Agree. It's possibly the last time they could felt Gildarts's MP to his climax during the War. We don't know Gildarts' current power level.
If he has increased in same way as Laxus' improvement since Arbaless, he must be still stronger than current Laxus and Erza who are stronger than the BDSK. But we don't know.
Why is there a debate about something that is so clearly set in stone in the manga? The BDSKs are Gildarts level and that means Erza and Laxus have surpassed Gildarts. There is absolutely no other way to understand this without contradicting everything we’ve seen and shown.
Although we all know Gildarts will reappear more powerful than he was when they last saw him, those 2 are currently stronger than Gildarts was in chapter 1 of the sequel.
Based on their performance against Acno tier dragons? Yeah. Based on Irene's performance against Haku? Yeah. Also, following the flow of the entire series, I expect Gildarts is stronger than August by now.
Based on their performance against Acno tier dragons? Yeah. Based on Irene's performance against Haku? Yeah. Also, following the flow of the entire series, I expect Gildarts is stronger than August by now.
We have no evidence that Current Gildarts is equal to or above August. Georg is literally the reason why all this Diabolos fodder exists. He's literally the reason why your favorite character got a power up. If anything it's Georg who deserves to be at the August/Irene level because with all his exploits he can solo the whole Diabolos guild. BDSKs cannot be DS Acno tier when they are One Shot Material for Dragon Selene.
We have no evidence that Current Gildarts is equal to or above August. Georg is literally the reason why all this Diabolos fodder exists. He's literally the reason why your favorite character got a power up. If anything it's Georg who deserves to be at the August/Irene level because with all his exploits he can solo the whole Diabolos guild. BDSKs cannot be DS Acno tier when they are One Shot Material for Dragon Selene.
Lol I would even say George folds Eileen and august combined. He deadass beat a dragon king, killed Selene's son. He probably smoked azure dragon and ash dragon. We should have honestly seen George in action. He and prime elfseria are way stronger than Eileen and august.
I know lightning dragon king was fodder but to kill a king of dragon isn't a small feat. No way he's not dogwalking Eileen and august
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lol suzaku tanking an attack that was about to level the whole labyrinth. This is proof that suzaku can survive casual human Dg flex. More proof of why suzaku is deadass stronger than shitsaki. How she going to ko a guy who has this kind of durability?
Based on their performance against Acno tier dragons? Yeah. Based on Irene's performance against Haku? Yeah. Also, following the flow of the entire series, I expect Gildarts is stronger than August by now.
Considering what we have seen with Gildarts in Aldoron that would likely not be that impressive since his power was not even threatening to that of Aldoron and nerfed Zeref was.
With the OT shitsaki vs Erza was even more of an abomination than I thought it was. It was a 5.5/10 fight now it's even worse. I remember I saw a comment say it was bad that it was forgettable, I didn't agree back then but I agree now lol. Lucy vs kyria was actually good but why didn't Lucy use Gottfried until laxus save that was completely bad writing. She had something that she could use but she just stood there eating kyria's slash and was about to be killed
With the OT shitsaki vs Erza was even more of an abomination than I thought it was. It was a 5.5/10 fight now it's even worse. I remember I saw a comment say it was bad that it was forgettable, I didn't agree back then but I agree now lol. Lucy vs kyria was actually good but why didn't Lucy use Gottfried until laxus save that was completely bad writing. She had something that she could use but she just stood there eating kyria's slash and was about to be killed
It's up to you to prove that he has become stronger, and strong enough to surpass August. Until proven otherwise, Gildarts is still inferior to August, as it has been shown in the manga.
It's up to you to prove that he has become stronger, and strong enough to surpass August. Until proven otherwise, Gildarts is still inferior to August, as it has been shown in the manga.
Problem is like most characters people can’t prove or disprove if he gotten stronger or not because he’s not in the story that much. The one thing we do know is that Hiro seem to want him at the top no matter what
Problem is like most characters people can’t prove or disprove if he gotten stronger or not because he’s not in the story that much. The one thing we do know is that Hiro seem to want him at the top no matter what
If Gildarts reappears in the story, he will probably have become stronger, but the problem is that he claim that he will be more powerful than August as if he cannot become stronger without necessarily surpassing August.. which is wrong because there is no evidence that Gildarts has became stronger, and even less if he has become strong enough to surpass August.
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Mashima could introduce new characters in each arc while still keeping characters like Hades or Mard in the top tier.. but no, he prefers to make characters like Neinhart, Jacob, or Kyria who don't have a quarter of their experience infinitely more powerful than them.
We have no evidence that Current Gildarts is equal to or above August. Georg is literally the reason why all this Diabolos fodder exists. He's literally the reason why your favorite character got a power up. If anything it's Georg who deserves to be at the August/Irene level because with all his exploits he can solo the whole Diabolos guild. BDSKs cannot be DS Acno tier when they are One Shot Material for Dragon Selene.
1) We have literally an entire manga of evidence. Every. Single. Time. We suffer through the same assumption that characters haven't gotten any stronger, or have been surpassed by the ones currently in the spotlight, and EVERY TIME, the powerhouses have showed up to the scene and been exactly the same magnitude greater than them that they have been the entire series. So i offer, 600+ chapters of grade A Mashima writing as evidence. Now back to the germaine point. Where is yours.
2) August and Irene's performance against Acnologia puts them decidedly below Suzaku and his peers. Their greatest feats between them are consistently continetal. Neither of them had a super impressive showing aginst Acno. August was shook, and Irene did no actual or mentionable damage. Irene is still around and she got haxed by Haku. Which would not have worked if the power difference was as wide as you guys like to suggest. Georg should be tiers above them at this point. It's honestly laughable that he's being compared to them.
It's just that it's annoying to see people using BDSK and freaking Selene to downplay August and Irene. Neither Current Laxus nor Current Erza are on their level, especially when they get pissed off by freaking Kyria hax.
It's up to you to prove that he has become stronger, and strong enough to surpass August. Until proven otherwise, Gildarts is still inferior to August, as it has been shown in the manga.
OK. Can you prove to me difinitively that August is stronger than the BDSKs. Cause as it stands, they have better feats than anything he or Irene accomplished, and she was still around...
Mashima could introduce new characters in each arc while still keeping characters like Hades or Mard in the top tier.. but no, he prefers to make characters like Neinhart, Jacob, or Kyria who don't have a quarter of their experience infinitely more powerful than them
Lol why you bringing kyria here? She's a better combatant than most spriggan. She can fight and can use her hax and can use her DS abilities well and she's a far better mage than shitsaki. Yeah she doesn't have high MP so what? How does that matter.
What do the BDSKs have to be comparable to August and Irene? August tanked Gildarts' strongest attack even being pissed off by the plot while Kirin got pissed off by Laxus as soon as he stole her magic. Irene tanked and survived the gruesome NakamErza slashs while Misaki got One Shot. These guys don't do shit to DG Humans let alone Acnologia.
He got back up, totally did. Then he canonically committed suicide because it was the only clear path to victory he could see after taking that hit. Set in stone.
She did survive. Though lets not downpay that slash knocked her out of her dragon form and back into human.
Neither have done shit to DG Humans or Acno. One group has several feats against opponents that level and has tanked all of it..
