Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

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In terms of tiers, there's really only 2 in the Spriggans. The G.O.A.T level (August/Irene), and the other 10 Spriggans. Among the 10, the difference comes in how well they can fight, but I don't see it being a huge gap.

I rate God Serena highly, but every other Spriggan could beat the GoI/Jura imo. Some might be less efficient in defeating them, but some might be efficient against Serena via hax. It depends on how you want to look at it. I also don't think God Serena is as strong as Natsu or Laxus. Natsu in base is arguably on par with God Serena in terms of attack power. In FDKM it's a mismatch.

I don't think there is any of the Spriggans ranked 3-12 that could beat Jellal/Laxus/Natsu without hax. With hax is the only time I see it happening.
It's literally their magic / curse (in Bradman's case) though so I don't know why you would want to remove their hax. I can also say that without Jellal's Heavenly Body or Natsu/Laxus's DS magic, they can't beat any Spriggans.
 

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Natsu can only beat a Spirggan if he has Igneel's power up,if not he will lose in a 1vs1.
Besides Laxus,Jella( maybe Gildart and Mavis) nobody could 1vs1 Spriggan without a plot hole or plot armor.
Natsu should be able to defeat Neinhart with a FDKM attack.
I'm surprised no one brought this up and considering Bradman is an etherious/demon, Gray should be able to solo him with low difficulty given the advantage has over him with demon slaying, and he has shown to instant freeze anti-magical particles before.
TO Chelia should be able to solo Dimaria.

All three instances aren't plot holes or plot armor.
 

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It's literally their magic / curse (in Bradman's case) though so I don't know why you would want to remove their hax. I can also say that without Jellal's Heavenly Body or Natsu/Laxus's DS magic, they can't beat any Spriggans.
Yes I meant that as hax magic is the only time I think a Spriggan can actually beat someone like Jellal. Someone like Serena I would think Jellal can high diff beat. (Laxus did beat Wahl without DS Magic, but I get your point).
 

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People make Spriggan rank in which August is #1 and Irene is #2 (or both are top tier), but I had predicted this long ago :teehee

1. August
2. 11 other members
This reply was posted before Irene's reveal. So I am gonna update mine:

1. August
2. Irene Belserion
3-12. The others
 
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This isn't reallya good argument.
Jacob with Transport or Whal with Weakness would have done the same,DiMAria can just freeze time and slaugther them in less then 1 sec(so far she has only been shown to toy with women) ,but let's not forget Brandmann who would just kill them before they even knew what hit them.
To place GS so high,when nearly all of the Spriggan could have done the same,if not better.
How is it not a good argument? Dimaria is above Jacob and Wahl in my list. It's clear she'd beat them rather easily.

However we do not know what happens in Jacob's dimension. He can cast his spatial technique at distance, so he will be unaffected by Bradman. If we assume that upon sending an enemy to his dimension, Jacob wins; then Jacob should be above Bradman. But still, Bradman is too OP so he's above Jacob in my list. So, again, how is it not a good argument?

As for GS, it's up to opinion. In yours, you think other Spriggans would've done the same or better. In mine, few other spriggans could've beaten the GoI that easily.

In terms of tiers, there's really only 2 in the Spriggans. The G.O.A.T level (August/Irene), and the other 10 Spriggans. Among the 10, the difference comes in how well they can fight, but I don't see it being a huge gap.

I rate God Serena highly, but every other Spriggan could beat the GoI/Jura imo. Some might be less efficient in defeating them, but some might be efficient against Serena via hax. It depends on how you want to look at it. I also don't think God Serena is as strong as Natsu or Laxus. Natsu in base is arguably on par with God Serena in terms of attack power. In FDKM it's a mismatch.

I don't think there is any of the Spriggans ranked 3-12 that could beat Jellal/Laxus/Natsu without hax. With hax is the only time I see it happening.
That's being optimistic. Do you really think you can compare the likes of Neinhart with the likes of Dimaria? For me the difference is vast and there is one big or a couple of tiers between them. Think of it, Dimaria can freeze time and kill him in less than a nanosecond (real time).

Now as for ranking Serena, I rank him slightly above Natsu and Laxus so there's the difference in opinion between me and most of you :P
 

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That's being optimistic. Do you really think you can compare the likes of Neinhart with the likes of Dimaria? For me the difference is vast and there is one big or a couple of tiers between them. Think of it, Dimaria can freeze time and kill him in less than a nanosecond (real time).

Now as for ranking Serena, I rank him slightly above Natsu and Laxus so there's the difference in opinion between me and most of you :P
It depends on the situation. I rate DiMaria #3 by virtue of her hax, but I don't think I'll create a whole new tier. Neinhart can make a small army, but I would say he is the worst fighter out of all the shields.

Well Serena did stomp what was supposedly "Ishgals best force" so that supports your opinion. If the GoI make a return and defeat a Spriggan, or fight alongside Laxus/Natsu equally, then God Serena would definitely be a lot stronger than I rank him now. But as it stands I think he hasn't shown enough to be above, in my opinion.
 

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Well, since I haven't read this thread for such a long time, I'll be giving my opinion on the power rankings.

I won't go over the Gildarts' topic because nobody knows for sure and it's pointless to speculate.

As for the Spriggan rankings, my list tends to differ from all the ones I've seen by quite a bit. I will not include hax magic. My belief is that the Spriggans are so close in power that their hax would have a negligible effect on one another. Otherwise, Marin should be a member of the Spriggan 12...

Spriggan Rankings [As of Chapter 490]
Exclusions: Brandish μ, Invel, and Rakheid
**NOTE: No specific order within the tiers.

Top Tier
  • August
  • Eileen Belserion
High Tier
  • God Serena
Mid Tier
  • Bradman
  • Dimaria "Chronos" Yesta
  • Wahl Icht
  • Ajeel Ramal
Low Tier
  • Neinhart
  • Jacob Lessio

There are a few things that I would like to clarify though.

I excluded Brandish because she doesn't have sufficient amount of feats yet (hasn't been in a real battle).

Ajeel is not a low-tier Spriggan. He was one of the few who had some sort of interference in his fight. He also managed to take down Erza who is notable for her feats (despite having PoF sometimes).

Jacob Lessio is not a low-tier Spriggan because of his durability. This guy has decent durability considering he tanked Natsu's attacks and Makarov's punch without much damage. Rather, the reason why I classified him as a low-tier Spriggan is because of his weak offensive abilities and his low intelligence.

Neinhart is not a low tier-Spriggan because of his durability. Like Jacob, he was put lower than the rest on my list because his offensive magic is too easily countered (to be blunt, it was useless).

As for his defense, this is probably one of the topics that I very much disagree with based on the posts I've seen in countless threads. The reason why he was one-shotted was because Jellal's attack power far outclasses a regular mage. To put this into perspective, take Ikusa-Tsunagi as an example and compare him to Neinhart. He was one-shotted by Natsu's FDK spell (to the point he was crushed to pieces), yet are we going to assume that he has low durability? Or that Natsu's attack power was just that much higher than Ikusa-Tsunagi's defense?



Now look at Neinhart. He was indeed one-shotted by Jellal, but his body is still intact. We don't have proof that he died yet although we can assume so.



So here's my question... Is Jellal's attack power that much higher than Neinhart's defense? Or are we going to assume that he has low durability? Notice that I flipped the questions because there seems to be a double-standard here.

I'm being quite reasonable with this comparison. Both Natsu's spell and Jellal's spell should have similar attack potency. Actually, both characters are around the same level. If we use logic, then both should have similar durability (we can't tell for sure but we can speculate). The fact that some call Ikusa-Tsunagi's defense being stronger than a mountain (able to give wizards like Gray + Erza trouble) and Neinhart's durability being fodder level leads me to question this. Note that appearances in Fairy Tail doesn't matter (I think I've stated this too many times already).
 
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It depends on the situation. I rate DiMaria #3 by virtue of her hax, but I don't think I'll create a whole new tier. Neinhart can make a small army, but I would say he is the worst fighter out of all the shields.

Well Serena did stomp what was supposedly "Ishgals best force" so that supports your opinion. If the GoI make a return and defeat a Spriggan, or fight alongside Laxus/Natsu equally, then God Serena would definitely be a lot stronger than I rank him now. But as it stands I think he hasn't shown enough to be above, in my opinion.
In my humblest opinion, anyone who can solo in less than a nanosecond any other character, even if their MPs are pretty much on the same tier, their abilities are so disparate that there must be different tiers. Another story would be that Neinhart could manage to somehow kind of "resist" age seal (in the sense that age seal worked, but worse than it should, maybe not freezing time but making it slower, similar to Racer's magic). Then I'd say: ok, Neinhart is so powerful he can kind of counter age seal, so he's on the same tier.

But think of it. Dimaria can pretty much freeze time then stab him and he's realistically killed Neinhart in way less than one second (real time perspective). IMHO that puts her on a whole different league...

As for the GoI, thank you. People think too little of them, just because GS defeated them rather handily. And since the Spriggan 12, save Irene/August, are portrayed as being in the same level, everyone thinks any Spriggan could solo very easily the GoI. That's hyping the Spriggan a little bit too much, and downplaying the GoI way too much.

Let's remember that Ishgar is a big continent and it would be inconsistant if the most powerful mages in that continent were utter fodders compared to the strongest mages in the neighboor continent, wouldn't it? I mean, the GoI (together, of course) should not be sooooo far from being capable of matching a Spriggan, it's just that GS was a bad matchup and it would automatically put God Serena a little above other Spriggans such as Wahl or Ajeel.

But again, people will claim that, feat wise, Ajeel was more impressive than God Serena. Which is kind of truish. Still, anyone is entitled to an opinion and I think mine is somehow backed up by what you say: "Serena stomped Ishgar's best force".

And as you very well say, if the GoI make a come-back and effectively prove being capable of fighting or even beating a Spriggan, they're automatically ranked as high as Laxus or BDKM Natsu, and that automatically would make GS above other spriggans. Sadly, I don't think Jacob or Ajeel are appearing again, same for the GoI, although who knows.

@XXEliteXXAceXX

I kind of agree with your ranking. Could you elaborate on why, according to your opinion, God Serena is above any other spriggan except the top tiers?
 

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In my humblest opinion, anyone who can solo in less than a nanosecond any other character, even if their MPs are pretty much on the same tier, their abilities are so disparate that there must be different tiers. Another story would be that Neinhart could manage to somehow kind of "resist" age seal (in the sense that age seal worked, but worse than it should, maybe not freezing time but making it slower, similar to Racer's magic). Then I'd say: ok, Neinhart is so powerful he can kind of counter age seal, so he's on the same tier.

But think of it. Dimaria can pretty much freeze time then stab him and he's realistically killed Neinhart in way less than one second (real time perspective). IMHO that puts her on a whole different league...
I can agree with that in a way, I'd definitely say Age Seal is a better magic than Historia. But if we're holding Neinhart to that standard then I think everyone including Irene/August should be held to it. Also, Jacob's Transport is practically on par with DiMaria's Age Seal... so I can't hold everyone to the standard of dealing with the others abilities. For example Wahl can oneshote Bradman by cancelling anti-magic particles, but this doesn't mean they're tiers apart.

I'm pretty loose with tiers because it depends how much range of power there is in the manga. With the Spriggans I think 2 tiers is convenient enough. If I had more people to it, then maybe an extra tier is better. Like...

August Irene
Laxus Natsu Jellal DiMaria
God Serena Wahl Ajeel Brandish Jacob Bradman Neinhart

The difference with adding the extra 3 characters is their feats put space between the others, so I can afford to split the Spriggans up if I want to. (note I'm giving Jellal and Laxus a benefit of the doubt with more magic to show, but I'm not allowing this for DF Natsu which I think will put him above August).

As for the GoI, thank you. People think too little of them, just because GS defeated them rather handily. And since the Spriggan 12, save Irene/August, are portrayed as being in the same level, everyone thinks any Spriggan could solo very easily the GoI. That's hyping the Spriggan a little bit too much, and downplaying the GoI way too much.
Well I don't rate the GoI that high either, but I leave the possibility open for them to have been soloed if Serena is a Laxus+ tier. Imo I rate Erza higher, for now at least.
 

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Why does people rank the springggan based on hype? It I need to rank the sprimggan for now I would say dimaria is the strongest , not Irene or August .
For August I'm basing it off of him placing Brandish under a sleep spell, while at first it doesn't seem impressive we know (from Mystogan's magic) that the caster has to be more powerful than the target (hence why Laxus and Makarov stayed awake while everyone else was floored), he also cast a massive nuke fairly casually. This puts August at least a tier above Brandish and the other Spriggans. As for Irene, she's pushed Acno back and condensed the entire of Fiore into 1/20th of it's size, her feats speak for herself.
 

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For August I'm basing it off of him placing Brandish under a sleep spell, while at first it doesn't seem impressive we know (from Mystogan's magic) that the caster has to be more powerful than the target (hence why Laxus and Makarov stayed awake while everyone else was floored), he also cast a massive nuke fairly casually. This puts August at least a tier above Brandish and the other Spriggans. As for Irene, she's pushed Acno back and condensed the entire of Fiore into 1/20th of it's size, her feats speak for herself.
And add to that she is the only wizard who earned praise from Acnologia apart from Igneel.Brandish too recognize her strength.
 

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For August I'm basing it off of him placing Brandish under a sleep spell, while at first it doesn't seem impressive we know (from Mystogan's magic) that the caster has to be more powerful than the target (hence why Laxus and Makarov stayed awake while everyone else was floored), he also cast a massive nuke fairly casually. This puts August at least a tier above Brandish and the other Spriggans. As for Irene, she's pushed Acno back and condensed the entire of Fiore into 1/20th of it's size, her feats speak for herself.
And dimaria freaking stop the time? Lol
 

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Why does people rank the springggan based on hype? It I need to rank the sprimggan for now I would say dimaria is the strongest , not Irene or August .
For August I'm basing it off of him placing Brandish under a sleep spell, while at first it doesn't seem impressive we know (from Mystogan's magic) that the caster has to be more powerful than the target (hence why Laxus and Makarov stayed awake while everyone else was floored), he also cast a massive nuke fairly casually. This puts August at least a tier above Brandish and the other Spriggans. As for Irene, she's pushed Acno back and condensed the entire of Fiore into 1/20th of it's size, her feats speak for herself.
Besides, Brandish herself admitted that Eileen is the strongest woman in the spriggan squad ( Brandish and Dimaria are women, I think ;)) and it was stated several times as well that August is in general the strongest among them!
In ft-manga hax spells works only on enemies who are equal or less in power than its caster while in reality Dimaria with "Age Seal" would be god-like!
 

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And dimaria freaking stop the time? Lol
I'm guessing that there is a limit on the people she can do it too, my guess being that it's peoples whose Magic Power exceeds hers. Besides, Brandish knows DiMaria the best and she still called August the most powerful and Irene the most powerful female Spriggan so I'm guessing both of them have more to show.
 

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I'm guessing that there is a limit on the people she can do it too, my guess being that it's peoples whose Magic Power exceeds hers. Besides, Brandish knows DiMaria the best and she still called August the most powerful and Irene the most powerful female Spriggan so I'm guessing both of them have more to show.
Nope , so far there's no prove that there's a limit for dimaria magic unless someone like ultear butt in .
Like you said maybe just maybe Irene and August have more to show but for now dimaria is the strongest springgan .
 

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Nope , so far there's no prove that there's a limit for dimaria magic unless someone like ultear butt in .
Like you said maybe just maybe Irene and August have more to show but for now dimaria is the strongest springgan .
It's common in shounen that whoever has greater power hax magic doesn't work on them. For e.g : Soi Fon's one hit kill didn't work on Aizen because he had higher reiatsu iirc and Sasuke's Amaterasu didn't work on Madara.
 

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Nope , so far there's no prove that there's a limit for dimaria magic unless someone like ultear butt in .
Like you said maybe just maybe Irene and August have more to show but for now dimaria is the strongest springgan .
If her magic didn't have any limits why would Zeref go to such lengths of war when he could just collect Natsu, himself and DiMarai to solo Acno? She would keep time frozen while Natsu and Zeref kill him. This alone should tell us that it has limits.
 

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Nope , so far there's no prove that there's a limit for dimaria magic unless someone like ultear butt in .
Like you said maybe just maybe Irene and August have more to show but for now dimaria is the strongest springgan .
If you remember Brandish said Irene is the only one who can defeat August.So if she could defeat August then why Brandish didn't mention Dimaria's name.
 

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Since hype always make me disappointed , I will stick to my point for now . Until Irene and August show something worthy to prove that they're above dimaria league .
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P's. I didn't said that there's no limit for dimaria magic , it's just that so far in the manga there's nothing indicates dimaria magic limit . And I said she's above August and Irene becoz she have better feats than them.
Fair enough, sorry if I came across a little hostile. :) My point was just that pretty much every magic has a limit but you're right it hasn't been shown yet, I think most of us are assuming it's about Magic Power.
 

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But if we're holding Neinhart to that standard then I think everyone including Irene/August should be held to it.
I'd like to believe that Irene and August are superior to Dimaria. Otherwise they wouldn't have been so overhyped. But let's remember some characters have been hype to unheard extents, such as the GoI, and then they were shown to be a disappointment. I HOPE August and Irene are truly more powerful than anything Dimaria can offer!

Also, Jacob's Transport is practically on par with DiMaria's Age Seal... so I can't hold everyone to the standard of dealing with the others abilities.
When we're talking of hax that can immediately kill you, we must see which ones can be activated the quickest.
For example, Dimaria only needs to click her teeth. As a matter of fact, I do believe she can activate it whenever she wants with no lag whatsoever, so it activates instantaneously. Hax-wise, it's the fastest and most efficient magic in the whole manga, so far.

Brandish should be able to shrink anything instantaneously as well. But I think stopping time implies 0 time to activate because in Brandish's case, you have to actually think what you're going to shrink and then locate it. I think the "thinking" takes more time than just activating age seal.

As for Jacob, if we regard his spatial technique as haxy as age seal or shrinking anything (we cannot be sure for we don't know what happens in his dimension), that is to say, if we consider that anything he sends to his dimension can be killed effortlessly, then he'd be the third slowest in that list since he needs to join the palms of his hands. Besides the activation of the technique takes a little bit longer, as it's not instantaneous that everyone disappears when he joins his hands, but there's like 2 seconds time in which the characters were in the blink of disappearing, but actually realizing 'something was going on'. Maybe this hax can be avoided somehow.

For example Wahl can oneshote Bradman by cancelling anti-magic particles, but this doesn't mean they're tiers apart.
In this case, there's the counter factor. I think the counter factor does not apply, it's an exception and shouldn't be taken into account when classifying characters into tiers.

For example, TO Shelia beat Dimaria just because of Ur's time magic. Imagine Ur wasn't there. Even if Shelia didn't need TO because she was in her prime. Shelia cannot counter age seal, therefore, Shelia is vastly inferior to Dimaria. TO Chelia is still arguably inferior than Dimaria, and she arguably only won thanks to Ultear and Wendy being support characters. But even if Chelia proved to be superior in terms of Cqc or general magic spells to Dimaria, Dimaria would still wreck her with age seal as she would any other character (save, I'd like to think, August, Irene, Zeref and Acnologia).

So, Wahl is actually below Bradman, because the amount of people Wahl and Bradman can beat is different. IMO, Bradman is more powerful, he has a wider variety of magic (curses for that matter) and he can potentially kill more people. But Wahl is limited to cqc, flashy attacks and explosions. So, Wahl beating Bradman doesn't make him stronger, it makes him a counter, or an exception.

I'm pretty loose with tiers because it depends how much range of power there is in the manga. With the Spriggans I think 2 tiers is convenient enough. If I had more people to it, then maybe an extra tier is better.
I understand your reasoning. As a matter of fact, I think this was Mashima's initial reasoning. But then he had to make hax specialists, cqc specialists and hybrids. And hax specialists are always superior to cqc because hax can go as far as you want, but cqc has some limitations. Unless you're as fast as Goku, there's no way that a FT cqc specialist can be faster at knocking down an opponent like Dimaria, than her activating age seal. The moment she activates age seal, you're probably dead, and unless we apply the NLF here, she should objectively beat pretty much anyone. I'm going to give August and Irene the benefit of the doubt because 1) they were portrayed to be more powerful (not like this matters much, we know how Mashima hypes characters, then fodderizes them) and 2) I assume, given the diversity of magic styles they've shown or implied to posess, they can counter it.

Like...

August Irene
Laxus Natsu Jellal DiMaria
God Serena Wahl Ajeel Brandish Jacob Bradman Neinhart

The difference with adding the extra 3 characters is their feats put space between the others, so I can afford to split the Spriggans up if I want to. (note I'm giving Jellal and Laxus a benefit of the doubt with more magic to show, but I'm not allowing this for DF Natsu which I think will put him above August).
I like this. Still, I cannot see God Serena losing to Wahl, but I can see him losing to Jacob for his hax, so in my head there are still tiers. Although, yeah, you could say they belong to the same tier and classify them from more powerful to less and it'd still make sense to me :P Besides, I'm one of those who's still reluctant to accept God Serena below the likes of Laxus, Natsu or Jellal, but again, Jacob should beat GS, Natsu, Jellal, Laxus... given his hax.


Well I don't rate the GoI that high either, but I leave the possibility open for them to have been soloed if Serena is a Laxus+ tier. Imo I rate Erza higher, for now at least.
Yeah, I get it. The GoI were so overhyped and then sooooo vastly downplayed that it's difficult to place them. Some will argue they're vastly inferior to current Erza, while I believe each of them to be around her level. If we go by that logic, they, together, should've beaten GS, if we consider GS to be on the same tier as Ajeel. This is why only two opinions can be had on that topic:

1. That GS is vastly superior to Ajeel
2. That the GoI+Jura are vastly inferior to Erza
 
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