Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

EmberSpirit · Jul 8, 2017

Cosmicstar said:
It wasn't a big hole it was a small one last time I checked. It was about 5 Alveraz soldiers across. You legit see Soldiers standing next to it. That was nothing compared to what the CSK did.

Also Someone like August took damage from a regular sword.

Where as the CSK got pierced by infinite amount of thorns and was left unscathed. August got pierced with a regular sword and fell to the ground.

All these people were injured by piercing attacks. All within the Alveraz Arc. Unlike the CSK none were left unscathed. Thus by deduction CSK durability outclasses most of the Alveraz characters power. None of the Spriggan 12 can tank Thorns Ramble.

So no only the fans have really thrown powerscaling out the window. As far as durability and destructive power the CSK outclasses majority of the people in the Alveraz arc. Actions speak louder than hype.

You seem to be living in the delusional world where CSK didn't get turned into swiss cheese by Mard's casual thorns. He could heal it off, but that doesn't make him any more durable than the War God Natsu blow up. Mard used stronger thorn attacks against dragon slayers when they were vastly inferior to their Alvarez selves. None of them had their body get pierced left and right to the extent CSK did. All of the attacks you have shown surpasses anything Mard and CSK is capable of.

CSK couldn't even really scratch Base Mard, best he could do was buy time with his ultimate attack which is no different than any insta freeze we have seen from ice mages lul, if not worse because lets be honest even Invel freezing Natsu who is vastly superior to Mard at this point is better than anything CSK has done :yodawg

Luca Blight · Jul 8, 2017

Laxus + DSM + Enchantment couldn't do shit to Human-Acno.
Injured Wankza + no DSM + no Enchantment smacked RoT Acno without mercy.

RoT-Acno >> Dragon Acno > Human-Acno.

Conclusion: Wankza >>>>>>>>>>>>> Laxus.

Demon Hunter · Jul 8, 2017

yep, its over.

1. Plotsu
2. Plotza
3. Acnologia
4. FH Zeref
the rest

Cosmicstar · Jul 8, 2017

Axiomus said:
CSK is a Spirit so he can regenerate. We saw that when Loke gets a hole blown through him that he doesn't really have blood, organs, and anything like that. So long as the injury doesn't force him back into the Spirit World, the Spirit King would eventually heal up. The thorns actually penetrated his body and armour. I consider thorn brambles less impressive than many of the attacks you've shown. Again, I don't see Sting and Rogue simply being able to break Brandish's knife like they did with Mard's thorns. Bloodman can actually cast thorn brambles, and it's not his strongest attack. It would be extremely odd if he couldn't tank it. I think most slashing or piercing attacks by anyone Kagura's level or higher would penetrate the CSK's armour like thorn brambles (at least the version from Tartarus). It's just a question of whether or not you can deal enough damage to the CSK to send him back to the Spirit Realm, or whether he can heal it.

Leo is clearly shown coughing up blood or bleeding. These are facts shown right to you. CSK on the other hand was left unbruised. Unscathed per Marde Geer words and what is shown. These are flat out facts shown and stated.

How is an endless amount of thorns piercing someone's body less impressive than a regular knife slicing Brandish up or a sword from Brandish piercing August and making him fall to the ground. Both were just regular swords. They weren't magical. Not shown nor stated to be magical.

No offense but you are trying to hard to belittle feats while not providing any feat yourself. Show me a destructive feats from each Alveraz character that surpasses the CSK. No hype. It either shows better destructive feats or it shows better durability feats. Being a Spriggan matters not as that is just hype. Show me feats.

Hiro is not the real problem when it comes to powerscaling you people are. Are you seriously trying to claim a regular knife>>>>>>>Endless thorns piercing your body. You are only saying that because it came from an Alveraz character. People like you believe an attack is more powerful in the later arcs without any concrete proof.

How powerful the attack is comes from the destructiveness of the attack.

Demon Hunter · Jul 8, 2017

if Loke can put up a fight against one of the demons of Tartaros (not win obviously), then CSK who is miles above Loke is also far above Natsu during Tartaros arc.

Axiomus · Jul 8, 2017

Cosmicstar said:
Leo is clearly shown coughing up blood or bleeding. These are facts shown right to you. CSK on the other hand was left unbruised. Unscathed per Marde Geer words and what is shown. These are flat out facts shown and stated.

How is an endless amount of thorns piercing someone's body less impressive than a regular knife slicing Brandish up or a sword from Brandish piercing August and making him fall to the ground. Both were just regular swords. They weren't magical. Not shown nor stated to be magical.

No offense but you are trying to hard to belittle feats while not providing any feat yourself. Show me a destructive feats from each Alveraz character that surpasses the CSK. No hype. It either shows better destructive feats or it shows better durability feats. Being a Spriggan matters not as that is just hype. Show me feats.

Hiro is not the real problem when it comes to powerscaling you people are. Are you seriously trying to claim a regular knife>>>>>>>Endless thorns piercing your body. You are only saying that because it came from an Alveraz character. People like you believe an attack is more powerful in the later arcs without any concrete proof.

How powerful the attack is comes from the destructiveness of the attack.

Well, maybe Loke was shown having blood. I was mistaken on that. But either way, it doesn't change the fact that CSK was indeed penetrated by Mard's thorns. You can see the cracks in his armour in the bottom third panel. He just regenerated afterwards. Again, below is the CSK being pierced.CSK wasn't pierced by an infinite amount of thorns. CSK was not pierced by a finite amount of thorns. Mard Geer simply said that the thorns can keep growing forever. It's not an infinite amount of thorns all at once.

Brandish had to use magic to increase the mass of that knife, so there's no reason to assume that knife was any less magical than a sword created by Gray's ice-magic. If Brandish's knife can pierce August's body, then it can probably pierce the body of any individual it hits that is weaker than August. That is almost everybody. I don't see why you think it's a less impressive attack than Mard's thorns. Is it just because Mard Geer says his thorns can keep growing forever? We've seen Natsu, Gray, Sting, and Rogue get hit by thorns and/or destroy them with their hands. I would say nearly every pre-ts character on Sabertooth level can deal with thorn brambles, let alone the Spriggans.

Like I mentioned in an earlier post, Ikusatsunagi's slash is actually larger in scale than CSK's meteor blade. It runs the length of several cities and cuts apart two mountains. Cube itself is only a fraction the size of Magnolia (1/3 of Magnolia if we're being generous). Other slashing attacks like Archnemesis are city-block slasher. I think we can all safely assume that if Sting and Rogue can cut thorns, then Kagura with archnemesis can cut thorns as well. Larcade can block archnemesis with his fingers. AoE simply isn't everything.

Natsu can one-shot characters that would have been considered a top tier before the timeskip like Bluenote. A Spriggan like God Serena can solo the entire ensemble of top tier characters with half his available abilities. Jellal and Erza have reached the point where they can push around Acnologia. The main characters downright say that Ajeel and Brandish have more power than anyone they've ever met before. Can you blame me for assuming the Alvarez arc power levels are on a whole just stronger than Tartarus? Unless the Spirit King makes an appearance in this arc, we really only have his feats against Mard Geer to judge him off of. Being unscathed from thorn brambles and mountain busting AoE only gets you so far. The current top tiers of the series can warp the landscape of a country, break the fabric of reality, surpass time itself, and defeat someone with infinite magical power.

Jean Grey said:
if Loke can put up a fight against one of the demons of Tartaros (not win obviously), then CSK who is miles above Loke is also far above Natsu during Tartaros arc.

I can agree with this. But Natsu during Avatar arc? The same Natsu that can one or two hit Spriggan 12 members, beat Zeref with infinite power, and take attacks from Acnologia?

Demon Hunter · Jul 8, 2017

Axiomus said:
I can agree with this. But Natsu during Avatar arc? The same Natsu that can one or two hit Spriggan 12 members, beat Zeref with infinite power, and take attacks from Acnologia?

lol

Alvarez Natsu is the strongest being in the manga.

he might as well be above Son Goku.

Cosmicstar · Jul 8, 2017

Axiomus said:
Well, maybe Loke was shown having blood. I was mistaken on that. But either way, it doesn't change the fact that CSK was indeed penetrated by Mard's thorns. You can see the cracks in his armour in the bottom third panel. He just regenerated afterwards. Again, below is the CSK being pierced.CSK wasn't pierced by an infinite amount of thorns. CSK was not pierced by a finite amount of thorns. Mard Geer simply said that the thorns can keep growing forever. It's not an infinite amount of thorns all at once.

Brandish had to use magic to increase the mass of that knife, so there's no reason to assume that knife was any less magical than a sword created by Gray's ice-magic. If Brandish's knife can pierce August's body, then it can probably pierce the body of any individual it hits that is weaker than August. That is almost everybody. I don't see why you think it's a less impressive attack than Mard's thorns. Is it just because Mard Geer says his thorns can keep growing forever? We've seen Natsu, Gray, Sting, and Rogue get hit by thorns and/or destroy them with their hands. I would say nearly every pre-ts character on Sabertooth level can deal with thorn brambles, let alone the Spriggans.

Like I mentioned in an earlier post, Ikusatsunagi's slash is actually larger in scale than CSK's meteor blade. It runs the length of several cities and cuts apart two mountains. Cube itself is only a fraction the size of Magnolia (1/3 of Magnolia if we're being generous). Other slashing attacks like Archnemesis are city-block slasher. I think we can all safely assume that if Sting and Rogue can cut thorns, then Kagura with archnemesis can cut thorns as well. Larcade can block archnemesis with his fingers. AoE simply isn't everything.

Natsu can one-shot characters that would have been considered a top tier before the timeskip like Bluenote. A Spriggan like God Serena can solo the entire ensemble of top tier characters with half his available abilities. Jellal and Erza have reached the point where they can push around Acnologia. The main characters downright say that Ajeel and Brandish have more power than anyone they've ever met before. Can you blame me for assuming the Alvarez arc power levels are on a whole just stronger than Tartarus? Unless the Spirit King makes an appearance in this arc, we really only have his feats against Mard Geer to judge him off of. Being unscathed from thorn brambles and mountain busting AoE only gets you so far. The current top tiers of the series can warp the landscape of a country, break the fabric of reality, surpass time itself, and defeat someone with infinite magical power.

I can agree with this. But Natsu during Avatar arc? The same Natsu that can one or two hit Spriggan 12 members, beat Zeref with infinite power, and take attacks from Acnologia?

Your post is filled with irrelevant information. None of the Dragon slayers got pierced by the thorns. I didn't see 1 panel showing that. Kagura slash is nowhere near the size of the CSK.

The Cube is bigger than 1/3 the size of Magnolia

You can see the Tartarous Building on top of Plutogrim.

This is the Size of Magnolia

They are clearly close in size. That is just top Plutogrim. Add all 6 sides and it eclipses the size of Magnolia atleast by a factor of 3.

Meteor Slash eclipses Plutogrim:

Bluenote has nowhere near the power of the CSK
Serena has nowhere near the power of the CSK.

vs

Serena nor God Serena destructive capability is of that of the CSK.[/Spoiler]

Axiomus · Jul 8, 2017

Cosmicstar said:
Your post is filled with irrelevant information. None of the Dragon slayers got pierced by the thorns. I didn't see 1 panel showing that. Kagura slash is nowhere near the size of the CSK.

The Cube is bigger than 1/3 the size of Magnolia

You can see the Tartarous Building on top of Plutogrim.

This is the Size of Magnolia

They are clearly close in size. That is just top Plutogrim. Add all 6 sides and it eclipses the size of Magnolia atleast by a factor of 3.

Meteor Slash eclipses Plutogrim:

Bluenote has nowhere near the power of the CSK
Serena has nowhere near the power of the CSK.

vs

Serena nor God Serena destructive capability is of that of the CSK.[/Spoiler]

Cube being 1/3 the size of Magnolia is actually generous. It is nowhere near the size of an actual city. Cube is nowhere near the size of Magnolia. Magnolia is surrounded by mountain ranges. Cube is, at most, as large as a single one of those mountain. Tops. The anime isn't even as generous to Cube size as I am. It shows it as a tiny fraction of Magnolia from an aerial view.

By virtue that you can still see the sky as cube hovers above Magnolia, you can probably engulf the entirety of the cube in something like Ajeel's sand world. Ajeel's sand world is larger than Magnolia. Freed's jutsu shiki is already as large as Magnolia. Sand world covers that, and then some. Even if CSK's slash runs 3-4x the length of cube, that would still only be a city slasher. It would probably cover the length of Magnolia. Something like Ikusatsunagi's slash covers the length of 4-6 cities, and cuts apart two large mountains. Ikusatsunagi's sword itself is almost half the diameter of a city all by itself. The dust that he kicks up behind him is enough to cover a city all by itself to be honest. Ikusatsunag is simply larger. Now I happen to think the Spirit King is still more powerful than the God of War, but in terms of sheer scale pretty much nothing beats Ikusatsunagi, except for Universe 1 and maybe Wall's 400km cannon. The thing is just huge. If it just laid down in the middle of that city beside it and just started making a snow angel, it would destroy that city.

God Serena may not have CSK's AoE, but he has knocked out opponents stronger and with more ease than Mard Geer has. CSK wasn't able to take out Mard in a direct fight. You can argue that he has way more impressive AoE than Mard, but so do a whole bunch of other characters. I don't think it's irrelevant. The dragon slayers not getting pierced by thorns, at least not Mards thorns, just tells me that thorns aren't really that effective in taking out its intended targets. That's why Mard has stronger attacks.

LaGOAT · Jul 8, 2017

Cosmicstar said:
Your post is filled with irrelevant information. None of the Dragon slayers got pierced by the thorns. I didn't see 1 panel showing that. Kagura slash is nowhere near the size of the CSK.

The Cube is bigger than 1/3 the size of Magnolia

You can see the Tartarous Building on top of Plutogrim.

This is the Size of Magnolia

They are clearly close in size. That is just top Plutogrim. Add all 6 sides and it eclipses the size of Magnolia atleast by a factor of 3.

Meteor Slash eclipses Plutogrim:

Bluenote has nowhere near the power of the CSK
Serena has nowhere near the power of the CSK.

vs

Serena nor God Serena destructive capability is of that of the CSK.[/Spoiler]

by ur logic csk>Fh zeref because zeref didnt show a destructive feat :cookiehand

DC isnt everything haxs can overcome DC. natsu oneshoted a wargod that we could say is the same size as CSK. the same natsu that needed FDKM to beat a sprrigan. base natsu alone solos Csk and mard geer bro same as the spraggans excpet for nienhart every1 else has haxs or the firepower to solo csk. he isnt a threat to the 11 sprrigans

honestly i dont why im here told myself that i wouldnt come here to debate now ever again :cookiearf

Seven777 · Jul 8, 2017

Plutogrim is maybe a bit bigger than the cathedral Gildarts busted against August.

Size doesnt mean shit anyway.

Demon Hunter · Jul 8, 2017

alright, since nobody is gonna get new feats bar Fire Lightning Sky Poison White Shadow Iron Dragon King Natsu (I won't include that form), rate this FT characters.

you can include Legendary Spells and PoF, because you know, its the main source of power.

Natsu, Erza, Lucy, Gray, Juvia, Mirajane, Laxus, Gajeel, Gildarts, Lisanna, Makarov, Cana, Elfman, Mavis (no FH or immortality).

Luca Blight · Jul 9, 2017

Bullshit: On/ Portrayal: Off:

1. Plotsu
2. Plotza
3. Gildarts
4. Laxus
5. Gray/Gajeel (DF)
6. Elfman
7. Lisanna
8. Mirajane/Cana
9. Makarov
10. Juvia

I don't know about Mavis.

Seven777 · Jul 9, 2017

They're all the same, anyone can do anything as long as they have PoF and the plot behind them. Might as well start ignoring feats now, they dont mean anything

Demon Hunter · Jul 9, 2017

Seven777 said:
They're all the same, anyone can do anything as long as they have PoF and the plot behind them. Might as well start ignoring feats now, they dont mean anything

truer words have never been spoken.

but what the heck, lets play along.

Star Frost · Jul 9, 2017

Jean Grey said:
alright, since nobody is gonna get new feats bar Fire Lightning Sky Poison White Shadow Iron Dragon King Natsu (I won't include that form), rate this FT characters.

you can include Legendary Spells and PoF, because you know, its the main source of power.

Natsu, Erza, Lucy, Gray, Juvia, Mirajane, Laxus, Gajeel, Gildarts, Lisanna, Makarov, Cana, Elfman, Mavis (no FH or immortality).

Before I start rating, I'm not so sure but just curious on what would you say about Lucy since she can use Fairy Sphere and able to rewrite END's book with the letters being demonic?

Axiomus · Jul 9, 2017

Star Frost said:
Before I start rating, I'm not so sure but just curious on what would you say about Lucy since she can use Fairy Sphere and able to rewrite END's book with the letters being demonic?

I think both proves that Lucy is pretty smart and has a good memory. Not quite sure what it says about Lucy's power when it comes to fighting. Rewriting the book of END doesn't seem to take extraordinary amounts of power. Fairy Sphere takes everyone's magical power and emotions to cast. Though again, I can't imagine the spell being that easy to learn in such a short time. So if Lucy learned it this fast, she must have a pretty good memory.

Demon Hunter · Jul 9, 2017

Star Frost said:
Before I start rating, I'm not so sure but just curious on what would you say about Lucy since she can use Fairy Sphere and able to rewrite END's book with the letters being demonic?

nothing.

just rate her based on your opinion.

Star Frost · Jul 9, 2017

Axiomus said:
I think both proves that Lucy is pretty smart and has a good memory. Not quite sure what it says about Lucy's power when it comes to fighting. Rewriting the book of END doesn't seem to take extraordinary amounts of power. Fairy Sphere takes everyone's magical power and emotions to cast. Though again, I can't imagine the spell being that easy to learn in such a short time. So if Lucy learned it this fast, she must have a pretty good memory.

I thought Mavis said back in Tenrou Island she had to give it her all to use everybody's strengths to have it activated? And no I don't mean her knowing what to write in the book, I mean being able to write in the book. Zeref's was shocked of how a human was able to handle the demonic letters to write in the book so it must require something like maybe either power or endurance?

Seven777 · Jul 9, 2017

Jean Grey said:
truer words have never been spoken.

but what the heck, lets play along.

I suppose i might as well, this piece of shit will be done in a couple of weeks.

1. Gildarts
2. Laxus
3. Gray
4. Gajeel
5. Mirajane
6. Makarov
7. Mavis
8. Elfman
9. Cana
10. Lucy
11. Juvia
12. Lissana

Natsu and Erza dont exist in my mind anymore. You can chuck em both just a smidgen above Elfman if youre really curious where i'd put them.

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