Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Woodenstool]

I already debunked this. Natsu is immune to fire but he couldn't negate the whole attack to protect his friends, it was just too big.

Future Natsu was eating direct blast from dragons who are far stronger than the Spriggans. No one was even hurt by August' spell, cause Natsu protected them

 

[sharkai]

Springgans were so strong, they were said to rival power of the Wizard saint number 1, God Serena.

let assume all Springgans are atleast as strong as Serena, there mp far exceed the strongest ishagar mages
(ie nienhart or jacob mp >> gildart, laxus, natsu, hybrion mp)

where would they stand compared to the majestic race of dragons. ignore dragon magic immunity

assume three tiers of dragons
low tier like zirconis
mid tier like motherglare, atlas flame, parent dragons
top tier like igneel, aconologia

consider also all 7 tired ds combined magic was enough to one shot the strongest of the dragon powered up aconologia
consider also tired erza was able to blow, powered up dragon aconologia out of the sky (ignore his mind state here)
consider also tired jellal blitzing dragon aconologia, even though he couldnt blitz august

could springgan 12 combined take out aconologia
could a normal springgan stand up to a low or mid tier dragon

if you dont like the assumptions given above, please atleast use them, and also give your opinion with your own assumptions.
do you think a springgan, even the strongest non ds springgan like august can over come dragon magic immunity, if so which tier dragon immunity.
what would difference in springgan mp and dragon mp

 

[SleipnirX]

let's assume all Springgans are atleast as strong as Serena, there mp far exceed the strongest ishagar mages
(ie nienhart or jacob mp >> gildart, laxus, natsu, hybrion mp)

I'd say that's a big assumption, and one that's probably demonstrably incorrect. The power scaling by this arc is just about nonexistent, but there's just enough integrity left to be able to say some Spriggans were glass cannons who only had hax magic in their favour (Mashima even said they all used 'cheating' magic) and would probably be completely useless against any Dragon (like how even Laxus was at the end of the GMG, and I'd argue he at least at that point was on a similar level considering he was above Jura who was then the highest ranked non-GoI Wizard Saint)

So yeah, hax Magic aside, I wouldn't say any of them, sans potentially Irene would be any sort of match for a Dragon. Nor would I say they'd get anywhere together unless Irene was carrying the brunt of the fight. Difficult to say how their magic would impact proceedings, because you're getting into the realms of Plot induced Stupidity there. But I think it's safe to say the S12 were massively overhyped.

 

[Anti Hero 3:16]

I think only irene and august can be compared to dragons
Dragons>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Humans
Spriggans are still human even if they are kind of human at there exterem limit except larcade & bradman but there endurance is very craappy.
.

 

[Natsu1990]

7fd is natsu's most powerful attack, flames of emotion/flames of wild emotion 2nd most powerful attack and his half dragon form is his third most powerful attack

 

[Arjuna]

he turned that shit into flame

No you can easily see other elements other than fire in the picture

Spoiler

 

[Demon Hunter]

No you can easily see other elements other than fire in the picture

Spoiler

yeah, at the beginning but when he one shotted Acnologia (I cannot believe it come to this) he turned it into flame.

 

[Natsu1990]

So his most powerful attack 7fd is also his confusing combo then turned into fire

 

[Anti Hero 3:16]

yeah, at the beginning but when he one shotted Acnologia (I cannot believe it come to this) he turned it into flame.

Ah don't make me remember that. The fights this arc are so short and bull that it is beyond help.
Honestly why didn't the 5 ds underwent dragonification for a fight with acno.

 

[Arjuna]

I'd say that's a big assumption, and one that's probably demonstrably incorrect. The power scaling by this arc is just about nonexistent, but there's just enough integrity left to be able to say some Spriggans were glass cannons who only had hax magic in their favour (Mashima even said they all used 'cheating' magic) and would probably be completely useless against any Dragon (like how even Laxus was at the end of the GMG, and I'd argue he at least at that point was on a similar level considering he was above Jura who was then the highest ranked non-GoI Wizard Saint)

So yeah, hax Magic aside, I wouldn't say any of them, sans potentially Irene would be any sort of match for a Dragon. Nor would I say they'd get anywhere together unless Irene was carrying the brunt of the fight. Difficult to say how their magic would impact proceedings, because you're getting into the realms of Plot induced Stupidity there. But I think it's safe to say the S12 were massively overhyped.

God Serena is also there.

But i will say all Spriggans apart from the top 3 have M.P. near the level of GMG Dragons.Only the top three-August,Irene and Larcade should have comparable M.P. to an average GMG Dragon.

But as they(apart from two) lack Dragon Slaying Magic they can't beat the Dragons.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Dragons are way above Fodder 12.

 

[Anti Hero 3:16]

Dragons are way above Fodder 12.

Except irene who herself is a dragon and august who is born from a infinite magic and fodderising both gidarts and jellal.
Rest are definitely fodder 10 and way below dragons.

 

[Woodenstool]

God Serena is also there.

But i will say all Spriggans apart from the top 3 have M.P. near the level of GMG Dragons.Only the top three-August,Irene and Larcade should have comparable M.P. to an average GMG Dragon.

But as they(apart from two) lack Dragon Slaying Magic they can't beat the Dragons.

How did you measure the amount of magic the dragons have? What the are you even talking about? Lol.

Did you just assume that? My god...
"August and Irene have magic on the level of dragons" lol

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Except irene who herself is a dragon and august who is born from a infinite magic and fodderising both gidarts and jellal.
Rest are definitely fodder 10 and way below dragons.

Gildarts wasn't fodder, he literally blitz stomp August and split him into pieces the first second of the fight.

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So his most powerful attack 7fd is also his confusing combo then turned into fire

Zeref scales higher than Acnologia. Infinite magic far surpasses any of Acnollgias feats.

He was able to rewrite reality. Acnologia can't do shit.

 

[Natsu1990]

How did you measure the amount of magic the dragons have? What the are you even talking about? Lol.

Did you just assume that? My god...
"August and Irene have magic on the level of dragons" lol

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Gildarts wasn't fodder, he literally blitz stomp August and split him into pieces the first second of the fight.

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Zeref scales higher than Acnologia. Infinite magic far surpasses any of Acnollgias feats.

He was able to rewrite reality. Acnologia can't do shit.

So what order do these 3 attacks go in weakest to strongest natsu half dragon, flames of emotion/flames of wild emotion & seven fire dragons

 

[Woodenstool]

Flames of emotions destroyed an immortal with infinite time magic.

Combined magic killed a weakened Supressed Acnologia.

 

[Natsu1990]

Flames of emotions destroyed an immortal with infinite time magic.

Combined magic killed a weakened Supressed Acnologia.

What about flames of emotion vs half dragon Natsu

 

[SleipnirX]

God Serena is also there.

But i will say all Spriggans apart from the top 3 have M.P. near the level of GMG Dragons.Only the top three-August,Irene and Larcade should have comparable M.P. to an average GMG Dragon.

But as they(apart from two) lack Dragon Slaying Magic they can't beat the Dragons.

In terms just of how much MP they actually have available to them to use? Maybe so, but we never really get a quantifiable look into the mechanics of that. In terms of actual damage output, nowhere near... just in a completely different league... Serena, well we don't really have any point of reference, other than that he was stronger than the other GoI put together, but still a minnow to Acnologia - who Igneel was able to worry to a certain degree in his diminished end of Tartaros state... like I say, the power scaling post timeskip is just so severely broken, you could probably make a fact-based argument for a lot of stuff that would sound quite weird.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Springgans were so strong, they were said to rival power of the Wizard saint number 1, God Serena.

let assume all Springgans are atleast as strong as Serena, there mp far exceed the strongest ishagar mages
(ie nienhart or jacob mp >> gildart, laxus, natsu, hybrion mp)

where would they stand compared to the majestic race of dragons. ignore dragon magic immunity

assume three tiers of dragons
low tier like zirconis
mid tier like motherglare, atlas flame, parent dragons
top tier like igneel, aconologia

consider also all 7 tired ds combined magic was enough to one shot the strongest of the dragon powered up aconologia
consider also tired erza was able to blow, powered up dragon aconologia out of the sky (ignore his mind state here)
consider also tired jellal blitzing dragon aconologia, even though he couldnt blitz august

could springgan 12 combined take out aconologia
could a normal springgan stand up to a low or mid tier dragon

if you dont like the assumptions given above, please atleast use them, and also give your opinion with your own assumptions.
do you think a springgan, even the strongest non ds springgan like august can over come dragon magic immunity, if so which tier dragon immunity.
what would difference in springgan mp and dragon mp

It's hard to say at this point, given the recent chapter...

The only ones who should come close to being dragon level are August, Irene, and God Serena. Even then, I would only put them on the the likes of a low-tier dragon. DF Natsu, on the other hand, has a chance at beating a mid-tier dragon.

Nobody should be able to beat a high-tier or top-tier dragon by himself, in my opinion. Last chapter was a bit disappointing but I'm just going to chalk it up as PoF.

 

[Arjuna]

How did you measure the amount of magic the dragons have? What the are you even talking about? Lol.

Did you just assume that? My god...
"August and Irene have magic on the level of dragons" lol

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Gildarts wasn't fodder, he literally blitz stomp August and split him into pieces the first second of the fight.

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Zeref scales higher than Acnologia. Infinite magic far surpasses any of Acnollgias feats.

He was able to rewrite reality. Acnologia can't do shit.

From the character's reactions to the Spriggans.Some of them even mentioned they never faced someone with that level of M.P. before in the arc.

We already know Irene is a real Dragon.And August is compared with her.So naturally August too will have M.P. comparable to the Dragons on the level or close to the level of Irene.

 

[Kay3795]

From the character's reactions to the Spriggans.Some of them even mentioned they never faced someone with that level of M.P. before in the arc.

We already know Irene is a real Dragon.And August is compared with her.So naturally August too will have M.P. comparable to the Dragons on the level or close to the level of Irene.

Not necessarily so. Irene's Dragon form was never revealed to anybody except Zeref to my recollection, so the S12 wouldn't know of her true from, thus oblivious to how her full power feels like. There's a substantial difference between human Irene & Dragon Irene (likely because she intentionally supresses her power in human form), evident as she was able to easily cripple Erza with one simple hit. So the best August gets scaled to is human Irene.