Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[WoWfan]

it proves that there were no dragon slayers present in the battle, we do not even know who the dragon slayers are at the time besides Irene and Acno, but it does not change anything, and they were taken down via spears. you like to wank dragons which seems to be a hobby.

 

[yutu]

it proves that there were no dragon slayers present in the battle, we do not even know who the dragon slayers are at the time besides Irene and Acno, but it does not change anything, and they were taken down via spears. you like to wank dragons which seems to be a hobby.

Not since the beginning of the manga, it is said that only DS magic works against dragons if the spears were enough to defeat a dragon his would have been said and erza wouldn't need an enchanted sword to pierce the scales of Eilen in dragon mode. At worst we can say that the spears containing DS magic were used against dragons.

 

[WoWfan]

Not since the beginning of the manga, it is said that only DS magic works against dragons if the spears were enough to defeat a dragon his would have been said and erza wouldn't need an enchanted sword to pierce the scales of Eilen in dragon mode. At worst we can say that the spears containing DS magic were used against dragons.

We can see spears stabbed into the dragons in various places, even the neck when they died, if said or not this is concrete what we see, Irene was simply stronger than other dragons, and their defenses are based on magic resistance hax, but again like you said, those Spears were not stated to have DS, Enchantments were intended to strength dragons.

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[Axiomus]

Irene flat out says that even though Erza can break the meteor, she still cannot penetrate dragon scales.

Spoiler

Either the soldiers 400 years ago were absolute beasts and far outclass Erza's meteor splitting slash in striking power. Or, and this is far more likely to be the case, they simply had weapons enchanted with dragon slaying magic. Either way, Jacob doesn't scale to that. Jacob's knives doesn't even penetrate Natsu's skin and his hand to hand attacks can't put down Lucy or Mirajane with no takeovers. He probably can't take down a dragon if we gave him a dragon slaying seal.

 

[WoWfan]

so that means regular soldiers are on the same level as Erza, in an era with weaker magics. Enchanting DS magic to weapons was only done by Wendy in the final fight with Irene, given her shock that it can be done.

Either way Jacob scales above regular dragons, they are not gods, they can be killed by conventional means,

 

[Ebony Maw]

If regular spears can harm/kill dragons, then so can Jacob, you seem to be wanking Dragons really hard.

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I'm sorry....

So you see Erza's fodder father taking a spear out with Irene standing right beside him and your thought isn't that Irene was the major factor... but that spears > Dragon scales?

they can be killed by conventional means,

Then why did Irene create Dragon Slaying Magic in the first place?

If warriors in their time were so OP that they could take Dragons down with pointy sticks, why did Irene have to create an entire new branch of Magic dedicated to killing Dragons?

 

[Axiomus]

so that means regular soldiers are on the same level as Erza, in an era with weaker magics. Enchanting DS magic to weapons was only done by Wendy in the final fight with Irene, given her shock that it can be done.

Either way Jacob scales above regular dragons, they are not gods, they can be killed by conventional means,

If they're stronger than Erza, then they are far stronger than Jacob anyways. Inb4Jacob's knives and hand to hand attacks can split Irene's meteor.

Irene being surprised that Wendy did that doesn't mean she thought it was impossible. This was the person that conceptualized dragon slaying magic, and could extract Fairy Heart from Mavis. She could have simply been surprised that Wendy was skilled enough to do so.

Look at the foot stomp from Motherglare. Look at the rock dragon just walking beside Lucy. The dragon is not even attack Lucy. He doesn't even know Lucy is there. He is just walking past Lucy. These are the type of physical forces that a dragon exert constantly. Each dragon would have the same benefits of dragon slaying magic when fighting each other. The fact that the dragons can fight each other with this level of power, and all of their attacks being as effective as slayer magic, pretty much dispells any chances of Jacob ever taking down a dragon. Jacob doesn't even sbeat a dragon if we gave him a dragon slaying seal. He does poor damage against who aren't immune to his attacks in the first place.

Spoiler: Motherglare's foot stomp

Spoiler: Rock Dragon walking past Lucy

 

[WoWfan]

Irene stated they have been through many battles together, Irene made DSM to make it all the more easy to do the job, I did not say it was easy, just they are not Gods and can be killed by conventional means.

If Erza goes down to or overwhelmed by a weaker Spriggan, then they are not stronger than Jacob. Well the fact that she was shocked before that Wendy is capable of High level enchantments should not make her surprised at all, especially when she was not a master enchanter 400 years ago. Acnologia was being tossed around by a freakin ship, don't give benefits to animals who are not even around anymore, they have hax that resists magic, not physical attacks

 

[Axiomus]

Are you implying that Jacob is stronger than Erza? Specifically that Jacob has better attack power than Erza? Specifically that Jacob's knives have better attack power than Erza's meteor splitting feat?

...Start of the day, and I'm already at my threshold.

 

[WoWfan]

Well considering that Ajeel is weaker than Jacob and he manhandled Erza without help, then Jacob can be as strong as Erza and what she did was indeed BS.

what do you think that means, do you even think what you said sounds correct?

 

[grey matter]

I'm sorry....

So you see Erza's fodder father taking a spear out with Irene standing right beside him and your thought isn't that Irene was the major factor... but that spears > Dragon scales?

Then why did Irene create Dragon Slaying Magic in the first place?

If warriors in their time were so OP that they could take Dragons down with pointy sticks, why did Irene have to create an entire new branch of Magic dedicated to killing Dragons?

I wouldn't be surprised if he actually was a badass tho, lol.
It seems Eileen actually respected the guy's powers in battlefield.

IMO, there were a lot of mages back in the days, on the level of current average Spriggans. Due to the rough times they've been living in, having to survive against Dragons etc.

But yea, they're still not doing jack to Dragons without DS magic. Without slayer advantage, there are no humans IMO who's on a Dragon's level

 

[Crimson Ice]

it proves that there were no dragon slayers present in the battle, we do not even know who the dragon slayers are at the time besides Irene and Acno, but it does not change anything, and they were taken down via spears. you like to wank dragons which seems to be a hobby.

What do you mean there are no other dragon slayers? Irene was showing off enchant magic to everyone plus she was present in the SCAN YOU POSTED. Like I said, post a scan of a non dragon-slaying human harming a dragon or don't reply.

 

[Ramen]

What do you mean there are no other dragon slayers? Irene was showing off enchant magic to everyone plus she was present in the SCAN YOU POSTED. Like I said, post a scan of a non dragon-slaying human harming a dragon or don't reply.

Woah woah bud, clearly spears killed them and Jacobs knives would bankai the shit out of the dragons.

Hehe

 

[WoWfan]

What do you mean there are no other dragon slayers? Irene was showing off enchant magic to everyone plus she was present in the SCAN YOU POSTED. Like I said, post a scan of a non dragon-slaying human harming a dragon or don't reply.

She was not otherwise she would be counted among the dead, she would do little to help against Acnologia. That does not prove Soldiers not killing dragons with regular spears.

 

[Axiomus]

Like I said, Irene said that it takes more to pierce a dragon's scales than to split her deus sema meteor. Even if it were the case that the soldiers were damaging a dragon through pure strength, they would have to be hitting harder than Erza did when she broke Irene's meteor. Jacob doesn't have this level of strength anyways. Jacob's knives doesn't even penetrate Natsu's bare skin, and his hand to hand attacks don't do enough damage to serious injure Lucy or an exhausted Mirajane without takeovers. I honestly don't think Jacob has the means of taking out Wendy with his strikes...let alone a dragon.

The GMG dragons were fighting the entire Fiore forces. Kagura and Erza had swords much better than a regular spear, and they couldn't scratch any of the dragons. When they were planning to fight Acnologia, Erza even shot down the idea that swords or physical objects would be effective.

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Well considering that Ajeel is weaker than Jacob and he manhandled Erza without help, then Jacob can be as strong as Erza and what she did was indeed BS.

what do you think that means, do you even think what you said sounds correct?

Ajeel isn't weaker than Jacob. He has the exact same hype as any of the other Spriggans, and better feats than Jacob when it comes to AOE and attack power. At least Ajeel can seriously injure Erza and Elfman. Attacks like Sands of Death are better than anything in Jacob's arsenal. Even that attack was countered by one of Laxus' casual lightning bolt, and Erza's at her strongest scales all the way up to red lightning. Also, Ajeel doesn't hit harder than Erza. Ajeel was beating Erza because he can create a city-sized sandstorm, and his sand was absorbing all the moisture in Erza's body (Jacob can't replicate any of this). In terms of his actual striking power, Ajeel has nothing even remotely close to Erza's meteor slashing strike.

It means I have limit for the amount of crazy claims I can take in a day. Hearing you say Jacob's hand to hand attacks and knives can do more damage than Erza's meteor splitting slash puts me at that limit pretty fast.

 

[WoWfan]

that is how the other Spriggans see Ajeel, Irene said more, not excluding anything. And Hiro stated that Spriggans are stronger still, so there is that. That doesn’t really make much difference since their resistance to magic is exclusive in certain fields, and has limits too.

If you have limits, then you should stop making those claims, plain and simple, even I can tell when you make jokes or exaggerations, you need to as well.

 

[Crimson Ice]

She was not otherwise she would be counted among the dead, she would do little to help against Acnologia. That does not prove Soldiers not killing dragons with regular spears.

The first part of your post makes no sense. Why would she be among the dead? Just because she was fighting doesn't mean she'd face Acnologia. It does as you have made the claim, yet you have yet to prove anything. The burden of proof is on you, the manga has supported what I have said.

 

[WoWfan]

Because you claim that she was on the same battlefield as Acnologia, which she would be dead. I have, you can see those spears piercing those dragons bodies, there is nothing more to It. I have given you the proof, you are just in denial, it has supported what I said

 

[Vis]

So Jacob > Irene now? Would make sense considering swords > Irene already, and Jacob is inferior to those swords.

Alegria (no one around, true mighty power) >> BSS MIrajane (without anyone around) > BSS Mirajane (when people are around) > Juliet/Hynhe > Jacob > Irene > Erza = human Mirajane = a single fodder enchanted Alvarez soldier > END/Gray > Base Natsu > an enchanted Spriggan Neinhart > Brandish > Dragon Eaters >>>>>> Parent Dragons.

Perfection. I highly doubt anyone really thinks the whole Jacob > Irene thing, he's plainly trolling now. Or she, not sexist, females can be trolls too.

 

[WoWfan]

So Jacob > Irene now? Would make sense considering swords > Irene already, and Jacob is inferior to those swords.

Alegria (no one around, true mighty power) >> BSS MIrajane (without anyone around) > BSS Mirajane (when people are around) > Juliet/Hynhe > Jacob > Irene > Erza = human Mirajane = a single fodder enchanted Alvarez soldier > END/Gray > Base Natsu > an enchanted Spriggan Neinhart > Brandish > Dragon Eaters >>>>>> Parent Dragons.

Perfection. I highly doubt anyone really thinks the whole Jacob > Irene thing, he's plainly trolling now. Or she, not sexist, females can be trolls too.

i will have you know I take offense to that! Axiomus is not a troll, he is just exaggerating