Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Arjuna]

Not necessarily so. Irene's Dragon form was never revealed to anybody except Zeref to my recollection, so the S12 wouldn't know of her true from, thus oblivious to how her full power feels like. There's a substantial difference between human Irene & Dragon Irene (likely because she intentionally supresses her power in human form), evident as she was able to easily cripple Erza with one simple hit. So the best August gets scaled to is human Irene.

Hiro himself mentioned in one CR chapter cover that August is the strongest Spriggan.

Add to that Zeref made August the General of the Spriggans.

So even in the worst case scenario August=Irene in M.P.

 

[Woodenstool]

Hiro himself mentioned in one CR chapter cover that August is the strongest Spriggan.

Add to that Zeref made August the General of the Spriggans.

So even in the worst case scenario August=Irene in M.P.

No, August used hyperboles.

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What about flames of emotion vs half dragon Natsu

Flames of emotion put Zeref out of the battle for good where as dragon force obliterated his entire body but he rewrote reality.

You could say Hiro is lazy so he didn't want Zeref to come back.

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In terms just of how much MP they actually have available to them to use? Maybe so, but we never really get a quantifiable look into the mechanics of that. In terms of actual damage output, nowhere near... just in a completely different league... Serena, well we don't really have any point of reference, other than that he was stronger than the other GoI put together, but still a minnow to Acnologia - who Igneel was able to worry to a certain degree in his diminished end of Tartaros state... like I say, the power scaling post timeskip is just so severely broken, you could probably make a fact-based argument for a lot of stuff that would sound quite weird.

The powerscaling isn't broken, you just have to accept the one magic.

The Spriggans scale higher than any fairy tail Mage besides Gildarts. He was only Mage who capable of blitzing August casually

 

[Arjuna]

No, August used hyperboles.

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Flames of emotion put Zeref out of the battle for good where as dragon force obliterated his entire body but he rewrote reality.

You could say Hiro is lazy so he didn't want Zeref to come back.

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The powerscaling isn't broken, you just have to accept the one magic.

The Spriggans scale higher than any fairy tail Mage besides Gildarts. He was only Mage who capable of blitzing August casually

What hyperboles?

I am not talking about what the author said not August.Both Irene and August are top Tiers.Only Natsu ,Zeref and Acnologia is above them currently.

 

[Woodenstool]

What hyperboles?

I am not talking about what the author said not August.Both Irene and August are top Tiers.Only Natsu ,Zeref and Acnologia is above them currently.

Erza is clearly above Natsu when she was able to shatter a meteor with all of her bones broken and then slice through dragon skin. No dragon slayer in the story was able to replicate that feat.

 

[Spirit]

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Erza is clearly above Natsu when she was able to shatter a meteor with all of her bones broken and then slice through dragon skin. No dragon slayer in the story was able to replicate that feat.

Erza couldn't have defeated Acnologia in the conditions under which Natsu did though. And I don't know about you but The Demon Dragon of Magic is a more worthy opponent than a big rock.

 

[Woodenstool]

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Erza couldn't have defeated Acnologia in the conditions under which Natsu did though. And I don't know about you but The Demon Dragon of Magic is a more worthy opponent than a big rock.

Natsu didn't do it alone and Acnologia was weakened.

Big difference.

 

[Spirit]

Natsu didn't do it alone and Acnologia was weakened.

Big difference.

It's a rock.

Natsu had a bunch of Slayers who are reduced to fodder in that fight except Wendy who actually enchants people. I think it's not really that much of a difference.

 

[danny2018]

I like natsu more, but erza's feats are over his, she pushed back acnologia after fighting ajeel, neinhard, fodder, natsu and gray and her mom and he was in drago form, I mean come on natsus feats this are are great but I have to say Erza > Natsu.

 

[Woodenstool]

It's a rock.

Natsu had a bunch of Slayers who are reduced to fodder in that fight except Wendy who actually enchants people. I think it's not really that much of a difference.

A rock a completely different from a meator that traveled hypersonic speeds.

 

[Selene]

Ah don't make me remember that. The fights this arc are so short and bull that it is beyond help.
Honestly why didn't the 5 ds underwent dragonification for a fight with acno.

time constraint? maybe he had to ended with certain number of chapters? Still its no excuse to one shot your two main villains that you have been hyping for the most of the series.

 

[Spirit]

A rock a completely different from a meator that traveled hypersonic speeds.

Hypersonic speeds... Nobody would have even seen it if it had been travelling at that speed. Let alone destroy it...

 

[CaptainTorch]

Hypersonic speeds... Nobody would have even seen it if it had been travelling at that speed. Let alone destroy it...

It was traveling at massiverly hypersonic speeds though...

 

[Woodenstool]

Hypersonic speeds... Nobody would have even seen it if it had been travelling at that speed. Let alone destroy it...

Yeah the meator was totally moving under a thousands mile an hour. The author totally didn't want to create tension during that event.

It totally wasn't further away from the moon. The moon totally isn't 30 earths away or anything.

You're totally right here.

 

[Spirit]

Yeah the meator was totally moving under a thousands mile an hour. The author totally didn't want to create tension during that event.

It totally wasn't further away from the moon. The moon totally isn't 30 earths away or anything.

You're totally right here.

In miles, the distance from the Earth's surface to the Atmosphere is about 300 Miles. If that rock was travelling at Hypersonic (Mach 5+) speeds then it would have hit the ground before Erza could do anything about it. I also don't really appreciate your curt tone if you don't mind.

 

[Woodenstool]

Irene feats was already scaled to be in the 20,000s. The moon is 30 earths away from the earth and the meator was even further away from that.

Erza with all her bones broken but one, lifted herself off the ground and shattered it.

 

[Spirit]

The argument that you've trying to make is that Erza destroying such a large object moving with such force in her condition is a greater achievement than besting Acnologia correct? But in the scope of things, Natsu accomplished the more important task by far. So what if Erza was able to destroy it? That's not dissimilar to feats we've seen from both her and a plethora of other Fairy Tail cast.

 

[Seven777]

Deus Sema was slow enough for Erza to say her speech before it landed, which means its far below the speed of sound. In fact even nameless fodders were able to perceive it.
Simple explanation is that it slowed when it entered Earthland's atmosphere.
Besides, even if it is hypersonic or whatever, doesnt matter, cause that just means preskip weaklings are all hypersonic too, since Ikaruga(total fodder), Azuma(fodder) and Kyoka(weakling) were all able to hit Erza before she could react.

 

[Boomburst]

Deus Sema was slow enough for Erza to say her speech before it landed, which means its far below the speed of sound. In fact even nameless fodders were able to perceive it.
Simple explanation is that it slowed when it entered Earthland's atmosphere.

Character speech has never really operated under the rules of logic when it comes to manga/anime though. Just look at Natsu when he articulates the entire name of his secret art against the Twin Dragons and against Gildarts for example (there are probably better examples out there but I don't remember any off the top of my head)

 

[Seven777]

Character speech has never really operated under the rules of logic when it comes to manga/anime though. Just look at Natsu when he articulates the entire name of his secret art against the Twin Dragons and against Gildarts for example (there are probably better examples out there but I don't remember any off the top of my head)

And a spells appearance has never really operated under the rules of logic in manga/anime either, eg: is a lightning spell travelling at 1/3 light speed?
Yet here people are arguing that Deus Sema is going at hypersonic speeds just cause Mashima decided to show it coming from outa space this time, where did Jellal's come from? The clouds?
So yeah, if people are gonna argue with that kind of logic, im gonna be arguing with the speech=speed logic.

 

[Boomburst]

And a spells appearance has never really operated under the rules of logic in manga/anime either, eg: is a lightning spell travelling at 1/3 light speed?
Yet here people are arguing that Deus Sema is going at hypersonic speeds just cause Mashima decided to show it coming from outa space this time, where did Jellal's come from? The clouds?
So yeah, if people are gonna argue with that kind of logic, im gonna be arguing with the speech=speed logic.

Well in the context of this particular discussion I'd agree with you using that line of reasoning in response to theirs. Outside of this however I think my point still stands.