Mashima said he is the weakest of the group. But it's like I said: the fact that he is the weakest, doesn't mean he is the weakest by far. We have a lot of characters putting The Spriggan 12 in the same tier overall, with just Larcade, Irene, and August as exceptions, being the top 3 with significant differences in power when compared to the rest. (:
Which is why I said it could be him just being arrogant.
You're saying that destroying Luso's dimensions isn't a big deal even after I proved that Tenrin's sword destruction can keep up with Laxus Red Lighting projectiles. Luso didn't give the trouble Laxus did to Erza because Laxus is stronger than Luso and because Luso is easily defeated when you get close to her. However, Erza needed to put effort into getting close to her.
Well he was sent way in the end. Ye his historia was pretty impressive for a spriggan overall, but this just convince me that alive Serena is Gildarts level. Gildarts talked like if it was low diff though. And the point of him still being a challenge to fairy tail wizards still applies on him, other historia spriggans would be below it.
She got the upper hand at the start, but she was also shown to be overwhelmed later, and in the end she wasn't sure if his defeat was purely her merit of if it was due to Neinhart defeat, it's not like she had the upper hand in the entire fight. And Historia Wahl is below Laxus tier anyway.
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Luso wasn't able to rival it because 1) she is not as strong as Laxus overall, 2) once her speed of creation is surpassed and the enemy comes close to her, she can easily be defeated, 3) she lost her mind in the battle trying to prove that could overpower Erza's speed of destruction.Tenrin swords destruction was ONE OF the abilities she used against Laxus and he was able to rival it, Luso neither was able to rival it nor made Erza use something more than that. It's like i compared a villain destroyed by Goku's kamehameha with another who could produce a ki blast to stalemate the kamehameha. But you got the idea of Aldoron arc Laxus being stronger and even Youko having better feats, i guess it's enough for my point.
Well he was sent way in the end. Ye his historia was pretty impressive for a spriggan overall, but this just convince me that alive Serena is Gildarts level. Gildarts talked like if it was low diff though. And the point of him still being a challenge to fairy tail wizards still applies on him, other historia spriggans would be below it.
She got the upper hand at the start, but she was also shown to be overwhelmed later, and in the end she wasn't sure if his defeat was purely her merit of if it was due to Neinhart defeat, it's not like she had the upper hand in the entire fight. And Historia Wahl is below Laxus tier anyway.
I'm not trying to negate the speed feats, i just don't think they add that much in practice in the end of the day, the feats against historia Wahl seems better than the ones against Luso minions for example. Gray used Devil Slayer magic against Hakune, he used a similar technique to Ice Make but was while using DS. Look at the devil slayer marks on him while he is making the soldiers
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Mashima himself, i was also very surprised with it, not just Neinhart but Ajeel and Jacob definitely seemed weaker than him during Alvarez
I agree with points 1 and 2, the 3 while i can't deny, i can argue that her mental state wouldn't make much difference, Luso who has similar powers prefered to went directly on Alchemy Armor and even said ''no more, cheap tricks'' which should mean that using the World Alchemy hax wouldn't work on someone as strong as Erza. It seemed that great raw power and speed to destroy the world more faster than they could rebuild can counter their hax.
Empyrean was his second strongest spell, the strongest one he used against August. In pre-timeskip Empyrean may have been his trumph card but in Alvarez it was Absolute Heaven.
Minerva was just defeated among them, fighting Historia Wahl was still her best feat as you can argue that she could have won, while Luso dominated Minerva and there is no feat for Minerva to say she could win in a rematch, just fighting somone more powerful than Wahl don't upscale Minerva, if she have made Luso struggle it would have been a feat, but she was just overpowered by Luso. Beisdes Kyria defeated Erza in the first round and Laxus in their second round, Youko defeated the same team who defeated Irene, but all of this happened because the protagonists weren't bloodlusted, the same can be said about Luso due to obvious reasons.
Yep, that's why people mock Gray nowdays, even because his last opponents were basically fodders. Unfortunately this basically downgrade a character when he is compared to base Gray, and this include the alchemy dolls, no wonder Lucy with Brandish body gag diffed them.
Most fights don’t matter unless one of the characters have decent stats.
Where did Mashima say this?
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Could be implies there is a possibility his statement has truth to it...
In A quote from Hiro here
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Wall is the weakest? Even Jacob and Neinhart are stronger than him?In A quote from Hiro here
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Apparently, even I was surprise! LoLWall is the weakest? Even Jacob and Neinhart are stronger than him?
It's probably because Jacob almost killed everyone in the guild with his dimensional magic and Neinhart really defeated Erza and held plenty of FT Wizards with his Historias. (:Wall is the weakest? Even Jacob and Neinhart are stronger than him?
Well Jacob was taking hits from Natsu as well, and Neinhart could knock out Jellal as well.
I personally don't care about his opinion. I don't want to see what is his "idealization" of the character's power scaling, I will just deal with what was portrayed in the manga. It doesn't matter if Mashima says, for instance, that Mirajane and Erza are even at power level if it is not what the manga shows.
Most people wouldn't care about Hiro's official statements. We get them from time to time and most people dispute them anyways.
We're discussing the Power Level portrayed in the manga and not what Mashima thinks in his mind about it. Wahl being the weakest Spriggan is already something debatable: his magic can be weaker than Jacob's or Neinhart's, but Wahl is better at enduring attacks than them. But I agree with Mashima of Wahl position since Wahl seems to be the amateurish of Spriggan 12. He used a Lighting spell against Laxus, enhancing his opponent with it, and also mistook a shot directly on Laxus's body without reason. He is just not as "proper fighter" as the others. Jacob's weakness is humorous, but Wahl just makes mistakes while is fighting.
Problem is people ignore things that are in the manga as well
