Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[sharkai]

While Erza was in the air flying towards the meteor she had enough time to give a long speech on the name Titania. Considering how close the meteor was to Erza while she's was giving that speech, either:
1. That meteor isn't actually as fast as light
2. Erza can speak faster than light

I think I'm gonna leave you guys to choose the more logical and rational option here folks

Erza can talk faster than speed of light. Duh

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Oh Erza is still top tier, just at the lower end(for now) where i also place Jellal. Its all nice and fair here bro.
Besides, there is room to speculate with Jellal because he hasnt really done anything. We havent seen him fight all out. Erza on the other hand was shown at her limit against Azir. So now if im gonna rank Erza above that previously established limit, im gonna have to see some new feats.
Also, Jellal was a fair bit stronger than Erza pre skip, at least imo.
When did i ever say Erza shouldnt be top tier?
I even said just a little while ago that if Erza destroys this meteor herself i'll consider her on par with Natsu and Gray.

Jellal was fair bit stronger than erza pre ts?
Where do you keep on getting these stories?

Erza against ajeel was her limit? I wonder how she is fighting aginst august equivalent now...
So if she stops the attack that will kill natsu and gray. You think she will be equal to them. Ok
I wonder if erza takes out aconologia. Would you think that she is on par with jellal

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it was not proven other wise , the only thing added by that statement is that irene is on par with august that's all .
Makarov is old while most of fairy tail are in the age of his grand children and his power stopped increasing from a long ago while theirs is increasing on every chapter ! of course he have to be surpassed lol

yet brandish knew that irene was on par with august , its very clear that irene acts with superiority over the other spriggans to the point that she ordered one of them around (neinhart) however do you see her doing this with august or zeref ? no , why ? because she ain't superior to these guys , all i can say right now is that you should and see august's fight and i am 100% that you will change your mind .

Dont know what august has to do to be above irene
Their mp are already said to be equal. Provided of course dragon irene doesnt have more mp
Stats will always go to a dragon

Maybe augsut is a god slayer or maybe has dragon slayer magic. Then maybe. Or dragon controling magic.
Otherwise irene will be highly immune to most of his magic.
And could physically stomp him.

Lets see what trump card he has which can best a dragon who has atleast same amount of mp as him

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I think it would be contradicting if August can defeat Irene, since only a DS can damage dragons. August may be stronger mp wise, but that's all.

We dont know much about august
But we do know he is not above irene mp wise

 

[Jko]

The meteor was sub relativistic and up. Talking in manga is much faster than talking irl. As people in fiction can defy logic. People with immense speeds are able to think, react, and talk as fast as they move. The Meteor crossed multiple planets worth in distance in no way was it slow.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Rank these Spriggan Attacks


Lasers of Dimaria
Command T
Melt
Fireball:Enchant
Sand World
Purgatory Dragon Slaying Magic
Anti-Material Canon

going by DC
1. Fireball: Enchant, Melt, Super Long Distance Anti-Material Magic Cannon
2. Purgatory Dragon Slaying Magic
3. Command T
4. Lasers of Dimaria
5. Sandworld

going by who is more reliable to defeat their opponents with ease
1. Command T
2. Lasers of Dimaria
3. Fireball: Enchant, Melt, Super Long Distance Anti-Material Magic Cannon, Purgatory Dragon Slaying Magic
4. Sandworld

 

[Seven777]

Jellal was fair bit stronger than erza pre ts?
Where do you keep on getting these stories?

What stories? I said imo, did i not? Or is that not allowed here?

Erza against ajeel was her limit? I wonder how she is fighting aginst august equivalent now...
So if she stops the attack that will kill natsu and gray. You think she will be equal to them. Ok
I wonder if erza takes out aconologia. Would you think that she is on par with jellal

Yep.
Fighting against August equivalent and losing, badly.
No, i said if she takes out that meteor by herself i'll consider her on par with them.
I would think she's the strongest character in FT if she did, but she wont. She probably wont even take part in the Acnologia fight

 

[Geralt of Rivia]

Rank these attack:

Roaring Thunder
Mirajane Alegria attack
Ice Devil Zeroth Long Sword
Formula 100
Sky Drill
Photon Slicer
FDK Demonlition Fist
Grand Chariot
Urano Metria

FDK Demolition Fist
Grand Chariot
Alegria Mirajane's attack
Ice Devil Zeroth Long Sword (the one Invel tanked)
Roaring Thunder (Laxus vs Jura)
Amaterasu 100
Urano Metria (Lucy vs Flare)
Photon Slicer (Erza vs Azuma)
Sky Drill (Wendy vs Chelia)

Rank these Spriggan Attacks

Lasers of Dimaria
Command T
Melt
Fireball:Enchant
Sand World
Purgatory Dragon Slaying Magic
Anti-Material Canon

Melt
Sand World
Purgatory DS Magic / Irene's Fireball enchantment
Irene's Fireball enchantment / Purgatory DS Magic
Anti-Material Canon
Dimaria's lasers
Command T

 

[Plutogrim]

Do you guys actually rank Mirajane Alegria attack high? I'll say it could heavily injured someone like Kagura.

 

[kkck]

Do you guys actually rank Mirajane Alegria attack high? I'll say it could heavily injured someone like Kagura.

I would argue alegria easily puts mira on the springan tier. Obviously she wouldn't be able to defeat all of them, the power gap between them is surprisingly high, but she would at least hold his ground against the ones that have powers within what humans can accomplish (irene is a dragon and vastly exceeds humans in general and august IMO is not a human otherwise irene would be stronger than him). I could see her going up against the likes of jacob, ajir.... While alegria lasts of course. Unfortunately she is not able to hold the transformation enough for it to be relevant.

 

[Cosmicstar]

Algeria best feat is taking down two fodder swords. Never could Algeria hurt Kagura.

Kagura>>>>>>>>>Mirajane

Mirajane isn't nearly as powerful as people are making her out to be. She never fought and won against a Spriggan member. The only thing she fought was Irene's foot soldiers. To put her on Spriggan level is seriously jumping the gun. Nothing indicates she is Spriggan level.

 

[Axiomus]

Rank these attack:

Roaring Thunder
Mirajane Alegria attack
Ice Devil Zeroth Long Sword
Formula 100
Sky Drill
Photon Slicer
FDK Demonlition Fist
Grand Chariot
Urano Metria

FDK Demolition Fist (KO'd Jacob)
Grand Chariot (KO'd Neinhart)
Roaring Thunder (Stronger than lightning dragon jaw, which can take out Hades)
Formula 100 (Heavily injured Makarov through defense)
Ice Devil Zero Longsword (takes out Ur)
Urano Metria (takes out Jackal)/Sky Drill (takes out Ezel)
Alegria (took out Juliet and Heine)
Photon Slicer (no substantial feats)

Rank these Spriggan Attacks
Lasers of Dimaria
Command T
Melt
Fireball:Enchant
Sand World
Purgatory Dragon Slaying Magic
Anti-Material Canon

In terms of expenditure of magical power:
1) Melt
2) Sand World
3) Fireball
4) Everything else

In terms of attack power:
1) Melt
2) Fireball enchant
3) Purgatory DS/Anti Material cannon
4) Command T
5) Sand world

Do you guys actually rank Mirajane Alegria attack high? I'll say it could heavily injured someone like Kagura.

I don't rank it as high as attacks from Spriggan level characters. Sure, it can probably heavily injure Kagura if it lands. I do think that Kagura can defend against a single strike from Mirajane's alegria form though, seeing as she can block at least some blows from Larcade.

 

[sardinestunasalmon]

Lucy
Juvia
Wendy

What is the strongest versions of Natsu, Gray, Gajeel, and Erza can these girls defeat individually?

Example:

Lucy:
Natsu - GMG arc
Erza - Tenrou Arc
Gray - Tartarus arc
Gajeel - Current

Basically, powerscale Lucy, Wendy and Juvia in comparison to the 4 I've mentioned to see how strong have they become over the series.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Lucy
Juvia
Wendy

What is the strongest versions of Natsu, Gray, Gajeel, and Erza can these girls defeat individually?

Example:

Lucy:
Natsu - GMG arc
Erza - Tenrou Arc
Gray - Tartarus arc
Gajeel - Current

Basically, powerscale Lucy, Wendy and Juvia in comparison to the 4 I've mentioned to see how strong have they become over the series.

Hmm... This is actually a pretty good topic to discuss.

In my opinion, all 3 girls are more or less on the same level. Juvia may fall slightly below the other 2 but not by much. Anyways, this is the ranking I'm basing my answers off of.

Weakest to Strongest:

1. GMG Base Natsu
2. Tartaros Base Gray ≈ Tartaros LFD Natsu (Torafusa/Temepsta's Level)
3. Tartaros Erza (Kyōka's Level)
4. Tartaros DeS Gray ≈ Tartaros DF Natsu (Mard Geer's Level)
5. Current Gajeel (Spriggan Level)

**Note: Lucy, Wendy, and Juvia are all around Tartaros Erza's level (#3).

Current Lucy's Feats:

• Struggled with Passive Brandish (Mid-Tier Spriggan)
• Couldn't defeat Jacob (Low-Tier Spriggan)
• Conclusion: Tartaros Erza's Level (Kyōka's Level)

**Note: Lucy was struggling with Brandish who was holding back. And she couldn't outclass Jacob in pure CQC. As a result, I don't think she could beat Mard Geer who comes closest to being Spriggan level for a pre-timeskip character.

Current Wendy's Feats:

• Failed to damage Dimaria in DF (Mid-Tier Spriggan)
• Barely won against Historia Ezel in DF
  
• Struggled against Bluenote in Base Form
• Conclusion: Tartaros Erza's Level (Kyōka's Level)

**Note: The fact that Wendy couldn't beat a Spriggan in DF tells us that she isn't Spriggan level. Not to mention, she couldn't defeat pre-timeskip characters (Ezel and Bluenote) very easily. Hence, I don't think she would be able to beat Mard Geer who overwhelmed Tartaros DF Natsu + Tartaros DeS Gray.

Current Juvia's Feats:

• Needed Meredy's Help against Historia Keyes
• Matched Gray in CQC for a little while
  
• Destroyed Wahl's Weakness Robots
• Conclusion: Tartaros Erza's Level (Kyōka's Level)

**Note: Juvia is a little tricky. Her first feat is extremely lacking. However, her other two feats are acceptable. I'm willing to put her on Lucy's and Wendy's level through portrayal. After all, she was on their level before the timeskip. If you want to put her a little below, I'm quite alright with that.

 

[Kiki]

Rank these attack:

Roaring Thunder
Mirajane Alegria attack
Ice Devil Zeroth Long Sword
Formula 100
Sky Drill
Photon Slicer
FDK Demonlition Fist
Grand Chariot
Urano Metria

FDK Demolition Fist/Grand Chariot/Urano Metria
Roaring Thunder/Ice Devil Zeroth Long Sword
Formula 100
Mirajane Alegria Attack
Sky Drill/Photon Slicer

I mainly base on whether they are a finisher or not. The last ones are not a finisher.

Rank these Spriggan Attacks


Lasers of Dimaria
Command T
Melt
Fireball:Enchant
Sand World
Purgatory Dragon Slaying Magic
Anti-Material Canon

August/DiMaria's laser. More concentrated, more lethal. Directly piercing through body.
Command T has potential, but since it's hax, it has limit like not being able to work on stronger opponents. Melt is full hype. Unfortunately it was interrupted by UO.
Enchantment: Fireball (easily countered by another enchanter)/Purgatory DSM/Anti-Material Canon (can keep its DC even though it traveled 400 km)
Sand World

 

[Arjuna]

FDK Demolition Fist/Grand Chariot/Urano Metria
Roaring Thunder/Ice Devil Zeroth Long Sword
Formula 100
Mirajane Alegria Attack
Sky Drill/Photon Slicer

I mainly base on whether they are a finisher or not. The last ones are not a finisher.

August/DiMaria's laser. More concentrated, more lethal. Directly piercing through body.
Command T has potential, but since it's hax, it has limit like not being able to work on stronger opponents. Melt is full hype. Unfortunately it was interrupted by UO.
Enchantment: Fireball (easily countered by another enchanter)/Purgatory DSM/Anti-Material Canon (can keep its DC even though it traveled 400 km)
Sand World

I doubt that it could keep up it's DC.After all Dimaria said if it had hit Hargeon it would have blown up whole Hargeon city and therefore a city buster attack.But when it reached Magnolia it could only destroy BP ship and didn't affect the town itself.

 

[Brandish μ]

Rank these attack:

Roaring Thunder
Mirajane Alegria attack
Ice Devil Zeroth Long Sword
Formula 100
Sky Drill
Photon Slicer
FDK Demonlition Fist
Grand Chariot
Urano Metria

I'm accounting for them used at full power...

FDK Demolition Fist/Roaring Thunder
Urano Metria
Miralegria
Grand Chariot
Ice Devil Zeroth Longsword
Ama 100
Sky Drill
Photon Slicer

 

[Kiki]

I doubt that it could keep up it's DC.After all Dimaria said if it had hit Hargeon it would have blown up whole Hargeon city and therefore a city buster attack.But when it reached Magnolia it could only destroy BP ship and didn't affect the town itself.

Good point, though we don't know the distance between DiMaria, Wall, Neinhart's ship and Hargeon, and between Hargeon and Magnolia, which one is farthest. Christina was up in the sky so it could be the anti-material cannon exploded due to Christina without devastating Magnolia. Wall did target Magnolia, not Hargeon. DiMaria also said she was glad it didn't hit Magnolia because Brandish was in Magnolia.

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Oh my bad, the distance between their ship and Hargeon is 30 km, and 400 km is probably between their ship and Magnolia.

 

[Arjuna]

Good point, though we don't know the distance between DiMaria, Wall, Neinhart's ship and Hargeon, and between Hargeon and Magnolia, which one is farthest. Christina was up in the sky so it could be the anti-material cannon exploded due to Christina without devastating Magnolia. Wall did target Magnolia, not Hargeon. DiMaria also said she was glad it didn't hit Magnolia because Brandish was in Magnolia.

--- Double Post Merged, Jan 24, 2017, Original Post Date: Jan 24, 2017 ---

Oh my bad, the distance between their ship and Hargeon is 30 km, and 400 km is probably between their ship and Magnolia.

But my point is that Ahmad even if it had hit Christina it should have created enough explosions to damage Magnolia if not outright destroy it as it was hyped to be a city buster attack.The only explanation i get is that it's DC decreased with the enormous distance it covered.

 

[Jko]

Lucy
Juvia
Wendy

What is the strongest versions of Natsu, Gray, Gajeel, and Erza can these girls defeat individually?

Example:

Lucy:
Natsu - GMG arc
Erza - Tenrou Arc
Gray - Tartarus arc
Gajeel - Current

Basically, powerscale Lucy, Wendy and Juvia in comparison to the 4 I've mentioned to see how strong have they become over the series.

Lucy:
Tartarus Arc Natsu (All Forms)
Tartarus Arc Erza (All Armors)
Tartarus Arc Gray (All Forms)
Tartarus Arc Gajeel (All Forms)

Wendy:
Tartarus Arc Natsu (All Forms)
Tartarus Arc Erza (All Armors)
Tartarus Arc Gray (All Forms)
Tartarus Arc Gajeel (All Forms)

Juvia:
GMG Arc Natsu (Base)
Pre-Second Origin Erza
Tartarus Arc Gray (Base)
Tartarus Arc Gajeel (Base)

Juvia feats are pretty lackluster as of late. She still needed help to beat Keyes .

However, Lucy and Wendy got some quality feats this arc tho. Like seriously they have showed versatility, power, and speed. Poor Juvia got left in the dust .

 

[Axiomus]

Lucy
Juvia
Wendy

What is the strongest versions of Natsu, Gray, Gajeel, and Erza can these girls defeat individually?

Example:

Lucy:
Natsu - GMG arc
Erza - Tenrou Arc
Gray - Tartarus arc
Gajeel - Current

Basically, powerscale Lucy, Wendy and Juvia in comparison to the 4 I've mentioned to see how strong have they become over the series.

Seeing as there's a basically only a 2 week difference in time between the Grand Magic Games and the Tartarus arc, I consider both these arcs to just be X791.

Lucy:
X791 Natsu, if he doesn't access dragon force. Base would be high difficulty. LFD would be extreme difficulty.
X791 Gray before he received SIlver's power. High difficulty.
X791 Erza before she unleashed second origin. Extreme difficulty.
X791 Gajeel. Base would be high. ISD would be extreme difficulty.

Wendy:
Basically the same as Lucy, except she can take DF Natsu and Erza without second origin as well.
Half a tier less difficult for all her fights from Lucy.

Juvia:
No version of X791 for any of these characters.
Tenrou Island version of Natsu, and Gajeel and Gray. Extreme difficulty.
No version of Erza.

 

[Kiki]

But my point is that Ahmad even if it had hit Christina it should have created enough explosions to damage Magnolia if not outright destroy it as it was hyped to be a city buster attack.The only explanation i get is that it's DC decreased with the enormous distance it covered.

Ah I see.. I think it would have only destroyed FT guild, not Magnolia. It is just DiMaria hyping Wall's anti-material cannon by saying it would have destroyed Hargeon/Magnolia. Ok (y)

 

[Arjuna]

Ah I see.. I think it would have only destroyed FT guild, not Magnolia. It is just DiMaria hyping Wall's anti-material cannon by saying it would have destroyed Hargeon/Magnolia. Ok (y)

Hmm that can also be the case.But there was no enemies to hype the Spriggans and i believe Dimaria had seen Wahl's Canon in action.