about? August doesn't need one attack, no one is saying August one shots Erza, he would put her down after a series of attacks like Ajeel or Laxus.
Because take away Eileen's dragon hax with DS advantage, and Erza still couldn't win and I'd argue Eileen's vulnerability to DS magic is much greater than August's to holder magic. That aside, take away August hax against Gildarts, and Gildarts still couldn't win too. I say August has no feats outside his hax, but the reality was, even without it, he still couldn't be beaten. You could say that unlike Gildarts, Erza would be good with this the whole fight, and you'd be right, however Gildarts only landed 2 other attacks in his fight, one August arguably let happen, is 2 additional attacks gonna be enough for Gildarts to beat August? I don't know, maybe, but Erza is no Gildarts. That being said, yeah, you may be right, I could be giving August too much credit here, maybe she has a shot.
Yet she didn’t, she needed outside help. Nakagami armor is as much a problem if she misses As it drains her magic, she can’t hit him unless he is in a position to not react or dodge, and Sand World is worse as she can’t hit what she can’t see. As far as we have seen, almost anything is speculative with him, except, IG/DF< END as it is strongly suggested. Gray had powers that basically counters incomplete END Natsu, and Erza was still harmed by their attacks But did not even continued fighting. Gray was about to solo Mard Geer, and even ended him at the end. If she is damaged then she would not no sold their attacks, he is not immune to sleep or eating or poss sex, that is what Larcade’s magic affects, it is like with Sting, he is immune to white magic, but Larcade’s mai gic affected Sting’s hunger and sleep because he experienced both in his life.
didnt i say she was restricted? i repeat in a 1v1 battle no restriction she win. again nakagami armor negated sandworld and will proceed to onehsot him afterwords ajeel reaction speed isnt that great as he was down by elfman and lisanna who erza can beat both. show me feats that END>IG/DF until then ur just using headcanon. yes gray was trashing base mard geer not full powered mard geer was my point. bro what are u talking about erza got damaged ok but she we know erza to be a tank she endure pain lol. she tanked endure irene attacks unless u believe that end and gray>irene then ur just starting another debate.
sting is immune to white magic. acno is immune to magic in general. lacrade is using magic there it isnt gonna work on him
you mean to tell me august took out combatant in a war in such way that they would have come back in an hour two and beat some springgans lol.
brain exploded but natsu was protected somewhat
hades was in mid fight, he didnt finish the fight
august literally took them out and they came back little while later. if this was start of the war. jellal and co might have actually taken couple of springgans out after few moments of getting wrecked by august.
see this is what i mean by giving feats. jellal durability and endurance is no where near erza. he has no protection magic against holder type magic. august beat jellal because of magical advantage nothing more. he doesnt have that with erza.
even then you say this
that lol says it all. ds users should be much less that holder type mages. but mishma
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you mean wendy basically created that move. techinically she should still be able to do that without natsu being there
cana cards were hurting august if you dont remember.
irene was only harmed when she wasnt paying attention. wendy hit her when she was having her first discussion with erza. erza slammed her enhanced sword on her head when she was having lewd thoughts about a loli. dragon irene was hurt when irene was in state of shock finding out that you dont need to actually turn into a ds to hurt dragon, and all horrifying transformation thing (basically wendy did what igneel, grandeeni and belserion never thought of). at no point did erza herself hurt irene.
do you think dragon irene can kill herself with a casual swipe of claw?
suicide spell, seriously , you are reaching man. gray with his suicide spell can take out zeref. who knows, maybe irene can blow the entire world up with her own suicide spell.
you know irene was off guard as hell when enhanced erza smashed her sword on irene head.
i dont know about accolades. august has never negated nor copied anyone on irene tier.
erza was the only one who did that to rot acnologia. other people were screaming their head off about it coming mangnolia or something. if gildarts, jellal or GOI could have done that they would have. 100 year quest erza would really damage that aconologia, only reason he wasnt hurt was because you cant bypass dragin scale without ds (that is dragon hax) (that is how she hurt dragon irene)
no it does matter. the reason natsu is above brandish is because you are ignoring her hax. for some reason brandish hax isnt working on natsu. in that case it doesnt matter if natsu is fighting brandish or jason the cool guy, they both get same treatment. give brandish her hax, she even takes out current df natsu.
ok but i dont see ur point here it isnt like wendy can trade blows acno like she did with irene.
he received no damaged from her cards is my point
uh bro yes she was https://manga-fairytail.com/manga/fairy-tail-chapter-516/
dragon irene she was confident that erza attack wouldnt hurt her till she said a injured base wendy DS magic can hurt her. so yes DS magic can put damage her. erza hurt human irene reread the chapter above.
no but she will get damaged.
what it not a suicide spell? i mean i dont get what u mean. cool story with what feat tho?
i wasnt talking about that feat.
cuz they know they cant beat him. if u can push acnologia to me that not much of a feat cuz he is lightweight. lol except acno>dragon irene his durablity>>>>>her.
how am i ignoring her hax? how u gonna tell me lol natsu speedblitz her endgame. lol brandish magic wouldnt even work on df natsu in fact natsu dont need that to beat her is my point.
She was not restricted by her movements, she would still miss under normal conditions, she could do that by hitting Ajeel, Ajeel reacted to practically all of Erza’s attacks, she could only land solid hits On him after he was distracted or not able to dodge. Elfman could take hits from Natsu and has a sand form that counters sand attacks. For one, IG power reacts violently to Spriggans, indicating on how powerful they were, while with, and yet Gray trashed Mard Geer at full power too, that is my point. Erza’s fire pants forsakes durability for attack, she would still be wounded regardless, END at least is stronger than Irene as he can kill Zeref. Acno and Sting are not immune to hunger and sleep, that is what Larcade’s magic affects, he bypasses their initial immunity and affects what they are not.
Like I said, anything on how strong END would be at full power is merely speculation. The END we saw stalemated Gray. There's a huge gap between the power necessary to stalemate Gray, and the power necessary for killing Zeref. END has shown us nothing to suggest he can even overpower Zeref in combat, let alone do what flames of savage emotions failed to do.
END's power runs on Natsu's negative emotions. When Natsu thought of his friendship with Erza and Gray, END's power simply dissipated. END is actually a nerf to Natsu. It makes Natsu go on a wild rampage, preventing him from using his best spells and cuts him off from his greatest source of power (his feelings for the guild). The proof is in the feats: DF Natsu's demolition fist can vaporize Zeref's body. Flames of Emotions at it's peak allows Demolition Fist to overpower Fairy Heart. Natsu's new secret art can blow a hole in Aldoron's back. END's enraged attack was snubbed by Erza, who suffered superficial burns from them at best.
Speaking of Erza, using Nakagami doesn't exhaust Erza in one hit. Nakagami Starlight is a finisher, but Erza can slash around with Nakagami to simply dispel attacks like she did with Minerva. Erza didn't run out of MP after fighting Ajeel either. She was simply injured. She went on to fight Neinhart, and even though her body was still too injured to continue fighting, she still flexed enough magic power to scare Neinhart.
I doubt it as many have confirmed that END is a genuine threat to Zeref. That was incomplete END fighting a Gray that counters his power Hard. Plus there is hax that END bypasses god powers. Curses is just another source of emotions too which makes the user strong too. That does not kill Zeref though, even his greatest power fails. Zeref is stronger than Aldoron. Erza would not stop a full power END, yet she charged at Ajeel instead of using it on Sand World, meaning that she had to hit him, Erza still lost. She missed every hit when Ajeel was not distract or incapable of defending
Zeref has never said that END could kill him. And actually, Zeref agreed with Natsu when the latter said that Igneel could crush END with a toe. So really, any version of Natsu stronger than Igneel's toe is stronger than END. Only person that thought END could kill Zeref was Mard Geer, and Mard also thought that he could kill Zeref too. He had no clue what was going on.
Natsu's flames of savage emotions comes from his love for the guild. It beat to Zeref turning all the darkness in his heart into power, plus Fairy Heart's infinite power. END's power just comes from the grief Natsu had over Lucy's death, which honestly pales in comparison to Zeref's negative emotions. Natsu's love for his guild > Zeref's negative emotions > Natsu's negative emotion.
Aldoron is on Acnologia's level, who is far stronger than Zeref. One of Aldoron's seeds can already clone Zeref and copy all of his powers.
Zeref was speculative about whether Natsu with Igneel’a power could do it, but with END he was hoping for his resurrection, he would say that because END has not awakened then. As well as the Spriggan and Zeref About END being able to defeat him, which is in turn turned into curse power which is What give flames of emotion more power. Zeref disproved that when he was going to kill Aldoron.
The "story thus far" section confirms that Natsu and Zeref both would have died had Natsu used the final attack. This is the author telling us that the attack would have killed both Zeref. And Zeref's entire plan for suicide was for Igneel to train Natsu to become strong enough to kill him. He was banking on Igneel's power the entire time. Zeref never hoped for END's resurrection. In fact, he told Natsu during the Tartaros arc that he hoped that he would face Natsu instead of END.
Ankhseram's curse began hurting Aldoron because the Wolfen God seed considered Aldoron to be precious. The real Zeref doesn't care about Aldoron, so the curse would never trigger. The real Zeref can't kill, or even seriously injure, Aldoron. Even if Zeref started caring about Aldoron and managed to get the curse to trigger, he still can't beat Aldoron. When Zeref starts caring about life, he becomes so weak that even Ultear can beat him in combat. Aldoron would impale him with his thorns and knock him out before the curse kills him.
She was not restricted by her movements, she would still miss under normal conditions, she could do that by hitting Ajeel, Ajeel reacted to practically all of Erza’s attacks, she could only land solid hits On him after he was distracted or not able to dodge. Elfman could take hits from Natsu and has a sand form that counters sand attacks. For one, IG power reacts violently to Spriggans, indicating on how powerful they were, while with, and yet Gray trashed Mard Geer at full power too, that is my point. Erza’s fire pants forsakes durability for attack, she would still be wounded regardless, END at least is stronger than Irene as he can kill Zeref. Acno and Sting are not immune to hunger and sleep, that is what Larcade’s magic affects, he bypasses their initial immunity and affects what they are not.
restricted from equipping is what i talking about at the beginning of the fight. when she wasnt she was able to hurt ajeel. ajeel was only distracted from one hit. the rest was when he was on guard re read the chapter or watch this video. .
elfman needed help from lisanna and was able to down ajeel. natsu and erza will done the same bro. ok and? he doesnt mean he needed it to beat them. lol ur funny show me when gray fought a full powered mard geer cuz me and u both knew he had natsu help him out. he need natsu to stop one of his attacks. yes base on ur headcanon u think end kill zeref(who at least dont rate highly anyways) with no actual proof. end stronger than irene?? u dont wanna start a debate with @Jko lol. idk why u ur telling me something i know already about erza red pants? what r u getting at with erza get wounded? cuz i telling u erza would endure END attacks regardless.
That is just speculation because that final attack never met thus IG power would likely have done nothing. Zeref’s entire plan was for END to kill him, and since Spriggans knew about Natsu’s Curse power, then Zeref knew about it. Yes he did from the end of Tartaros where he got the book back. And Zeref if he doesn’t care is at full power, Anksehem’s curse would be in his weakened state. It would be enough to kill Aldoron, that is why the seed retreated.
Even equipping she could not hit him without being caught off guard, even then he could just turn the swords to sand, it is multiple hits when he was distracted or cannot dodge. I read the chapter and that is how it happened, she helped to not have him sink, they were going to be killed by Ajeel on Alvarez had it not been for Laxus saving the day. He fought him with Natsu, read the chapter. Mard did everything he could to avoid Gray’s attacks even in Etherious form. END is far better to end Zeref than all of Natsu’s other powers. Stop acting like there is any durability to Erza with Red Pants because Erza was never wounded like that with Natsu or Gray’s attacks before, she would not endure full END power
Of course Zeref knew about END's curse power. He still didn't care much for it, and ignored it for the most part. It was never part of his plan and he never said it could kill him.
Ankhseram's curse only kills people when Zeref cares about life. The god seed thought that Aldoron was precious, which is why it activated. The real Zeref wouldn't be able to get it to work against Aldoron. Even if Zeref started caring about Aldoron, it still wouldn't let Zeref beat Aldoron because the curse also weakens Zeref's combat ability when he does care about life. That was how he was on Tenrou Island, and he was weak enough that Ultear could beat him. Aldoron basically has to sit there while Zeref is unwilling triggers the curse. In a real fight, Aldoron would just knock Zeref out by stepping on him.
No evidence that he didn’t care, it is because Natsu did not listen to him so he gave him to Igneel, he said either Natsu or END would reach him, which was the intent to kill him, and it limits his own power, which would then make him stronger. Size does not matter with those who are actually powerful
August tanked Gildarts' strongest spell, which bypassed his immunity. His suicide spell was strong enough to vapourize the entire country. He was overwhelming Gildarts in physical combat as well. Clearly he's the strongest mage (apart from Plotsu of course) in stats as well. He's not the typical spriggan who's all MP and hax, while being fodder in stats.
I'm fairly certain that he'd have defeated Jellol and co without copying his spells, it just would've been low-mid diff instead of no diff
I used to think that his magic was some lame cheese shit too, but when I thought more about it, my mind changed. I'd say the magic he possess is unique to him, which is why he became the magic King. If you think about it, it makes sense. Being able to instantly master magic from just seeing it once is the only way to become the true magic King. No one else possess that magic, which makes me believe that he invented it himself (or he was born with it, being the son of the most talented mage before him).
Point of all this being, his magic really resonated with me, regarding his hype of "magic King". For me, he truly lived upto his hype - both in power and regarding his title. He just was written in a.....retarded way and himself became a retard
i don't like that august called magic king just becuase of his copy magic, when makarov talked about him and said that he masterd all kind of magic i thought that he is an old man who spend most of his life traveling and learning about magic, IMO he doesn't deserve the title of magic king if there is anyone in FT series who deserve to be called magic king is hades, he is a wise old man who had passion in learning about the secrets of magic unlike august who was only worried about his father love, he left the strongest guild in ishgar and traveled the world just to learn about the one magic which is the source of all magic he masterd all the type of dark magic to the point he can absorb other magic and turn it to dark, he can summon zeref demons, he taught the seven kin there lost magic, he invented grimoire law which is fairy law countarpart, he was the responsible of creating fairy heart which gives infinite magic and control over space and time and it was zeref goal and he even created a similar thing fulfils the same purpose and called it devil heart.
i wished that mashima didn't kill him and let zeref recruit him instead and made him the leader of the spriggan instead of the lost boy august which even his backstory with zeref was meh for me unlike hades who was running behind zeref all of his life and also zeref was the one who taught him the magic.
i don't like that august called magic king just becuase of his copy magic, when makarov talked about him and said that he masterd all kind of magic i thought that he is an old man who spend most of his life traveling and learning about magic, IMO he doesn't deserve the title of magic king if there is anyone in FT series who deserve to be called magic king is hades, he is a wise old man who had passion in learning about the secrets of magic unlike august who was only worried about his father love, he left the strongest guild in ishgar and traveled the world just to learn about the one magic which is the source of all magic he masterd all the type of dark magic to the point he can absorb other magic and turn it to dark, he can summon zeref demons, he taught the seven kin there lost magic, he invented grimoire law which is fairy law countarpart, he was the responsible of creating fairy heart which gives infinite magic and control over space and time and it was zeref goal and he even created a similar thing fulfils the same purpose and called it devil heart.
i wished that mashima didn't kill him and let zeref recruit him instead and made him the leader of the spriggan instead of the lost boy august which even his backstory with zeref was meh for me unlike hades who was running behind zeref all of his life and also zeref was the one who taught him the magic.
I'm the biggest Hades fanboy you'll probably find lol (yea, even more than God Serena). I completely get what you're saying. Hades was probably the most talented mage in the series after Zeref and August, and if we're looking at pure intellect he's arguably got the highest in the FT world.
Hades being the Spriggan leader would've been absolute greatness. He's far better than most of the trash Zeref recruited as his 12 shields (same for Mard Geer too, instead of burning his book, should've just made him a shield).
But, being able to instantly master any spell is the only way to master all magics in the world, given one's lifetime. I see this as something inherent to August, which he got from birth (nobody else has that ability). This ability, is shown to a lesser extend other genius mages as well, who grew up to become arch-mages themselves - Hades and Jellal. They too have shown inhuman learning speed for magic. I see August as someone who has that on steroids. Someone with such inherent talent, truly deserves to be called the magic king.
My problem with August was the retarded way he was written, his ability itself is all right tho a bit too simplistic. I certainly would've enjoyed him more if he was another Hades, who had genuine passion for magic and worked towards mastering it, instead of just mastering anything he saw in an instant.
Copy magic just feels so generic, I've always hated that it was August's ability, adding nullification on top of it just makes it even more annoying as it feels like an entirely different, unrelated ability. It was also underused, most of August's fight was physical combat, why? Should have had him sitting there spamming a bunch of the series coolest spells, probably would've been easier to draw too.
Should've had August use Fairy Glitter on Gildarts, and let that be the reason Gildarts figured out that his ability is copy magic. I mean how the hell did Gildarts know that August could copy magic anyway? Nullification, sure, since he dodged Cana's cards, but where did the idea that August copies magic come from? He only used one Crash spell, why would Giildarts assume August has been copying magic based on that?
