dude brandish said that it would be more accurate to call him the "strongest individual " and then explained it more by saying that both august and irene share the title "the strongest individual" which means that power wise irene is at best august's equal which is my opinion and i think that that the fact that august was the one to be chosen as a general and the one to be dealt with last proves that he could even be slightly stronger .
silver wasn't the leader and not to mention that he didn't die as an antagonist while koyoka did , and jura and minerva aren't antagonists they are allies so the rule doesn't apply to them and just so that you know you are free to not be convinced by that logic but i personally have seen it in most of the situations in a lot of mangas so i really don't see any reason as to why it shouldn't apply to this situation .
Me thinking that jellal is stronger than erza is my personal opinion and its not even the main topic here , i said that august took down crime sorciere without even attacking and erza is weaker than them combined and you say "Cs are fodder without jellal. Jura takes them out himself" , i ask you about whether jellal was one shotted by neinhart or the other way around and you still didn't answer it , stop changing the subject lol
dude brandish said that it would be more accurate to call him the "strongest individual " and then explained it more by saying that both august and irene share the title "the strongest individual" which means that power wise irene is at best august's equal which is my opinion and i think that that the fact that august was the one to be chosen as a general and the one to be dealt with last proves that he could even be slightly stronger .
silver wasn't the leader and not to mention that he didn't die as an antagonist while koyoka did , and jura and minerva aren't antagonists they are allies so the rule doesn't apply to them and just so that you know you are free to not be convinced by that logic but i personally have seen it in most of the situations in a lot of mangas so i really don't see any reason as to why it shouldn't apply to this situation .
Me thinking that jellal is stronger than erza is my personal opinion and its not even the main topic here , i said that august took down crime sorciere without even attacking and erza is weaker than them combined and you say "Cs are fodder without jellal. Jura takes them out himself" , i ask you about whether jellal was one shotted by neinhart or the other way around and you still didn't answer it , stop changing the subject lol
O i didnt understand the question
Nienhart one shotted jellal
Then kagura saved him
Then jellal took five minutes to charge a spell which was as strong as yelling natsu punch or below that spell one shot nienhart
Cs are fodders without jellal. Thats a fact though
And beside august countered them one after the other.
I for one dont believe in hype in this manga.
Where it was said elememtal four are equal to fairy tail s class
And
Jura was said to be stronger than mira plus erza
Me thinking that jellal is stronger than erza is my personal opinion and its not even the main topic here , i said that august took down crime sorciere without even attacking and erza is weaker than them combined and you say "Cs are fodder without jellal. Jura takes them out himself" , i ask you about whether jellal was one shotted by neinhart or the other way around and you still didn't answer it , stop changing the subject lol
Wouldnt that brandish statement also means that august at best is equal to irene
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O i didnt understand the question
Nienhart one shotted jellal
Then kagura saved him
Then jellal took five minutes to charge a spell which was as strong as yelling natsu punch or below that spell one shot nienhart
Cs are fodders without jellal. Thats a fact though
And beside august countered them one after the other.
I for one dont believe in hype in this manga.
Where it was said elememtal four are equal to fairy tail s class
And
Jura was said to be stronger than mira plus erza
I was juat talking about the charging part.
You know when people were asking about what happened to the sky
As for 1vs 2 and 6 vs 1
People hype dehype according to their desires
The above example could be constructed as erza is stronger than cs. Or irene is a fodder to august
People decided to go with standard erza has to be weak line rather than manga hype
Wouldnt that brandish statement also means that august at best is equal to irene
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O i didnt understand the question
Nienhart one shotted jellal
Then kagura saved him
Then jellal took five minutes to charge a spell which was as strong as yelling natsu punch or below that spell one shot nienhart
Cs are fodders without jellal. Thats a fact though
And beside august countered them one after the other.
I for one dont believe in hype in this manga.
Where it was said elememtal four are equal to fairy tail s class
And
Jura was said to be stronger than mira plus erza
no dude brandish's statement can only mean that irene is at best as strong as august because he was the one mentioned first and he was actually thought to be the only one holding the title so brandish's correction can only mean that irene is at best as strong as august .
no comment about the whole jellal thing lol
anyway so you are saying that erza is stronger than the crime sorciere combined ? well then i have no more business arguing with you about that lol
no dude brandish's statement can only mean that irene is at best as strong as august because he was the one mentioned first and he was actually thought to be the only one holding the title so brandish's correction can only mean that irene is at best as strong as august .
no comment about the whole jellal thing lol
anyway so you are saying that erza is stronger than the crime sorciere combined ? well then i have no more business arguing with you about that lol
no dude brandish's statement can only mean that irene is at best as strong as august because he was the one mentioned first and he was actually thought to be the only one holding the title so brandish's correction can only mean that irene is at best as strong as august .
no comment about the whole jellal thing lol
anyway so you are saying that erza is stronger than the crime sorciere combined ? well then i have no more business arguing with you about that lol
There is one problem there
Natsu doesnt defeat the strongest opponent
His contract clearly says he takes out a normal opponent. And the boss.
The boss should technically be zeref
As far is hype goes
Irene >= august
Feats
Irene >>>>> august
i am not discussing whose stronger erza or jellal because this just a personal belief of mine that i can't back up yet so i really can't argue with you about it .
anyway you have to admit that fighting irene is different from fighting august , when both erza and wendy ganged up on irene , wendy enhanced erza's power to be able to withstand irene's basic attacks while helping her in fighting her too but we all saw what happened when irene got serious , she gave her one hit that broke most of her bones , however august fight against crime sorciere is much much different because he didn't even have to attack at all let alone get serious , all he did was to turn their magic up against them as if he was teaching them lol , its only up to you to figure out which one was more impressive , however my point stands still which is that dragon irene's feats aren't really superior to august's feats .
Look guys i really really have absolutely no interest in knowing that CS are fodders without jellal so please stop repeating that .
What i am asking for is that whether erza is stronger than CS combined or not lol
I totally agree with you he definitely can do that to dragon irene (or even human irene imo)
but do you really think that someone other than jellal will end up defeating august after all this dramatic build for the fight ?
Breaking every single bone of erza with one hit is equal to not even be able to keep jellal down. Someone who got one shot by nienhart.
And thats not dehyping. Lol
Dont worry. Every benefit of doubt will be given anyone other than erza. Even now
Soloing Jellal, a top tier arguably on par or even stronger than Erza by himself, as well as the rest of his guild is definitely equal to shattering Erza's bones.
The benefit of the doubt will be given to those who havent been shown at their limits yet. So yeah, a fairly large group of people that doesnt include Erza
Doesnt mean he doesnt have a game-plan. He planned out Natsu and Gajeel being over 80 many years before it was revealed. For all we know he's always had Erza's mum in the back of his head. Eileen being the creator of DS magic suggested that yeah, she had a fair bit of planning out.
I totally agree with you he definitely can do that to dragon irene (or even human irene imo)
but do you really think that someone other than jellal will end up defeating august after all this dramatic build for the fight ?
I mean real battle. Where a swipe of a hands break almost all bones in laxus body.
Not where even racer is just put to ground.
Top tier battle you know. He can battle fodders sure but ...
Okay Idk where Laxus comes in, but Irene with a palm swipe should hurt him similar to Erza (though Laxus is a bit tougher, he's still getting smashed).
Irene entering a dragon is going all out though. August just used their attacks, or weak ones.
Right now Irene has better feats. I'm fine with Irene > August, but I'm also not writing off August for being better than Irene. For the same reason I never wrote off Irene before when she was getting punked by Wendy and Erza.
Okay Idk where Laxus comes in, but Irene with a palm swipe should hurt him similar to Erza (though Laxus is a bit tougher, he's still getting smashed).
Irene entering a dragon is going all out though. August just used their attacks, or weak ones.
Right now Irene has better feats. I'm fine with Irene > August, but I'm also not writing off August for being better than Irene. For the same reason I never wrote off Irene before when she was getting punked by Wendy and Erza.
Soloing Jellal, a top tier arguably on par or even stronger than Erza by himself, as well as the rest of his guild is definitely equal to shattering Erza's bones.
The benefit of the doubt will be given to those who havent been shown at their limits yet. So yeah, a fairly large group of people that doesnt include Erza
Doesnt mean he doesnt have a game-plan. He planned out Natsu and Gajeel being over 80 many years before it was revealed. For all we know he's always had Erza's mum in the back of his head. Eileen being the creator of DS magic suggested that yeah, she had a fair bit of planning out.
I like how you make who ever you want top tier without having to see anything
Look i agree erza as strong if not stronger than laxus. But how the hell is jellal on par with erza with only two feats.
One being knocked out by nienhart nuke
And two powering up a mid tier move so that it had enough power to rival natsu un named punch
If august break every single bone in laxus body with one punch. I will agree he is near irene.