Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[King of kings]

1. Hiro isn't going to one shot a character when he's first introduced, I already said this.

2. He one shot him at the end after bluenote said lets get serious.

3. Gildarts blitz him and one shot him just like Natsu.

Debunked.

Gildarts would murder stomp anyone of the spriggan 12. How many times do I need to say this? It doesn't matter if he blitz fodder, it showcased his speed.

The nuke Laxus dropped can be broken, Gildarts casually leveled a mountain. Laxus can spam that nuke, Gildarts can spam mountain busting punches. He is also much faster than Laxus and if he turns into lightning, he's dead. He was able to crash light.

Also Gildarts can just use disassembly and end him from the start.

Ez Debunk.

Gildarts is SS-class mage and Laxus is an S-class mages. Gildarts magic is crash , crash magic is a magic where they can destroy anything and even FDKM Natsu (probably) .

 

[Seven777]

1. Hiro isn't going to one shot a character when he's first introduced, I already said this.

2. He one shot him at the end after bluenote said lets get serious.

3. Gildarts blitz him and one shot him just like Natsu.

Debunked.

Gildarts would murder stomp anyone of the spriggan 12. How many times do I need to say this? It doesn't matter if he blitz fodder, it showcased his speed.

The nuke Laxus dropped can be broken, Gildarts casually leveled a mountain. Laxus can spam that nuke, Gildarts can spam mountain busting punches. He is also much faster than Laxus and if he turns into lightning, he's dead. He was able to crash light.

Also Gildarts can just use disassembly and end him from the start.

Ez Debunk.

1. Doesnt matter, the fact that Mashima had Natsu oneshot Bluenote means that Mashima wants Natsu to look stronger than GIldarts was, which means he is.
2. Wasnt a oneshot when he was literally going blow for blow with him in the previous chapter.
3. Its not like Natsu, cause Natsu expended literally no effort, while Gildarts clearly did

Spoiler

Debunked.

Say it as much as you want, no one in their right mind would believe it, at least not if you're talking about Tenrou Gildarts.
It showcases that from fodder's point of view Gildarts is fast, to normal characters that means literally nothing.

Maybe it can be broken, doesnt matter, its not his strongest spell and Laxus is all about CQC anyway. Laxus can match GIldarts punches with his own just like Bluenote did, he is also faster than Gildarts(blitzing a spriggan>>>>>>blitzing those fodders). Red Lightning>>Mountain Busting punch cause killing Wahl>>>>Killing a random monster.

I'd say debunked, but really im just pointing out the obvious at this point

 

[Woodenstool]

1. Doesnt matter, the fact that Mashima had Natsu oneshot Bluenote means that Mashima wants Natsu to look stronger than GIldarts was, which means he is.
2. Wasnt a oneshot when he was literally going blow for blow with him in the previous chapter.
3. Its not like Natsu, cause Natsu expended literally no effort, while Gildarts clearly did

Spoiler

Debunked.

Say it as much as you want, no one in their right mind would believe it, at least not if you're talking about Tenrou Gildarts.
It showcases that from fodder's point of view Gildarts is fast, to normal characters that means literally nothing.

Maybe it can be broken, doesnt matter, its not his strongest spell and Laxus is all about CQC anyway. Laxus can match GIldarts punches with his own just like Bluenote did, he is also faster than Gildarts(blitzing a spriggan>>>>>>blitzing those fodders). Red Lightning>>Mountain Busting punch cause killing Wahl>>>>Killing a random monster.

I'd say debunked, but really im just pointing out the obvious at this point

"Mashima wants Natsu to look stronger than Gildarts"

"Wasn't a one shot"
Gildarts was throwing regular punches, it wasn't fused with crash. His first serious hit was with crash and it disposed him easily.

"Natsu wasn't serious"
Natsu used a large spell to get rid of him and neither was Gildarts, after Bluenotestinger told him to get serious, Gildarts destroyed his black hole to non existence then with a smile on his and several meters apart poped him to cloud level in a second.

"Maybe can be broken"
What are you even talking about? It obvious can be broken, crash destroys magic. August' barrier is made of magic, crash would destroy it.

The perspective doesn't matter, it said in an instant. Don't ignore cannon source facts.

Show me Laxus being faster than Gildarts

 

[Crimson Ice]

You're avoiding the question.

I've already gone through this with you LMAOO. Stop making it seem like Gildarts has any chance against August and you're asking a valid question.

 

[Woodenstool]

Spoiler

https://yonkouprod.com/reader/read/fairy-tail/en/0/518/page/3

Irene's attack is nothing, it's not even that big. Erza dodging all of that places her faster than Natsu.

 

[Dranzer]

This is just my opinion, but I feel like if August is supposedly stronger than Irene, who has the power of a dragon, then Gildarts should not be able to take out August who definitely can't beat a dragon.

 

[Woodenstool]

This is just my opinion, but I feel like if August is supposedly stronger than Irene, who has the power of a dragon, then Gildarts should not be able to take out August who definitely can't beat a dragon.

August is not stronger than a dragon, quit pulling stuff from nowhere.

 

[Seven777]

"Mashima wants Natsu to look stronger than Gildarts"

"Wasn't a one shot"
Gildarts was throwing regular punches, it wasn't fused with crash. His first serious hit was with crash and it disposed him easily.

"Natsu wasn't serious"
Natsu used a large spell to get rid of him and neither was Gildarts, after Bluenotestinger told him to get serious, Gildarts destroyed his black hole to non existence then with a smile on his and several meters apart poped him to cloud level in a second.

"Maybe can be broken"
What are you even talking about? It obvious can be broken, crash destroys magic. August' barrier is made of magic, crash would destroy it.

The perspective doesn't matter, it said in an instant. Don't ignore cannon source facts.

Show me Laxus being faster than Gildarts

Everything Gildarts does is infused with crash, even just launching himself off a rock caused it to shatter into cubes. Why do you think Magnolia needs to alter the city when he shows up?

Did i say Natsu wasnt serious? Who exactly are you quoting? Cause its not me.
The size of Natsu's attack is irrelevant. Natsu effortlessly beat Bluenote, Gildarts didnt, despite being far angrier than Natsu. Which means Natsu>Tenrou Gildarts.

Besides, even GMG Jura is a match for Gildarts, and GMG Laxus is above him.
Current Natsu>>GMG Laxus>GMG Jura(a guy who could match Gildarts)

Black Hole took time to break. Laxus' attacks are far faster and far more powerful than Black Hole, so them being breakable before it deals substantial damage on GIldarts is questionable. Same with August's barrier, could take time to break, and even if it does, August could just put up another one.

Not ignoring anything, just acknowledging the fact that blitzing a spriggan or even start of the manga Natsu>>>Blitzing fodders. Launching 13 attacks in an instant against Laxus, will just result in Laxus blocking 13 punches in an instant with ease. That's how powerscaling works honey.

 

[Woodenstool]

Everything Gildarts does is infused with crash, even just launching himself off a rock caused it to shatter into cubes. Why do you think Magnolia needs to alter the city when he shows up?

Did i say Natsu wasnt serious? Who exactly are you quoting? Cause its not me.
The size of Natsu's attack is irrelevant. Natsu effortlessly beat Bluenote, Gildarts didnt, despite being far angrier than Natsu. Which means Natsu>Tenrou Gildarts.

Besides, even GMG Jura is a match for Gildarts, and GMG Laxus is above him.
Current Natsu>>GMG Laxus>GMG Jura(a guy who could match Gildarts)

Black Hole took time to break. Laxus' attacks are far faster and far more powerful than Black Hole, so them being breakable before it deals substantial damage on GIldarts is questionable. Same with August's barrier, could take time to break, and even if it does, August could just put up another one.

Not ignoring anything, just acknowledging the fact that blitzing a spriggan or even start of the manga Natsu>>>Blitzing fodders. Launching 13 attacks in an instant against Laxus, will just result in Laxus blocking 13 punches in an instant with ease. That's how powerscaling works honey.

You really used the Makarov quote, I guess Gray didn't stand a chance against a spriggan and Erza too. But Erza totally wasn't holding her own against Irene.

Jura doesn't have mountain durability and can't counter Gildarts hax and speed. Same with Laxus, hes fast but not faster than Gildarts. His instantaneously punches will have the force of a mountain busting punch. He wouldn't be able to react and nor is his durability capable of withstanding that.

Gildarts threw punches in a instant casually, he destroyed a mountain casually. Add it up, Laxus gets murdered if Gildarts goes all out.

And the mountain is way bigger than Laxus" nuke, it ran off panel. Its alot wider.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fairytail/comments/35rx9m/natsu_vs_gildarts_who_would_win/

Read TheUltimateTeigu post

 

[Seven777]

You really used the Makarov quote, I guess Gray didn't stand a chance against a spriggan and Erza too. But Erza totally wasn't holding her own against Irene.

Jura doesn't have mountain durability and can't counter Gildarts hax and speed. Same with Laxus, hes fast but not faster than Gildarts. His instantaneously punches will have the force of a mountain busting punch. He wouldn't be able to react and nor is his durability capable of withstanding that.

Gildarts threw punches in a instant casually, he destroyed a mountain casually. Add it up, Laxus gets murdered if Gildarts goes all out.

And the mountain is way bigger than Laxus" nuke, it ran off panel. Its alot wider.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fairytail/comments/35rx9m/natsu_vs_gildarts_who_would_win/

Read TheUltimateTeigu post

Makarov was proven wrong for spriggans, he has yet to be proven wrong with Gildarts. Plus Bluenote was too much of a chicken to attack Lamia Scale while Jura was around, so Jura>Bluenote.

Who cares? Destroying big things doesnt equal power, a mountain busting attacks can still do less damage than a single sword strike. AoE is just for shock and awe, plenty of big spells are weaker than small ones.

Add it up? Alright
(13 instantaneous punches that Laxus can easily block) + (the fact that all these punches have done is knock out random monster) = not a scratch
Face the facts, the feats you are using are laughable ones. Just wait til Gildarts actually gets some good feats against relevant villains, im 90% sure he'll get them eventually. Dont bother using meaningless feats agains fodder characters who dont even get their own names, no one in their right mind would take you seriously. Only relevant feats he has is against H. God Serena

 

[Woodenstool]

Makarov was proven wrong for spriggans, he has yet to be proven wrong with Gildarts. Plus Bluenote was too much of a chicken to attack Lamia Scale while Jura was around, so Jura>Bluenote.

Who cares? Destroying big things doesnt equal power, a mountain busting attacks can still do less damage than a single sword strike. AoE is just for shock and awe, plenty of big spells are weaker than small ones.

Add it up? Alright
(13 instantaneous punches that Laxus can easily block) + (the fact that all these punches have done is knock out random monster) = not a scratch
Face the facts, the feats you are using are laughable ones. Just wait til Gildarts actually gets some good feats against relevant villains, im 90% sure he'll get them eventually. Dont bother using meaningless feats agains fodder characters who dont even get their own names, no one in their right mind would take you seriously. Only relevant feats he has is against H. God Serena

Fodder doesn't matter.

And was it because of Jura? I thought they failed because Wendy rekt his shit.

 

[Seven777]

Fodder doesn't matter.

And was it because of Jura? I thought they failed because Wendy rekt his shit.

Course it matters, thats what powerscaling is all about.

Why would Bluenote be scared of Wendy recking shit? He can beat her. Bluenotes guild was stated to have waited til Jura left before they were willing to attack.

 

[Woodenstool]

Makarov was proven wrong for spriggans, he has yet to be proven wrong with Gildarts. Plus Bluenote was too much of a chicken to attack Lamia Scale while Jura was around, so Jura>Bluenote.

Who cares? Destroying big things doesnt equal power, a mountain busting attacks can still do less damage than a single sword strike. AoE is just for shock and awe, plenty of big spells are weaker than small ones.

Add it up? Alright
(13 instantaneous punches that Laxus can easily block) + (the fact that all these punches have done is knock out random monster) = not a scratch
Face the facts, the feats you are using are laughable ones. Just wait til Gildarts actually gets some good feats against relevant villains, im 90% sure he'll get them eventually. Dont bother using meaningless feats agains fodder characters who dont even get their own names, no one in their right mind would take you seriously. Only relevant feats he has is against H. God Serena

Wahl destroyed Laxus in his fight. Laxus can't counter disassembly magic.

All he does is disassembly Laxus and crush him.

Lol.

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Course it matters, thats what powerscaling is all about.

Why would Bluenote be scared of Wendy recking shit? He can beat her. Bluenotes guild was stated to have waited til Jura left before they were willing to attack.

Instantaneous =/= fast
Instant = instant
No time frame.

Gildarts did that casually, he busted a mountain with one punch. Laxus doesn't even stand a chance, his durability won't be able to withstand multiple mountain busting punches hitting him instantly.

 

[Seven777]

Wahl destroyed Laxus in his fight. Laxus can't counter disassembly magic.

All he does is disassembly Laxus and crush him.

Lol.

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Instantaneous =/= fast
Instant = instant
No time frame.

Gildarts did that casually, he busted a mountain with one punch. Laxus doesn't even stand a chance, his durability won't be able to withstand multiple mountain busting punches hitting him instantly.

Alright, this has gone on for long enough, so i'll leave the argument off with these few comments.

AoE doesnt mean shit, big attacks arent stronger than small ones. So Gildarts busting a mountain means nothing

 

[Woodenstool]

Alright, this has gone on for long enough, so i'll leave the argument off with these few comments.

AoE doesnt mean shit, big attacks arent stronger than small ones. So Gildarts busting a mountain means nothing

When you realize you counter Gildarts hax, you fail.

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Alright, this has gone on for long enough, so i'll leave the argument off with these few comments.

AoE doesnt mean shit, big attacks arent stronger than small ones. So Gildarts busting a mountain means nothing

I guess August stopping Laxus attack means nothinh

 

[SirSamuel016]

August is not stronger than a dragon, quit pulling stuff from nowhere.

Seeing August and Irene have been speculated to be around the same level, with August perhaps being stronger, I'd say it's not coming from nowhere. August has been seen as the strongest spriggan for a fair while now, so I don't see why Irene being a dragon would change too much when we consider what Brandish and others have said before.

 

[sharkai]

Seeing August and Irene have been speculated to be around the same level, with August perhaps being stronger, I'd say it's not coming from nowhere. August has been seen as the strongest spriggan for a fair while now, so I don't see why Irene being a dragon would change too much when we consider what Brandish and others have said before.

After the perhaps is nonsense
August was never implied to be the stronger. Thats just fans nonsense

Whether august can be on the same level as irene depends on him having a hax to scratch irene.
Because as far as we know
Human irene mp=august mp
Human irene physical stats>>august stats
Dragon irene physical stats >>>>>>>>> august stats

 

[Brandish μ]

Irene is a dragon. If she has August' level of magic power, then as a dragon she's got to be stronger than August. Or at least for now. I'll wait and see what August does, but Irene is the boss atm. Perhaps the portrayal is that August ~ Dragon Irene; and then it's back to square one. But none of this August can low diff/stomp Irene nonsense exists anymore. It's not possible. Unless he can use God Serena's magic.

 

[sharkai]

Irene is a dragon. If she has August' level of magic power, then as a dragon she's got to be stronger than August. Or at least for now. I'll wait and see what August does, but Irene is the boss atm. Perhaps the portrayal is that August ~ Dragon Irene; and then it's back to square one. But none of this August can low diff/stomp Irene nonsense exists anymore. It's not possible. Unless he can use God Serena's magic.

Its mostly base.
Mira and mavis both didnt know of irene dragon body.
They looked and were terrified. August wasnt hyped above base irene. Thats for sure.
And brandish just said august wasnt the strongest. He shares thst title with irene.
So i dont know what august will have to do be near irene.
Claw from her is too much. And jellal durability and endurance is couple of levels below erza.

 

[Brandish μ]

Its mostly base.
Mira and mavis both didnt know of irene dragon body.
They looked and were terrified. August wasnt hyped above base irene. Thats for sure.
And brandish just said august wasnt the strongest. He shares thst title with irene.
So i dont know what august will have to do be near irene.
Claw from her is too much. And jellal durability and endurance is couple of levels below erza.

That's what I mean though, if the portrayal (that comes from the S12/Zeref) is that August ~ Irene, then it might be for Dragon Irene. If it's for base, then I'd be saying Irene >> August, because as you said one claw can oneshot most people. I'm going to wait on August now, just to see what he can do.