Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Mirage]

Wasn't laxus causal nuke more impressive than any attack god Serena showed even when he got serious and used different dragon modes? The GoI also did manage to take down Serena eventually then he went into multiple dragon modes and defeated them. Something like that probably gives him a decent boost in comparison to some other spriggans

I'd say stomping 3 of the strongest mages on the continent + Jura is more impressive than a nuke.

 

[Mirage]

1. Acnologia
2. Zeref
3. E.N.D
4. Spriggans
5. GoI/Jellal/Laxus/Gildarts/Makarov
6. Everyone else

 

[Holt]

I'd say stomping 3 of the strongest mages on the continent + Jura is more impressive than a nuke.

Laxus didn't get a chance to fight those opponents so nothing can really be said in that regard hence comparing their attacks. The GoI stated Serena's power was more than they imagined but Ajeel was also in disbelief when he saw laxus' attack. Then you have August who never thought he needed to interfere in Serena's battle but against a casual attack from laxus, he decided it was necessary to intervene and even suggested that Ajeel could've died and this is considering Ajeel was even on the offense prior. In the end, it's all really speculation but laxus is certainly at a level that's a threat to spriggans. Also, performance in battle is something else. For instance, Jura one shotted Orga, something laxus probably wouldn't have done as they seemed to consider themselves close in terms of power but laxus went on to defeat Jura anyway. So even though Serena beat the GoI on his own, it doesn't mean he can't in turn lose to someone like laxus who may not necessarily be able to replicate the GoI defeat or at least not as easily as Serena did.

 

[BluePegasus]

So more nonsensical claims that aren't backed up by anything. You sure are on a roll today. And my evidence has already been posted. I'm not going over it again.

Nothing you said is factual and the Spriggan certainly aren't the strongest mages there are. The fact that Laxus would've caused significant damage to one with a casual attack had it not been for August already proves that.

You can live in denial for all I care.

You want proof? Here ya go:

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/440/20

God Serena is the strongest mage in Ishgar. Laxus is a mage from Ishgar. This means that Laxus isn't stronger than him. If you're still going to say I'm incorrect, then please give me some better proof.

 

[Xzilerate]

You want proof? Here ya go:

http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/440/20

God Serena is the strongest mage in Ishgar. Laxus is a mage from Ishgar. This means that Laxus isn't stronger than him. If you're still going to say I'm incorrect, then please give me some better proof.

Yea, just like how the 10 Wizard Saints are the 10 strongest mages on the continent...

Oh wait, they're not.

http://i6.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/47/fairy-tail-1564361.jpg

http://i4.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/342/fairy-tail-4287757.jpg

Unreliable and meaningless hype is just that, unreliable and meaningless.

 

[Aizen]

I really don't get the back and forth here especially in regards to the whole Ajeel thing first of all Spriggan "tier's" are not proven at all when someone can show me proof that Ajeel could not have defeated the wizard saints just as easily i will concede that argument but there is nothing at this point, All the spriggan 12 are equal as far as we know other than August that's it. We also can't prove that Laxus is weaker than the gods of Ishgar necessarily but he was clearly weaker before the timeskip and all we have seen is him dispersing Ajeel's sand and dropping a lighting nuke after the timeskip, How powerful it is can not be completely determined due to the fact that August and Ajeel had conflicting opinions of the result, So saying it would have one shot him is just subjective at best. Not to mention while God Serena can also not be proven to be more powerful than every other wizard on Ishgar, Considering the fact he was the number 1 wizard saint plus he wrecked 4 other elite wizards of Ishgar i don't really see the argument that Laxus is on par with him we just can't make that assumption yet.

 

[Verter]

My ranking.

1st tier.
Acnologia, Zeref, E.N.D.

2nd tier.
God Serena, Jellal, August (avance)

3rd tier.
Laxus, Natsu (as DS), Wahl, Jacob (avance), Erza, Mirajane, Di Maria (avance), 2-4 Gods of Ishgar

4th tier.
Gajeel, Sting, Rogue, Jura, Erik, Ajeel.

5th tier.
Wendy, Kagura, Lyon, Freed.

 

[BluePegasus]

Yea, just like how the 10 Wizard Saints are the 10 strongest mages on the continent...

Oh wait, they're not.

http://i6.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/47/fairy-tail-1564361.jpg

http://i4.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/342/fairy-tail-4287757.jpg

Unreliable and meaningless hype is just that, unreliable and meaningless.

Seriously? Did you actually read what I send? God Serena is the strongest mage from ISHGAR, not the Wizard Saints.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Why serena was the number 1 of ishgar if he wasn't the strongest in his continents ? Do you think serena would get this title like that ? I really don't understand your logic..

 

[Yunkers]

Serena wasn't the strongest in Ishgar. Serena is the strongest Wizard Saint, but it's told straight that WS isn't the strognest one.

 

[Xzilerate]

Seriously? Did you actually read what I send? God Serena is the strongest mage from ISHGAR, not the Wizard Saints.

This is pointless. You can't grasp what I'm saying at all. Not even going to bother anymore.

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Why serena was the number 1 of ishgar if he wasn't the strongest in his continents ? Do you think serena would get this title like that ? I really don't understand your logic..

And Jura was ranked as the 5th strongest WS yet was weaker than Laxus who wasn't a WS. Those ranks mean nothing in the grand scheme of things as the chairman (the guy who gives mages the title of WS) doesn't know the extent of every mages power nor is power the only measurement for that title.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

You're hopeless when it comes to comprehending anything. Not even bothering with you anymore.

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And Jura was ranked as the 5th strongest WS yet was weaker than Laxus who wasn't a WS. Those ranks mean nothing.

Laxus vs jura was pretty bs if you ask he wins against jura who was hyped to be on whole another
Level without too much difficulty and fast lol only due to the plot

 

[Xzilerate]

I really don't get the back and forth here especially in regards to the whole Ajeel thing first of all Spriggan "tier's" are not proven at all when someone can show me proof that Ajeel could not have defeated the wizard saints just as easily i will concede that argument but there is nothing at this point, All the spriggan 12 are equal as far as we know other than August that's it. We also can't prove that Laxus is weaker than the gods of Ishgar necessarily but he was clearly weaker before the timeskip and all we have seen is him dispersing Ajeel's sand and dropping a lighting nuke after the timeskip, How powerful it is can not be completely determined due to the fact that August and Ajeel had conflicting opinions of the result, So saying it would have one shot him is just subjective at best. Not to mention while God Serena can also not be proven to be more powerful than every other wizard on Ishgar, Considering the fact he was the number 1 wizard saint plus he wrecked 4 other elite wizards of Ishgar i don't really see the argument that Laxus is on par with him we just can't make that assumption yet.

Which is why it comes down to credibility. August has far more credibility than Ajeel. Ajeel is an extremely arrogant person while August is not. I'm far more inclined to believe August than I ever would Ajeel. Not to mention that statement from Ajeel doesn't look all that credible considering he was about to shit his pants the moment Laxus launched that nuke. And how many times must I say that being the #1 WS is irrelevant. Jura was the 5th ranked WS and was weaker than Laxus. It means nothing.

And if one can't make the argument that Laxus is on par or stronger than one can't make the argument that Serena's stronger. This argument goes both ways.

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Laxus vs jura was pretty bs if you ask he wins against jura who was hyped to be on whole another
Level without too much difficulty and fast lol only due to the plot

Your opinion on that fight is irrelevant. Jura lost. He was weaker. That's a fact. There's no debate about that.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Even mavis said if the 4 god lose against god serena and co ishgar would be fucked...

 

[Yunkers]

Even mavis said if the 4 god lose against god serena and co ishgar would be fucked...

Of course, it would, but simply because she doesn't have anyone to send to that side of Fiore and to defend the guild, so those Spriggans can go to the guild freely. She's a strategist, not Magic Power Detector.

 

[Xzilerate]

Even mavis said if the 4 god lose against god serena and co ishgar would be fucked...

And Makarov said Laxus had no shot against Jura. Mavis said Gray had no shot against Rufus. Both were wrong.

I shouldn't have to tell you that such statements are irrelevant.

 

[Aizen]

Which is why it comes down to credibility. August has far more credibility than Ajeel. Ajeel is an extremely arrogant person while August is not. I'm far more inclined to believe August than I ever would Ajeel. Not to mention that statement from Ajeel doesn't look all that credible considering he was about to shit his pants the moment Laxus launched that nuke. And how many times must I say that being the #1 WS is irrelevant. Jura was the 5th ranked WS and was weaker than Laxus. It means nothing.

And if one can't make the argument that Laxus is on par or stronger than one can't make the argument that Serena's stronger. This argument goes both ways.

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Your opinion on that fight is irrelevant. Jura lost. He was weaker. That's a fact. There's no debate about that.

Well i don't know if it's fact that Jura is weaker not only was it insanely close but we all know Mashima has always made weaker characters beat stronger ones and sometimes it's complete BS. August is likely more credible however that does not make it fact either just your opinion. As far as the wizard saint discussion i think God Serena's status as number 1 is far more credible due to the fact he beat 2-5 with relative ease and even if you don't believe the hype on them they are without a doubt quite powerful if anything due to the fact that Fairy tail seemed to be quite comfortable letting them hold one side on there own (obviously this was wrong seeing as how they got wrecked hahaha) but there skilled no doubt, Like i said it was stated that all the spriggan 12 are on par with God Serena except August so really all of this is just speculation which i suppose is the point of the thread, Not to mention even though i would love for Mashima to hold up the power levels it's unlikely to happen at all times considering his track record sadly.

 

[Holt]

Even though Serena was the No 1 in WS ranking, it doesn't necessarily mean he's the strongest in ishgar. Also, it was the previous magic council that made the ranks. Those guys died a year ago. Laxus is completely different from the level he was a year ago. The point is, Serena is definitely powerful, but it doesn't mean he's actually the most powerful from ishgar. There are enough statements and proof to invalidate such a claim. First, the WS rank was at the discretion of the previous MC. We know that the candidates for the WS position are only those from legal guilds. That's why someone like Jellal can't be a WS. Crime sorciere isn't a legal guild, it's independent. Second, these ranks are subject to change again at the discretion of the previous MC. Perfect example is Jura eventually overtaking Makarov sometime during the 7-year timeskip when FT was absent. Brings me to the third point that if these ranks are indeed subject to change, FT basically never stood much of a chance considering how long they were absent in the magic world. Prior to the seven year timeskip, you had Gildarts who was practically never around. Obviously no way he could get in when hardly anybody sees him. Then there was the seven year timeskip. After that, the MC was annihilated by jackal. Again, during this time, the likes of Gildarts was absent and even though Laxus bested Jura, he was never assimilated into the group. We also have Warrod himself contradict the fact that the WS are the explicit most powerful. Serena is obviously powerful but it's simply erroneous to assume he's the undisputed strongest Mage in ishgar when not all mages are considered for the rank. Basically, one could say the WS list is 8 years outdated and doesn't consider certain individuals and that FT hardly featured in their considerations due to their absence and presumed deaths. A lot can and have changed in those 8 years. That's just the simple fact.

 

[Xzilerate]

Well i don't know if it's fact that Jura is weaker not only was it insanely close but we all know Mashima has always made weaker characters beat stronger ones and sometimes it's complete BS.

Laxus was the one who won the fight and thus he should get the benefit of the doubt in terms of who was stronger between them.

August is likely more credible however that does not make it fact either just your opinion.

Not saying it's factual, but it's the most likely option as he would know more than anyone if an attack was strong enough to significantly injure or kill someone. Far more than an exceedingly arrogant mage like Ajeel would.

As far as the wizard saint discussion i think God Serena's status as number 1 is far more credible due to the fact he beat 2-5 with relative ease and even if you don't believe the hype on them they are without a doubt quite powerful if anything due to the fact that Fairy tail seemed to be quite comfortable letting them hold one side on there own (obviously this was wrong seeing as how they got wrecked hahaha) but there skilled no doubt

I'm not saying they're not skilled, but I don't believe them to be the 4 strongest wizards in Ishgar when their feats are pitiful. I find them to be exceedingly overhpyed.

Like i said it was stated that all the spriggan 12 are on par with God Serena except August so really all of this is just speculation which i suppose is the point of the thread, Not to mention even though i would love for Mashima to hold up the power levels it's unlikely to happen at all times considering his track record sadly.

I agree that all of the Spriggan 12 sans August are on the same general playing field. That's why I believe Laxus to be as strong as Serena if not stronger because he managed to put a significant amount of fear into one of those Spriggans, which led to August of all people coming in to counteract his attack while insinuating Ajeel may have died from said attack.

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Even though Serena was the No 1 in WS ranking, it doesn't necessarily mean he's the strongest in ishgar. Also, it was the previous magic council that made the ranks. Those guys died a year ago. Laxus is completely different from the level he was a year ago. The point is, Serena is definitely powerful, but it doesn't mean he's actually the most powerful from ishgar. There are enough statements and proof to invalidate such a claim. First, the WS rank was at the discretion of the previous MC. We know that the candidates for the WS position are only those from legal guilds. That's why someone like Jellal can't be a WS. Crime sorciere isn't a legal guild, it's independent. Second, these ranks are subject to change again at the discretion of the previous MC. Perfect example is Jura eventually overtaking Makarov sometime during the 7-year timeskip when FT was absent. Brings me to the third point that if these ranks are indeed subject to change, FT basically never stood much of a chance considering how long they were absent in the magic world. Prior to the seven year timeskip, you had Gildarts who was practically never around. Obviously no way he could get in when hardly anybody sees him. Then there was the seven year timeskip. After that, the MC was annihilated by jackal. Again, during this time, the likes of Gildarts was absent and even though Laxus bested Jura, he was never assimilated into the group. We also have Warrod himself contradict the fact that the WS are the explicit most powerful. Serena is obviously powerful but it's simply erroneous to assume he's the undisputed strongest Mage in ishgar when not all mages are considered for the rank. Basically, one could say the WS list is 8 years outdated and doesn't consider certain individuals and that FT hardly featured in their considerations due to their absence and presumed deaths. A lot can and have changed in those 8 years. That's just the simple fact.

Pretty much what I've been saying all along.

 

[iDooom]

Isn't this thread made so you can tell your expectations?

Well yes everyone can have their own opinion, but let's look at this in perspective.

Previous chapter Wendy (yes she's in DF, but not even close to Spriggan level) kicking Dimaria in face = zero dehype for Dimaria.

Chapter spoilers (which may or may not be completely accurate) of Erza and Kagura thinking of going after Neinhart (not only has Neinhart not lost yet, but the battle hasn't even started) = Neinhart is weaker than Dimaria and the previous "weakest Spriggan", Ajeel. And to think that some people had thought that Neinhart was badass for not listening to Zeref's orders...

I guess that being remotely associated with Erza reduces a character's hype and feats by 50%. I can understand now how people can believe that current Erza is weaker than (featless) Gajeel and (featless) Gray.