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Where does it say that? Give me the quote. The Dragon Slayers were getting strength from hearing the voices of their loved ones while they were inside the rift of time. That's why they were able to break free of their crystals. Natsu started hearing Lucy's voice right before his final clash with Acnologia. Lucy was literally trying to connect to Natsu and send over all her emotion to him, and Natsu got it. The chapter is called "Hearts Connected" for this very reason. I mean, this is not an insignificant power-up. Erza herself actually used this exact same thing when she fought Azuma. She heard Jellal's voice, and that gave her to strength to stand again.The series literally says that fusion magic produces an attack greater in power than if the attacks were just fired simultaneously. Laxus' power alone wasn't anywhere near what was displayed with LFD. And you can't prove that 7DS mode was below acno as the only attack that natsu hit him with was the attack that defeated him. If you wanna claim POF won the fight you need to show that without it the power wasn't enough which you can't
No a group of fatigued soldiers doesn't equal a fully fresh one. Because they weren't combining their power and just attacked him sequentially, if one of them didn't have enough power to hurt hades, 5 of them doesn't change that. Literally the only attack they did in that whole exchange that had any effect was the unison raid of natsu wendy and lucy, further showing that fusion magic is much stronger than their magic individually.
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Well that's your opinion though I personally believe anyone who can low-mid diff Gray at full power can heavily injure Erza in her weaker armors. Her wind sword may be a good counter due to the type match up eg) Wendy's power working better on Skullion than Natsu's.Every character at their best relies on POF, including Gray. If you want to exclude POF feats for Erza, then you also have to exclude POF feats for Gray. If we're being fair to both characters, Erza simply has much better feats than Gray. Her non-POF feats are Laxus tier, and her POF feats are honestly insane.
Armours don't really matter when it comes to Erza's durability because she tanks almost everything with her cherry blossom robes anyways, and those robes offer no defensive properties. Erza is just too much of a tank. I honestly believe Erza can be naked and still tank everything Skullion can throw at her. I don't buy that Skullion's attacks are injuring Erza more than this.
Erza was just getting serious after taking this attack. This attack is several times stronger than what Laxus used to beat Kyria, and Skullion ran away because he sensed that Kyria (and Wraith) was defeated. All of this is assuming Skullion can even hit Erza, because Wendy hard countered Skullion's ash. Erza has her wind god sword, which was able to do the same to Ajeel. She also reacts to Laxus' lightning body.![]()
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By weaker armours are we talking about her regular elemental ones? If that's the case yea I'd agree that Skullion could give a proper fight but would eventually lose due to being countered.Well that's your opinion though I personally believe anyone who can low-mid diff Gray at full power can heavily injure Erza in her weaker armors. Her wind sword may be a good counter due to the type match up eg) Wendy's power working better on Skullion than Natsu's.
There's nothing to suggest Skullion can heavily injure Erza to the point she can't beat Gray even if she's naked.Well that's your opinion though I personally believe anyone who can low-mid diff Gray at full power can heavily injure Erza in her weaker armors. Her wind sword may be a good counter due to the type match up eg) Wendy's power working better on Skullion than Natsu's.
Yes her regular ones outside of her Wind God Armor which would have an elemental advantage over Skullion. As far as we know her strongest armors are Amradura, Nakagami and her Clear Heart Clothing (with her benizakura blade and source of her asspulls).By weaker armours are we talking about her regular elemental ones? If that's the case yea I'd agree that Skullion could give a proper fight but would eventually lose due to being countered.
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There's nothing suggesting that Erza can fight Skullion in her weakest forms, get heavily injured and then take on a full powered Gray and win without POF at play. The gap between Gray and Erza isn't that wide and Skullion is stronger than Gray, Kyria and on par with BSS Mirajane so he would logically give her problems.There's nothing to suggest Skullion can heavily injure Erza to the point she can't beat Gray even if she's naked.
Her robes are nothing but cloth, with no MP. Provides zero defensive bonuses.There's nothing suggesting that Erza can fight Skullion in her weakest forms, get heavily injured and then take on a full powered Gray and win without POF at play. The gap between Gray and Erza isn't that wide and Skullion is stronger than Gray, Kyria and on par with BSS Mirajane so he would logically give her problems.
The Wind God armor would lead to a type advantage which Gray and possibly Mirajane would not have so if for some reason Wind God Armor does better than BSS vs Skullion that fails to prove that a heavily injured Erza would beat Gray at full power or that Skullion isn't strong enough to stalemate her weakest forms like he did BSS. In terms of power levels. Mirajane is clearly above Gray and Gajeel and Erza is below Laxus so it isn't out of the question to surmise that Erza and Mirajane are still on the same level as was indicated back in Tenrou and Tartaros when they performed similarly vs Azuma and were called the most reliable members after Laxus was take out and Gildarts was away.Her robes are nothing but cloth, with no MP. Provides zero defensive bonuses.
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Erza can tank a blow that shattered her lightning empress armour. And then tank a blow from red lightning that is much stronger. How does Skullion even get past her Wind God armour? Look at Erza's fight with Laxus. At what point could Gray have jumped in and replaced Laxus, and beaten Erza?
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Erza and Mirajane had comparable feats in Tartaros and Tenrou when BSS was fighting Azuma equally and she only lost because she had to save her sister while Erza only won because everyone's magic chose her instead of Azuma. Even now after all of her magical asspull Erza couldn't beat Laxus even with help clearly showing that POF is switched on and off and power levels aren't always the same. Mirajane didn't have any POF vs Skullion as she knew he was fake and got angry but it wasn't to the extent that others have it. If it was POF as is discussed here we would have seen her rage and do ridiculous things like Erza, Gray, Natsu and she wouldn't have been calm and let Madmole and Skullion go.After doing all this before receiving several more powerups in 100 Year Quest, I don't see why she won't be able to do all this. Scaling her off Mirajane has never really gone well given the obvious disparity between their performances in each arc.
- Mirajane had POF fighting Skullion, just putting it out there. She was attacking them at the beginning with the mindset that they had just killed Lisanna. Usage of POF is not a case you can use against Erza in this matter.
- Erza has also always been massively ahead of Gray. The gap has never been close. Closest it has been was Tartaros which was undone a timeskip later.
- At the beginning of the series, Erza blocked Jupiter, fought off Aria, then still had enough energy to face Jose. Gray struggled with Juvia. Erza also destroyed 200 of Laxus' lacrima with the Thunder Palace and Gray only took out 4.
- x791, she fought Kagura and Minerva back to back (she wasn't even using Second Origin for most of this fight), then you have Gray who struggled with Rufus, then needed Unison Raid with Juvia to beat Lyon and Chelia.
- x792, Erza intercepted an attack from Natsu and Gray without any defensive armors in Alvarez, with her bare fists, then fought off Irene. Gray, at his absolute strongest, beat Invel.
- x793, Erza fought Laxus to a standstill, Gray beat his underlings. Then almost lost to Mirajane. Though granted, I don't think he went as serious against her as he does against usual foes.
- Beating Skullion then beating Gray is not out of Erza's depth. She's done worse.
- Erza stopped an onslaught from END and Gray while bloodlusted.
She followed that up by contending with Irene in which she got beat up.- Followed up by Wendy Belserion shortly.
- Got her bones broken by a dragon.
- Pushed herself off the ground which launched her fast enough to intercept and destroy a falling meteor from space.
- Knocked Irene out of her dragon form.
- Headbutted her, actually did significant damage.
- A couple of moments later, she was all good and well, fending off Acnologia.
Tartaros, Erza pierced Kyouka through the cube, then fought her for awhile before Neo-Minerva stepped in, who she then beat with her bare fists. She then went ahead and fought Kyouka in her etherious form and was stripped of all her senes, then still won, possibly tied it if you wanna go that route.Erza and Mirajane had comparable feats in Tartaros and Tenrou when BSS was fighting Azuma equally and she only lost because she had to save her sister while Erza only won because everyone's magic chose her instead of Azuma.
Erza couldn't beat Laxus because he's just superior, though the gap is obviously marginal at this point. I don't know why you're bringing this up; do you think Mirajane can beat Laxus? Because otherwise, this is an irrelevant point.Even now after all of her magical asspull Erza couldn't beat Laxus even with help clearly showing that POF is switched on and off and power levels aren't always the same.
She did, it was literally put into writing on both the last page of chapter 35, and the beginning of chapter 36. She's just dumb when it comes to her siblings; even Wahl's robots sensed it.Mirajane didn't have any POF vs Skullion as she knew he was fake and got angry but it wasn't to the extent that others have it.
That's the thing, she doesn't because she can't.If it was POF as is discussed here we would have seen her rage and do ridiculous things like Erza, Gray, Natsu and she wouldn't have been calm and let Madmole and Skullion go.
Someway somehow I knew this would lead to a Mira wank when The hypothetical Gray vs. Erza was brought up. I just can’t.Erza and Mirajane had comparable feats in Tartaros and Tenrou when BSS was fighting Azuma equally and she only lost because she had to save her sister
Wind god armour isn't even one of Erza's better armours. She has better feats with her katanas, even without the dragon slaying seals.The Wind God armor would lead to a type advantage which Gray and possibly Mirajane would not have so if for some reason Wind God Armor does better than BSS vs Skullion that fails to prove that a heavily injured Erza would beat Gray at full power or that Skullion isn't strong enough to stalemate her weakest forms like he did BSS. In terms of power levels. Mirajane is clearly above Gray and Gajeel and Erza is below Laxus so it isn't out of the question to surmise that Erza and Mirajane are still on the same level as was indicated back in Tenrou and Tartaros when they performed similarly vs Azuma and were called the most reliable members after Laxus was take out and Gildarts was away.
Gray at full power can replace Laxus in his fight against Erza if it's at a moment where Erza is nearly done. This is because Erza and Laxus both got more and more injured and lost more and more power as the fight progressed so weaker characters like Gray could have stepped in at a late point and beat a heavily injured and weaker Erza. BSS Mirajane tied with someone who is beyond Madmole, Gray, Kyria and Gajeel. I'd say that solidifies her S class rank.
IMO it makes more sense for Mirajane and Erza to be on the same level under Laxus (as they are former rivals) and above Gray/Gajeel rather than there being some special tier in between Erza and Gray where Mirajane resides.
Technically Gajeel is an s-class wizard. So boom there you have it, he should be on the same tier as Erza, Laxus, and Gildarts since the Mira club say the same for Mira.It's one thing to say Mira>Gray but Gajeel and Mira are equal 100%. Her having s class doesn't matter anymore since a lot of people are s class at this point.