Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[~Charging Lightning~]

I know haxes have limits. Thus, the "if". I don't know of any reason why Acnologia couldn't be affected by Age Seal, but I abide by the NLF, so, no, Acnologia will always beat Dimaria.

Yeah, Hiro really screws up with making some powers too haxed (like Macro or Age Seal). lol, fairy tail is just one of those mangas were you have to apply NLF to hax powers really frequently

 

[THE ALMIGHTY CRYBABY]

I'd put Dimaria (age seal) above DF Gajeel. And if her hax is limitless he should be 1) LOL

As for 10, I would put there someone with some hax (Brandish -mass change-, Jacob -transport- or Mira/Shaila -macro- IF their haxes don't have limits) or even God Serena, since I consider him superior to Bradman.

Imho, DF Gajeel is on high tier spriggan level but I could be wrong. I am w8ing to see DF Natsu ( perhaps in a few chapters vs August ) than we'll know it for sure.
Sorry but Brandish is kinda overrated. She didn't fight anyone so far but is ranked rly high because of her magic. I have to admit that her magic is cool but we didn't see her use it in a battle so far. I assume that she hides mini weapons in her outfit somewhere and increases their size in the right moment to deal maximum damage to her enemies. Or if she gets the chance she shrinks her opponents ( if possible). However, none of that would work against Bradman because his body consists mainly of mbp and if she gets to close to him she won't faint but definetely be weakend (mbp is poison for mages)!
Mira didn't fight any powerhouse but only fodders at the current arc, so I am w8ing for her to show some more feats in battle as well ( probably vs Rakheid/Lacrede) and we will see.
God Serena is damn strong but I see no way for him to defeat Bradman. How is he supposed to damage him and close combat is no option!. Besides we even do not know who strong exactly he was ( thanks to Hiro and Acno xD). I wonder, what the 4 unknown elements were, he could use?!
Jacob's transport magic can be stopped quite easily which was shown by happy. That's the reason why he did not make it in my list!

 

[Crimson Ice]

I know haxes have limits. Thus, the "if". I don't know of any reason why Acnologia couldn't be affected by Age Seal, but I abide by the NLF, so, no, Acnologia will always beat Dimaria.

Actually time stop isn't NLF, though Acnologia would beat her regardless. Just putting that out there.

 

[Kay3795]

. Gildarts should be better than August at cqc, and his perception in combat should be greater in spite of August's supposing superiority......


. You're guaranteed to give yourself a massive headache trying to apply anti-NFL logic to justify every form of haxx -- especially to ascertain a characters level of haxx by placing unfounded restrictions on them -- because you'd eventually perpetuate and exponentiate the underlying dilemma we all seem to have with haxx.

Its foolish, extremely foolish to think haxx could only work against a certain level of opponent! Making such a supposition and embedding it as though it's fact or that it's credible or even reasonable already contradicts why we term certain abilities as haxx. In a sense, you're essentially trying to label -- limit -- the haxxed abilities; and ironically it becomes not so much haxx as it is another fucking ability. This may not necessarily be your intention, but it's unfortunately the end result.

Spatial Displacement or Distortment or Disfigurement is haxx, and unless you have a counter or resistance against it, you are doomed! A wall lvl combatant -- basically a human being lol -- with this ability is more dangerous than an opponent with planetary durability. Durability be damned when one can split the space you are stand on -- ripping you in half and fractionising your remains in process. Unless the Author specifically puts a limitation on Jacob -- meaning he has to tell us about it -- or Anco is shown being able to resist or counter it, Acno goes down once caught by it.

Time Manipulation is haxx, and unless Acno had shown resistance or a counter against it, Dimaria restricts all movement from Acno like every other opponent.

 

[Char]

Actually time stop isn't NLF, though Acnologia would beat her regardless. Just putting that out there.

How? She'd stop time and just break his neck. How is it not NLF?

. You're guaranteed to give yourself a massive headache trying to apply anti-NFL logic to justify every form of haxx -- especially to ascertain a characters level of haxx by placing unfounded restrictions on them -- because you'd eventually perpetuate and exponentiate the underlying dilemma we all seem to have with haxx.

Its foolish, extremely foolish to think haxx could only work against a certain level of opponent! Making such a supposition and embedding it as though it's fact or that it's credible or even reasonable already contradicts why we term certain abilities as haxx. In a sense, you're essentially trying to label -- limit -- the haxxed abilities; and ironically it becomes not so much haxx as it is another fucking ability. This may not necessarily be your intention, but it's unfortunately the end result

Then account for these haxes:

Dimaria stopping time and breaking Acnologia's neck.
Brandish shrinking Acnologia to the size of an ant and stepping on him.
Jacob transporting Acnologia to another dimension from which he cannot hope to get out.
Jacob disappearing and slicing Acno's throat.
Mirajane commanding Acnologia to commit suicide.
Bradman deadly poisoning Acnologia.
Even Mest implanting memories on Acno that make him commit suicide.

The NLF exists to prevent such things.

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

I guess if you think about it, Age Seal itself isn't NLF. It should work on anyone no matter how phisically strong they are. Saying that she kills characters like Acnologia, Zeref, or Igneel while in age seal is NLF.

 

[Crimson Ice]

How? She'd stop time and just break his neck. How is it not NLF?



Then account for these haxes:

Dimaria stopping time and breaking Acnologia's neck.
Brandish shrinking Acnologia to the size of an ant and stepping on him.
Jacob transporting Acnologia to another dimension from which he cannot hope to get out.
Jacob disappearing and slicing Acno's throat.
Mirajane commanding Acnologia to commit suicide.
Bradman deadly poisoning Acnologia.
Even Mest implanting memories on Acno that make him commit suicide.

The NLF exists to prevent such things.

Time Stop isn't a NLF because she's affecting time and not the person. Even if time is stopped what can Dimaria do to Acno?

 

[Char]

Time Stop isn't a NLF because she's affecting time and not the person. Even if time is stopped what can Dimaria do to Acno?

She can slash his throat, break his neck, chop him in pieces, burn him alive, pierce through his heart or any other vital organ... these are a few that come to mind.

 

[Crimson Ice]

She can slash his throat, break his neck, chop him in pieces, burn him alive, pierce through his heart or any other vital organ... these are a few that come to mind.

And you think Dimaria had the offensive power to do any of that? Oh goodness...........

 

[Kay3795]

And you think Dimaria had the offensive power to do any of that? Oh goodness...........

Acno may not even be durable at that point as energy doesn't permeate his body (E=mc²).... Actually now that I think about it, her powers are even weirder than I initally thought..... Just think about it! She doesn't merely makes 100 times 90 to the power 9745453827938534545567468 miles per second seem slow, she doesn't even make it move AT ALL!. A pebble traveling at that speed alone would result to the downfall of Stars. Can Acno tank a supernova? ....Yet Dimaria is superior to that speed. Her speed is infinitely superior! (Now obviously Hiro wouldn't dare implement such because it's beyond broken, but Dimaria's powers are broken).

Even within FT realm of logic, she should still be able to rapid punch his ass a billion times in quick succession. A acumination of building block lvl hits - town level in the billions would be absolutely devastating....(yet Hiro wouldn't think of this either......arggh).

 

[Static]

Acno may not even be durable at that point as energy doesn't permeate his body (E=mc²).... Actually now that I think about it, her powers are even weirder than I initally thought..... Just think about it! She doesn't merely makes 100 times 90 to the power 9745453827938534545567468 miles per second seem slow, she doesn't even make it move AT ALL!. A pebble traveling at that speed alone would result to the downfall of Stars. Can Acno tank a supernova? ....Yet Dimaria is superior to that speed. Her speed is infinitely superior! (Now obviously Hiro wouldn't dare implement such because it's beyond broken, but Dimaria's powers are broken).

Even within FT realm of logic, she should still be able to rapid punch his ass a billion times in quick succession. A acumination of building block lvl hits - town level in the billions would be absolutely devastating....(yet Hiro wouldn't think of this either......arggh).

You do realize this is a fictional story right? And one about FANTASY and MAGIC to top it off. Real world logic and mathematics hardly apply here -.-

 

[Axiomus]

Wendy's barriers can negate Dimaria's all out attacks, and 3rd origin Chelia's skin can deflect her laser beams. Acnologia's base human mode has more magical power than anyone, and he's a dragon slayer. Dragon Slayers are renowned for having super-human qualities. This is all in just his human form. If Acnologia is serious he would fly in as a dragon, which is probably his dragon force. In that form, Acnoloiga can tank roars and claws from Igneel. Given that Irene deemed a single display of Acnologia's power as proof that he's above Zeref's level, and the fact that human Acnologia's claw attacks are lethal to God Serena...nearly every hit from Igneel would have potentially taken out a Spriggan level opponent. Dimaria's attacks wouldn't even register, just like Kagura's archenmesis failed to register against a random dragon - Age Seal or none.

Dimaria's age seal doesn't let her do more damage than she would outside of Age Seal, and her sword shattered upon her releasing her god soul. Dimaria's all out attack > Dimaria's beams > Dimaria's soul. Dimaria's all out attack is unlikely to even scratch human Acnologia.

 

[PeanutButterJelly]

Wendy's barriers can negate Dimaria's all out attacks, and 3rd origin Chelia's skin can deflect her laser beams. Acnologia's base human mode has more magical power than anyone, and he's a dragon slayer. Dragon Slayers are renowned for having super-human qualities. This is all in just his human form. If Acnologia is serious he would fly in as a dragon, which is probably his dragon force. In that form, Acnoloiga can tank roars and claws from Igneel. Given that Irene deemed a single display of Acnologia's power as proof that he's above Zeref's level, and the fact that human Acnologia's claw attacks are lethal to God Serena...nearly every hit from Igneel would have potentially taken out a Spriggan level opponent. Dimaria's attacks wouldn't even register, just like Kagura's archenmesis failed to register against a random dragon - Age Seal or none.

Dimaria's age seal doesn't let her do more damage than she would outside of Age Seal, and her sword shattered upon her releasing her god soul. Dimaria's all out attack > Dimaria's beams > Dimaria's soul. Dimaria's all out attack is unlikely to even scratch human Acnologia.

Even if that is true,Acno ( as far as we know) can't evade her time-stopping.
Ultear won Cheria&Wendy the fight.

 

[Axiomus]

Even if that is true,Acno ( as far as we know) can't evade her time-stopping.
Ultear won Cheria&Wendy the fight.

If Irene traps Acnologia inside an alternate dimension and he smashes his way out of it, I would argue that he is a reality warper. I would consider him above Dimaria for the same reason August, Irene, and Zeref are. By the way, Zeref can also stop time and he's still below Acnologia. In fact, having Acnologia face Irene with such a hax magic might have been done just to do that. To put at ease any doubts that the other Spriggans can just hax their way out of it.

 

[PeanutButterJelly]

If Irene traps Acnologia inside an alternate dimension and he smashes his way out of it, I would argue that he is a reality warper. I would consider him above Dimaria for the same reason August, Irene, and Zeref are. By the way, Zeref can also stop time and he's still below Acnologia. In fact, having Acnologia face Irene with such a hax magic might have been done just to do that. To put at ease any doubts that the other Spriggans can just hax their way out of it.

That's the same plot hole,like Brandish decreasing the size of Lucy's house instead of her.
DiMaria toying with her victoms instead of klling them
Why didn't Ultear help Kagura,but only Wendy&co?
How Levy survive against Brandmann,when other died while being enar him for 1 sec?
Why didn't Brandmann use macro on Gajeel and made him kill Levy?
Silver not killing Natus while he could have after freezing him.
Because it would be boring and just too hax.

 

[Axiomus]

That's the same plot hole,like Brandish decreasing the size of Lucy's house instead of her.
DiMaria toying with her victoms instead of klling them
Why didn't Ultear help Kagura,but only Wendy&co?
How Levy survive against Brandmann,when other died while being enar him for 1 sec?
Why didn't Brandmann use macro on Gajeel and made him kill Levy?
Silver not killing Natus while he could have after freezing him.
Because it would be boring and just too hax.

There's no plot-hole. Dimaria simply lacks the offensive power to kill Acnologia. The best she can hope for is to trap him inside time seal until she runs out of power. Even that is up in the air depending on what Irene does, because if Acnologia can smash an entire alternate universe he can probably resist the effects of time-manipulation. Given the fact that other people who can stop time can't stop him, this is most likely the case.

Brandish doesn't want to kill Lucy right away,
Silver doesn't want to kill Natsu.
Bradman either can't use macro, or more likely Macro wouldn't work.
Levy is more resistant than average fodders

 

[Kay3795]

You do realize this is a fictional story right? And one about FANTASY and MAGIC to top it off. Real world logic and mathematics hardly apply here -.-

Its not so much math as it is common sense. Every knows that stopping time or any other haxx abilities can easily destroy a story as no amount of raw power could combat them. The reason these physics-breaking abilities lose most times in fiction is because they are subject to the supremacy of plot lol

 

[Hermit]

That's the same plot hole,like Brandish decreasing the size of Lucy's house instead of her.
DiMaria toying with her victoms instead of klling them
Why didn't Ultear help Kagura,but only Wendy&co?
How Levy survive against Brandmann,when other died while being enar him for 1 sec?
Why didn't Brandmann use macro on Gajeel and made him kill Levy?
Silver not killing Natus while he could have after freezing him.
Because it would be boring and just too hax.

Brandish decreased the size of Lucy's house because she realized she was Layla's daughter and got angry, she wasn't going to kill Lucy without telling her first why exactly she hated Layla, we saw that in Chapter 469 where the two were in the guild's hospital...
Dimaria toying with her victims is actually pretty appropriately creepy and sadistic for a villain, think about it, anyone who can stop time would want to fool around a little..
Ultear didn't help Kagura because Dimaria didn't take Kagura to the Gaol of Time like she did Wendy and Sherria, if she had done that then the whole battlefield would have been frozen in time, Wahl included
There is no point in Bradman using Macro to kill Levy, his opponent is Gajeel, Gajeel was the only one Bradman was taking seriously between the two..7
Silver didn't kill Natsu because he was a good guy all along

 

[Labi]

Brandish decreased the size of Lucy's house because she realized she was Layla's daughter and got angry, she wasn't going to kill Lucy without telling her first why exactly she hated Layla, we saw that in Chapter 469 where the two were in the guild's hospital...
Dimaria toying with her victims is actually pretty appropriately creepy and sadistic for a villain, think about it, anyone who can stop time would want to fool around a little..
Ultear didn't help Kagura because Dimaria didn't take Kagura to the Gaol of Time like she did Wendy and Sherria, if she had done that then the whole battlefield would have been frozen in time, Wahl included
There is no point in Bradman using Macro to kill Levy, his opponent is Gajeel, Gajeel was the only one Bradman was taking seriously between the two..7
Silver didn't kill Natsu because he was a good guy all along

I'd like to mention one thing.
We don't know much about Dimaria.
Nobody knows if she would be able to freeze Wahl. It was neither stated nor denied.
I personally think she can just stop time for weaker opponents
That would still be hax cuz she's a spriggan.
I don't think she could freeze Acno or Zeref cuz if she could ot would be ez to beat Acno.

 

[Char]

And you think Dimaria had the offensive power to do any of that? Oh goodness...........

What, do you think in his human form his flesh is made of diamond? oh please.......

He's fully paralyzed, he cannot dodge anything, he's there, exposed to take whatever comes at him. Dimaria is a Spriggan. She can pretty much kill any human being, even if he's God tier. Unless you prove in his human form he can tank a sword aimed at his throat, or a laser piercing his heart.

The thing with Acno is that he is so fast people cannot fight on equal terms with him. Just stop time and tell me why you think his durability is such that Dimaria cannot do any of the things I mentioned above.

Now, if he's in dragon mode when she stops time, she has plenty of time to run, because then, yeah, she pretty much NEEDS to run as fast as possible. Unless she's got haxy brandish by her side. She stops time, the other one shrinks him and one of them steps on him.

So, yeah, that's NLF for you. To prevent such falacies.