Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[One4All]

Well dragons have been shown to be killed by spears, Jacob would have no problem, dragons can be affected by other Magic too besides DS, weak humans can tag dragons while flying. 5DG are above Spriggan level as they scale to Acnologia.

I meant the 5 Dragon Eaters introduced.

 

[WoWfan]

Oh, well they are under Spriggan level still

 

[sharkai]

It’s exactly like that lol. She got a new power up an used it to get a DS and DeS mode.

She was quite clear about being worried that she left and took a chunk of the guilds forces with her. An that Laxus can close that gap on his own. Remember she’s the most reliable source of statements we have.

Both those statements are tied to actions. An I’m not sure what either has to do with our current topic. What Erza hype has been undone or ignored?
Your right to an extent. I do believe August, and I believe Laxus as well. Not to the point I think he really couldn’t have won as a DS, but I think him acknowledging that Erza is too strong to play with is both the right move and a beautiful growth moment. It makes a point of how far he’s come since the original Fighting Festival. It’s also simply smart. He did just fight Kiria. An Erza isnt a great opponent to play with, especially not debuting new skills. I’m not bothered by him acknowledging that.

yeah

she can only judge herself. laxus cant knock erza out. how with this can erza judge that laxus can replace her + natsu + gray. what she sees laxus can replace her only, that is it.

non of those are tied to action. laxus cant casusally one shot kill any springgan. gmg jura beating gmg erza would be shocking by itself.
What Erza hype has been undone or ignored?
all of um

see hype for laxus, accepted. no further addition required.
but laxus statement that he needs red lightening to put down erza (featwise we already know even this is not enough), you think maybe ds laxus could be enough.
he acknowledged her because he knew how strong erza is. unlike laxus fans opnion, in fairy tail world laxus has never been above erza.

 

[Axiomus]

As if we need more proof that Jacob's attack power is trash, Gray did in 3 chapters what Jacob cannot in 15.

i will have you know I take offense to that! Axiomus is not a troll, he is just exaggerating

#Whoosh.

 

[MangerDan]

As if we need more proof that Jacob's attack power is trash, Gray did in 3 chapters what Jacob cannot in 15.



#Whoosh.

It took 15 Chapters?

 

[Seven777]

I don't know where the spear thing came from, but humans didn't even enter the war until after DS magic was created, so says Zirconis, so says Belsersion. I'm not even a believer in Dragons being outright immune to magic or impossible to be beat by non-DS, but saying they got speared to death by human fodders is ridiculous.

Oh and Eileen can literally enchant a million soldiers from fodder to decent fighters. If there are any spears on a battlefield with Eileen present, then they have been enchanted with DS magic by her, not doing so would be nothing short of retarded.

 

[MangerDan]

A few more chapters and we’ll finally know where the white witch ranks for sure. Unless Mashima trolls us once again.

 

[Karna]

Gray>Mira

 

[WoWfan]

That doesn’t mean they can’t defend themselves from the dragon’s assault she was not even a master enchanter at the time, there was no information that she could enchant DS magic to weapons, there were spears on the battlefield, and Irene was not present on the battlefield Anyway. You are correct that Dragons are not immune to all magic as they were affected by magic before.

I don't know where the spear thing came from, but humans didn't even enter the war until after DS magic was created, so says Zirconis, so says Belsersion. I'm not even a believer in Dragons being outright immune to magic or impossible to be beat by non-DS, but saying they got speared to death by human fodders is ridiculous.

Oh and Eileen can literally enchant a million soldiers from fodder to decent fighters. If there are any spears on a battlefield with Eileen present, then they have been enchanted with DS magic by her, not doing so would be nothing short of retarded.

 

[Seven777]

That doesn’t mean they can’t defend themselves from the dragon’s assault she was not even a master enchanter at the time, there was no information that she could enchant DS magic to weapons, there were spears on the battlefield, and Irene was not present on the battlefield Anyway. You are correct that Dragons are not immune to all magic as they were affected by magic before.

Defending yourself is different from going around spearing dragons.
So? Enchanting swords and soldiers is High Enchant, not Master Enchant.
Eileen literally created the technique of enchanting things with DS magic, she also created the technique of enchanting weapons. It's her thing. As for info on the spears and battlefied, I don't really care, I don't need to use the battlefield as evidence, you do. If you want that evidence to be credible then show that the battlefield was just fodder soldiers with fodder spears killing dragons.

As I recall you were arguing real hard against me that they were completely and utterly immune to magic. So hard that you compared a dragon changing into a human to a T-shirt shrinking in the wash lol. How the times have changed.

 

[WoWfan]

There is no evidences she is capable of doing that as well, she could not even enchant magics to anything else, all she could do was be enchanted by a dragon to gain their power to create DS, that is it. That was only done for humans, not weapons, which she only shown to demonstrate once to only make weapons harder, it is meant to strengthen dragons, nothing else. And I did, I showed the image of such a thing where dragons have spears all over their bodies, I am arguing that they are not gods and just animals with magic power. That right there is a natural contradiction to your point, they are still affected by magic.

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[kian]

Gray>Mira

Mira>Gray is more accurate

 

[Ramen]

Mira>Gray is more accurate

Gajeel>Mira

 

[Demon Hunter]

Gajeel>Mira

Cana, Lucy > Gajeel

 

[Ramen]

Cana, Lucy > Gajeel

Juvia>>Gray

 

[aaannnnannan]

personal opinion
1 Acnologia
2 Natsu (flames of emotion)
3 Zeref
4 August
5 Irene
6 Gildarts
7 God Serena
8 Larcade
9 Jellal on pair with Laxus
11 Gray
12 Erza
13 Gajeel ( could be higher if he was able to use dragon force at will)
14 Invel ( really underrated , if it wasn't for Juvia death he would have win against Gray)
15 Dimaria


I am gonna explain my choices :
On Acnologia absolutely no doubts ,he is clearly the strongest in FT.
I put Natsu second just because of the flames of emotions that he gets in the feat against Zeref where he actually defeats him. I didn't put the 7 flames of dragon slayers just because it is shared power , so i wouldn't count it as a Natsu ability .
Well Zeref in third isn't something to be explained , he is said to be the strongest mage ever.
August is the strongest of the spriggan 12 , defeats alone Crime Sorciere and could've destroyed Magnolia if it wasn't for Mavis.
Irene is definitely the 2nd strongest in the spriggan 12 , could've killed both Erza and Wendy , she is able to pick up a fight with Acnologia even if for a short time , she is praised even by Zeref.
I put Gildarts 6th because of his really good feats , he picks up a really good fight with August , completely destroys a weaker God Serena and he is considered as the strongest in the fairy tail guild for the most of the show.
God Serena is here because of 3 main reasons : he destroys the four of Ishgar alone , he is considered the strongest mage in Ishgar and he is cool.
Larcade could be higher because he is basically no match for everyone who had sex , he destroys Kagura but loses to Sting with Rogue powers.Still he is able to get up and could've killed Natsu if it wasn't for Zeref.
Well now it stars the difficult part :
In my very personal opinion Jellal is stronger than Laxus , but it's because i am a jellal fan . Well talking about their feats Laxus kills Wahl even if he was under ethernano poisonament , he has incredible body strength and stamina and gets a new form like Red Lightning Mode. For Jellal he one-shots Neinhart , gets destroyed by August , picks up a decent fight with Acnologia.He is also able to use like 10/11 types of magic and can outspedd basically everyone with Meteor.At last he never gets an upgrade form like the others ( I am kind of angry for this ).
Gray is really strong right now because of the DMS mode , that makes demons basically no match for him and makes his ice magic stronger: He defeats invel , but only to Juvia death , picks up a good fight with Natsu , but only because he is in END mode and he posses Iced shell , still if he isn't fighting a demon he can have serious problems.
Now i am kinda tired of writing , if u want me to explain the others 4 just ask

 

[Axiomus]

There is no evidences she is capable of doing that as well, she could not even enchant magics to anything else, all she could do was be enchanted by a dragon to gain their power to create DS, that is it. That was only done for humans, not weapons, which she only shown to demonstrate once to only make weapons harder, it is meant to strengthen dragons, nothing else. And I did, I showed the image of such a thing where dragons have spears all over their bodies, I am arguing that they are not gods and just animals with magic power. That right there is a natural contradiction to your point, they are still affected by magic.

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I just realize that the battlefield was Acnologia's, and he probably killed everyone. So yeah, maybe Acnologia can thrust a spear through dragon scales with physical strength. Acnologia's level of physical strength is way above Jacob's. In any case, to put to rest this once and for all. Kagura was among one of the people during the GMG. Kagura flat out says that the dragon's scales are too hard.

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If Kagura cannot cut a dragon's scale with her sword that can do this (below), there's simply no way an average fodder holding a non-magical spear is going to do it.

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In any case, even we enchanted Jacob's weapons with dragon slaying magic or gave him a dragon slaying seal, so that Jacob's attacks are effective against dragons, he's still not beating a dragon. If for nothing else than for the fact that even an average dragon like Animus (who hasn't even recovered his full power until he ate dragon cry) has better feats than Jacob. Animus skewered Natsu. He pretty much would have killed Natsu if not for the fact that Lucy's tears had some unexplained uber-healing properties. This is miles upon miles ahead of what Jacob can achieve with his dagger.

 

[WoWfan]

Well, I would not think he would use weapons since we never seen him use any, but to put this to rest, Spriggans are stated to be stronger than any enemies before and that includes the dragons that have appeared in GMG. So Animus is wall level? okay, that makes Dragons wall level then, besides Animus only got that strength from the Dragon Cry which has the strength of dozens of Etherions. Well Natsu just has ridiculous stamina. and even Animus was still affected by magic

 

[Axiomus]

Well, I would not think he would use weapons since we never seen him use any, but to put this to rest, Spriggans are stated to be stronger than any enemies before and that includes the dragons that have appeared in GMG. So Animus is wall level? okay, that makes Dragons wall level then, besides Animus only got that strength from the Dragon Cry which has the strength of dozens of Etherions. Well Natsu just has ridiculous stamina. and even Animus was still affected by magic

We know the statement that the Spriggans were stronger than any characters in the series history is an exaggeration, even if we limited it to enemies, because they are not stronger than Zeref or Acnologia.

Animus is stronger than Wall. Unless you're talking about literal walls. If you think dragons can only break down walls, then I truly don't know what to say. Dragons have mountain level feats. I showed you panels of Motherglare's footstomp breaking an entire city-block. Animus stabbed Natsu before even touching dragon cry. He then ate dragon cry, which recovered his full power. It was only after Natsu started dragonizing that he used dragon cry to power himself up even more.

Natsu didn't have ridiculous stamina. He was stabbed in the same way FH Zeref stabbed him. Lucy's tears triggered some unexplained POF which actually healed those wounds. Either way, Jacob's knives can't even break Natsu's skin.

 

[grey matter]

In any case, even we enchanted Jacob's weapons with dragon slaying magic or gave him a dragon slaying seal, so that Jacob's attacks are effective against dragons, he's still not beating a dragon. If for nothing else than for the fact that even an average dragon like Animus (who hasn't even recovered his full power until he ate dragon cry) has better feats than Jacob. Animus skewered Natsu. He pretty much would have killed Natsu if not for the fact that Lucy's tears had some unexplained uber-healing properties. This is miles upon miles ahead of what Jacob can achieve with his dagger.

Well, that explains that Zircnois level dragons are strong enough to kill even Alverez Natsu, right? That's an up for Dragons, as far as I'm concerned.

I haven't watch the movie yet, but have watched the final battle. Was Animus at his full power when he faced Natsu?