Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

Which side are you on?

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Mavis knows that he is equal or more powerful than Irene and August.
Zeref said it is the only one who can defeat Acnologia.
And surely: he is the other half of Natsu.
She never said he is equal to Irene or August. She simply said that the nature of his magic was different whereas for August and Irene, she commented on how their magic power was ridiculous.

Yeah, he can because he is a potential counter. Doesn't mean he will.

Uh no, he isn't? Where did you get that from?
 

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Nope he used both dragon and demon flames which came from different sources (ethernano and anti-ethernano) therefore it weakened his flames greatly. Natsu defeated Dimaria with more curse power than magic because his curse container was greater that time because of tonnes of negative emotions.
Nah like I said he was only using his partial END powers. Natsu DS flames don't look like the flames he was using against Gray and DiMaria. The only thing Natsu was using is completely END powers alone (well a part of END powers). Power alone can't be greater than timestop lol and Natsu MP nor CP was said to be greater than an S12.
 

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I agree with everything but the ranking.

Hoteye >= MIdnight >= Angel = Racer = Cobra. Hoteye was able to fight on par with x784 Jura.
Nah, Hoteye's magic was a perfect counter to Jura's, Jura is leagues above any OS member, he could stomp any of them as easily as he stomped Brain, Hoteye just had the benefit of being able to liquefy rock which happens to be what Jura attacks with.
To me Racer was by far the most impressive of the OS, he was trolling Gray and Lyon without any effort at all, Midnight only gets to be above him cause character statements put him as the strongest.
 

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I know she said fourth guest, but when she says May prove a tad troublesome she was talking about everyone together. Why would she call OS by themselves a tad troublesome when she can oneshot all of them? Heck Larcade can oneshot all of them lol.
Uh.....where is this from?
No seriously, enlighten me here.
'Everyone together'? When she literally separated them in order of First
,Second and Third?
Where are you getting that Irene meant all of them combining together?
A panel would be helpful if you have any
 

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I know she said fourth guest, but when she says May prove a tad troublesome she was talking about everyone together. Why would she call OS by themselves a tad troublesome when she can oneshot all of them? Heck Larcade can oneshot all of them lol.
She talks about OS alone proving tad troublesome. Sentence is as clear as day. She is yet to casually one shot anyone. Although she probably will one shot Wendy, Juvia or someone else. Also, OS power levels after time skip is unknown. For all we know Cobra and others might be stronger than or very close to Jellal, highly unlikely tho.
 

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Nah, Hoteye's magic was a perfect counter to Jura's, Jura is leagues above any OS member, he could stomp any of them as easily as he stomped Brain, Hoteye just had the benefit of being able to liquefy rock which happens to be what Jura attacks with.
To me Racer was by far the most impressive of the OS, he was trolling Gray and Lyon without any effort at all, Midnight only gets to be above him cause character statements put him as the strongest.
Yes but Hoteye attack is the one that stopped Erza in her tracks when she was dodging all of Racer's and Cobra's attacks at the same time. The only reason I'd put MIdnight above Hoteye is because of his reflector and illusion magic. In sheer power though I'd put Hoteyes above everyones because he was doing damage to Jura. Though as I said before the power difference is pretty small.
 
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They weren't. She was clearly spacing out her words to fit into the bubble. That's why you see ellipsis (...) every time she talks about each "Guest" individually. She meant all them or she wouldn't have need the ellipsis to pause after she said third guests.
she was clearly referring to CS alone.

I was wrong when I said she sent Bradman and Larcade only after she said third guests. she actually sent them when Gajeel's team arrived. She then said "with Bradman and Larcade, we need only watch." so she clearly wasn't worried even with FT team being there. then OS arrives and she starts to worries and sends Juliet and Hynhe (they're not spriggan level but my point is that she only started worrying when CS arrived and that's CS without Jellal).
 

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Uh.....where is this from?
No seriously, enlighten me here.
'Everyone together'? When she literally separated them in order of First
,Second and Third?
Where are you getting that Irene meant all of them combining together?
A panel would be helpful if you have any
Yes I know seperated them but as you seen she was pausing between each one of them to differentiate between the "Guest" there was no reason to use the ellipse as a pause if she was just talking about OS being troublesome.

She talks about OS alone proving tad troublesome. Sentence is as clear as day. She is yet to casually one shot anyone. Although she probably will one shot Wendy, Juvia or someone else. Also, OS power levels after time skip is unknown. For all we know Cobra and others might be stronger than or very close to Jellal, highly unlikely tho.
Please tell me one OS member that can survive an attack that pushed back Acnologia? Her air push or meteor would obliterated OS. Not to mention Larcade can oneshot easily too.
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she was clearly referring to CS alone.

I was wrong when I said she sent Bradman and Larcade only after she said third guests. she actually sent them when Gajeel's team arrived. She then said "with Bradman and Larcade, we need only watch." so she clearly wasn't worried even with FT team being there. then OS arrives and she starts to worries and sends Juliet and Hynhe (they're not spriggan level but my point is that she only started worrying when CS arrived and that's CS without Jellal).
Looks at the ellipse which is used as a pause each time when she talks about a different "Guest". As soon as she pauses she stops talking directly about OS and them as a whole.

She doesn't worry about Larcade nor does she worry about Bradman getting KOed by OS. She believes all them as a collective force might be able to overwhelm them.
 

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She seperated them but as you seen she was pausing between each one of them to differentiate between the "Guest" there was no reason to use the ellipse as a pause if she was just talking about OS being troublesome.


Please tell me one OS member that can survive an attack that pushed back Acnologia? Her air push or meteor would obliterated OS. Not to mention Larcade can oneshot easily too.
Makarov was wrestling Acnologia in dragon form. Irene would be dead on spot if Acnologia was seriously trying to blitz her. Irene's attack is nothing more than hype. It didn't do any damage or whatsoever. That's like saying historia/weaker Simon pushing back people puts him anywhere near them lmao.
 

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Yes I know seperated them but as you seen she was pausing between each one of them to differentiate between the "Guest" there was no reason to use the ellipse as a pause if she was just talking about OS being troublesome.


Please tell me one OS member that can survive an attack that pushed back Acnologia? Her air push or meteor would obliterated OS. Not to mention Larcade can oneshot easily too.
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Looks at the ellipse which is used as a pause each time when she talks about a different "Guest". As soon as she pauses she stops talking directly about OS and them as a whole.

She doesn't worry about Larcade nor does she worry about Bradman getting KOed by OS. She believes all them as a collective force might be able to overwhelm them.
she said the third guests would prove to be a tad troublesome. Mind you she didn't hype them to high heaven. But it was enough for her to send reinforcements to the battlefield. She acknowledged their ability to impact the battle in the north. For someone like Irene, this should not be taken lightly.
if we're gonna assume things to suit our agenda you could go as far as to say if Acnologia wasn't on his way there she probably would have intervened personally.
 

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Makarov was wrestling Acnologia in dragon form. Irene would be dead on spot if Acnologia was seriously trying to blitz her. Irene's attack is nothing more than hype. It didn't do any damage or whatsoever. That's like saying historia/weaker Simon pushing back people puts him anywhere near them lmao.
You're seriously comparing the Acno that stood there and took attacks compared to the one that actually talked to her and fought back? You do know Acnologia not only talked to Irene (which is a big thing) but also praised her abilities? Acnologia was going more serious on her than he did Serena which shows the difference between a mid tier and a top tier S12.

Pushing back Acnologia is a tremendous feat. Do you remember when Natsu could barely push back Gildarts and that was huge accomplishment for Natsu at the time guess what pushing back Acno is like that but a trillion times harder. Being able to pin Acno and push him back significantly with two casual spells means she'd oneshot OS with either of those moves.
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she said the third guests would prove to be a tad troublesome. Mind you she didn't hype them to high heaven. But it was enough for her to send reinforcements to the battlefield. She acknowledged their ability to impact the battle in the north. For someone like Irene, this should not be taken lightly.
if we're gonna assume things to suit our agenda you could go as far as to say if Acnologia wasn't on his way there she probably would have intervened personally.
If she intervened personally then OS would've been killed instantaneously. As I said if she was strictly talking about OS she wouldn't of pause. I believe the Crunchy also said some differently.

She acknowledges they were coming and if they joined forces with the others they'd prove to be a threat. She wasn't strictly talking about them alone being able to do real damage to the North.
 

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You're seriously comparing the Acno that stood there and took attacks compared to the one that actually talked to her and fought back? You do know Acnologia not only talked to Irene (which is a big thing) but praised her abilities? Acnologia was going more serious on her than he did Serena which sows the difference between a mid tier and a top tier S12.

Pushing back Acnologia is a tremendous feat. Do you remember when Natsu could barely push back Gildarts and that was huge accomplishment for Natsu at the time guess what pushing back Acno is like that but a trillion times harder. Being able to pin Acno and push him back significantly with two casual spells means she'd oneshot OS with either of those moves.
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If she intervened personally then OS would've been killed instantaneously. As I said if she was strictly talking about OS she wouldn't of pause. I believe the Crunchy also said some differently.

She acknowledge they were coming and if they joined forces with the other they'd prove to be a threat. She wasn't strictly talking about them alone being able to change the entire battle.
Makarov was literally wrestling his dragon form. How serious Acnologia was against Irene? Perhaps a bit more, does it change much?
Acnologia actually wanted to kill Serena. He wasn't going for the kill on Irene. He was trying to see if she can "entertain" him. He praised her abilities, but that isn't hype. It is expected of one of the strongest 12.
It isn't a tremendous feat whatsoever when Acnologia isn't dead serious about it. If he was, Acnologia would tear her just as easy as he did Serena, considering he can cut through Igneel as well...

Better to get some things right because people will talk about Erza's crying fists pushing back Acnologia soon, because we know what's going to happen.
 

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she said the third guests would prove to be a tad troublesome. Mind you she didn't hype them to high heaven. But it was enough for her to send reinforcements to the battlefield. She acknowledged their ability to impact the battle in the north. For someone like Irene, this should not be taken lightly.
if we're gonna assume things to suit our agenda you could go as far as to say if Acnologia wasn't on his way there she probably would have intervened personally.
to be fair compared to the other teams all of their members are powerful in their own right.
1) Twin dragonslayers,Minerva&co
2)Gajeel&Mira
3)Midnight,Cobra&co (they seem to the strongest team compared to lets just FT)
 

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Makarov was literally wrestling his dragon form. How serious Acnologia was against Irene? Perhaps a bit more, does it change much?
Acnologia actually wanted to kill Serena. He wasn't going for the kill on Irene. He was trying to see if she can "entertain" him. He praised her abilities, but that isn't hype. It is expected of one of the strongest 12.
It isn't a tremendous feat whatsoever when Acnologia isn't dead serious about it. If he was, Acnologia would tear her just as easy as he did Serena, considering he can cut through Igneel as well...

Better to get some things right because people will talk about Erza's crying fists pushing back Acnologia soon, because we know what's going to happen.
Makarov did not push back Acno in anyway. And Acno just stood there and took attacks and was playing around. He didn't acknowledge anyone there.

A lot more since he actually talked to Irene and didn't obliterate her like he did with Serena.

He praised and that isn't hype. As Acnologia ever praised anyone power in the show? No so her getting recognition from the King of Dragons himself is hype.

No he wouldn't of. We've already seen her able to dodge much stronger attacks then what we saw when he faced against Serena. She already proven herself not to get oneshotted by Acnologia.

He cut through Igneel after an extended fight not just in oneshot.

I don't think Hiro's stupid enough to have Erza solo Irene. The amount of hate he would get would be unreal. Unless he wants to end up like Bleach on the cancel list he'll make it something better than PoF Erza BS oneshot.
 

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It make sense if it is a handicap, Ethernano vs Anti Ethernano. There must be an internal fight inside Natsu i mean his magic container vs his curse container..
When Brandish enlarged the E inside Natsu.. Happy supported the above claims by saying his flames is dying out.
Curse power is not exactly anti-ethernano. It's magic that is powered through negative emotions. The definition of "negative emotions" is vague as of right now so how you define it is up to you . But anti-ethernano is different. The only form of anti-ethernano we've seen are Magic Barrier Particles.

As for Natsu, nothing should be conflicting with is Dragon Slaying Magic. In fact, Natsu only has Fire Dragon Slaying Magic, so any form of fire from him is considered Dragon Slaying Magic. E.N.D just powers his Fire Dragon Slaying Magic through negatives emotions (curses) instead of magic power.

The only reason why he didn't seem strong was because DeS Gray is on his level and because he wasn't at full power (meaning his transformation wasn't complete).
 

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Makarov did not push back Acno in anyway. And Acno just stood there and took attacks and was playing around. He didn't acknowledge anyone there.

A lot more since he actually talked to Irene and didn't obliterate her like he did with Serena.

He praised and that isn't hype. As Acnologia ever praised anyone power in the show? No so her getting recognition from the King of Dragons himself is hype.

No he wouldn't of. We've already seen her able to dodge much stronger attacks then what we saw when he faced against Serena. She already proven herself not to get oneshotted by Acnologia.

He cut through Igneel after an extended fight not just in oneshot.

I don't think Hiro's stupid enough to have Erza solo Irene. The amount of hate he would get would be unreal. Unless he wants to end up like Bleach on the cancel list he'll make it something better than PoF Erza BS oneshot.
Yet that doesn't change the fact that those events happened in his dragon form. He was in no hurry to kill them just like he was in no hurry to kill Irene.
Acnologia one shotted Igneel. That extended fight was taking hits with mostly no damage. It came down to one big clash.

When did Irene ever dodge Acnologia? If you mean that clearly not being serious spell... What Acnologia used against Irene was easily dodgeable. He merely tested her. The ground literally gave it away that his magic was coming. She had the time to look down before slow jumping out of the way. Even her landing was slow. He came to Serena with the intent to kill him. He didn't charge at Irene the same way. They both attacked once and that was it. If Irene was actually fighting Acnologia would be up in her face like any dragon slayer. Irene isn't anywhere near as fast as Acnologia, heck I doubt Irene is even a fast type.

It is going to happen whether PoF or not.
 

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Yet that doesn't change the fact that those events happened in his dragon form. He was in no hurry to kill them just like he was in no hurry to kill Irene.
Acnologia one shotted Igneel. That extended fight was taking hits with mostly no damage. It came down to one big clash.

When did Irene ever dodge Acnologia? If you mean that clearly not being serious spell... What Acnologia used against Irene was easily dodgeable. He merely tested her. The ground literally gave it away that his magic was coming. He came to Serena with the intent to kill him. He didn't charge at Irene the same way. They both attacked once and that was it. If Irene was actually fighting Acnologia would be up in her face like any dragon slayer. Irene isn't anywhere near as fast as Acnologia, heck I doubt Irene is even a fast type.

It is going to happen whether PoF or not.
Irene was getting in the way of him killing the DS so again it isn't the same.

Acnologia didn't oneshot Igneel they had a whole off screen fight in the stratosphere. You can't oneshot someone after you battled the for an extended period.

When he attacked her with his magic attack. Acnologia didn't dodge her attack he got tagged two times by her. Praising Acnologia >>> Talking Acnologia >>>> Non Talking Acnologia. Zeref already said he doesn't talk to people who views as ants to him. Yeah and the same battle would happen bcs he was a lot more serious to Irene than Serena. He wouldn't have talked to her and oneshotted her like Serena if he could.

Then it'll suck and he'll lose fans.
 

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Nienheart summoned Historias that gave Erza, Gray, Lyon, Wendy, Laxus, Juvia and Meredy a hard time. Yes Erza was able to disspell his Historia but she also fainted afterwards. He was basically giving the whole south a hard battle and basically he took on the entire south.
While it is impressive that he gave that group a fight, there is one thing you need to consider: they were all far away from him or (in Erza's case) in a 3 on one battle. Had Laxus been near him? One shot. Had Gray been near him? One (or two) shot. His durability is what makes him so weak, against anyone who's remotely near Spriggan level in terms of offense he's almost certainly going down, likely in a one-shot.
No way in the world should people like Invel/Bradman/Serena be ranked above them.
Jacob and Wahl are debatable due to their hax but Neinhart? I disagree, and I could make a case for Jacob and Ajeel being significantly inferior to them.
Serena took out the GOI but they are nowhere near the FT mages level currently. He attacked team Natsu and even as a historia failed to do any damage to them with a combination of 3 attacks.
The GOI may not be top tier (though I hold Hyberion at around Erza's level due to what he did to Goddy) but that's no reason to downplay God Serena given that he wrecked 4 of the best mages in Ishgar without using his Dragon Slaying magic. On top of that Gildarts outright said that Goddy would give him a run for his money, maybe even beat him. God Serena is definitely above the likes of Neinhart, Ajeel too due to his Water and Gale Dragon Slayer magic.
Invel froze Team Natsu but they all broke out. His chains while impressive were overpowered by Juvia's and Gray's will. He wanted them to fight and kill each other but they said no a "Killed" themselves. Then he proceeded to get destroyed by DeS Gray. Even before the chains DeS gray wounded him with an attack.
To be honest Invel insta-freezing team Natsu is a very good point; in Invel's favour. They were all trapped for a length of time, had Gray not been fighting him he could have killed them. About the chains, the specifics don't matter, at the end of the day it got someone killed (Juvia only survived due to Wendy) so the technique is still pretty good in my books. His durability is kinda standard IMO, he's weak in CQC but his Rainment makes up for it against most opponents.
Bradman took out lackys of Sabortooth. gave Gajeel a decent battle. The only problem with him is that all his curses were countered by Levy and that his anti magical particles did nothing to Levy.
Bradman no-diffed members of Sabertooth to the point where his literal appearance made them flee. His battle with Gajeel and Levy was actually a lot more impressive when you consider the following:

- Gajeel was completely immune to MBP's.
- Levy's mask stopped MBP's from entering her lungs (this is when they're lethal).
- Levy helped remove curses like Tenchi Kamei and the Second Seal (both of which would change the dynamic of the fight).
- Bradman didn't use any of his hax curses (Macro, Enhancement, Sensation etc.)
- It's hinted Bradman wasn't going all out for the most part (he says that he hasn't fought in a while and will fight to his heart's content).
- He was pretty much stomping Gajeel, Gajeel couldn't touch him whilst Bradman was mocking him towards the end of the fight.

With the above being said there's also the fact that he was hardly going for Levy, all of his attacks were aimed at Gajeel (as Onimaru showed), the only reason Levy was damaged was due to his AoE.

In addition to this (and this is the most important part tbh) Bradman has a distinct advantage against any mage without special lungs as his MBP's will kill them as they try and fight him. When we first see him he has a group of people running away bleeding to death due to the MBP's, the only reason that didn't happen in the Gajeevy fight is because:

- Gajeel's Iron Lungs
- Levy's mask (and even this was only temporary given how she collapsed the second it fell off).

Gajeel and Levy were the closest things to perfect counters of Bradman and he still slaughtered them. They were lucky that Gajeel managed to go into Dragon Force, otherwise Bradman would have killed them (Levy was basically defenseless and Gajeel was being toyed with).
So with that being said without a doubt those 3 spriggan are the weakest.
I think with the above that I've proved they're not the weakest members, Neinhart is solidly at the bottom due to his paper durability and Jacob and Ajeel are definitely not above Bradman, God Serena and Invel, though I feel we should debate that after Neinhart has been sorted out (though like I said, I see him as the worst S12 member).
 

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Which means that Mirajane can solo Crime Sorciere without Jellal, if Irene think that Juliet and Hyne can beat Oracion Seis.
 

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Which means that Mirajane can solo Crime Sorciere without Jellal, if Irene think that Juliet and Hyne can beat Oracion Seis.
Wait,What?
What's with this roundabout logic?
Mira can't solo all of Crime Sorciere.
Erza>=Mira
Jellal>>>>>>>>Erza
 
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